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I have been putting up with the free titanium backup, despite the lack of full schedules and easy backups and restores. Is it worth the $6?
I think its worth it just to support the developer of the app the features are well worth it as well.
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If you ever need to restore 40+ apps plus data... yes.
With the pro version, its a couple presses to automate the restores, with the free version, you have to confirm every individual app, which is very time consuming.
Also you'll be supporting the developer.
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If you ever need to restore 40+ apps plus data... yes.
With the pro version, its a couple presses to automate the restores, with the free version, you have to confirm every individual app, which is very time consuming.
Also you'll be supporting the developer.
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I agree 100%!
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It was worth it for me.
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I have been putting up with the free titanium backup, despite the lack of full schedules and easy backups and restores. Is it worth the $6?
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YES YES YES
Support the developer of the app... and the extras you get...
What all of these guys already said. If you flash different ROMs on a fairly regularly basis, titanium pro will way more then cut your time in half. Supporting the developer for making such a helpful app for what we do is nice also.
But just the app itself is worth every penny. I can't believe I dealt with the free version as long as I did.
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agree with all. was using the free and just upgraded. don't flash a ton of roms, but supporting developers who make great apps in their spare time is good enough for me.
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I have been putting up with the free titanium backup, despite the lack of full schedules and easy backups and restores. Is it worth the $6?
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It's worth every penny. I just installed Pro a couple days ago and with the tap of one button, your ROM is fully restored and setup exactly like you had it before. The guy that invented Titanium should be praised.
YES. Pro is worth it for your time and a must for any ROM flasher.
Fork out the 6 bucks, its worth it!
I totally agree, best app you could ever buy from a rooting standpoint
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Bought it.
I use it solely because I wanted to backup my WhatsApp chats on my Galaxy Tab 7.7.... Worth every penny I spent with Titanium Backup Pro! I would have to go through a tougher route if it wasn't for TBP. So yeap, I am happy that I paid for the pro version of TB!
Anyone who has ever had even a passing interest in rooting their phone should not be caught dead without this app. Most important app I have for ROM flashes.
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I know the OP already bought it, but I'll use this moment to get on a soapbox about paying for android apps.
It's six dollars. A new phone, and 2 years of contracted service costs thousands (which we are totally getting ripped off on)! But we hesitate to spend 3,4,5,6 dollars (on a 1 time purchase... that you can use indefinitely... even on your next phone).
These products (software like titanium) are what make these phones so awesome. I use other features in titanium besides simple backing up and restoring. Today I just restored more than a dozen old games (with the data so my progress was intact) that I uninstalled months ago. Then I moved all of them to my sd card... and back to my phone...then back to the sd card (I was doing some experimentation with sd-ext). Moving them like that, one app at a time, would waste so much time. Instead it was so automated and easy doing it in batches. I could do other stuff while titanium did it for me. Just today that was probably worth 6 bucks of time saved.
And I bought the pro version a couple years ago when it was 4 bucks.
If these devs never get paid, they aren't gonna keep making this awesome stuff for us.
riderns and
Absolutely.
Like everyone has said about multiple app restore (awesome), box and dropbox integration. Especially when Box was running their promo for free 50GB for android accounts or something like that. My TIBackup has its own Box account with TONS of space.
Been on the free version for ages, but after flashing several times this week I think I'm about ready to take the plunge.
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I know the OP already bought it, but I'll use this moment to get on a soapbox about paying for android apps.
It's six dollars. A new phone, and 2 years of contracted service costs thousands (which we are totally getting ripped off on)! But we hesitate to spend 3,4,5,6 dollars (on a 1 time purchase... that you can use indefinitely... even on your next phone).
These products (software like titanium) are what make these phones so awesome. I use other features in titanium besides simple backing up and restoring. Today I just restored more than a dozen old games (with the data so my progress was intact) that I uninstalled months ago. Then I moved all of them to my sd card... and back to my phone...then back to the sd card (I was doing some experimentation with sd-ext). Moving them like that, one app at a time, would waste so much time. Instead it was so automated and easy doing it in batches. I could do other stuff while titanium did it for me. Just today that was probably worth 6 bucks of time saved.
And I bought the pro version a couple years ago when it was 4 bucks.
If these devs never get paid, they aren't gonna keep making this awesome stuff for us.
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Here Here. If you flash often, it is a must. If you like it and don't flash often, I suggest you still buy. It is a great piece of software and it WILL save you time and headaches when you have app or system problems. Do it!
Price Differences Help Please
Hi i have a few questions on the prices of pro
1. On the app itself it says the pro version is $6 but on the market/store it says it's $7 i emailed them a couple of times asking the questions but nobody gotten back to me
2. What are the differences between the 2?
http://majorgeeks.com/story.php?id=38037
All adblocking apps have been removed officially by Google.
I'm honestly surprised that it didn't happen sooner. Ad revenue taken from developers causes developers to cease development of apps because they aren't making any money at all. Let's face it, most of us don't buy apps. I get ad supported apps and Amazon's free app of the day. I have bought maybe 5 apps since I got the Hero when it came out...
^^ agreed ^^ it's their app their choice. You're choice to use it or not. Sucks but the way it is.
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That does suck. That was the biggest reason I rooted half of my phones...:crying:
I buy most of the apps I use. But it's just a hosts file.
Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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If it's gonna make more devs, company create more apps/games for the android market then why not. I think little by little they will try to emulate the apple store with limitations and more restrictions . but like dude above me said just get the free app elsewhere, kinda the same deal with flash no biggie.
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I support apps that are worth the money, like ROM ToolBox, Carbon Backup, Nova (and not all of these even have ads) but some free ads have no pro alternatives. I'm pro for developers making money...but if a user wants to block ads, that's their choice to do so on their OPEN-SOURCE OS lol. It's not a huge problem for people like us who can simply just load the .apk up or insert a modified hostfiles..but it looks if it was an "Appleish" move and that's the main reason I'm disappointed. If anyone gets what I mean by that. Regardless, since this had to happen, hopefully the developers make more money through ads and better apps can be developed and funded for? (Just a positive insight)
TL;DR : Google shouldn't have removed apps that didn't infringe on copyrights, but some developers still offer their apps unofficially thankfully. And we should now see devs being supported more!
Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I also buy the apps I really like. If i use that app on occasion then i dont mind the ads, as long as they are the banners at the bottom or something, and dont just pop up in full screen when im trying to do something. Those apps that do that, i usually delete and just find an alternative app.
Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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md1008 said:
Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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Indeed. It just feels as if Google is going towards Apples iron fist way of running things. No external sd card in the Nexus 4 and no removable battery as mentioned above? Apple phones also fill that criteria. Only time will tell to see if they become truly brazen.
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elflip88 said:
I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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Exactly my reason. If an app is worthy I have no problem shelling out a few bucks for it. It's just the occasional free apps that just straight up comes with ads. No paid versions.
Well i have bought 97% of my apps so for me it's no big deal what i don't like is that my payed apps come with ingame purchase.
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I think the move sucks but honestly I'm not surprised
I assume most of the apps that got pulled are going to be online pretty soon.
http://adblockplus.org/en/android-about
I personally never removed ads anyways. The devs put a lot of time and effort into these and if I'm too cheap to pay for it, I can deal with the ads.
BTW 95% of my apps have been purchased if they have a pro/paid version.
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
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Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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Once Google has a windows and Mac app like iTunes then they could do this cloud service crap, it's not time yet. They are always going to give a lame excuse but I'm happy not all manufacturers are carrying along.
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Not sure where to post this but if you still don't have Tasker on your phone this is a great deal. I'm contemplating on getting this because I purchased this on his website...which is more painful to install after each wipe.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&
It's tempting, but I'm just not sure if it's practical for me. Also, I'm a little intimidated by its complexity. Does it have much affect on battery life?
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JaylanPHNX said:
It's tempting, but I'm just not sure if it's practical for me. Also, I'm a little intimidated by its complexity. Does it have much affect on battery life?
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Not really the point of the app. I know some people try to turn off data when the screen's off, and other such nonsense, but the app is made for much more than that. Think of it like automation software. You can have it turn your volume off or low when you're at work/school, start Pandora when it pairs with your car's Bluetooth, whatever you can think of. This is one of those fundamental apps that every rooted android user should have IMHO.
P.S. it's also my opinion that ever android user should be rooted, every smartphone user should have Android for their OS, and that everyone should own a smartphone
For me it says 2.86$ , if i try to buy it the total price is 3.02$ , what type of crap is that?
same here...so weird
is it diff country diff pricing?
damn OP beat me to it lol saw the news on android police xDD
anyways its $1.99 here NY (USA)
Just purchased, thanks a lot... Came out to $1.99 for me as well
Im located in NY
Guess it's only $1.99 in the USA, the rest of us have to pay a bit more, but it's still a steal even for $3.02 (what I paid).
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For me it says 2.86$ , if i try to buy it the total price is 3.02$ , what type of crap is that?
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same here :silly:
update:
got it for $1.99 using this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978281
I got it earlier. Whether I actually use it is another thing lol like the thousands of apps I buy and never use
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Not sure where to post this but if you still don't have Tasker on your phone this is a great deal. I'm contemplating on getting this because I purchased this on his website...which is more painful to install after each wipe.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&
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I too bought it through PayPal a couple of years ago. Just bought it again as I like to have all my apps tied to the Play Store
$1.99 / €1.99 / £1.99
I've just checked dollars, euros and pounds (by spoofing locations) and it seems to be 1.99 of whichever currency from where I am (Ireland)
Bought in euros as it was easiest - not worth the saving to fanny about paying in dollars!
I bought AutomateIt pro a while back and regretted not having bought Tasker for some reason in the days following. I can't remember exactly why, but I bought Tasker this morning when I saw this sale - I'm sure I'll remember what it was I couldn't do with AutomateIt!
Tasker seems to have a new Holo UI which appears a bit more user friendly - will have a good play with it over the weekend
1,99€ for me... Well worth the price.
i paid full price for this and its worth it ten hundred times over, so at $1.99, this is a steal.
Tempting. While I don't use it it would be nice to automate my wifi for work and home.
Thanks for the heads up.
Bet he's been selling a lot due to the great xda TV videos.
I've been using llama on my Nexus devices (4, 7, 10) for a while and it is free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llama&hl=en
But Tasker for $1.99 is a good deal and it doesn't get discounted very often. Now if only Titanium Backup would on sale at that price I'll be all over it!
mine still $2.86
got it yesterday (just because $1.99 is still much better than ~$6.xx)
i have no use for it right now, but figured it was worth the purchase
Can someone explain me the following:
Why with this profile:
Cell Near
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Time from X to Y ===> Wifi On (Set On in task)
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Wifi Not Connected
My wifi keep toggling on and off constantly.
It is the only one active profile I have. So, it should search if i'm near a cell, check time and if wifi is not already turned on then turn it On. It shouldn't switch it off as i DON'T HAVE Exit task which would do it.
There is a profile setting which restores previous state
Another question - is there any way of setting priorities for "checks"? For example, some of them may require sensors to be used (which is power consuming) while others can just check variables in the memory (less consuming). So,if it is an AND condition of few checks then by ordering them in a right sequence I can make profile less power consuming. For example, why to check the second condition in AND statement if the first one is already false.
Order of checks doesn't matter
fatum2002 said:
Can someone explain me the following:
Why with this profile:
Cell Near
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Time from X to Y ===> Wifi On (Set On in task)
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Wifi Not Connected
My wifi keep toggling on and off constantly.
It is the only one active profile I have. So, it should search if i'm near a cell, check time and if wifi is not already turned on then turn it On. It shouldn't switch it off as i DON'T HAVE Exit task which would do it.
There is a profile setting which restores previous state
Another question - is there any way of setting priorities for "checks"? For example, some of them may require sensors to be used (which is power consuming) while others can just check variables in the memory (less consuming). So,if it is an AND condition of few checks then by ordering them in a right sequence I can make profile less power consuming. For example, why to check the second condition in AND statement if the first one is already false.
Order of checks doesn't matter
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Maybe because the phone changes between different cells even if you don't move.
You have to add more cells to a location.
This was posted everywhere else but in here, so I figured I'd bring it here too.
I got a notification from Google Play that this app was on sale for 99 cents for the next week. Highly recommended since most people use either the XDA application or Tapatalk.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quoord.tapatalkHD&hl=en
Lol! Beat ya to it! Just not in its own thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44585402
For some reason though it won't let me buy the thing!!! :banghead:
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Just bought the app and man this app is sweet! Looks great on Illusion with a custom theme. Really smooth transitions and so many features. Highly recommend this app and for a buck, its totally worth it. Thanks for bringing it up!
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TheLastSidekick said:
This was posted everywhere else but in here, so I figured I'd bring it here too.
I got a notification from Google Play that this app was on sale for 99 cents for the next week. Highly recommended since most people use either the XDA application or Tapatalk.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quoord.tapatalkHD&hl=en
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Not happy about buying it twice. That's bull excrement.
Funny that the beta would no longer connect to XDA. Buy it again, and suddenly it's working fine. All the annoying bugs fixed without a new beta release. Weird, huh?
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Not happy about buying it twice. That's bull excrement.
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I feel you man. I'm buying it today. I'd ask for a refund honestly from the developer'.
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Aerowinder said:
Not happy about buying it twice. That's bull excrement.
Funny that the beta would no longer connect to XDA. Buy it again, and suddenly it's working fine. All the annoying bugs fixed without a new beta release. Weird, huh?
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I had the same problem when the Tablet version went live to Tapatalk HD. I still had the older beta version from right before it went live. My work around for that was to Fire up the app, let it prompt me to buy the new version and then I just hit back. The prompt closed out and I was able to use the version like normal.
I missed the initial sale of .99 when it came out of beta and the price skyrocketed to $3.99 or something like that. It never came down again. Not sure if anyone can use this work around or not, but I would suggest just ponying up the .99 for the new app. It is a pretty big upgrade in style and performance, so I doubt we'll have to do this all over again for a few years. TTv2 hadn't changed its overall look and functionality ever I think.
I have this new version, uninstalled my previous Tapatalk HD version on my tablet, I still use the TTv2 as well.
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I feel you man. I'm buying it today. I'd ask for a refund honestly from the developer'.
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Good luck with that. The old Rootzwiki app was a skinned Tapatalk and every time they (RW) upgraded the app, they asked for you to buy it again. Pissed a bunch of people off to the point, I am not sure it is even for sale any longer. Might be, but I don't care since I don't have to use it bc of the current and v2 versions of Tapatalk. Plus RW has been sold twice since those dark times. :silly:
And its also only fair to consider thatthis isn't an updated Tapatalk 2. As I understand it, its a completely rebuilt version. With the ammount of work that goes into it, I have no issue parting ways with another dollar.
Betas shouldn't be expected to work once the final release is out. Betas are for testing and working out the kinks before the actual release. They couldve kept it internal and not let you play for free at all! Plus it'd be a much longer wait! If you were the developer, would you want to let the beta version continue to work when this is how you make part of your living?
They couldve done things much differently if they were just out to screw people. No offense if you disagree with me, but if a dollar is too much to ask, stay with Tapatalk 2.
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Sorry, realized that may have come out a little harsh! Not intended! Just trying to consider the amount of work that gets put in and that I don't think anyone should be expected to work for free! Besides, I think woody is right, this'll get us for the next few years I'm sure.
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And its also only fair to consider thatthis isn't an updated Tapatalk 2. As I understand it, its a completely rebuilt version. With the ammount of work that goes into it, I have no issue parting ways with another dollar.
Betas shouldn't be expected to work once the final release is out. Betas are for testing and working out the kinks before the actual release. They couldve kept it internal and not let you play for free at all! Plus it'd be a much longer wait! If you were the developer, would you want to let the beta version continue to work when this is how you make part of your living?
They couldve done things much differently if they were just out to screw people. No offense if you disagree with me, but if a dollar is too much to ask, stay with Tapatalk 2.
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Sorry, realized that may have come out a little harsh! Not intended! Just trying to consider the amount of work that gets put in and that I don't think anyone should be expected to work for free! Besides, I think woody is right, this'll get us for the next few years I'm sure.
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By all means I completely agree. I still have Tapatalk 2 from Amazon for free. And I'm buying Tapatalk 4 tonight. But I could understand the slight anger of having paid 4.00$ supporting an app and developer you love and getting pooped on the next week by a special.
And for anyone who is super frugal, just TiB Tapatalk 4 Beta and reinstall it because it's no longer on the market. Though I'd frown upon this personally. The beta still allowed me to connect to XDA yesterday evening however.
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@DocHoliday77
Understand your thoughts on beta testing. Disagree with them. Don't like the way this new rollout (if you will) happened. For more than 24 hours with the last beta (I did not know a new version was released), it simply would not connect to XDA, but would connect to my other forum accounts. Only one time did it prompt me to update, and it was about the 120th time I tried to log in. In this case, there is no reason to keep a beta internal. Letting consumers shoulder the testing work saves them months of time, and we get an update faster. They turn out the product faster and with far fewer issues than if they do internal testing.
The $0.99 price point is excellent (while it lasts). I use the app every day, and as such, have no problem paying for it (once). My problem with the new update is this: v2 and v4 have the exact same purpose, and let's be honest, the same functionality. It is the same app. With a new holo GUI. That's the problem. I'm inclined to believe v2 will either no longer be updated, or updated much less frequently. Why bother updating the old code? It's working fine.
What it boils down to is I don't want to pay for the same app twice. I would hate to see this practice become commonplace, like DLC has for consoles/PC gaming. Paid updates is a slippery slope.
@Aerowinder
I can totally see where you are coming from. And my statement about keeping beta testing internal was simply just to point out they do have an option. I agree its not the best option, but it is one. I completely agree with you about the benefit of public betas, as I had stated before as well. But I did not realize they would just shut down any part of it without some sort of notice. While I dont expect a beta release to continue functioning after the final release, I would expect a little bit of a grace period before just shutting it down like that! And without notice too. I would agree that this is not good practice.
I realize that the purpose of V2 and V4 are the same, and they offer very similar functionality, but I was under the impression that V4 was a complete rewrite and does add to the features and functionality of V2. Exactly what the differences are, I cannot remember off the top of my head, but I do recall reading about some of them when the beta was first released a month or so ago. But even if the biggest difference is better stability for now and in the near future, I think its worth paying for the new version. Updates can only take an app so far before it needs a major overhaul. And often, starting from the ground up is the best approach when you want to provide a quality product.
Also, try to consider it from a business standpoint. I think it is reasonable to assume that the majority of people who are going to use the app, have long since purchased it. Meaning most new updates and work involved are done with diminishing returns. After a while it begins to cost a lot more to keep it up to date than they receive in sales revenue. If a business continues with that kind of path, pretty soon you will get no updates and the app will simply just die. I do think that it would've been good if they allowed current users to possibly upgrade at a lower cost, but then, I kind of think that is what the .99 sale does anyway. If not for the sale, I would be in more agreement with your position on purchasing the new update. $4-5 is kind of pushing it to begin with, and if you paid full price for the previous one I can certainly understand the resistance there.
All in all, I do get your position on not wanting to purchase the same app twice, I think everyone has been in similar situations where they would be unhappy about a purchase. But I think it has more to do with perception, at least in certain cases. If you look at it a certain way, you might get downright angry about what a developer does, but if you look at it from a different angle, it could have quite the opposite affect.
I remember maybe a year or so ago, there was a weather app that was gaining some popularity, but then the developer decided to create a new app based on the original, but with everything his customers had been requesting. They now had to buy the new one. But to make it worse, he completely took the original down, so no one could even re-download it anymore. After a lot of complaints and gripes, he then proceeded to piss everyone off even more still by re-releasing the original, but as a "Classic" version for which people had to buy a second time if they preferred it over the new one! Needless to say his popularity seemed to die down quite a bit after that.
I know that is OT but thought I would throw it out there as a comparison for a really horrible "upgrade path" chosen by a developer.
In ending, I agree with you that paid updates can be a slippery slope, but in some circumstances, it may be unavoidable if the developer wants to continue providing his products to people. At least it isn't one of those where you have to purchase features by IAP's! Or worse yet, having to spend $50-100 to get enough coins or gems to get the one really cool in-game item!
I must say, though I usually completely agree with what you say, I do tend to enjoy disagreeing with you bro! You always have excellent points to debate against! And you never try to prove an impossible point, just because you really want it to be true! :good:
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Wow! I did not expect that post to be that long!!!! Didn't realize it until I hit Post Reply and it showed it to me!
These are all good points.
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I realize that the purpose of V2 and V4 are the same, and they offer very similar functionality, but I was under the impression that V4 was a complete rewrite and does add to the features and functionality of V2. Exactly what the differences are, I cannot remember off the top of my head, but I do recall reading about some of them when the beta was first released a month or so ago. But even if the biggest difference is better stability for now and in the near future, I think its worth paying for the new version. Updates can only take an app so far before it needs a major overhaul. And often, starting from the ground up is the best approach when you want to provide a quality product.
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Complete rewrites are often necessary, especially for an amateur developer. You learn more over time, change your mind, and receive input from others that changes your mind. I rewrote an app I made over the course of a few years three times, each time a total overhaul and in a new language. Hundreds of hours, but I'm an amateur. Loved every minute of it, though! That's one reason why I don't do it any more, just takes too much time if you aren't charging for the product.
Also, try to consider it from a business standpoint. I think it is reasonable to assume that the majority of people who are going to use the app, have long since purchased it. Meaning most new updates and work involved are done with diminishing returns. After a while it begins to cost a lot more to keep it up to date than they receive in sales revenue. If a business continues with that kind of path, pretty soon you will get no updates and the app will simply just die. I do think that it would've been good if they allowed current users to possibly upgrade at a lower cost, but then, I kind of think that is what the .99 sale does anyway. If not for the sale, I would be in more agreement with your position on purchasing the new update. $4-5 is kind of pushing it to begin with, and if you paid full price for the previous one I can certainly understand the resistance there.
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This would be undoubtedly true if the smartphone market was stagnant. But there are millions of new Android device activations everyday. ICS and JB, so that's v4. This supports my argument that v2 will slowly become obsolete and no longer receive updates due to the aforementioned cost/time ratio. Also, what happens when someone who wants Tapatalk buys v2 because it's the first listing on the market? Then later find out they could have had a far superior version for the same cost? I suspect these people will not be accommodated. And we both know that some people just don't read.
My suggestion would be to make v2 free but with ads, charge for v4 (free upgrade from v2 paid). This avoids people buying the wrong version. It avoids people having to buy the app twice. And it allows people to try an older version to see if they like it before they spend $5 on it (aka a demo). It could even have some features removed to encourage people to buy the paid v4. Google's 15 minute refund period is a joke at best. It takes 15 minutes to get this app set up. It's useless. Anyhow, you can really only charge people for the same idea for so long before they get wise (hoping this happens with Call of Duty sometime soon...). They need to make a new app that people want. They need something innovative. Something unmatched. Tapatalk is no longer that. It's possible that from a business standpoint, this had to be done for the company to stay afloat. But I would argue that if this is the case, it's a sinking ship anyhow. And throwing more money at them isn't going to fix anything.
I remember maybe a year or so ago, there was a weather app that was gaining some popularity, but then the developer decided to create a new app based on the original, but with everything his customers had been requesting. They now had to buy the new one. But to make it worse, he completely took the original down, so no one could even re-download it anymore. After a lot of complaints and gripes, he then proceeded to piss everyone off even more still by re-releasing the original, but as a "Classic" version for which people had to buy a second time if they preferred it over the new one! Needless to say his popularity seemed to die down quite a bit after that.
I know that is OT but thought I would throw it out there as a comparison for a really horrible "upgrade path" chosen by a developer.
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I was unaware of this, but it sounds like he got what he deserved. Good.
In ending, I agree with you that paid updates can be a slippery slope, but in some circumstances, it may be unavoidable if the developer wants to continue providing his products to people. At least it isn't one of those where you have to purchase features by IAP's! Or worse yet, having to spend $50-100 to get enough coins or gems to get the one really cool in-game item!
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I do this with some F2Ps on PC; APB (still a great game to this day) and League. Not doing that with an app on my phone, it's just not going to happen.
I must say, though I usually completely agree with what you say, I do tend to enjoy disagreeing with you bro! You always have excellent points to debate against! And you never try to prove an impossible point, just because you really want it to be true! :good:
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There aren't many people (online) who will take the time to articulate a point, or someone who will actually give information when asked instead of blowing you off. Always enjoy finding someone else who will :good:
Took advantage of the sale but I have problems connecting to the xda forums. It states to contact the administrator if problem persists. Anyone else have this problem when first buying the app?
neotoky said:
Took advantage of the sale but I have problems connecting to the xda forums. It states to contact the administrator if problem persists. Anyone else have this problem when first buying the app?
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Unfortunately, no. Delete the app, and reinstall it and maybe reboot the phone afterwards?
Beta still connecting fine for me
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You beat me to it
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https://www.xda-developers.com/nova-launcher-prime-discount/
By Pranob Mehrotra: Nova Launcher is undoubtedly one of the best third-party launchers for Android out there. It offers a bunch of customization features to help you personalize your device, including options to change the app icon style, home screen layout, app drawer, and much more. In addition, the paid version of the app gives you access to even more customization features that let you set up custom gestures to execute various commands, create custom tabs and folders in the app drawer, hide unused apps from the app drawer, set up custom icon swipe gestures, and so much more.
I’ve been using Nova Launcher on all my devices for a little over six years and I absolutely love it. While the free version is great for most people, I highly recommend getting the paid version because it offers so much more. The ability to set up custom gestures is what led me to switch to the paid version back in 2017, and I’m quite pleased with the purchase.
If you’ve been on the fence about spending $4.99 on Nova Launcher Prime, I’ve got some good news. The app is currently available at a discounted price of just $0.99 on the Play Store and you should get it right away if you haven’t already. Indian users can grab Nova Launcher Prime for just ₹10 (~$0.13) right now, which is a terrific price for an app that has so much to offer. Click on the Play Store link below and purchase the app before the deal expires.
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Too bad I bought it years ago full price lol
spart0n said:
Too bad I bought it years ago full price lol
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I bought mine so long ago, I have no idea what I paid for it, LOL!
I remember utilizing that Christmas special price years back.
roirraW edor ehT said:
I bought mine so long ago, I have no idea what I paid for it, LOL!
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Exactly, lol.
I think .99 is what I paid ion's ago during the holidays!
Happy Holidays XDA members!
Merry xmas lads
Thanks, considering this! I am rocking the free Nova now, and may upgrade to this Prime!
I guess this is a "lifetime" option and can be used for future upgrades on a single phone/user account.
Got it for 25 cents many years ago and still using it today!
banshee28 said:
Thanks, considering this! I am rocking the free Nova now, and may upgrade to this Prime!
I guess this is a "lifetime" option and can be used for future upgrades on a single phone/user account.
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Yep, Nova purchase only has a lifetime option. I bought it at least 7-8 years ago, and maybe longer. Who knows what version # was the current one at the time. I'm actually signed up for the Beta channel. It's stayed updated and paid all these years without any further effort from me. I used to use another app by the same developer too, WidgetLocker or something like that, but that was when Android was truly reasonably primitive on Android Eclair. I was using Nova free before that. These days Nova definitely employs the automatic Google backup method, but I still make manual backups from the app as sometimes the automatic backup isn't the most up-to-date. I do a manual backup every time I change things, and I back them up directly to a Google Drive folder.
Christmas present for me, just purchased!
I bought it for the regular price back in the day now my go-to is Microsoft launcher