I just realised the the TP2 can record VGA (640x480) video. I played with the camera settings and found that if video recording format is set at MPEG4, the resolution can be set at up to VGA quality. If the recording format is set at H264 or H263, the resolution would only goes up to QVGA.
I would have preferred H264 over MP4. But at least I now know that TP2 can record VGA video. Hopefully future updates of the HTC camera app would add H264 VGA recording.
Are there other MSM7200 devices that can do H.264 at 640x480 at any reasonable framerate? I ask because as I understand it, it's pretty processor intensive to compress that amount of data...
Lord_BlackAdder said:
I just realised the the TP2 can record VGA (640x480) video. I played with the camera settings and found that if video recording format is set at MPEG4, the resolution can be set at up to VGA quality. If the recording format is set at H264 or H263, the resolution would only goes up to QVGA.
I would have preferred H264 over MP4. But at least I now know that TP2 can record VGA video. Hopefully future updates of the HTC camera app would add H264 VGA recording.
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so is this only for the msm7200 or also for the 7201a
Lord_BlackAdder how you do it?? explain please step by step, i already try all the settings in video recording and nothing, only the small resolution, no alternatives to change
hello..
i have a sprint touch pro 2.
i used to have the stock sprint wm6.5 rom installed. and it used to take okay-quality videos.
yesterday, i flashed energy rom, and since then, the quality is so bad. i use the same format (mp4 VGA), but the one on the energyrom is bad. a 10 second video on the sprint rom is around 1+mb.. on energyrom, it's only around 200kb. whats wrong with this?
thanks
I know that we can get better quality video recording out of the TP2, with the first WinMo phone shooting WVGA @ 30fps with the exact same hardware (minus cam module), I'm excited to see if someone can work their magic to incorporate better recording from the TP2.
Anyone else?
Cyph
I too am curious about this. I have actually always been curious as to whether the video capabilities are more software dependent or hardware... Though if the phone is capable of displaying the video on the viewfinder at WVGA at 30fps it should theoretically be possible to record at that quality. Anyways, we'll see what crops up later
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solsearch said:
I too am curious about this. I have actually always been curious as to whether the video capabilities are more software dependent or hardware... Though if the phone is capable of displaying the video on the viewfinder at WVGA at 30fps it should theoretically be possible to record at that quality. Anyways, we'll see what crops up later
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Unfortunately the above statement is not at all true. Recording depends heavily on the camera hardware in terms of possible frame rate at a given resolution. Furthermore real-time compression and encoding is a significantly different proposition to the CPU than decoding and playback. This is not to say the TP2 hardware may not be capable of doing better than it does, just that playback capabilities are no indication.
Dennis
Like I said, I don't know how much the camera module affects it. And what I meant by theoretically is that if it can display that on the viewfinder at that res then theoretically it could be recorded in raw format (as long as the transfer to the memory could handle the speed), but it would not be practical by any means. But if the x2 is capable of it and IF the ONLY difference is the camera module, and IF the camera module is just the sensor and no graphics processing then it could possibly happen. And I'd love to see it. But neither am I going to hold my breath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OEIZvXqzxs
You see minutes 4:29 ..... But WVGA recording resolution is 720x480? or 800x480?
Thanks
The Xperia X2 has the same CPU as the Rhodium and in theory the video recording abilities can therefore be ported. The drivers for video recording must be extracted and put into the Rhodium ROM.
Even if the Rhodium camera or drivers doesn´t handle WVGA widescreen recording it´s possible with some development work to use better encoding drivers - i.e record VGA but let a good MP4 encoder with good quality do the encoding job (i.e replace the original HTC video encoder with a better one).
In this case the original HTC camera application is retained but with replaced encoders. The user only sees a quality difference - the handling of the camera app is the same otherwise.
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The Xperia X2 has the same CPU as the Rhodium and in theory the video recording abilities can therefore be ported. The drivers for video recording must be extracted and put into the Rhodium ROM.
Even if the Rhodium camera or drivers doesn´t handle WVGA widescreen recording it´s possible with some development work to use better encoding drivers - i.e record VGA but let a good MP4 encoder with good quality do the encoding job (i.e replace the original HTC video encoder with a better one).
In this case the original HTC camera application is retained but with replaced encoders. The user only sees a quality difference - the handling of the camera app is the same otherwise.
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That's definitely be a good thing. Maybe it could even up the fps a little bit.
The Xperia X2 has the same CPU as the Rhodium and in theory the video recording abilities can therefore be ported. The drivers for video recording must be extracted and put into the Rhodium ROM.
Even if the Rhodium camera or drivers doesn´t handle WVGA widescreen recording it´s possible with some development work to use better encoding drivers - i.e record VGA but let a good MP4 encoder with good quality do the encoding job (i.e replace the original HTC video encoder with a better one).
In this case the original HTC camera application is retained but with replaced encoders. The user only sees a quality difference - the handling of the camera app is the same otherwise.
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Well if we can get someone on that I'd be willing to pay (big - ROM COOKERS LISTENING?? :-D ) for the capability to enhance the video recording capabilities. I just need an additional 10 fps and maybe another 200 kb/s bit rate for excellent video. That would make the video recorder to 30 fps @ ~ 1Mb/s..niiice.
If they can accomplish WVGA or even D1 (720x480) that would be cool too (or better).
I wish I had the skills/tools to do that, I'd be all over it like white on rice! LOL
Cyph
Personally I don't need 30fps (though it'd be nice). I'd be happy with a video standard such as 23.976fps or whatnot. 20 does look stuttery. Just a few more would fix that. Well. Let's hope someone looks into it. Though it might be necessary that we wait until the x2 is actually released
First, as you all known, Touch pro2 can't record VGA video in H.264 format(the resolution is limited to 352x288), it's really a pity. And if you want a VGA res, you just can use a MPEG4 format and finally get a video full of noise and blocks...... After I buy my Touch Pro2, I always try to find a way to enhance the video recording quality. And finally found it!
If you have the software "BsB tweaks" in your ROM, you can see it has such two tweaks：
Video Format--Enable hidden video recording format
(Add H.264, Motion JPEG,3GPP2 to the format list)
Video BitRate--Improves Video recording in MPEG4
I should tell you that, this two tweaks is not useful on Touch Pro2 (I don't know if they have any effects on other phones).The first one makes you could record in H.264 format, but only with a resolution up to 352x288. The second one has no use at all.
But from BsB tweaks, I know that there're some Reg keys handle the video recording parameters, So I spend whole night on these keys, and find many interesting things
1.Enlarge video recording Bitrate and Framerate:
Value function
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\Recparam\<...>\<Bitrate;VSBitRate;FrameRate>"
These Reg Values control the video recording Bitrate and FrameRate, if you want to enhance the quality, you can write down a bigger number.
For example, change
"HKLM\...\Recparam\H264Large\BitRate" to 600000(dec)
"HKLM\...\Recparam\H264Large\VSBitRate" to 600000(dec)
"HKLM\...\Recparam\H264Large\FrameRate" to 20(dec)
(Tips: Large equals to CIF, Medium equals to QVGA, etc...)
then when you set the Capture format to H.264 and Resolution to CIF(352x288),finally you will get a *.3gp video at 600kbps(VBR)@20fps.
Now a new question comes out: what's the upper limit Bitrate of Touch pro2 to record a H264 video?
I have done the test and find out that you could record a H.264 video as high as [email protected](352x288) ! Maybe you have thought that MSM7200 couldn't be so powerful to encode 1000kbps H.264, but it really works fine！
So，if MSM7200 could support 1000kpbs bitrate，then it should have enough power to record a VGA H.264 video! Go next！
2.Crack H.264 VGA video record limitation on Touch Pro2:
Don't wasting time on the HTC video recording program, whatever you do finally you just can use the resolution no more than CIF(352x288) when H.264 format is selected.
Now the way out is here:"HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P2\"
When I delete it, the HTC video recording program can't start anymore. Now you know, this Reg Key has the Values to decide which format and resolution the recording program should use
Value function
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P2\CaptureFormat"
When set to "10(hex)", the video format is MPEG4 (*.mp4 V:MPEG4, A:AAC);
When set to "2000(hex)", the video format is H.264 (*.3gp V:H.264, A:AAC);
Other value not tested.
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P2\MainCamCaptSize"
When set to "20(hex)", the video resolution is 352x288;
When set to "1000(hex)", the video resolution is 640x480;
Other value not tested.
PS: Check if there is a Key "H264VGA" in "HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\Recparam\", if you can't find it, please create it manually and copy all Values from "H264Large", set BitRate & VSBitRate to 1000000(dec) and FrameRate to 20(dec).
When you set CaptureFormat=2000(hex) and MainCamCaptSize=1000(hex),then start HTC Video Recording, you'll get a VGA H.264 video with great quality!
3.Try 1000kbps VGA MPEG4 video recording:
Besides H.264 format, you can also enlarge the BitRate (in HKLM\...\Recparam\MPEG4VGA) of MPEG4 formate to get a excellent quality MPEG4 video.
Compare between MPEG4(1000kbps,VGA,20fps) and H.264(1000kbps,VGA,20fps), I find that MPEG4 has a better quality on rapid motional scene, because it's variable bitrate is up to 1600kbps, and H.264 is limited to 1000kbps. MPEG4 also has a higher average famerate, act more smooth than H.264. On the other hand, H.264 has a strong advantage on slow motional scene. Altogether, MPEG4 has a surprising better quality than H.264 at 1000kbps VGA mode.
4.Attention:
1.Don't set the bitrate more than 1000000, if you set it as 1100000, you could find that the actual bitrate break down to 128kbps! That is why the BsB tweaks didn't work, it tweaks the MP4VGA bitrate to 4194304(dec) !
2.Don't set the framerate more than 20, or you'll get a less framerate.
3.MSM7200 handles MPEG4 and H.264 recording in HW mode, so lowering the bitrate is useless to get a smoother video. You just need to keep the bitrate less than 1000kpbs then MSM7200 will work best enough.
4.When you decide to record a VGA H.264 video, a overclock is recommonded. Just use WiMoSpeed to oc to 710MHz!
5.Don't open HTC Camera's setting panel in video recording mode, that will lock the H.264 VGA mode again and the resolution goes back to CIF!
6.Only tested on T-Mobile Touch Pro2 with EnergeRom, other MSM7200/7201 phones should work too.
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Cab and Reg files for this topic:
Enable MPEG4 & H.264 VGA recording at 1000kbps: MSM7200_H264VGA_Tweaks.cab
Unlock the H.264 VGA limitation: vgaunlock.reg (included in MSM7200_H264VGA_Tweaks.cab, but if you click out the HTC Camera's setting panel and the resolution go back to 352x288, you may need it to turn on VGA again.)
A sample recorded by Touch Pro2 @VGA H.264 format
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Complete name : I:\DCIM\100MEDIA\VIDEO0072.3gp
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 1.98 MiB
Duration : 19s 466ms
Overall bit rate : 854 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-02-01 3:20:40
Tagged date : UTC 2011-02-01 3:20:40
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 19s 466ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 825 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 978 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 14.127 fps
Minimum frame rate : 4.286 fps
Maximum frame rate : 30.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190
Stream size : 1.91 MiB (97%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2011-02-01 3:20:40
Tagged date : UTC 2011-02-01 3:20:40
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 19s 392ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 27.5 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 33.2 Kbps
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 16.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 65.2 KiB (3%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2011-02-01 3:20:40
Tagged date : UTC 2011-02-01 3:20:40
I have never been able to record in H.264 or MOTION JPEG. I can select them but everytime I wanna record my phone freezes. It has been this way no matter which rom I use. How do I get these two formats workin? Is it common for for these formats not to work?
porkenhimer said:
I have never been able to record in H.264 or MOTION JPEG. I can select them but everytime I wanna record my phone freezes. It has been this way no matter which rom I use. How do I get these two formats workin? Is it common for for these formats not to work?
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OC to 768MHz？ I think this is too high for your phone, MSM7200 use HW mode to encode video, It's video DSP maybe unstable even while your CPU works fine.
If you have tried without OC, I would say that your phone really need a repair
And you could depress the clock lower than 518MHz,for example:400MHz then try again, maybe it works.
PS: Did you try EnergyROM?
Thanks!!! could you please post some video tests on YouTube?
XMarinE said:
Thanks!!! could you please post some video tests on YouTube?
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I really want to do this, but there is a Great FireWall in my country which makes us can't visit YouTube, Twitter or Facebook, because there're many "disharmonious" information on such sites and we're "protected" by the Goverment...
But I could show you two video captures(my Laptop's desktop),left one on H.264 and right one on MPEG4, both has a 640x480 resolution and the bitrate as high as 1000kbps, I promise there're video's captures but not photos
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OC to 768MHz? I think this is too high for your phone, MSM7200 use HW mode to encode video, It's video DSP maybe unstable even while your CPU works fine.
If you have tried without OC, I would say that your phone really need a repair
And you could depress the clock lower than 518MHz,for example:400MHz then try again, maybe it works.
PS: Did you try EnergyROM?
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From day 1 the hidden formats have never worked. I use BSB TWEAKS to show them but they just freeze my camcorder. This happens whether i am overclocking or not. Yes i have tried ENERGY roms but still nothing. Could I be doing something wrong with BSB TWEAKS? I ask because my friend has the same settings and these formats do not work on her device either. It would be great if I had the reg entries for HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/CAMERA so I could compare them to my registry.
porkenhimer said:
From day 1 the hidden formats have never worked. I use BSB TWEAKS to show them but they just freeze my camcorder. This happens whether i am overclocking or not. Yes i have tried ENERGY roms but still nothing. Could I be doing something wrong with BSB TWEAKS? I ask because my friend has the same settings and these formats do not work on her device either. It would be great if I had the reg entries for HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/CAMERA so I could compare them to my registry.
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Oh, the Default format of HTC Camera really sucks, here is my Camera.reg, pls flash the newest EnergyROM and import it then try again.
By the way, what's the version of your TP2? Mine is T-Mobile without the front Camera, maybe there is something wrong with your front camera Reg setting.
Check the Value "2ndCamCaptSize" under "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P2", try set it as 10(hex) or 20(hex).
Or hard reset your TP2, then only change the value "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\P2\EncodeFormat" to 7FFFFFFF(hex), which add H.264, Motion JPEG and 3GPP2 to you format list (do not use BsB tweaks), and try again.
And, if you really can't use H.264 whatever you do, why not try a 1000kbps MPEG4, it has even better quality that H.264 in VGA mode.
So... what's the way to go?
install the CABs, do the reg edits, both?
Chillout said:
So... what's the way to go?
install the CABs, do the reg edits, both?
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Just install the CAB that's OK.
And you could also do the reg edits if you want to adjust the recording parameters yourself
The vgaunlock.reg is used to set the recording format back to H.264 VGA when you:
1.want to try another format (for example, MPEG4), then you want to use H.264 again;
2.click out the HTC Video Recorder's setting panel by mistake, this would pull down the H.264 recording resolution to 352x288.
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From day 1 the hidden formats have never worked. I use BSB TWEAKS to show them but they just freeze my camcorder. This happens whether i am overclocking or not. Yes i have tried ENERGY roms but still nothing. Could I be doing something wrong with BSB TWEAKS? I ask because my friend has the same settings and these formats do not work on her device either. It would be great if I had the reg entries for HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/CAMERA so I could compare them to my registry.
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mine crash too. When i put settings in h.26 or whatever and push record it freezes or camera stop working
thank's! I will be useful
someone testedthis on xperia x1?
Recorded a video last night and uploaded it to Youtube but Im not impressed with the quality.
Checking the settings its set to 640x480 (VGA) but the video is awfully blocky. I was under the impression that VGA recording on the TP2 was rather good.
Am I expecting too much from the device or is there something amiss here?
Does noone have any input on this? Is the linked video what I should expect from TP2 video footage?
What settings did you use?
I use Resolution L (320x240) and Capture Format MPEG4
Comes out fine for me.
Capture Format: MPEG4
Resolution: VGA (640x480)
Its blocky both on the Youtube conversion and on the phone itself.
Could it simply be a result of poor recording venue?
If there is low light this will make a difference. But test and see. Try the slightly lower resolution (because then it can cope with better compression and may be less blocky). Would be interested if anyone else has different settings. Cheers.
Like the title says, how could one make it possible to record in hdr10? Or at least, just tonal remapping that tries to make dynamic range and colors look better? The screen supports hdr10; and a over a year old sony phone can record in hdr10, so I would be shocked if the cameras cannot record in [hdr] 10.
No.
The camera hardware is not capable of recording HDR and the display is not HDR10 certified.
Post processing to make a video HDR is going to be a mixed bag, if such a thing even exists.