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Apologies for the very simple question, but I've yet to find a definitive yes/no answer on this.
I'm interested in:
- unlocking the bootloader
- rooting my nexus
With a view to install root-enabled apps like Titanium etc.
I DO NOT want to install any custom ROM (at least for the time being!) as I am happy with stock ICS 4.0.4
If I do the above (unlock & root) - will I still be notified about and be able to install OTA updates from Google?
(I'm on yakju)
Cheers
brypie said:
Apologies for the very simple question, but I've yet to find a definitive yes/no answer on this.
I'm interested in:
- unlocking the bootloader
- rooting my nexus
With a view to install root-enabled apps like Titanium etc.
I DO NOT want to install any custom ROM (at least for the time being!) as I am happy with stock ICS 4.0.4
If I do the above (unlock & root) - will I still be notified about and be able to install OTA updates from Google?
(I'm on yakju)
Cheers
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you will be notified and assuming you still have the stock recovery and not CWM and do not modify any system files, you can install it.
is method given by Jubakuba the only way to root Galaxy Nexus??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
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Yes.
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Really though...it's the best way.
If you want to use other methods *cough* toolkits *cough* they'll probably work.
But if you end up soft bricking your phone at some point (Trust me. You will.) You'll want the tools in place (and know that they're working and how to use them) to get you unstuck.
gagan007 said:
is method given by Jubakuba the only way to root Galaxy Nexus??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
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Not the only but the safest and the proper way and the learning way
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
Zepius said:
you will be notified and assuming you still have the stock recovery and not CWM and do not modify any system files, you can install it.
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Thanks.
So, I assume form your answer that unlocking and rooting does not modify the system files enough to break ota?
brypie said:
Thanks.
So, I assume form your answer that unlocking and rooting does not modify the system files enough to break ota?
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unlock: no
root: no
the problem is, most root methods flash clockwork recovery. this does break OTA.
Jubakuba said:
<lie>
Yes.
</lie>
Really though...it's the best way.
If you want to use other methods *cough* toolkits *cough* they'll probably work.
But if you end up soft bricking your phone at some point (Trust me. You will.) You'll want the tools in place (and know that they're working and how to use them) to get you unstuck.
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Hi.
I'll read through your guide - looks good.
However, you seem to imply that to get root, I have to install a custom recovery??
Is there a separate step to simply install root using the default recovery?
Easiest method...
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakju
You can (and should) download the factory images.
From there...unzip the .tar and the .zip inside of it.
The .zip contains a recovery.img
Flash that using my guide...post 3, I believe...detailing alternative (in this case, stock) recoveries after rooting.
brypie said:
Thanks.
So, I assume form your answer that unlocking and rooting does not modify the system files enough to break ota?
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To expand on what Zepius said:
1) unlocking does not modify any system files at all.
2) "rooting" just means place two files on your system partition. Nothing more. As long as you don't modify or delete files already there, you can add whatever files you want.
brypie said:
Hi.
I'll read through your guide - looks good.
However, you seem to imply that to get root, I have to install a custom recovery??
Is there a separate step to simply install root using the default recovery?
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You do not need to install a custom recovery to root. Booting a custom recovery allows you to do the same thing. In Jubakuba's guide, replace
fastboot flash recovery <name-of-recovery.img>
with
fastboot boot <name-of-recovery.img>
and it will temporarily boot the custom recovery from your PC.
Hello everyone,
I'm a bit lost, I have absolutely no Idea how I was able to use CWM recovery on my S3, but it seems that I don't have it on my Note 2 even tho I rooted my phone, can someone tell me how to add CWM recovery on my Note 2, because I want to try a custom rom
thanks
supramon said:
Hello everyone,
I'm a bit lost, I have absolutely no Idea how I was able to use CWM recovery on my S3, but it seems that I don't have it on my Note 2 even tho I rooted my phone, can someone tell me how to add CWM recovery on my Note 2, because I want to try a custom rom
thanks
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Use CF-root, clean and simple solution, and after it you can flash it via mobile odin.
No need to go via Cf root, directly flash chenglu's recovery it will give root + CWM
read first line on my signature 2nd post second method.
So my sister has an Attt Galaxy note 2. I want to format her phone and install aokp or cyanogenmod on it cause they are smoother and faster roms. I searched on how to unlock and root the Galaxy note 2 but i've only found a bunch of guides showing how to root the phone, i haven't found one telling how to unlock the bootloader?
does anyone know how to unlock the GN2 bootloader, or is it already unlocked?
jinjin12 said:
So my sister has an Attt Galaxy note 2. I want to format her phone and install aokp or cyanogenmod on it cause they are smoother and faster roms. I searched on how to unlock and root the Galaxy note 2 but i've only found a bunch of guides showing how to root the phone, i haven't found one telling how to unlock the bootloader?
does anyone know how to unlock the GN2 bootloader, or is it already unlocked?
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Surprise no one has answered. You can't, and you don't need to.
What firmware is the phone on now?
dicksteele said:
Surprise no one has answered. You can't, and you don't need to.
What firmware is the phone on now?
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what do you mean you can't? Are samsung phones different somehow? I can unlock bootloader on my Nexus 4, my bro's Moto g, and my other Bro's Lg Optimus G, so why can't i unlock bootloader on Samsung Galaxy note 2?
i've never used a samsung phone before so i'm not sure if they differ somehow.
So i don't need to unlock bootloader to install aokp or cyangamod? i only need to root and install custom recovery? I think her phone is on android 4.1.2 or 4.2 i forgot which one.
jinjin12 said:
what do you mean you can't? Are samsung phones different somehow? I can unlock bootloader on my Nexus 4, my bro's Moto g, and my other Bro's Lg Optimus G, so why can't i unlock bootloader on Samsung Galaxy note 2?
i've never used a samsung phone before so i'm not sure if they differ somehow.
So i don't need to unlock bootloader to install aokp or cyangamod? i only need to root and install custom recovery? I think her phone is on android 4.1.2 or 4.2 i forgot which one.
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Samsung does not consider your phone yours as these other manufacturers.
If she has not done the most recent Over the Air update to 4.3, it's probably on 4.1.2. The latest OTA installs Knox security. You dont want that.
There are some good choices in the http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2-att/development
You don't need to root either. If you do install, it will get overwritten since it's installed in the /system directory. ROMs replace the /system directory.
Just install custom recovery, follow ROMs install instructions. Verify with the thread OP if it requires the 4.3 leaked bootloader.
Located here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502464
Oh and Samsung has help from AT&T
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
dicksteele said:
Samsung does not consider your phone yours as these other manufacturers.
If she has not done the most recent Over the Air update to 4.3, it's probably on 4.1.2. The latest OTA installs Knox security. You dont want that.
There are some good choices in the http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-2-att/development
You don't need to root either. If you do install, it will get overwritten since it's installed in the /system directory. ROMs replace the /system directory.
Just install custom recovery, follow ROMs install instructions. Verify with the thread OP if it requires the 4.3 leaked bootloader.
Located here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502464
Oh and Samsung has help from AT&T
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
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I really appreciate the help . i posted on android central and this forum but no help until you posted so thanks. I guess samsung phones are different. I was also told that you only need to back up EFS files on samsungs phones only and NOT on Nexus 4, or Moto G right?
Also, you said you can just install custom recovery but don't you need to root phone to do that? and the most roms like aokp comes rooted by default right?
jinjin12 said:
I really appreciate the help . i posted on android central and this forum but no help until you posted so thanks. I guess samsung phones are different. I was also told that you only need to back up EFS files on samsungs phones only and NOT on Nexus 4, or Moto G right?
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But of course.
EFS holds IMEI info, carrier info, a backup is definitely a good idea. You never know when an OH SH*T will pop up.
Here's some info. OH SH*T examples too.
http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-ba...imei-on-samsung-galaxy-devices-did-you-do-it/
Here's a couple to try.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.boris.efsbackup&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/tool-samsung-tool-1-0-t2602325
And always back up your external sdcard to PC.
Top 5 OH SH*T's, accidentally formatted external sdcard. Helpful when upgrading to a bigger sdcard, also.
I just put in a 64MB samsung card. Fricking screams.
Good luck
dicksteele said:
But of course.
EFS holds IMEI info, carrier info, a backup is definitely a good idea. You never know when an OH SH*T will pop up.
Here's some info. OH SH*T examples too.
http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-ba...imei-on-samsung-galaxy-devices-did-you-do-it/
Here's a couple to try.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.boris.efsbackup&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/tool-samsung-tool-1-0-t2602325
And always back up your external sdcard to PC.
Top 5 OH SH*T's, accidentally formatted external sdcard. Helpful when upgrading to a bigger sdcard, also.
I just put in a 64MB samsung card. Fricking screams.
Good luck
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Also, you said you can just install custom recovery but don't you need to root phone to do that? and the most roms like aokp comes rooted by default right? Odin roots the phone? i saw a guide by technobuffalo and the dude used odin to root the phone before installing TWRP
jinjin12 said:
Also, you said you can just install custom recovery but don't you need to root phone to do that? and the most roms like aokp comes rooted by default right? Odin roots the phone? i saw a guide by technobuffalo and the dude used odin to root the phone before installing TWRP
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Sorry, started replying back last night and got sidetracked.
Yes no need to root, pre-custom recovery. They are totally different. Root (superuser) is a file and app.
Custom recovery replaces the phones built-in Android recovery.Two "versions" TWRP and Clockworkmod. Both work well. Some ROM installs will suggest using a certain one.
ODIN will root the phone.
That file is here.
http://download.chainfire.eu/280/CF...t-t0lteatt-samsungsghi317.zip?retrieve_file=1
Most ROMs do have root incorporated.
dicksteele said:
Sorry, started replying back last night and got sidetracked.
Yes no need to root, pre-custom recovery. They are totally different. Root (superuser) is a file and app.
Custom recovery replaces the phones built-in Android recovery.Two "versions" TWRP and Clockworkmod. Both work well. Some ROM installs will suggest using a certain one.
ODIN will root the phone.
That file is here.
http://download.chainfire.eu/280/CF...t-t0lteatt-samsungsghi317.zip?retrieve_file=1
Most ROMs do have root incorporated.
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odin can also flash roms and install custom recovery images right? i can just flash roms and recoveries using adb on the GN2 to flash roms also?
The technobufallo guide kind of made no sense since the guy used odin to root the phone, then used odin to flash custom recovery, then used it to flash cyanogenmod, which is pointless since like you say above, custom roms comes with root preloaded.
also my sister asked att to unlock her phone and now she's using tmobile with the phone. Would flashing any roms also lock the phone and prevent using tmobile sim?
jinjin12 said:
odin can also flash roms and install custom recovery images right? i can just flash roms and recoveries using adb on the GN2 to flash roms also?
The technobufallo guide kind of made no sense since the guy used odin to root the phone, then used odin to flash custom recovery, then used it to flash cyanogenmod, which is pointless since like you say above, custom roms comes with root preloaded.
also my sister asked att to unlock her phone and now she's using tmobile with the phone. Would flashing any roms also lock the phone and prevent using tmobile sim?
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Yes. that does not make sense. So stop reading that guide.
You will need to flash a custom recovery. I'm detailing a TeamWin Recovery Project (TWRP) install
Here is an explanation of TWRP and how to use it.
http://www.addictivetips.com/android/what-is-twrp-how-to-install-use-it-on-android-devices-guide/
by Haroon Q Raja
Here are other ways to install a custom recovery on your Android phone
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-a-custom-recovery-to-an-android-phone-device/
Also by Haroon Q Raja
INSTALLING TWRP 2.6.3.1
Download
http://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery/t0lteatt/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-t0lteatt.img.tar
- Run Odin3 v3.07.exe
Download Link http://www.mediafire.com/download/772dlmuaxfgm0x2/Odin307.zip
- Put your Note 2 in Download Mode
Entering download mode is very simple. First you will need to turn off your device. Once it’s off, you need to press this button combination: volume down, power button and home button. Keep them pressed until the download mode shows up. Once you’re there, you will be required to press volume up to enter the download mode or volume down to cancel and reboot the device.
Plug into a RELIABLE usb port and a RELIABLE usb cable (preferably the white Samsung cable) and wait for it to show up in Odin (COM5 or something like that)
- Click the PDA slot in Odin and locate the openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-t0lteatt.img.tar that you downloaded.
The filename that goes into the PDA Slot is openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-t0lteatt.img.tar
MAKE SURE IN THE OPTION AREA ONLY AUTO REBOOT AND F.RESET TIME ARE CHECKED!!!
- Click START and wait. It will complete and reboot.
Just install this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568537
It's multicarrier so TMO is supported. It's rooted already.
Right above the Vipers Audio banner, on the left is a click here to show content. It lists all the features. I don;t think she's going to need more than this ROM right now.
dicksteele said:
Yes. that does not make sense. So stop reading that guide.
You will need to flash a custom recovery. I'm detailing a TeamWin Recovery Project (TWRP) install
Here is an explanation of TWRP and how to use it.
http://www.addictivetips.com/android/what-is-twrp-how-to-install-use-it-on-android-devices-guide/
by Haroon Q Raja
Here are other ways to install a custom recovery on your Android phone
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-a-custom-recovery-to-an-android-phone-device/
Also by Haroon Q Raja
INSTALLING TWRP 2.6.3.1
Download
http://goo.im/devs/OpenRecovery/t0lteatt/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-t0lteatt.img.tar
- Run Odin3 v3.07.exe
Download Link http://www.mediafire.com/download/772dlmuaxfgm0x2/Odin307.zip
- Put your Note 2 in Download Mode
Entering download mode is very simple. First you will need to turn off your device. Once it’s off, you need to press this button combination: volume down, power button and home button. Keep them pressed until the download mode shows up. Once you’re there, you will be required to press volume up to enter the download mode or volume down to cancel and reboot the device.
Plug into a RELIABLE usb port and a RELIABLE usb cable (preferably the white Samsung cable) and wait for it to show up in Odin (COM5 or something like that)
- Click the PDA slot in Odin and locate the openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-t0lteatt.img.tar that you downloaded.
The filename that goes into the PDA Slot is openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.1-t0lteatt.img.tar
MAKE SURE IN THE OPTION AREA ONLY AUTO REBOOT AND F.RESET TIME ARE CHECKED!!!
- Click START and wait. It will complete and reboot.
Just install this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568537
It's multicarrier so TMO is supported. It's rooted already.
Right above the Vipers Audio banner, on the left is a click here to show content. It lists all the features. I don;t think she's going to need more than this ROM right now.
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OK thanks alot man and thanks for taking the time to write all of that to help me :victory:
I was going to install aokp or cyanogenmod since she' been complaining about her phone being slow and stock touchwiz 4.1.2 is already reptty slow in itself. BUt she said she wanted to use s-pen features and especially multi window for her work, so those aokp and cyan roms were out of the the question. I still think if she wants speed, she needs aokp or cyanogenmod though, but i guess a lot of people those the touchwiz features
jinjin12 said:
OK thanks alot man and thanks for taking the time to write all of that to help me :victory:
I was going to install aokp or cyanogenmod since she' been complaining about her phone being slow and stock touchwiz 4.1.2 is already reptty slow in itself. BUt she said she wanted to use s-pen features and especially multi window for her work, so those aokp and cyan roms were out of the the question. I still think if she wants speed, she needs aokp or cyanogenmod though, but i guess a lot of people those the touchwiz features
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No prob. That's why I pointed you to the Jedi Master X. It'll work on T Mobile, It has the speed. Check out the builder, ptmr3, stats. Fricking insane.
20000+ thanks, 8000+ posts.
So far I've had only Samsung phones, which were rooted by flashing a zip file through the built-in recovery (containing signed SuperSU).
Now I have a 2013 Nexus 7 and I'm looking at the rooting guides and I see bootloader unlocking, flashing custom recoveries and a lot of other things which personally confuse the hell out of me as to why are they needed.
So I wanted to ask if there is a way to just flash a zip file with the SuperSU (and buzybox) app like how it's done on the Samsung phones? Or if there is a method that doesn't require replacing the stock recovery / flashing ROM components?
If anything its easier than any Samsung device but the thing is don't Root if it confuses you at least until you understand how to do it there is tons of guides online
spinninbsod said:
If anything its easier than any Samsung device but the thing is don't Root if it confuses you at least until you understand how to do it there is tons of guides online
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That's kind'a my question, it's not that I don't know how, I just don't get if all the side-stuff in 90% of the guides is actually needed, so I asked if there is a way to just get SuperSU working without any custom-recoveries or other side-things.
To my knowledge, you need to have a custom recovery to root it. Unlocking the bootloader helps with this, as it ensures recovery and root sticks.
Or, just use the Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit to unlock and root.
CrisR82 said:
That's kind'a my question, it's not that I don't know how, I just don't get if all the side-stuff in 90% of the guides is actually needed, so I asked if there is a way to just get SuperSU working without any custom-recoveries or other side-things.
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I was in the exact same position as you four days ago, up until then the only android devices I had owned were the Samsung Galaxy S2 and S4. It is quite different to the rooting process on the samsung devices but just as you did with the Samsung devices you will learn as you go along. My bootloader is unlocked, rooted with a custom rom and it was pretty easy to do
CrisR82 said:
That's kind'a my question, it's not that I don't know how, I just don't get if all the side-stuff in 90% of the guides is actually needed, so I asked if there is a way to just get SuperSU working without any custom-recoveries or other side-things.
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A sideload would only be needed if you didn't dump SuperSU on the phone first.
Unlock bootloader
Flash TWRP
Flash SuperSU
Done
Get wugfresh's nexus root toolkit. It's made for the novice in all of us.... Works great, self updates, awesome help section.. Look into it.. It's made specifically for the nexus line of products
Thanks for the replies guys, but noone seems to say what is the minimum that neds to be done for rooting.
I'll re-ask my question in a different way:
When rooting, does the bootloader always have to be unlocked and a custom recovery always needed to be installed?
CrisR82 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, but noone seems to say what is the minimum that neds to be done for rooting.
I'll re-ask my question in a different way:
When rooting, does the bootloader always have to be unlocked and a custom recovery always needed to be installed?
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Bootloader needs to be be unlocked, but can be relocked after rooting
AFAIK, you can use stock recovery, but custom offers better options/control over the situation. Most roms/kernels are flashed via twrp or cwm..... You can flash through rom toolbox if you choose to stay stock recovery
You can use Towel root to root your tablet in about 30 seconds. It'll also unlock your bootloader for you.
Cousin recovery is only needed of you intend to flash kernels and Roms and the like. If, like me, you only want root for installing things like xposed then you don't need to bother with one.
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CrisR82 said:
Thanks for the replies guys, but noone seems to say what is the minimum that neds to be done for rooting.
I'll re-ask my question in a different way:
When rooting, does the bootloader always have to be unlocked and a custom recovery always needed to be installed?
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Yes, all the steps that are listed are required for rooting your Nexus. I understand what you are asking and I was also hesitant at first, but it was super easy to root and I didnt use the WugFresh took kit I manually rooted mine, following Zedomaxs Video tutorial, that way I could stop and Pause it at every step to make sure things were happening as they should here is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1cD-JXRGX8
I confirm towelroot works on the 2013 nexus 7. After rooting unlock bootloader with app from google play. This method does not wipe user data or need a computer at all. And if root is lost and the towelroot exploit is patched with the next os update you can reroot the old way.
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So I know... Maybe I'm daft... but I cannot figure out how to root and install TWRP. I can get root. no prob but when I install TWRP I lose root...
I cannot seem to find clear directions on how to do both root & install TWRP.
I been around a while now and have been rooting my phones since Galaxy S3 but was out for a few years due to the U variants and now it seems I have lost something.
What am I missing? are thee any directions or links someone can share with me that provides a procedure on how to both root and install custom recovery?