Recorded a video last night and uploaded it to Youtube but Im not impressed with the quality.
Checking the settings its set to 640x480 (VGA) but the video is awfully blocky. I was under the impression that VGA recording on the TP2 was rather good.
Am I expecting too much from the device or is there something amiss here?
Does noone have any input on this? Is the linked video what I should expect from TP2 video footage?
What settings did you use?
I use Resolution L (320x240) and Capture Format MPEG4
Comes out fine for me.
Capture Format: MPEG4
Resolution: VGA (640x480)
Its blocky both on the Youtube conversion and on the phone itself.
Could it simply be a result of poor recording venue?
If there is low light this will make a difference. But test and see. Try the slightly lower resolution (because then it can cope with better compression and may be less blocky). Would be interested if anyone else has different settings. Cheers.
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I just realised the the TP2 can record VGA (640x480) video. I played with the camera settings and found that if video recording format is set at MPEG4, the resolution can be set at up to VGA quality. If the recording format is set at H264 or H263, the resolution would only goes up to QVGA.
I would have preferred H264 over MP4. But at least I now know that TP2 can record VGA video. Hopefully future updates of the HTC camera app would add H264 VGA recording.
Are there other MSM7200 devices that can do H.264 at 640x480 at any reasonable framerate? I ask because as I understand it, it's pretty processor intensive to compress that amount of data...
Lord_BlackAdder said:
I just realised the the TP2 can record VGA (640x480) video. I played with the camera settings and found that if video recording format is set at MPEG4, the resolution can be set at up to VGA quality. If the recording format is set at H264 or H263, the resolution would only goes up to QVGA.
I would have preferred H264 over MP4. But at least I now know that TP2 can record VGA video. Hopefully future updates of the HTC camera app would add H264 VGA recording.
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so is this only for the msm7200 or also for the 7201a
Lord_BlackAdder how you do it?? explain please step by step, i already try all the settings in video recording and nothing, only the small resolution, no alternatives to change
hello..
i have a sprint touch pro 2.
i used to have the stock sprint wm6.5 rom installed. and it used to take okay-quality videos.
yesterday, i flashed energy rom, and since then, the quality is so bad. i use the same format (mp4 VGA), but the one on the energyrom is bad. a 10 second video on the sprint rom is around 1+mb.. on energyrom, it's only around 200kb. whats wrong with this?
thanks
I know that we can get better quality video recording out of the TP2, with the first WinMo phone shooting WVGA @ 30fps with the exact same hardware (minus cam module), I'm excited to see if someone can work their magic to incorporate better recording from the TP2.
Anyone else?
Cyph
I too am curious about this. I have actually always been curious as to whether the video capabilities are more software dependent or hardware... Though if the phone is capable of displaying the video on the viewfinder at WVGA at 30fps it should theoretically be possible to record at that quality. Anyways, we'll see what crops up later
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solsearch said:
I too am curious about this. I have actually always been curious as to whether the video capabilities are more software dependent or hardware... Though if the phone is capable of displaying the video on the viewfinder at WVGA at 30fps it should theoretically be possible to record at that quality. Anyways, we'll see what crops up later
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Unfortunately the above statement is not at all true. Recording depends heavily on the camera hardware in terms of possible frame rate at a given resolution. Furthermore real-time compression and encoding is a significantly different proposition to the CPU than decoding and playback. This is not to say the TP2 hardware may not be capable of doing better than it does, just that playback capabilities are no indication.
Dennis
Like I said, I don't know how much the camera module affects it. And what I meant by theoretically is that if it can display that on the viewfinder at that res then theoretically it could be recorded in raw format (as long as the transfer to the memory could handle the speed), but it would not be practical by any means. But if the x2 is capable of it and IF the ONLY difference is the camera module, and IF the camera module is just the sensor and no graphics processing then it could possibly happen. And I'd love to see it. But neither am I going to hold my breath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OEIZvXqzxs
You see minutes 4:29 ..... But WVGA recording resolution is 720x480? or 800x480?
Thanks
The Xperia X2 has the same CPU as the Rhodium and in theory the video recording abilities can therefore be ported. The drivers for video recording must be extracted and put into the Rhodium ROM.
Even if the Rhodium camera or drivers doesn´t handle WVGA widescreen recording it´s possible with some development work to use better encoding drivers - i.e record VGA but let a good MP4 encoder with good quality do the encoding job (i.e replace the original HTC video encoder with a better one).
In this case the original HTC camera application is retained but with replaced encoders. The user only sees a quality difference - the handling of the camera app is the same otherwise.
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The Xperia X2 has the same CPU as the Rhodium and in theory the video recording abilities can therefore be ported. The drivers for video recording must be extracted and put into the Rhodium ROM.
Even if the Rhodium camera or drivers doesn´t handle WVGA widescreen recording it´s possible with some development work to use better encoding drivers - i.e record VGA but let a good MP4 encoder with good quality do the encoding job (i.e replace the original HTC video encoder with a better one).
In this case the original HTC camera application is retained but with replaced encoders. The user only sees a quality difference - the handling of the camera app is the same otherwise.
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That's definitely be a good thing. Maybe it could even up the fps a little bit.
The Xperia X2 has the same CPU as the Rhodium and in theory the video recording abilities can therefore be ported. The drivers for video recording must be extracted and put into the Rhodium ROM.
Even if the Rhodium camera or drivers doesn´t handle WVGA widescreen recording it´s possible with some development work to use better encoding drivers - i.e record VGA but let a good MP4 encoder with good quality do the encoding job (i.e replace the original HTC video encoder with a better one).
In this case the original HTC camera application is retained but with replaced encoders. The user only sees a quality difference - the handling of the camera app is the same otherwise.
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Well if we can get someone on that I'd be willing to pay (big - ROM COOKERS LISTENING?? :-D ) for the capability to enhance the video recording capabilities. I just need an additional 10 fps and maybe another 200 kb/s bit rate for excellent video. That would make the video recorder to 30 fps @ ~ 1Mb/s..niiice.
If they can accomplish WVGA or even D1 (720x480) that would be cool too (or better).
I wish I had the skills/tools to do that, I'd be all over it like white on rice! LOL
Cyph
Personally I don't need 30fps (though it'd be nice). I'd be happy with a video standard such as 23.976fps or whatnot. 20 does look stuttery. Just a few more would fix that. Well. Let's hope someone looks into it. Though it might be necessary that we wait until the x2 is actually released
'If you didnt know, AT&T disabled VGA video rec on the Pure, and Tilt2 while other service providers have it enabled. Anyways I think theres a way to get it enabled on the Tilt2 because I got it working on my Pure.
Heres the thread I made: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=729
What I did was I installed "BsbTweaks 1.6" and they have an option that you can enable "hidden camera modes". ONLY ENABLE "hidden camera modes" and make sure you DONT ENABLE "improve MPEG bitrate". If you enabled "improve MPEG bitrate" then Iam afraid its too late, you can turn it back off but you will not be able to record in VGA quality. You will have to hardreset and repeat the process. Anyways after the softreset go into the video camera options and change the format to 3GPP, then you can change resolution to 640x480 VGA.
I do not own a Tilt2 so I don't know if this would work, but because Tilt2 is supposed to have VGA video recording just like the all the other TP2 models, Iam guessing that it should work. It did work for my HTC Pure.
Here are the results:
10 seconds of QVGA MPEG video rec = 400-500kb
10 seconds of VGA 3GPP video rec = 900-1000kb
As you can see, the bitrate has doubled and the quality difference is very noticeable. Please can somebody test this and report back.
BSBTweaks 1.6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
With the Tilt 2 being WVGA (480X800) what would the benefit of this be?
He's talking about video recording resolution, not the screen resolution. VGA is the highest resolution our device can record video.
I have both of those tweaks enabled and I can still select VGA resolution when I also select 3GPP format. I haven't done tests if it actually records in VGA, but that's what it says.
I know there has been much discussion with settings for the camera but I haven't found anything helpful in regards to camcorder settings.
I tried to record part of a concert last night and the video and the sound were horrible. Also tried a few videos in daylight and the results were less than stellar.
1st what is the best resolution? I heard using the 720p compresses the file too much so WVGA, VGA, CIF or QVGA?
2nd what is best encoding type? H.263 or MPEG4?
Flicker adjustment? Auto, 50Hz or 60Hz?
I guess I could play around with the settings for awhile but figured why reinvent the wheel if someone has success with settings they are using.
Any help would be appreciated
After much experimentation, I have found that the epic prefers 5:3 aspect ratio. If you want the maximum in clarity and optimized file size for your videos, here are the settings I came up with. Adding more to either bitrate wont help the quality.
Customized MP4 Movie (*.mp4) template in Freemake
Video Code: MPEG4 (NOT h.264 or x264)
Frame Size: 1000x600 (5:3 ratio)
Video Bitrate: 1280
Video framerate: 24
Encode Passes: 2
Audio Codec: AAC
Audio Bitrate: 160
Sample rate: 44100
Audio Channels: 2
Disable Audio: No
A/V Sync: Default
These settings work great on my Arnova 10b (Capacitive) and my Touchpad. They would also work great in an iPad or XBOX. I used the high resolution to fill the screen of my Arnova without stretching. It works fine on my Epic.
Here the question: Why 5:3? Any other aspect ratio does not actually fill the screen. If you make a 800x600 (4:3) video, you will find that the player does not actually fill the screen. Thoughts?
The screen resolution is 800x480, which is 5:3...
Just make the video 800x480, and it won't have to do any scaling.
Interesting. Gonna check my videos and see what res I have them in, because they look awesome as it is.
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The screen resolution is 800x480, which is 5:3...
Just make the video 800x480, and it won't have to do any scaling.
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I did that resolution... It worked great for my epic.. I settled on the resolution I used because it worked awesome on all my devices.. even my touchpad. The cost in file size is almost nothing between the two resolutions.
Ok, I have a 720p video.. it looks amazing at its normal resolution of 1280x720.. no cropping that I can notice..
I'm an editor by trade.
What you're looking for is H.264 in .mp4. I tend to go for a video bitrate that hangs out around 1.5mbps and AAC stereo audio at 160kbps, 44.1kHz. There are quite a few artifacts in the shadows, but for watching a movie on an airplane it'll suffice.
The key to both a sharp picture and long battery life is to properly prepare the video. When your video is under or over 800px wide the Epic has to perform scaling to make it fill the screen (or sacrifice filling the screen if it is under). This scaling is an additional calculation it must perform, which hits the battery, and is a transformation on a lossy codec - a quality killer. If you have the render power (48 i7 cores and segmented processing makes for fast work) you can always hit it with mild sharpening for that extra pop.
Export your video at 800 pixels wide by whatever makes the correct aspect ratio. It's a bit of simple algebra, set up a proportion, cross-multiply, divide, and bang.
ex:
(1280/720)=(800/x)
1280x=720*800
1280x=576,000
x=450
800x450 <-- use this for any 16x9 broadcasts
(1.85/1)=(800/x)
1.85x=800
x=432
800x432 <-- use this for movies presented in 1.85:1, 2.35:1, and 2.40:1.
If it's 4x3 export at 640x480.
I just scale up to 4k. Looks pretty good =D