buying a pro2 and seeking advice - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

thanks for reading my post
i am now an owner of the diamond2 and i am about to replace it for pro 2 because of two reasons
1- the stand-by of death attacked my device i am now getting it about twice a day, and nothing is working to fix it, from changing my rom to changing my radio rom, nothing does the trick
2-i feel like the pro2's bigger screen is going to be better
my question is , does the pro2 get this sod problem like diamond2
and also what's the average battery life for pro2
thanks

sabbourh said:
thanks for reading my post
i am now an owner of the diamond2 and i am about to replace it for pro 2 because of two reasons
1- the stand-by of death attacked my device i am now getting it about twice a day, and nothing is working to fix it, from changing my rom to changing my radio rom, nothing does the trick
2-i feel like the pro2's bigger screen is going to be better
my question is , does the pro2 get this sod problem like diamond2
and also what's the average battery life for pro2
thanks
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i've seen a couple posts about the SoD. From personal experience it seems to be heat that heightens its occurrence. I would say with moderate usage you can get a healthy 34 hours. If i'm playing with my phone installing and testing new apps I would say after a 24 hour period my phone will be at ~20%

thanks
thanks for your kind reply
so if i buy a pro2 , am i supposed to take that sod problem as a normal one , like in my dimaond2?

I've only had it happen to me once since getting my phone in September. Take care of your phone and there should be no problems.

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belive me i take care of my phone like it's my baby
in my dimaond2 i only had the official wm 6.5 plus only three programs, s-k tools, gps gate and real player and i got that sod problem
it's a shame that htc does nothing about such an obvious problem in diamond2
anyways thanks so much for your help
thanks a lot

Flashed 40+ ROMS and used stock ROM. Never any SOD, knock wood.
Battery life gets me through the day. It is really hard to compare this since we all do different things with the phone. Best bet is to compare manufacturers specs for both phones related to battery.

i've only had SoD one or two times and both were related to an app in the background hogging all the memory. Never experienced it on a fresh flash of a rom.
Also battery life varies on different roms. right now running NRG's 10.Feb.2010 21891 rom which has pretty good battery life.
Also the radio you have installed effects the battery life.
As for switching from a diamond, i had the at&t fuze before this and the keyboard on the tilt 2 (tp2) is far superior and the bigger screen is a super +
i'd say go for it.

I also say get the TP2. I am not sure about your SoD problem (in fact, never even heard of it) but your second point is a good one. The bigger screen is nice, trust me I used to own a TP1.
And the hard keyboard is the best on any phone out there, period.

Go for Rhodium!
So far the best hardware keyboard device to this date

thank you all
thank you all for your replies and help
i got my pro2 today and i've got to say that i am happy that i made this upgrade from diamond2
the screen size is a lot better though the difference seem a little from 3.2 to 3.6 but in real life it's a big difference, sound quality is great but the location of the 2 speakers at the bottom instead of the side made me lose a lot of calls to be honest.
but the key bored will make you forget any bad things you can imagine as a bad thing in a pro2
it's great in size and beautiful to use even for a guy like me with thick big fingers, i've got to admit it i loved it from first sight.
just wanted to share you with my ideas about the pro2 and thank you all for your great help.

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Fuze:Android vs WinMo 6.5

WinMo 6.1 was almost unusable. I switched to a Tael ROM to run 6.5, which was immensely better, especially using Spb Shell 3.5.
How does Android 2.1 compare? I know its a work in progress. I know its better than WinMo 6.1.. but how does it compare to WinMo 6.5 on the Fuze?
Also, I see mostly Android CDMA work being done for Raphael--anyone actively working on the Fuze (GSM) version?
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RickH
Actually, most of the work is being done by devs with GSM devices. You probably see more CDMA posts because we have more issues Or we're just special ed, either way.
I love Android, but currently it's not a replacement for WinMo - for me. The main reason being the battery life. While the devs have done great work, the battery is just not up to par - I need to run a full day on idle at least before I can switch over to it.
Is there any reason you haven't given it a shot yourself? You don't flash it to NAND, the entire OS just sits on your SD card - literally nil chance of breaking something hardware-wise with the device!
guess it's worth trying
I just need to find the steps and the latest usable build..
Battery life is that great on WinMo 6.5 either.
Often I find apps that I thought I closed are still active. Now I always check whats running before I put it on standby.(hmm wonder if there is an app to autoclose everything and standby the phone..)
BTW, I found when using the GPS in remote areas putting the phone in Flight Mode works wonders for battery life. GPS stays on, but Bluetooth, phone service, WiFi, are all off.
If you're in an area with poor or no service, turning off the radio will certainly increase performance - one of the main killers of the battery is the phone's radio. If it's constantly searching for a signal or using a lot of power to keep one... you get the point.
Battery life in Android is not on-par with WinMo. At least not for CDMA devices, some on GSM report 10-12hrs of battery life.
Were you having an issue finding builds? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751 - that thread, first three posts or so have all the stuff you'll need.
Ive found that on my fuze, winmo 6.5 is horrid, but its got the only reliable battery life i need. I text like 24/7, so on android my battery is gone in an hour or two, while on winmo itll last atleast 8 hours, as long as i got my wifi off and got my screen's brightness turned down.
From one fuze owner to another. I have been running android 100% since GPS was enabled and don't plan on going back!
AkumaMax said:
From one fuze owner to another. I have been running android 100% since GPS was enabled and don't plan on going back!
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100%, seriously? how can you keep the battery life all day long? do you have 2 or more batteries as subs?
I have made it on my touch pro at&t!
i got about 3 hours on android, 20 txt messages, about 5minutes on the internet via 3g wifi and gps off, back to the blackberry for now
I like the stability of Windows Mobile, however, I hate not having ANY applications worth downloading.
I have been running Android on my Fuze for the past few days and am EXTREMELY surprised at how well it operates. It is honestly faster than my G1 and more responsive too.
The biggest downfalls I would say, are the lack of camera, poor battery life, and it gets pretty hot.
I honestly wasn't expecting for it to run smooth at all, but was delightfully proved wrong.
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I like the stability of Windows Mobile, however, I hate not having ANY applications worth downloading.
I have been running Android on my Fuze for the past few days and am EXTREMELY surprised at how well it operates. It is honestly faster than my G1 and more responsive too.
The biggest downfalls I would say, are the lack of camera, poor battery life, and it gets pretty hot.
I honestly wasn't expecting for it to run smooth at all, but was delightfully proved wrong.
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Yea, the developers really have done an amazing job on this project... Donate to them if you can, they deserve it!
Ryanze said:
100%, seriously? how can you keep the battery life all day long? do you have 2 or more batteries as subs?
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sorry about getting back so late on the reply but I just keep my phone charged as much as possible. Unfortunatly with the new stuff(6/21) the battery is a mega killer so back to winmo untill a more battery friendly build comes out. Allthough I did catch a glimps of a new HTC android phone on AT&T shelves yesterday. Tempted to get it for the low low price of $129.99

Battery Life Vs Iphone 4

Ok hold on before you fly off the handle - I'm trying to ask a very specific question, to probably a fairly small sub group of people.
I own an iPhone 4 and a Desire. I , for the most part got the iPhone 4 because of the fairly bad battery life on the Desire - not to mention that I had just come out of contract with my ATT account so I could get a discounted iPhone toy.
Are there any others out there that have had experience with both of these devices and if so have you been even close to being sucessful at obtaining similar battery life? Which ROM and / or what SetCPU settings (I'm not entirely convinced how much difference that makes for me)??
It is now 5:27 pm and I have tried my best to have both devices used for the same things. I alternaated phone calls. I pushed emails to both devices nd I even tried to duplicate SMS's as much as psossible with help of a third person.
The iPhone has 80% left and the Desire has 60%. If anything though I used the iPhone more because it has my primary SIM card in it.
Thanks
JC
Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
maybe it's your battery stats.....wipe the nattery info and recalibrate your desire....you might have a fix then
stanleywinston said:
Not really sure this is a development thing but for me cyanogen 6 latest nightly has nearly double the battery life of the stock t mobile 2.1 rom that I had before.
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Thanks - I haven't tried Cyanogen but i've tried enough of the others over some months that I knew that answer had to be a particular ROM OR the possibilty that it just wasn't going to happen.
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i use pays 1.9 rom and the battery is holding the charge much longer, i didn't charge the phone for 3 days and today it had 50 % before i started to play need for speed shift . and the iphone doesn't use as much charge as the desire because it has a crapy old lcd display and no REAL multitasing....
I got roufianos v6 and i get a day of heavy duty work on desire, day and a half with low medium usage and im happy with the battery. (wifi on all the time, auto sinc on an hour of fb, weather, xda rss news, nimbuzz chat, gtalk chat, couple of calls and sms, homerun battle 3d, internet checking fb and other forums, xda app couple times a day and thats pretty much most of the duty) i couldnt last 2 days with nokia x6 with 1/10th of that usage.
Besides, iphone doesnt have this insanely beautiful amoled bright colors do its normal its battery lasts longer. Its also got a diferent system and diferent multitasking codes. Desire runs some proceses in the background for certain period of time so it loads diferent apps u just used faster.
Besides, charge the phone over night and use it over day and u wont notice the battery life is bad at all. U cant enjoy iphone as much as u can enjoy desire if u know what each individual device is capable of.
If u ask me, u can give me an ever lasting iphone or a day lasting batteri on desire and id pick desire. As a matter of fact id pick desire over any combination about phones u make
Sent from my HTC Desire
OH oh - Sorry I didn't mean to get the iPhone war going. I have jsut noticed that the battery life has somehow greatly improved with the iphone 4 vs the 3 and I had previously not been making it even through the day with my Desire.
Probably wouldn't have even been looking at the Iphone if it hadn't been for the battery issue with the Desire.
Again I was just hoping some others had been able to personally experience the battery thing so I could get a better idea of whether to go back to the drawing (ROM) board or to give up.
Thanks all
I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I have had both phones & iPhone has hands down better screen (& you can see it in direct sunlight).
Battery life was a lot longer on iPhone, but I think that's just because I played with it less, got rid of it & kept my Desire in the end.
Currently using modaco's r8 with A2SD+, seems to make a big difference to battery life by having dalvik-cache & apps on the SD card. My battery is now a horizontal line in standby with constant sync etc (something I could never get before).
Can anyone else confirm better battery with A2SD+ or is it just me?
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I will be also interrested to know if A2SD+ improves battery...

Now weve had a play

Ok so now weve all had a decent play with our OX whats everyones thoughts?
Mod or Die
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
Are you considering a switch i lv put the ox back in the box an using my gs2 in hope a fix comes via OTA for all the little bugs
Mod or Die
Arthur Hucksake said:
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.
no problems here in anyway battery life is fine handset running smooth and fastttttt....................superb device love mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After I found a way to move my Angry bird space progress without Titanium backup, I'm content using un-rooted one x for now.
I'd like to use Adblock for web browsing and Autostarts to stop some apps from running, but ICS RAM management seems to be working fine.
Battery life seems OK, got 3 hrs 40 mins with full screen brightness and 3G on 2nd full charge.
Arthur Hucksake said:
Not much playing to be had here, battery life is just way too poor.
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I get fantastic battery life!
DaveDesire said:
Arthur. You're boring.
If your device is that bad then send it back as it's clear you're having a lot more problems than everyone else.
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I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
Battery isn't great but its nothing different than other android phones.
ok so having had it since 7am this morning i must say its amazing, its buttery smooth, not had 1 bit of lag or stutter,
as it stands atm its currently on 9 hours 17 mins and the use i have been doing is
downloaded 7 apps,
installed gta3 from tegra zone which the download to play is 492mb over wifi,
took about 30 odd pics 2 videos 35 secs each
phone calls for about 45 mins total
set up dropbox,browsed ebay for 7 mins and brought 2 items,
ran 4x benchmarks
browesed market place for about 10 mins
sent and recieved around 40 texts,
played around on facebook,
as im a phone shop manager i treated myself for a comparison on it with
the razr
xperia s
s2
my nexus s
mainly cameras , benchmarks speed tests, really testing day .
1 major astonishment i found was
i managed to take come off lock screen boot camera-take a pic before the xperia s got into camera mode. winner,
but so far so good no issues from me and my sexy white x
cheers,
Arthur Hucksake said:
I will send it back after the bank holiday IF I can get an RMA off Handtec.
I won't quit moaning about it, the OP asked for an opinion so I gave it. It's a big chunk of change to put down on a device to have something important let you down.
It's hard to appreciate a device when you can only get 3 hours screen time off a 3 hour charge.
It totally undoes all of the good work HTC have done with it. If you took the battery life of say an iPhone 4 and applied it here, it would be hands down the best piece of kit ever to come out. Literally.
I wouldn't use it as often at home because that is what the laptop and high end gaming PC is there for, so when out and about without access to a plug socket you want it to be at least reasonable. It seriously isn't.
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!
Arthur Hucksake said:
Waiting for software / firmware updates when you have a limited time frame to return it is too much of a risk.
If HTC would have pushed 1.27 on launch day as anticipated a lot of this ill feeling wouldn't be here.
Your buying a device that is different to what is in the reviews.
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I guess it is the chance we take on buying the device at launch, there always going to be problems both hardware and software we sometime so-called "bata tester" get stuck with.
You could just return it and wait for couple of months to see if HTC made any improvmements.
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Whats the problem,
At the moment, I'm getting a very similar screen on time to my SGS2 (3+hrs) & my HTC ONE X screen is much brighter then I ever had it on my SGS2.
Its also a known fact (due to reviewers) that 1.27, which we don't have yet, 'dramatically' improves battery life with 1.28 'rumoured' to extend it even further!
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That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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You clearly didn't get a DHD or sensation on launch, they had problems and I'm sure I can't remember your username popping up a million times
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
Arthur Hucksake said:
That is what I don't understand about this launch.
The phone reviewed isn't what we have. The reports of battery life and such aren't what we have paid for.
I contacted HTC by email , phone and Twitter and nobody has any ETA and even deny knowledge of an update coming for general release soon.
I just want the device the reviewers had.
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Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.
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Even without the update, your still getting a battery life very similar to Samsungs current flagship device (which has had a few software updates) - this is with a much brighter screen, a larger HD screen & a quad core processor when compared to the SGS2.
Are you just pissed you haven't got the 1.27 update (& don't know when you will...), or do you really think the battery is that bad?
I know 1.27 is gonna improve the battery, but even in its current state - when I compare it, it ain't that bad compared to the competition.
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I had the SGS2 and the battery life is better than what we got here, seriously.
And I did have a Sensation around launch , it was glitchy but again the battery life was not this poor.
But it could also be a case of not noticing it as much because I could carry a spare battery if need be, but never felt the need to use it.
Today our car broke down on the motorway and after calling the RAC then having to get a tow, the battery was nearly depleted and I had the worry of whether it would last long enough to take the call from when they arrived.
Then having to send a few texts to let people know we wouldn't be getting there, just how on earth are you meant to appreciate the greatness of this phone with the constant battery worries?
Random point, but do this.
Go into the Play store, scroll down the free apps for a short while, then check your battery status. 3 or 4% down having done practically nothing.
Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.
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Such are the risks of getting a v1.0 anything I'm afraid, it will almost always not be as good as v1.1+. You take the chance of having initial issues vs. having the latest greatest device first. This has always been the way, some of the early release iPhones have had terrible problems until receiving patches.
At the moment I'm loving the phone, I don't think the battery is all that bad so far, but looking forward to the updates making it better, I'm certainly happy with the choice I made, no question.
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Think I will try a swap out for another, see how that fares. If it is exactly the same then atleast I know i've given it a fair roll of the dice.
It's like I am really hoping there is something wrong with mine, and the battery isn't how it's meant to be but the pattern is common on here and usage stats are all pretty much the same.
I wouldn't say its right to compare it to the iPhone neither. HTC have had plenty of time to get this right. I've had the Hero> Desire > Sensation and now this. Each time I keep expecting them to "get it right" and they never quite make it.
The craziest thing is, the Hero is still my pick of the bunch judging by how I felt at the time and the fact I added a hench battery and made it even better.
i think alot of users were expecting too much from the phone massive hype led to a kick in the nuts for some .. ????take the phone as it is, if battery is going to make or break your decision then a machine like this maybe isnt for you.
end of the day it is android 4 with sense 4 big screen quad core - expect battery to be poor until you have a few cycles and updates are sent out, dhd was worse i had 2 off them....
cheers
Im getting my HTC One X on Tuesday next week from phones4u hopefully, cant wait!. But ive read such a difference in people experiences with the battery life of this phone that im not sure what to make of it! lol, ill just have to wait and see I guess and report back how i find it, it promising to see that the majority, correct me if im wrong, of UK users seem to be reporting good battery life though!

[Q] Is it recommendable to buy a HOX now?

I'm worried about the issues plaguing the device, have the updates and latest software fixed some of the issues? Overheating, screen ripples, draining battery etc?
those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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KLUVJ said:
those production issues have been fixed more than a month ago, if u like the phone, jump on without aby fears, ull love it here
overheating is within acceptable range eith custom kernels, and future releases by nvidia and htc are bound to solve this issue further
battery life has been quite good too, but this is suvjective and depends on ur usage
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful What about lag and the multi tasking issue? Did HTC fix that or are they still forcing us to accept reloading pages as a new standard for conserving ram and battery?
I haven't used an HTC phone for quite some time now and although Samsung has been really really nice, it's not as satisfying as owning an HTC
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that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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that is a sense issue. currently, all non sense roms dont hace that issue.hopefully, htc will push the new release out with a multitask fix, as they already fixed the live wallpaper issue.
lag is nonexistant on roms, really, blazing fast, i have never seen sense this fast, all due to the viper rom and the faux experimental oc kernel.
all problems are pretty much fixed in roms, and hopefully, htc will step up their game asap and release their 404 update. its been confirmed to drop in the following 2 weeks
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Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?
kingofthebraves said:
Thank you. One last thing, is the wifi problem related to hardware or just software? I'm referring to the one wherein you press the upper right hand corner of the screen and the wifi signal gets stronger.
You mentioned all problems being fixed on custom roms, what about stock roms?
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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hardware. and its not really a bad thing too, cant understand why people stress over it. stock currently has pretty good battery life, its just the three dot menu that needs a fix.the very soon to be released 404 update will resolve all that and bring a lot more enhancements to the table.
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I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!
Versa23 said:
I agree with KLUVJ that this phone is really good except of that one issue i have with push email on the sense email client. However if you do use the gmail app or any other 3rd party app like maildroid, i think you are fine.
I find that the phone overheat a little more than the iphone but within acceptable range. Tried viper rom yesterday and i was amazed! the amount of settings you could do to tweak the phone is just unbelievable.
Hope you can join the group here!
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Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only
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I'm getting a second hand one with full warranty that's been used for the past three months and this is probably one of the first few batches out of the gate so I'm just being careful
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I got mine the same way, and it's fine.
It had the wifi "grip of life" issue and a duff speaker, but I got it repaired by HTC and all is well now.
kingofthebraves said:
Regarding the wifi issue, are there phones with no problems? I've been reading up and it seems that HTC is accepting units for repair if you do have this issue, correct?
Lastly, what's the real deal with the battery life? I've read through a gazillion posts with some claiming it sucks and is below the gs3, others are praising it and saying it can beat the iphone 4 and 4s which I say is almost impossible for android. GSMarena rates the battery life of the hox 6 hrs below the GS3 with video playback at a paltry 6hrs only
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There are phones with no problems. But excessive checking for the problem i.e pushing the part between volume and cam with force again and again can actually create the problem. Yes htc is accepting units for repair.
Battery life opinion will be as different as genetic code lol. Here's mine.
Some custom roms give even better battery life than others. My phone lasts a day on full charge with me having made about 30 minutes of calls, lots of whatsapp messages, web-browsing, tweeting, etc.
I get an average of 2 hours 50 minutes of screen on time.
Say you don't touch the phone for 7-8 hours maybe your sleeping or whatever, the battery would have drained only about 2-3%. That's with data/wifi and cell reception on. Incredible Standby Time.
When you do use the phone the battery flies away like crazy . I have to fully charge my phone once a day.
what about the latest batches HT26 and SH27. what is the probability of those models to be defective (hardware issue).
Honestly, if you think we are having issues, you best check out the SGS3 forums lol.
Dude i got my HOX the day it became available in my country, i was well aware of the potential issues and luckily i got a defect free unit.
I used it as a stock device for about 2 weeks and was very impressed with battery life and overall smoothness, honestly you dont need to root a HOX to get the best out of the device, it holds its own pretty well.
I rooted because I am used to the luxury of Titanium Backup, Super User apps that I have purchased and because i dont like to wait for OS updates lol.
Why wait on a carrirer when i know how to do it myself and what Team PkmN was doing with charmeleon ROM was waaaay to tempting to just sit and watch from the side lines and miss out on the action lol, truth be told that ROM was the main reason i took the plunge.
I consider myself a power user and would recommend ViperX and Faux 005 beta 1 kernel, that is if your going to root.
Thank you for the input everyone I appreciate it. I do hope I get one without issues

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Good evening all i purchased my new lg g4 today in tan and its better than expected,im just wondering what you all think of it if anybody has 1 and was it as expected thanks for readig
I think almost every member on G4 has it. It's great that you're satisfied with your purchase but there is no need to create an extra topic just for this.
Nah its a good topic. This particular's phone community is really bad tho. I have never seen a community bashing others in every single topic. You guys cant wait for root and constantly are putting down new members.
Really...? If you dont like his post, simply ignore it and move the **** on. Back on topic: I really love the G4. It has a great camera, very fast and responsive (had a few touch issues but it was fixed with a software update) great battery life when you disable gps/data when theyre not needed.
Only downside is the design which doesnt look as good after awhile next to the iPhone and Samsung's premium look but you get leather back for that!
I have had it for almost 3 months and Im still not sure about it. Sometimes I really hate it sometimes I just like it. Lollipop is the thing that makes me wants to destroy it the most.
@kidpaddle45
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just came from a galaxy S6 in all its sapphire goodness. The G4 to me is stunningly beautiful. I was holding it next to my wife's platinum gold S6 and ooh that screen ratio is beautiful. Sure it's not the brightest kid on the block, but who needs to squint to show that off? With accessibility>vision>Screen color adjustment. I can match the colors of sexy amoled just fine. Yes, this is mine and only mine until the Spring flagships are released.
Off topic, the Xperia Z2 Tablet sub is a joke with Real condescending folks.
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Nah its a good topic. This particular's phone community is really bad tho. I have never seen a community bashing others in every single topic. You guys cant wait for root and constantly are putting down new members.
Really...? If you dont like his post, simply ignore it and move the **** on.
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Sadly this is the norm for these forums. So many people are skilled at faulting someone's post and talking to them like they're in kindergarten. My favorite is "USE SEARCH FIRST! ! THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED! ! " As if no one and their grandma has ever heard of Google or has any idea that the forum search tool often sucks.
Right now I really like the phone but it has so much less support than my G3 on these forums plus so many people having strange issues like random boot loops of death on totally unmodified phones. On top of this my variant has no official KDZ/TOT file released
I've had my G4 for about two weeks, and overall I'm happy with it. Battery life could be better, but I think part of it is something strange going on with my phone causing fairly rapid drain every now and then. May try doing a factory reset to see if that helps
It's sort of a love/hate relationship with my G4. While I love the camera and form factor of the phone, I hate the battery life, overheating, and severe lack of development. I'm really hoping Marshmallow will fix some of the issues.
If they could improve the battery life, heating issues, and random performance lag, this would be damn near a perfect phone, even un-rooted. I had the G3 and HATED it. I like the G4 significantly better. I'm curious to see what they do with the G5 next year.
Mine overheats a bit, and I'm not even playing games.
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Mine doesn't. I mean, when I play it does a bit, but it's expected.
I'm about to root my phone (I always do that, this is the first phone that I have for more than 2 weeks unrooted!!), but I do like it a lot (mainly camera).
It's really nice one (came from Galaxy S4).
What bothers me now:
1) When I use ProShot, it's draining the battery a LOT, as well as overheating (I'll check it with the DEV)
2) I do like using Google Now. However, with G4, it keeps activating GPS a LOT, more than usual!! Then, Android System shows as biggest battery drainer.
Overall, very happy.
Cheers.
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I think almost every member on G4 has it. It's great that you're satisfied with your purchase but there is no need to create an extra topic just for this.
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It's the 'General' section so it's OK to post things like that here, I guess.
But to be honest... The title of this thread could have been more professional
I came from a Nexus 5, which I dropped unfortunately... So I was kind of forced to buy the G4 a few weeks ago.
I'm quite satisfied with the whole package. The community support could be better (Maybe I'm spoiled by my 2 years Nexus experience?!)
But I think we have one of the best phones on the market and the community is growing!
Wow. That's what I said too when I took it out of the box.
issues that irk me at the moment
-battery life is horrid even with mods
-heats up a bit and like someone stated above thats not ven when youre playing games.(also flashed heat mod)
-on screen buttons which is my biggest peeve, i dont understand why people love them and they are the norm, they take up screen real estate. i constantly accidently hit them all the time when im doing things in apps. its just my personal experience but in general a clusterFuk for me.
other than that I love everything else.
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-battery life is horrid even with mods
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How much sot/screen time do you get ?
Are you on data ? on wifi ? mix
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kyogiro said:
Mine overheats a bit, and I'm not even playing games.
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Does a reboot improve anything ?
There is no overheating, if it overheats then the device will shut down. SOP on Android.
You have some processes that generating heat. if you're shooting 4k this will happen.
If screen brightness is on max and you're doing something intensive it will happen.
@One Twelve I wouldn't count using Tapatalk as intensive task. Screen brightness level is usually around 40-70%.
The workaround that I use is using power saving mode but the display is dimmer. It is far from ideal, but this way, I can easily last the day without having my battery being drained by the the two cortex A57.
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I have it for a week now, love it ofc. No problems so far. Hope I won't get any in the future too.
I believe battery life depends on what phone u came from. It's will be seem as good battery if u came from s4 but bad if u come from note 4/5.
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pakitos said:
I have had it for almost 3 months and Im still not sure about it. Sometimes I really hate it sometimes I just like it. Lollipop is the thing that makes me wants to destroy it the most.
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Kinda the same here. Love the hardware, not a fan of the software. CM12 is coming along very well, though, and as soon as Bluetooth is fixed (so I can use my Moto 360), I'll be moving to that as my daily driver. From limited use, it seems very stable!
One major issue I ran into recently was constant power cycling. Even after 3 factory resets, it would power cycle non-stop. I ended up having to get it replaced.
Strangely enough, my friend's G4 started doing the same thing on the exact same day as mine. Both Verizon variants.
I dont get alot of the comments here. I have great battery life especially on standby. Software wise g4 has less bloatware than samsung and i accredidate that to the good performance and lag free experience when the processor is one gen behind current flagships. The form factor in the hand is good too curved back and back buttons are great and took me no time to get used to coming from samsung. If i have a gripe it could be the touchscreen responsiveness butits nowhere near as bad as some people make out.

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