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Just wanted to share that these are ¢99 in the Play store right now.
Don't know if Its been posted. I'm at work and don't have the time to check. Sorry if its been posted already.
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Thanks for the info.
Thinking about buying Nova 3, but not sure because I haven't really liked any of the gameloft games I've tried so far.
Dang! I just paid full price for Modern combat 3 this morning...
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Dang! I just paid full price for Modern combat 3 this morning...
lots of stuff on sale this weekend. I'm sure more will be added
max payne is 99cents also
https://play.google.com/store/search?q="****End+of+Summer+Sale"&c=apps
Useless and very laggy on Nexus 7 (and other tegra 3 devices) because nvidia's GPU sucks. I don't understand why nvidia has not switched to tile based rendering.
These games perform much MUCH better on my old Galaxy S2 with the Mali400 gpu.
Sorry for the rant post, it's just that the nexus 7 is my first device with tegra SoC, and I'm very disappointed in its graphics performance.
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Just wanted to share that these are ¢99 in the Play store right now.
Don't know if Its been posted. I'm at work and don't have the time to check. Sorry if its been posted already.
Whiteice
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Thanks. Just got both games 99c each.
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Useless and very laggy on Nexus 7 (and other tegra 3 devices) because nvidia's GPU sucks. I don't understand why nvidia has not switched to tile based rendering.
These games perform much MUCH better on my old Galaxy S2 with the Mali400 gpu.
Sorry for the rant post, it's just that the nexus 7 is my first device with tegra SoC, and I'm very disappointed in its graphics performance.
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Foe the millionth time the GPU in the T3 is awesome. Gameloft is the one that sucks. Exhibit A - Dark Meadow, horn, heroes call, etc
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Useless and very laggy on Nexus 7 (and other tegra 3 devices) because nvidia's GPU sucks. I don't understand why nvidia has not switched to tile based rendering.
These games perform much MUCH better on my old Galaxy S2 with the Mali400 gpu.
Sorry for the rant post, it's just that the nexus 7 is my first device with tegra SoC, and I'm very disappointed in its graphics performance.
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The game has not been updated to the latest SDK. You can't really blame the device...
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Foe the millionth time the GPU in the T3 is awesome. Gameloft is the one that sucks. Exhibit A - Dark Meadow, horn, heroes call, etc
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Its just Gameloft crap. Max payne is very smooth. As is Horn.
Ps: I'm buying these games for my RAZR lol...
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I got this as it was cheap but for some strange reason there is no sound whatsoever
gamelogt hasn't made any good games since asphalt 6, nova is terrible
darkchazz said:
Useless and very laggy on Nexus 7 (and other tegra 3 devices) because nvidia's GPU sucks. I don't understand why nvidia has not switched to tile based rendering.
These games perform much MUCH better on my old Galaxy S2 with the Mali400 gpu.
Sorry for the rant post, it's just that the nexus 7 is my first device with tegra SoC, and I'm very disappointed in its graphics performance.
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Totally agree. It's a shame, they look like great games, but just way too laggy to play.
Anyone got a link to horn?
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https://play.google.com/store/search?q="****End+of+Summer+Sale"&c=apps
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The actual list can be found here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/promotion_2012_08_27_SeasonEndSale
Some good stuff. I own most of the good stuff. Draw racing looks good. And swiftkey if you like that sorta thing.
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Nova 3 plays like a charm on my RAZR lol... Great game. Good story and fast gameplay.
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Does nova3 really play as horrible as people say? They make it seem unplayable. I know it's only a $1 but I don't want to buy it even if they're working on a tegra 3 optimization. That will probably be a separate purchase.
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I have no problem playing nova 3
very smooth
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I have no problem playing nova 3
very smooth
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Really? Every review I see of people using a nexus 7 say it runs horribly ...
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Really? Every review I see of people using a nexus 7 say it runs horribly ...
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It looks great but runs leggy.
Title says it all. Is this tegra 3 the most powerful android phone ? Or is there a more powerful device . Specially in gaming
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have you seen the htc one x+ ?
Sure but that doesn't really count as is almost the same in terms of power.
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No it isn't.
It holds it's own though, especially with the tegra optimized games
Which any phone can run with chainfire 3D app..
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I doubt many phones could handle Shadow gun thd
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Which any phone can run with chainfire 3D app..
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
Title says it all. Is this tegra 3 the most powerful android phone ? Or is there a more powerful device . Specially in gaming
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Yes... it is...
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Not anymore,thanks to HTC!
It's not the most powerfull in raw performance, but it has the best looking games (thd).
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Yes... it is...
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No doubt, sure it is, and best design. :thumbup:
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I would say that title goes to the Note 2 at the moment
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I would say that title goes to the Note 2 at the moment
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Read, says phone, not mini tablets
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Im pretty sure the shader effects in tegra takes a lot of RAW performance out of the GPU and games without effects are just boring to look at.
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I would say that title goes to the Note 2 at the moment
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Agreed. In terms of THD gaming however, HTC is indeed the best.
Define Powerful...!
CPU wise no, GPU wise arguable. THD games work well with the HOX and T3.
S4Pro once optimised will possibly be the best CPU on the market, but T4 is due as well. Exynos is pretty powerful as well as shown in the Note 2.
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Im pretty sure the shader effects in tegra takes a lot of RAW performance out of the GPU and games without effects are just boring to look at.
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Agreed. In terms of THD gaming however, HTC is indeed the best.
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I ran tegra games flawless on my s3 and s2. And it can play games like hox can't play... Like any game not specially optimized for tegra xD gaming experience really sucks on my hox. Still love it and beats s3 in user experience
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I ran tegra games flawless on my s3 and s2. And it can play games like hox can't play... Like any game not specially optimized for tegra xD gaming experience really sucks on my hox. Still love it and beats s3 in user experience
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this is starting to change
GLU games, Sega and EA all run great too without THD certification
as for Gameloft they just fixed wildblood with a tegra specific update it runs very smooth now AND STILL USING ONE CORE, this goes to show that Tegra is a lot more powerful than what some benchmarks make it sound, for instance tegra has 5x the vertex power of the Mali400 on the SGS3 just run the vertex test in GL benchmark and you will be shocked
Mali has better shader and pixel fill rate, Tegra has much better vertex output, so if you want to average the results they are almost equal, unless a game is really shader heavy it will run on the s3 better and if a game is really vertex heavy it will run better on t3, finally both device get the same results in the pixel/shader heavy GL bench 2.5 HD test @720p
finally no, many THD games can not be made to run on the S3, chainfire is old now and hasnt been updated since ages
Shadowgun THD, Horn and many other Tegra games can not be made to run on the S3
the notion of playing Tegra games on other devices has been long dispelled, especially if those games are really Tegra optimized
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this is starting to change
GLU games, Sega and EA all run great too without THD certification
as for Gameloft they just fixed wildblood with a tegra specific update it runs very smooth now AND STILL USING ONE CORE, this goes to show that Tegra is a lot more powerful than what some benchmarks make it sound, for instance tegra has 5x the vertex power of the Mali400 on the SGS3 just run the vertex test in GL benchmark and you will be shocked
Mali has better shader and pixel fill rate, Tegra has much better vertex output, so if you want to average the results they are almost equal, unless a game is really shader heavy it will run on the s3 better and if a game is really vertex heavy it will run better on t3, finally both device gets the same results in the pixel/shader heavy GL bench 2.5 HD test @720p
finally no, many THD games can not be made to run on the S3, chainfire is old now and hasnt been updated since ages
Shadowgun THD, Horn and many other Tegra games can not be made to run on the S3
the notion of playing Tegra games on other devices has been long dispelled, especially if those games are really Tegra optimized
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Its rumored that the S4 and N3 will have Exynos 5 Octa CPU, Mali-T658 (8-Core) GPU, 2GB of RAM . Is this harware good enough to run PS2 emulator and Xbox 1 emulator?
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What you have now is more than enough. Exynos four is plenty powerful
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Are there any PS2/XBox emulators
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If the s4 is coming out next month, then maybe they won't have the 8 core chip yet. To soon to make it to market
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An 8 core!? That freaking ridiculous. A battery life on the phone would last as long as me running... (I don't like running)
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An 8 core!? That freaking ridiculous. A battery life on the phone would last as long as me running... (I don't like running)
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That's what everyone said about a quad core. Yet here we are.
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big.LITTLE does not activate all eight cores at the same time towards a task.
You will either get quad-core Cortex-A15 performance (heavy loads) or quad-core Cortex-A7 performance (light loads).
Gaming system emulation is limited by the CPU, not the GPU. The Exynos 5 will be a step up but probably not enough.
Wont effect battery life as long as propper governors are set and the batter is atleast 2700 (I now thats smaller than ours but so will the entire sg4 compared to the gn2)... inter-processor fluidity, gui, screen size, android version, etc should better battery life as well
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Like I said. You do understand that these telephones pack enough processing power if not more than the original PS had. Probably. I haven't actually checked but I'm pretty sure Thad note 3 will handle emulating ten year old games....
The question that should be being asked is if someone can develop an emulator that isn't buggy as hell
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The entire purpose of the octa core is to improve battery. When the device doesn't need to run at high power the second 4 cores a low power arm 7 will take over. The are saying it will improve battery by 70%. I will have to see that to believe it but if they say 70% I bet we can count on gaining at least 40% which would be awesome.
sent via note 2 in boss mode @ quad core 2 ghz
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Are there any PS2/XBox emulators
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Not yet, but im hoping for development with the upcoming hardware from Samsung and LG
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I just can't wait for KLP. I was reading they are going to optimize it for quad core cpu's and will also do allot of battery optimization. This phone here, the Note 2 is a beast of a phone as it is. The battery life is great, the screen is amazing and I've been using the s-pen more and more and I like it much more then I thought I would.
Yeah the S4 will be nice but the Note 3, that will be amazing. Kinda like the s3 then the Note 2 comes out with better everything and a much better screen. I can't handle pen tile screens.
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Also, if you look at the USA s3, is dual core and it still packs more then enough power. That's why when KLP comes out and we get it rolled out to us. Our battery life will be even better then it is now since it will be quad core optimized.
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Gaming emulation still requires power since it's running on another Os. A reason you don't see xbox 360 or ps3 emulations atm.
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KLP on the note 2 will be amazing and ive been playing with the spen lately its fun never thought id use it but its pretty fun to use
It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Different CPU architectures, and other parts so you cannot compare mhz vs mhz. Also depends on what you are testing exactly.
Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Note 2 is a power house its enjoyable. Any more power is just bragging right from here on out. For oc it has to do with heat dispensing, voltage the archatech the NM of the chip and of course software.
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It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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I know I'm going to get some heat for this, but quadrant scores are around 12750 whereas my note 2 has topped at around 8500...I'm not saying I can't do anything less on our device; I do enjoy having the highest performance of anything out there
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Haha, like I said, I knew I'd get get heat for that, and I realize benchmarks aren't the most accurate way of determining power and performance...but I do like the bragging rights of saying that mine is numerically higher. I know it's kind of wrong, but it's also fun to mess with the settings and find what combos get the best results which led me to this post. I was also more curious as to why even though our device clocked higher with otherwise similar specs still don't match up.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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Its not so much the cpu that is the biggest change in quadrant its in the power of the gpu that the note 2 has a mali 400 while some models of the S4 have much more powerful gpu's
Does that even matter in Quadrant? If you have a device with vsync off then it will score much higher in GPU than the Note 2 with Vsync.
Also, if you are going to only focus on Benchmarks to compare, at least use a more decent test or various tests to get a broader perspective like 3DMark, Antutu and Vellamo.
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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But shouldn't they be in a similar range? Forgive me for the repetition, I just want to know a little more about the way this works.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I do understand now. I'm just being clear. My apologies.
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Idk about anyone else but I can't wait for the galaxy note 3. I mean I will be sad to replace my note 2 but the only phone I would ever replace it with would be the note 3. Not quite sure the specs...rumors have been a 2.3ghz quad core snapdragon processor with 3gb of ram which sounds amazing.
Anybody else feel this way?
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I have another yrat and a half before I can upgrade so it will be a Note 4 for me
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Same here.. Stull love my note 2. With how fast it already is without all the bloatware, it's already fast enough for me.
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I always do an early upgrade...I love my note 2 but I don't think I could wait until November 2014 to get a new phone lol
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I always do an early upgrade...I love my note 2 but I don't think I could wait until November 2014 to get a new phone lol
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I have another yrat and a half before I can upgrade so it will be a Note 4 for me
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+1 to this^^^^^ even tho I can upgrade when I want, having 5 lines on the account.
I'll wait for the 4, like to stay with the even numbers:sly:. The Note 3 is just going to be a over sized S4, with a pen.. Jmho
My girl is going to get one so I'll just play with and hack that one!
Just my 2¢®
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I'm still undecided... It would have to really wow me. I might just wait 5 months or so until the upgrade price drops
I actually almost bought the galaxy mega 6.3 but read too many reviews basically saying the note 2 is way better......no point in buying a phone when you have the best there is in your hand already
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I might stay with the Note 2 unless they give me an early upgrade. If not the note 2 is fine. Then you are going to be a can't wait for the note 4. A never ending disease.
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Idk about anyone else but I can't wait for the galaxy note 3. I mean I will be sad to replace my note 2 but the only phone I would ever replace it with would be the note 3. Not quite sure the specs...rumors have been a 2.3ghz quad core snapdragon processor with 3gb of ram which sounds amazing.
Anybody else feel this way?
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Everybody is excited about the Note 3 because its predecessor, the Note 2 is a legendary device and arguably the best mobile phone ever to date. So the expectations are through the roof. Thats the thing, expectations. I think we are expecting so much out of this device that many of us will be disappointed. Here's what i think the note 3 should be in order to be a successful and a worthy upgrade:
- Specs ( samsung NEVER disappoints when it comes to specs on paper), Snapdragon S800 or Exynos 5 octa 2nd gen, 2-3 GB Ram, 32GB of storage minimum with expandable memory, 13mp camera just like the S4 but with OIS, IR blaster, dedicated camera button would be nice, 1080P display Amoled or LCD is just fine with me personally, gorilla glass 3, better speakers than the Note 2 already pretty good speakers.
- Enhanced S pen functionality, more pressure points, more features, more comfortable to hold, S pen to work with the capacitive buttons
- More useful features like Multi-window, S-buddy page, pop up browser. No need for gimmicks like smart scroll or smart pause that can potentially cause the phone to lag which leads to my next and most important point personally...
- NO FREAKING LAG!!!!!!! Just like the note 2 and not like the S4 when it launched. It needs to have an amazingly fast and smooth performance. If this isnt the case then it will not be worth upgrading from the note 2 regardless of the number of cores it has. There should be 0 tolerance with lag considering a snapdragon S800 or Exynos 5 octa SoC plus android 4.3.
- Design. I hope Samsung can be less predictable with their design, make something different from the S4, S4 mini and S mega 6.3. Thinner and lighter would be nice, less bezel and more comfortable in the hand.
- UI. I expect it to be very similar to the S4 touchwiz interface plus some additional things for the S pen. If it can change that would be nice but i wont complain otherwise.
- Battery life. The note 2 battery life is amazing, period. The Note 3 needs to be better, period.
- display size. 5.7 inch would be pretty nice. Some folks are suggesting that the Note 3 should have a 6.4 inch display just like the Z ultra but it woudn't benefit neither us nor Samsung. Future Notes would have to be as big as 6.4 inches or bigger otherwise it would be a downgrade. Bigger than 6.4 inch is definitely tablet territory so 5.7 inch is fine so next year they can do 5.9 and so on.
I think if Samsung manages to follow these points, the Note 3 will be unbeatable.
It'll also be nice to have some stable releases of CM and have full code for the SD800. I am very much so looking forward to upgrading to the note 3.
I love my note 2 but an CPU/Screen update is always welcomed
having faster processor and more ram is good and well but at the end of the day it all about OS and how it manages it resources. I mean look at apple and windows phones running less spec hardware but it the OS that make them stand apart from the crowd. Quad core processor really? **** the day I can run hard core applications like adobe or autocad or other enginering software then I would say yes we need a I7 processor. For daily use dual core is just fine. Yes to more ram but more faster processor why?
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+1 to this^^^^^ even tho I can upgrade when I want, having 5 lines on the account.
I'll wait for the 4, like to stay with the even numbers:sly:. The Note 3 is just going to be a over sized S4, with a pen.. Jmho
My girl is going to get one so I'll just play with and hack that one!
Just my 2¢®
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note 2 was oversized s3 with a pen
and note 4 will be oversized s5 probably too lol
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note 2 was oversized s3 with a pen
and note 4 will be oversized s5 probably too lol
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having faster processor and more ram is good and well but at the end of the day it all about OS and how it manages it resources. I mean look at apple and windows phones running less spec hardware but it the OS that make them stand apart from the crowd. Quad core processor really? **** the day I can run hard core applications like adobe or autocad or other enginering software then I would say yes we need a I7 processor. For daily use dual core is just fine. Yes to more ram but more faster processor why?
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Neither windows phone nor ios use true multitasking though, they both tombstone applications.
Not really a good comparison.
Dual core is fine? You're already using a quad core phone lol
get tmobile lol
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just traded my gs4 for a note 2 and im loving it. ill probably wait until the nexus 5 comes out this fall to decide if i get the note 3 or that.
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Neither windows phone nor ios use true multitasking though, they both tombstone applications.
Not really a good comparison.
Dual core is fine? You're already using a quad core phone lol
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Maybe u use multiwindow but I dont. I know the phone is quad but as I said dual core would have been just fine. The only way samsung can make money is by changing hardware and introducing features that most of the general public will never use like S4
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fix-this! said:
just traded my gs4 for a note 2 and im loving it. ill probably wait until the nexus 5 comes out this fall to decide if i get the note 3 or that.
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Did u trade it on XDA or some website
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Maybe u use multiwindow but I dont. I know the phone is quad but as I said dual core would have been just fine. The only way samsung can make money is by changing hardware and introducing features that most of the general public will never use like S4
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Did u trade it on XDA or some website
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It isn't even just multiwindow....
Real multitasking is more than just that.
I actually do use it as well. The only way they can make money? They are the biggest phone manufacturer out there right now. I don't think that is why they're making money. Plus who is to say how many people or who uses what features? Just because I don't use some doesn't mean others don't.
So they change hardware, and introduce new features, don't all companies do that? lol
There is a sticky to discuss other devices