The article below came up today explaining how T-Mobile network improvements will make it possible for canadian iPhone users to not only have to rely on AT&T when roaming in the US.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/03/26/f...e-how-t-mobiles-lte-network-affects-canadians
Looking at the specs of our i747(m) from this link below, the device supports the following bands :
2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G - HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
Now, where does AWS stand in all of this and if a carrier rolls out a non-AWS LTE network, what other standards/protocols are available ?
What about UMTS?
Moreover, why are our phones called "pentaband phones" when, from the list above, the phone actually support 9 bands ( 4 2G bands + 3 3G bands + 2 LTE bands = 9 bands total)
Trying to make sense of all this but it just doesn't add up
Thanks in advance
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I'm live in Canada, so yea this is regarding Canadian Purchasing M919(T-Mobile S4).
intro：1. Bell HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
2. Rogers GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
3. Telus HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
4. Virgin HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
5. Koodo HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
6. Wind HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
7. Mobilicity HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
8. Seven-Eleven GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900
M919 T-Mobile Galaxy S4...
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung...mobile-unlocked-white-frost.html#.UYKbUCv07w4
Supports:
GENERAL2G NetworkGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G NetworkHSPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G NetworkLTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
Canadian Carriers, mainly two types.
A - Bell, Rogers, Telus, Virgin, Koodo and etc.
B - Wind and Mobilicity and etc.
2G Same for A and B.
3G/H+ 850/1900 for A and 1700/2100 for B
4G/LTE 1700/2100/2600 for A and N/a for B
M919 seems perfect for Canadian users..
ps. Seems M919 works perfect for ATT networks as well...
Can anyone confirm about this?
and is T-mobile come with a unlocked bootloader?
If this is true... T-mobile would definitely have more sells (maybe just for the phone...:fingers-crossed
You're right
niceppl said:
I'm live in Canada, so yea this is regarding Canadian Purchasing M919(T-Mobile S4).
intro：1. Bell HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
2. Rogers GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
3. Telus HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
4. Virgin HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
5. Koodo HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
6. Wind HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
7. Mobilicity HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
8. Seven-Eleven GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900
M919 T-Mobile Galaxy S4...
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung...mobile-unlocked-white-frost.html#.UYKbUCv07w4
Supports:
GENERAL2G NetworkGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G NetworkHSPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G NetworkLTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
Canadian Carriers, mainly two types.
A - Bell, Rogers, Telus, Virgin, Koodo and etc.
B - Wind and Mobilicity and etc.
2G Same for A and B.
3G/H+ 850/1900 for A and 1700/2100 for B
4G/LTE 1700/2100/2600 for A and N/a for B
M919 seems perfect for Canadian users..
ps. Seems M919 works perfect for ATT networks as well...
Can anyone confirm about this?
and is T-mobile come with a unlocked bootloader?
If this is true... T-mobile would definitely have more sells (maybe just for the phone...:fingers-crossed
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I found this information at Samsung USA website, but I think the Canadian variant (M919V) will be the same. The M919 for T-Mobile has those frequencies:
LTE: Bands 700 / 850 / AWS 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 ; HSPA+/UMTS: 850 / AWS 1700 / 1900 / 2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
The T-Mobile phone will work no problem. I've posted the numbers elsewhere and they all match up.
However, Koodo is selling it for $625 outright and the other companies for $700, so the T-Mobile one is not any cheaper. All Canadian versions have an unlocked bootloader.
Just got to Hong Kong and bought a prepaid sim for my sprint m8. Data and voice is working, but data only seems to be GSM, and not 3g or 4g. Any advice? Thanks.
Find out what carrier you are using with that prepaid sim.
Then see what frequency bands and protocols are used,
then match that up with your phone.
If i had to guess i would say your missing the right frequency bands or you have the right band but not matching up with the right protocol.
i would use GSMarena.com http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)_cdma-6233.php to get the phones band info. Since you know its a Sprint M8 that will tell you what you need to know.
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - Sprint, Verizon
CDMA 800 / 1900 - Sprint, Verizon
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - for Sprint
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for Verizon
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - for Sprint, Verizon
4G Network LTE 800 / 1900 / 2600 - Sprint
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2300 / 2600 - Verizon
I'm looking to buy a HTC One M8 T-Mobile version, and unlocking it.
I read on gsmarena.com that the frequencies that work on that phone are these.
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE band 4(1700/2100), 17(700) - T-Mobile
Now the frequencies in my country are
HSDPA 850 / 900/ 2100
LTE band 4 1800
If I unlock the phone will it be open from my LTE frequency in my country, and the 900Mhz 3g in my country,
or are the phones made for T-Mobile only work with those frequencies no matter if you unlock it or not.
Thanks in advance for all answers!
dav_sap said:
I'm looking to buy a HTC One M8 T-Mobile version, and unlocking it.
I read on gsmarena.com that the frequencies that work on that phone are these.
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE band 4(1700/2100), 17(700) - T-Mobile
Now the frequencies in my country are
HSDPA 850 / 900/ 2100
LTE band 4 1800
If I unlock the phone will it be open from my LTE frequency in my country, and the 900Mhz 3g in my country,
or are the phones made for T-Mobile only work with those frequencies no matter if you unlock it or not.
Thanks in advance for all answers!
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Unlocking it will not add or remove any of the phones frequency or protocol items.
Unlocking merely allows the device to use another sim card from a carrier that it was not branded for.
So if its a TMO branded unit and you unlock it you get all the features that TMO asked HTC to make the unit for them for, but you can use it with your carrier.
i m wondering that does out beloved phone(SGH-t989) supports 4G.
i know i should search web before posting here but trust me i surfed alot for the clarification.
i'm posting question because when i was using stock rom the logo says(displays) 4G symbol and now this day when i put my 4G sim in slot i do not get network. on top it, my friend said, in cyanogenmod 4g is not supported so i want to know that is really our phone supports 4G or that cyanogenmod don't let me go into 4G world ?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_t989-4129.php
Technology
GSM / HSPA
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps
GPRS Class 12
EDGE Class 12
nope. HSPA+ is technically a form of "4G", but not the most current LTE (which, i assume, youre referring to)
youdoofus said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_t989-4129.php
Technology
GSM / HSPA
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps
GPRS Class 12
EDGE Class 12
nope. HSPA+ is technically a form of "4G", but not the most current LTE (which, i assume, youre referring to)
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Thanks for your reply.
yes, hercules supports only HSPA+ but not the LTE.
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
shanekm said:
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
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Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Working perfect for me here in Europe.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
shanekm said:
Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
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I answered this question earlier in your other post. Remember I own this phone on tmobile.
No one uses band 66 or 71 from what i've seen anywhere.
Tmobile uses band 4, 2 in some areas, or 12. At least from what I've seen.
You're overanalyzing things now.
I've tested the bands in the service menu.
Why don't you call t-mobile and ask them if they use a strange band like 66 in your area? I've never heard of that before.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does the LMG710EAW really support both bands 7 and 20? My research turned up that it supported band 7 (2600mhz) but not band 20 (800 mhz) or is this just due to them only listings bands from that region?
I ordered one without maybe doing my due diligence and Vodafone UK for 4G is bands 7 and 20
I have both LMG710EAW and LMG710ULM in hands, LMG710EAW doesn't seem to support B20, as in the parking area I get 4G on ULM but not with EAW.
But it's strange as today I had a look on the original packing of ULM, it's written with B20 support???
Also from LG site, FDD 4G Networks, without B20: 2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
https://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-LMG710EAW-128GB