480p is nominally 640x480 (4:3), but if you look on Youtube, for example, you're not going to find many 480p videos that aren't 16:9, meaning 854x480 (Wikipedia lists that as a valid 480p resolution among several).
Is there a way to either change what 480p is in the camera menu or add a 480p (16:9) selection?
The other resolutions, 720p and 1080p, are 16:9, of course, but I don't always want to squander that much space when the quality isn't needed.
The answer to your question would be no. All of your video would be either sqaushed or stretched.
720 & 1080 are native 16:9 formats. They can be down converted to fit 4:3 and if it was filmed properly it will still look good because the camera man protected 4:3 boundaries while shooting 16:9.
If youve ever seen a 16:9 movie on an old 4:3 tv you will notice that its letter boxed and down converted to fit the screen.
Most consumer and prosumer cameras are 16:9 by default now because all of the displays on the market can show that content properly.
I don't follow your first sentence. I can understand the phone simply not being capable of doing it (I'm still hoping that's not the case, since 3rd-party ROMs often can do wonders), but if it could, then I don't see what the problem would be recording 16:9 480p (854x480). I would even think that it would be more popular than 4:3 480p.
Also, I have to think that 16:9 480p is quite common, since how else can so many 480p videos on Youtube be 16:9 (and these are often videos that top out at 480p, so they're not down-converted from something higher)? Phones are by far the most common video recorders, yet I can't recall the last time I saw vertical black bars on Youtube (what you get with 640x480).
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Recorded a video last night and uploaded it to Youtube but Im not impressed with the quality.
Checking the settings its set to 640x480 (VGA) but the video is awfully blocky. I was under the impression that VGA recording on the TP2 was rather good.
Am I expecting too much from the device or is there something amiss here?
Does noone have any input on this? Is the linked video what I should expect from TP2 video footage?
What settings did you use?
I use Resolution L (320x240) and Capture Format MPEG4
Comes out fine for me.
Capture Format: MPEG4
Resolution: VGA (640x480)
Its blocky both on the Youtube conversion and on the phone itself.
Could it simply be a result of poor recording venue?
If there is low light this will make a difference. But test and see. Try the slightly lower resolution (because then it can cope with better compression and may be less blocky). Would be interested if anyone else has different settings. Cheers.
After much experimentation, I have found that the epic prefers 5:3 aspect ratio. If you want the maximum in clarity and optimized file size for your videos, here are the settings I came up with. Adding more to either bitrate wont help the quality.
Customized MP4 Movie (*.mp4) template in Freemake
Video Code: MPEG4 (NOT h.264 or x264)
Frame Size: 1000x600 (5:3 ratio)
Video Bitrate: 1280
Video framerate: 24
Encode Passes: 2
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Bitrate: 160
Sample rate: 44100
Audio Channels: 2
Disable Audio: No
A/V Sync: Default
These settings work great on my Arnova 10b (Capacitive) and my Touchpad. They would also work great in an iPad or XBOX. I used the high resolution to fill the screen of my Arnova without stretching. It works fine on my Epic.
Here the question: Why 5:3? Any other aspect ratio does not actually fill the screen. If you make a 800x600 (4:3) video, you will find that the player does not actually fill the screen. Thoughts?
The screen resolution is 800x480, which is 5:3...
Just make the video 800x480, and it won't have to do any scaling.
Interesting. Gonna check my videos and see what res I have them in, because they look awesome as it is.
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The screen resolution is 800x480, which is 5:3...
Just make the video 800x480, and it won't have to do any scaling.
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I did that resolution... It worked great for my epic.. I settled on the resolution I used because it worked awesome on all my devices.. even my touchpad. The cost in file size is almost nothing between the two resolutions.
Ok, I have a 720p video.. it looks amazing at its normal resolution of 1280x720.. no cropping that I can notice..
I'm an editor by trade.
What you're looking for is H.264 in .mp4. I tend to go for a video bitrate that hangs out around 1.5mbps and AAC stereo audio at 160kbps, 44.1kHz. There are quite a few artifacts in the shadows, but for watching a movie on an airplane it'll suffice.
The key to both a sharp picture and long battery life is to properly prepare the video. When your video is under or over 800px wide the Epic has to perform scaling to make it fill the screen (or sacrifice filling the screen if it is under). This scaling is an additional calculation it must perform, which hits the battery, and is a transformation on a lossy codec - a quality killer. If you have the render power (48 i7 cores and segmented processing makes for fast work) you can always hit it with mild sharpening for that extra pop.
Export your video at 800 pixels wide by whatever makes the correct aspect ratio. It's a bit of simple algebra, set up a proportion, cross-multiply, divide, and bang.
ex:
(1280/720)=(800/x)
1280x=720*800
1280x=576,000
x=450
800x450 <-- use this for any 16x9 broadcasts
(1.85/1)=(800/x)
1.85x=800
x=432
800x432 <-- use this for movies presented in 1.85:1, 2.35:1, and 2.40:1.
If it's 4x3 export at 640x480.
I just scale up to 4k. Looks pretty good =D
Lets put ugly black bars on the sides of all your pictures while giving you gorgeous 1080 video capture.. Okay seriously, any chance the stock camera apk can be modified to allow widescreen photo capture?
Software...limitations....for...NOW...hopefully Google will bump us up.
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Lets put ugly black bars on the sides of all your pictures while giving you gorgeous 1080 video capture.. Okay seriously, any chance the stock camera apk can be modified to allow widescreen photo capture?
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You mean instead of taking full 5mp photos, you want the camera app to crop the top and bottom of the photo and downscale it to 2mp? Because thats what 1080p is.
When viewing a picture on a Widescreen monitor, an HDTV or our phone's screen for that matter, 16:9 just looks better.
Anyone know if this is on the to do list, or if there is a way to do enable this on the stock camera app?
Surprised the camera doesn't default to 16:9. Most phone cameras haven't used 4:3 in a long time.
zoom in on the photo if you're bothered, I'd rather have full resolution and make full use of the 4:3 chip inside than having some cropped off.
It's as bad as the people who moan when DVDs, Blu-rays and film channels (at least here in the UK) show films properly which means there's black bars at the top and the bottom, I'd rather see the whole thing that have some edges chopped off!
Whats also interesting is if you take a picture while recording a video in 1080p or 720p for that matter, then those shots are in widescreen.
Forget which quality is better for a second and think about the fact that this will lead to having different aspect ratios for some of your pictures since theres no way to force is on the Camera shots.
I dont know whether the quality is better with widescreen or not (it sounds like not) but I think we can all agree we'd rather have the option to turn it on or off.
Hopefully it comes in an upgrade or MOD at some point.
Has anyone tried using Vignette?
Yes, Vignette seems to work well on ICS. That said, I haven't found a way to make it shoot 16:9 stills. However, it looks like Camera360 Ultimate might -- and for whatever reason, it is free in the Market as I type this.
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Yes, Vignette seems to work well on ICS. That said, I haven't found a way to make it shoot 16:9 stills. However, it looks like Camera360 Ultimate might -- and for whatever reason, it is free in the Market as I type this.
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Yeah guys, VIGNETTE works well on SGN, you ca adjust aspect ratio to 16:9.
I have just purchased this and need to try how is the quality now...
but at least it works in wide screen mode, even though the effect is more or less a zomed in pictures, but the app can save simultaneously the original 4:3 photo as well. . It would be better to have a native 16:9 camera..
cheers
thomas
dindindores said:
Yeah guys, VIGNETTE works well on SGN, you ca adjust aspect ratio to 16:9.
I have just purchased this and need to try how is the quality now...
but at least it works in wide screen mode, even though the effect is more or less a zomed in pictures, but the app can save simultaneously the original 4:3 photo as well. . It would be better to have a native 16:9 camera..
cheers
thomas
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What ROM are you using and what settings in Vignette to get it working? On my SGN it won't even refocus, it crashes as soon as I touch the screen and I get this message:
VIE encountered an error.
Runtime error: java.lang.
UnsupportedOperationException
I sent the dev an email ages ago but haven't received a response.
I've tried rebooting, un-installing, re-installing, full wipe, turning force GPU rendering both on and off and nothing seems to work :,(
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Most camera-chips and camera's are 4:3, including on high-end DSLRs.
If you want it to have a widescreen look, either zoom in or just crop it. It's not that hard.
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Most camera-chips and camera's are 4:3, including on high-end DSLRs.
If you want it to have a widescreen look, either zoom in or just crop it. It's not that hard.
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Yeah, and this is limitation for capturing normal widescreen photos. For example, my previous xperia neo has 8M camera and it native sensor has 4:3 (3264*2448) or total ~8 million pixels. But it software camera has 16:9 mode which crop top and bottom lines for 16:9 (3264*1839) or total ~6 million pixels. At the end, our gnex camera has 4:3 (2592*1944) or ~5 million pixels. For cropping this to 16:9 we'll have only 1458 for height. This is totally loss information for such a sensors.
If your such a camera nazi then crop the pics to 16:9. But i agree with the people that say why downgrade quality , im sure if they did you would start a thread on nexus camera not detailed photos
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Most camera-chips and camera's are 4:3, including on high-end DSLRs.
If you want it to have a widescreen look, either zoom in or just crop it. It's not that hard.
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It's actually 3:2. Only Olympus produces 4:3 DSLRs.
Back to the main topic, if you want to capture somewhat widescreen images OP, try Camera ICS.
It doesn't do 16:9 but 3:2, at least. It also offers various improvement.
IceBean said:
It's actually 3:2. Only Olympus produces 4:3 DSLRs.
Back to the main topic, if you want to capture somewhat widescreen images OP, try Camera ICS.
It doesn't do 16:9 but 3:2, at least. It also offers various improvement.
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Is the Nexus's sensor has the aspect ratio 3:2?
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Is the Nexus's sensor has the aspect ratio 3:2?
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No, it's 4:3 but there's a setting in Camera ICS that automatically crops 4:3 images to 3:2.
By doing so, you lost about 0.5mp (from 5.0to 4.5mp) which isn't a big deal.
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And guess what? Camera ICS also supports 16:9 (3.8mp) format.
Camera Mx, 16:9 aspect ratio
Camer JB +
Install Camera JB+ from the app store. It gives the option of Widescreen (16:9) pictures but you have to compromise with MP (3.8MP)
I love,that g4 can take videos at such high resolution.
I dont want to record in a lower resolution, (i know just use another recorder app for that).
I want to record in high resolution, make a copy of video, and then drop the copy resolution so i can have a high ando low resolution.
Reason is because if i try to play videos i recorded on my g4 on my TV, itsays video resolution not supported. Nd its a smart TV ? also when sharing videos to other phones it has came up as "video unsupprted" or "resolution unsuportted"
Any reccomendation for resolution changer?
I tried screenshots in Album; Video; & MX Player Pro using different codecs & 4K videos and all, but all came out in 1080p.
Not sure if it was supposed to be in 4K though.
So, how can we be sure that 4K content is being correctly?
Thanks.
The screen is 1080p by default, so if you take a screenshot, it will be a 1080p image displayed.
If there are sufficent pixels to push either in image or video format however, the device will push them up to 4K.
For example, if you find an image or video with at least 3840 × 2160 pixels, it will be shown in that resolution. View them via the Album, or Video apps (I'm not sure about third party apps).
If you do a Google image search for 4K wallpapers, you can try...
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
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Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
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Android 5.1 Lollipop DOES NOT support 4K natively. The system can't therefore produce 4K screenshots, and thus 1080p. The reason why it's not 2k res on the screenshots like Galaxy Note 5 is because Sony chose that the system should run on 1080p and not 2K.
slayerz said:
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
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Doh!
That's the problem. You are taking a screenshot in 4K mode... the screenshot is not taken in 4K resolution however, it is a 1080 screenshot, so it will obviously show as 1080.
You just have to take it on trust that 4K content is screened in 4K. You convert it back to 1080 when you take a screenshot of it though
@KbaB.BroS Thanks, I was reading about that limitation yesterday. Guess I'll need to wait for Android M! @nobnut I'm specially concerned about custom roms breaking the 4K functionality! Can't really trust 'em!
P.S.
I'm running RomAur btw, it's superb, except for some random reboots.
There's a kernel which restores DRM-tied functions as well, for unlocked bootloaders.
Your eyes may not be able to tell the difference. Basically, in album app, when you open an image, it'll be 1080p and after about 1-3 seconds, it'll crossfade into 4K. It's easier to spot with small text and on eyes.
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Your eyes may not be able to tell the difference. Basically, in album app, when you open an image, it'll be 1080p and after about 1-3 seconds, it'll crossfade into 4K. It's easier to spot with small text and on eyes.
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@CLShortFuse There is no 'crossfade' with Image Enhancements off, at least on my end. Can't be sure if it's because of the switch.
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@CLShortFuse There is no 'crossfade' with Image Enhancements off, at least on my end. Can't be sure if it's because of the switch.
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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. With or without X-Reality, you should see a change. Take a look at the sample photos by Yu Takae. The text on the bottom right should look clearer after a few seconds when 4K kicks in. When you swipe to change picture, it renders are 1080p. After a few seconds you should see things clearer.
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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. With or without X-Reality, you should see a change. Take a look at the sample photos by Yu Takae. The text on the bottom right should look clearer after a few seconds when 4K kicks in. When you swipe to change picture, it renders are 1080p. After a few seconds you should see things clearer.
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I don't think the difference is FHD -> 4K transition, because you can clearly see the text even on a standard 1080p screen. I think the phone loads a light preview (the one used in the gallery?) and after that it loads the full image. It can be for being fast when you scroll pics. I made some tests with my old Z3 and default pictures of the Z5p.
And, btw, if you swipe between pictures it always reload like that. But if I'm in gallery it should be 4K always, no need to change the res.
Not as clear as when it switches to 4K. You don't need a second phone to test, just use another image app like Google Photos.
Take a look at this:
https://youtu.be/kEMmKu4tYWI
Skip to 2minutes in.
The way you know if 4k videos are working is to press play on the 4k video then 'pinch zoom' once and you'll see the quality (you can do this with any videos anyways)
Also the 4k logo in album in the bottom corner means the video is 4k. And the battery will drain more playing a 4k video then a normal 360p 540p 720p and 1080p video (because 4k bit rate is higher - hence more processing)
SocketMix said:
The way you know if 4k videos are working is to press play on the 4k video then 'pinch zoom' once and you'll see the quality (you can do this with any videos anyways)
Also the 4k logo in album in the bottom corner means the video is 4k. And the battery will drain more playing a 4k video then a normal 360p 540p 720p and 1080p video (because 4k bit rate is higher - hence more processing)
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But even in Lollipop is possible to watch videos in 4K?