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I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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On ParanoidAndroid 2.54 + franco.kernel r300. None of the problems you mentioned are present or has ever happened with me. Perhaps if you didn't mod your phone so much as to NOT be able to pinpoint a problem is where you went wrong.
Who knows? I surely don't. Don't know you but I don't think I'll be noticing your absence. Good luck with everything!
automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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Thats cool, you already tried your fair share of roms, if none of them worked for you the stock is the best with unsurpassed stability. Despite whats advertised about the nexus, the stock android firmware is excellent too, specially when you want something that just plain works.
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Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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Keep coming..it works if you work it
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goodbye person ive never seen post before. hope you figure out your problems
Stock is the way to go, but you don't have to leave the xda because you no longer run a custom ROM. there is a lot of useful information that is shared here that doesn't necessarily apply to custom ROM.
I am also running stock rom from now on.
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automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I hope you really didn't write all of this from your nexus lol. But just go to stock...simple :thumbup:
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I see how you feel abouyt this. I have had issues as well. It really stems from what Roms are and what we expect from them. The term Night lies have lost a little bit of its worry recently because they are fairly bug free. But that doesn't mean that little tweaks and mods aren't killing battery life and deteriorate over time due to bad patches and coding.
That said I would highly recommend checking out BuglessBeast. They are not night lies by any means. They are highly stable AOSP Roms that perform much better then anything else on the market. He has few commits aside from under the hood tweaks. Reboot menu, emoji and a slight few other things are it. I have never had an issue with them and recommend checking them out. Also they are pretty much the only VZW app compatible ROM. Peter has been building BuglessBeast since Eclair on the Droid1 (almost 3 years now). Always providing an excellent experience.
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Keep coming..it works if you work it
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Flashaholics anonymous?
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Stock + root is the way to go for me on Nexus phones. On my last non Nexus (SGS3) I was always flashing new roms trying to look for something that just works, but I am tired of it. On my Nexus S and GNexus, stock rom is amazing, I don't need anything else.
automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.
This phone runs very well with Stock+Root. I normally root devices because of different apps I like to use, and the ability to make custom backups...but I dont normally try anything bleeding edge...lol.
Partly because of my experience on an HTC phone...hated Sense and bought the GNex because of the AOSP.
akira02rex said:
I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.
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No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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negrobembon said:
No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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No I get that, it's good to see support for older devices but c'mon have you counted the amount of 4.1.2 roms that are available for the gnex? If I build android I'm automatically called a developer? Because that's the way it seems here...
I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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Soldier 2.0 said:
I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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its the kernels that offer the colors(the kernels that the ROM developers include too). of all the kernels available, only a very few distinguish themselves from the stock crappy colors.
This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my...
Blah blah blah.....
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No, please stay! We'll never survive without you! [/SARCASM]
GhoXt said:
This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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Alright Captain, you keep Franco deep in your throat.
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Yeah pretty much sums it up. I rooted my first note 2 everything was fine then all of a sudden i installed a kernel and it would take 12 hours to charge to full from fulll empty. and about 15 min to even turn on. ever since then i cracked the screen and got a replacement. kinda liking it stock. but kinda wana root it again. only thing stopping me is that i dont want anything to happen to this phone. I DUNNO WHAT TO DO. any suggestions?
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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janjannsen99 said:
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
Solos92 said:
Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Whether or not you should root your phone is completely up to you. If you like stock, leave it stock. You don't have to go around flashing new kernels or ROMs if you're satisfied with stock. I rooted it because I wanted tethering and unlimited multiwindows... I have the stock kernel and stock ROM but deodexed with a few mods that I like. There are a ton of awesome ROMs out there but I'm not trying to win a popularity/nerd contest as to who can make the most changes to their phones. Make your phone the way you want it and what you want out of it.
Pretty much what i'm saying is are you happy with your phone right now? what would you change about it and is it possible to do this easily?
I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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awrnsmn said:
I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I felt the same way. .till I rooted and flashed jedi x!!!! Sooooo much better. ... I'm so happy with my phone now
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ONLY ROOT!
Hands Down. You Have To Root.
AOKP, CMX.1, AOSP LiquidSmooth Are All Available Now.
Good Luck.
It's just that you're thread doesn't say anything. I mean it's like asking if the sky is light blue or kinda blue. I mean you could have at least had a halfway good question....bah I'm not even going any further. I quit
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I personally don't see enough evidence for trolling but I think it was the literary license you took with "Solos' Long journey to finding his fate" that raised the troll alert for some. Had you merely titled it "To root, or not to root" you may have had less suspicions (but who am I to tell you how to express yourself.. some of us tend to be more or less tolerant than others & I found value in your thread)..
You may want to check out my thread as I too was exploring the "to root, or not root" debate given how remarkable the Note2 is. As I mentioned there I honestly am very happy with the all the customization available in Go Launcher over stock TW & so far satisfied with the battery life which prompted the need debate but I also think I should be able to tether wirelessly with my data allotment on occasion & check out Titanium backup & all Avast options that require root so I will likely root-update this weekend as I want zero downtime during the week. I do appreciate the stability I'm currently experiencing so if that becomes compromised I am trusting posters here that its full unroot option would enable easy reversibility. I also currently have Monthly4G™ Handset Protection but hopefully I won't ever have to use it. -Peace
What? CM going corporate? Say it isn't so!!
Well, it is:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/18/cyanogen-is-now-a-company/
What does this bode for the future of development? Are you psyched, or sickened?
I feel a little... Used. We have all been nothing more than beta testers. Of course we knew that all along, but it was cool when it was rogue and edgy and "stickin' it to the Man". Now, it's sort of... Ewww.
First we learn that Android 5.0 aka Key Lime Pie is really going to be Android 4.4 Kit Kat ... A phone linked to a candy bar with the catch phrase "Give me a break." Now this! What's next? Android becomes WinApple Omega? Can Skynet be far off?
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I'm more excited for the future of CM.
Making installation easier for the general user is pretty cool, but I also feel that CM is becoming less and less Android every day.
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"There's a partnership with an unnamed hardware manufacturer in the works..."
Maybe a hardware company that's on the ropes that has a "relatively" new operating system based on Linux with an Android runtime.......?
Justy sayin.
Google went with deserts; A, B, Cupcake, Eclair, Froyo, etc....
CM could go with fruit. Skip A and start with.....
Blackberries?
Leraeniesh said:
... CM is becoming less and less Android every day.
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From what I gathered from the article, that is by intent.
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FirePsych said:
"There's a partnership with an unnamed hardware manufacturer in the works..."
Maybe a hardware company that's on the ropes that has a "relatively" new operating system based on Linux with an Android runtime.......?
Justy sayin.
Google went with deserts; A, B, Cupcake, Eclair, Froyo, etc....
CM could go with fruit. Skip A and start with.....
Blackberries?
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That could only be successful if CM was the driving force and not the hardware vendor. RIM has already demonstrated their inability to adapt to a changing market.
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At least there are plenty of custom ROMs to choose from if CM goes downhill.
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At least there are plenty of custom ROMs to choose from if CM goes downhill.
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Yeah, but a lot of them are CM based.
OK, I am officially officially done with the whole Custom ROM scene. I have just spent half the night trying to get CM 10.2 to reboot after going into recovery 2.6.3.0. Tried wiping data and restoring it, wiping dalvik and cache, all the normal tricks. I even tried going back to TWRP 2.5.0. The only way I could get it to reboot was by wiping my data altogether, which is just too annoying. Regardless of what others' experiences may have been, mine has been getting progressively worse with each attempt at using 4.3 with the recoveries we currently have available. I've missed several important calls and test messages that just were never delivered. There is just no point to it anymore. Stock, debloated and customized to my own personal tastes is quite adequate to my needs and certainly more reliable than the mess I've been dealing with all night.
So, thanks for the laughs and the peeks at new functions. It's been real, it's been fun, but it has not always been real fun. I'm done.
RikRong said:
Yeah, but a lot of them are CM based.
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The majority are based off AOSP.
There are only a few (such as Orion) that ate based on CM.
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netizenmt said:
OK, I am officially officially done with the whole Custom ROM scene. I have just spent half the night trying to get CM 10.2 to reboot after going into recovery 2.6.3.0. Tried wiping data and restoring it, wiping dalvik and cache, all the normal tricks. I even tried going back to TWRP 2.5.0. The only way I could get it to reboot was by wiping my data altogether, which is just too annoying. Regardless of what others' experiences may have been, mine has been getting progressively worse with each attempt at using 4.3 with the recoveries we currently have available. I've missed several important calls and test messages that just were never delivered. There is just no point to it anymore. Stock, debloated and customized to my own personal tastes is quite adequate to my needs and certainly more reliable than the mess I've been dealing with all night.
So, thanks for the laughs and the peeks at new functions. It's been real, it's been fun, but it has not always been real fun. I'm done.
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If you ever change your mind, I highly reccomend cwmr at this point with 4.3 builds. It has pretty much been flawless. This is the latest touch from the cwm builder website
netizenmt said:
OK, I am officially officially done with the whole Custom ROM scene. I have just spent half the night trying to get CM 10.2 to reboot after going into recovery 2.6.3.0. Tried wiping data and restoring it, wiping dalvik and cache, all the normal tricks. I even tried going back to TWRP 2.5.0. The only way I could get it to reboot was by wiping my data altogether, which is just too annoying. Regardless of what others' experiences may have been, mine has been getting progressively worse with each attempt at using 4.3 with the recoveries we currently have available. I've missed several important calls and test messages that just were never delivered. There is just no point to it anymore. Stock, debloated and customized to my own personal tastes is quite adequate to my needs and certainly more reliable than the mess I've been dealing with all night.
So, thanks for the laughs and the peeks at new functions. It's been real, it's been fun, but it has not always been real fun. I'm done.
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you forgot the extra line: "And this time, I mean it!"
Here's a good read for those giving second thoughts about the Cyanogen team
https://plus.google.com/106978520009932034644/posts/L8FJkrcahPs
From the dev of Focal, which was pulled from CM.
And here is Steve Kondik's response.
https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/W69a552ZYiN
Reading all that I am reading it sounds like they still plan to keep the open source android rom part but start a completely new platform that will be different from apple and android. So honestly this is a good thing for Cyanogen and also for gadget lovers as a whole. The only thing I hope for is that all that have contributed over the years gets what they deserve. Whether it is a settlement or profit share even. It would only be right.
Big thank you to CyanogenMod and all that have contributed to more enjoyment out of what started out as just a mobile phone.
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netizenmt said:
OK, I am officially officially done with the whole Custom ROM scene. I have just spent half the night trying to get CM 10.2 to reboot after going into recovery 2.6.3.0. Tried wiping data and restoring it, wiping dalvik and cache, all the normal tricks. I even tried going back to TWRP 2.5.0. The only way I could get it to reboot was by wiping my data altogether, which is just too annoying. Regardless of what others' experiences may have been, mine has been getting progressively worse with each attempt at using 4.3 with the recoveries we currently have available. I've missed several important calls and test messages that just were never delivered. There is just no point to it anymore. Stock, debloated and customized to my own personal tastes is quite adequate to my needs and certainly more reliable than the mess I've been dealing with all night.
So, thanks for the laughs and the peeks at new functions. It's been real, it's been fun, but it has not always been real fun. I'm done.
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Exactly why I haven't even given a thought to trying out 4.3. Not getting into that whole mess. I love my AOKP 4.2.2 so sticking with what works.
I guess I'm not bothered by Cyanogen's move as I wasn't really fan to begin with. But I'll be interested in seeing what they'll be up to in the future.
More info on next week's announcement:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...first-hardware-partnership-with-oppo-to-work/
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netizenmt said:
OK, I am officially officially done with the whole Custom ROM scene. I have just spent half the night trying to get CM 10.2 to reboot after going into recovery 2.6.3.0. Tried wiping data and restoring it, wiping dalvik and cache, all the normal tricks. I even tried going back to TWRP 2.5.0. The only way I could get it to reboot was by wiping my data altogether, which is just too annoying. Regardless of what others' experiences may have been, mine has been getting progressively worse with each attempt at using 4.3 with the recoveries we currently have available. I've missed several important calls and test messages that just were never delivered. There is just no point to it anymore. Stock, debloated and customized to my own personal tastes is quite adequate to my needs and certainly more reliable than the mess I've been dealing with all night.
So, thanks for the laughs and the peeks at new functions. It's been real, it's been fun, but it has not always been real fun. I'm done.
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You complain a lot for issues you cause yourself
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You complain a lot for issues you cause yourself
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I didn't cause any of my issues. I've been doing the custom ROM thing for a long time and always follow very careful procedures. I wipe everything 3x, I never dirty flash and I always manually install my apps only after the ROM has been installed. So how have I caused my issues? The darn 4.3 ROMs just don't reboot properly and aren't reliable. I didn't have these issues with the 4.2.2 ROMs.
Besides, the OP is about CM going corporate. I didn't cause that either.
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I didn't cause any of my issues. I've been doing the custom ROM thing for a long time and always follow very careful procedures. I wipe everything 3x, I never dirty flash and I always manually install my apps only after the ROM has been installed. So how have I caused my issues? The darn 4.3 ROMs just don't reboot properly and aren't reliable. I didn't have these issues with the 4.2.2 ROMs.
Besides, the OP is about CM going corporate. I didn't cause that either.
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I'm not referring to the OP, am I? I quoted a post with you whining, once again, about issues that no one else is running into except yourself. If you knew 100% what you were doing, you wouldn't be running into these issues. I've been running cm10.2 since day 1 and its been absolutely 100% here. I have been having better than stock performance also so i dont understand why you are whining about that either. I also have no idea what you are talking about with "not rebooting properly" as i have not run into any issues with 10.2 whatsoever and have never heard anything on that topic. If you have an issue, please take a log of the issue and submit it as whining and complaining will not fix an unknown issue.
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I'm not referring to the OP, am I? I quoted a post with you whining, once again, about issues that no one else is running into except yourself. If you knew 100% what you were doing, you wouldn't be running into these issues. I've been running cm10.2 since day 1 and its been absolutely 100% here. I have been having better than stock performance also so i dont understand why you are whining about that either. I also have no idea what you are talking about with "not rebooting properly" as i have not run into any issues with 10.2 whatsoever and have never heard anything on that topic. If you have an issue, please take a log of the issue and submit it as whining and complaining will not fix an unknown issue.
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Freezes at the Moto red ball logo, which plenty of people have reported beside me.
Watch your smart mouth, pal. I don't whine and I don't appreciate being talked to like a 5 year old. If you can't be courteous and offer something useful, then keep your snide comments to yourself.
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I talk to them like how they act.
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I talk to them like how they act.
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This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives
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This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives
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you might want to root and delete all the bloatware it really helps all the extra tmobile apps and stuff or flash a international rom they are usually great
I honestly did not want to do all of that and I dont see why this phone needs to have that dome to function like you should expect it too
I'd flash wicked 7.
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Once again that's not the point
This isn't an "Android" problem.
If you want a pure Android experience, get a Nexus. Simple as that. You're forgetting the great thing about Android. So many customizations. Yes, Touchwiz may be a little laggy, but heck, it does have some pretty awesome features. If you want to go with a barebone experience, either get a Nexus or don't complain and flash another ROM, simple as that. (Note, I'm not flaming you. I can understand why you may be feeling like that.) But if you want something simple and boring, get an iPhone, lol. Keep in mind Android is still relatively young. And it's growing at a fast pace. 4.4 is around the corner and there's always innovation and updates. It is what it is, man. The S4 is a great phone.
Here's the thing, the people that never root phones, flash custom ROMS, etc.. they probably won't notice how much more potential this phone has, so they won't even care. But then there's people that have rooted and flashed and complain this phone is slower than their previous one. Well.. do something about it.
AndreaCristiano said:
This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives
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You're doing it wrong. Root it and delete things.
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Could be a defective device. My s4 had none of those problems while stock. Have you tried a simple factory reset? If that doesn't help, I would call for a replacement.
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This isn't an "Android" problem.
If you want a pure Android experience, get a Nexus. Simple as that. You're forgetting the great thing about Android. So many customizations. Yes, Touchwiz may be a little laggy, but heck, it does have some pretty awesome features. If you want to go with a barebone experience, either get a Nexus or don't complain and flash another ROM, simple as that. (Note, I'm not flaming you. I can understand why you may be feeling like that.) But if you want something simple and boring, get an iPhone, lol. Keep in mind Android is still relatively young. And it's growing at a fast pace. 4.4 is around the corner and there's always innovation and updates. It is what it is, man. The S4 is a great phone.
Here's the thing, the people that never root phones, flash custom ROMS, etc.. they probably won't notice how much more potential this phone has, so they won't even care. But then there's people that have rooted and flashed and complain this phone is slower than their previous one. Well.. do something about it.
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I didn't say it was an android problem did you even read my post? I stated it was about the sgs4 and being overly bloated by Samsung
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Could be a defective device. My s4 had none of those problems while stock. Have you tried a simple factory reset? If that doesn't help, I would call for a replacement.
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Yes I wiped it multiple times and it still does it
Damn. I was completely stock for a while and my S4 never froze at all. Some lag here and there but that's expected when you got almost everything running. I'd say defective. Sh*t happens!
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Gonna see how this most recent wipe goes then decide.
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You're doing it wrong. Root it and delete things.
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Touchwiz running like aosp?! What did you delete to get it down to that? I'm debloated but not to that point yet.
Forever Flashing/T-Mobile GS4
AndreaCristiano said:
This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives
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No idea what gives, but I'm stock and been running lots of apps, and Nova launcher for months with zero issues that you describe. Mine hasn't frozen or bogged down once, and I go days or weeks without rebooting. Whether it's a HW problem with your phone, a bad app, or some configuration issue I haven't seen, who knows, but this phone is rock solid for me.
My wife and I never had a problem when we were on stock. My friend experienced all the things that you are he ended up going back to an iphone5 instead of just letting me root and install a custom rom because he had the same thought that he shouldn't have to do that to make it run right
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This line of discussion is probably best suited for here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433835
I was so excited to get a different phone. I had been contending with the insufferable Galaxy Note 2 for 9 months. I really believed that getting the LG Optimus G Pro would be great.
Now I come to find out that there is this locked bootloader? yes before you even start typing: I already know about Freegee. I put it on my phone, it did its work. I have CWM on my phone. I cannot install a different rom. It aborts every time.
And nobody here can help. Its not like you don't see my posts. You see them. You just see them and decide to go on to something more interesting figuring that someone else will help the poor guy.
Hey guess what. I took programming in college. Only one course in VB but I did take it. And I've put up several websites back in the day. ("back in the day is a United States colloquialism")
My point is, even though I have a bit of experience with computers (linux distros, html, visual basic) I still can't figure out the quagmire that is Android.
Once the iPhone 6 comes out, I really have no reason to stick with Android anymore. I mean, if rooting and rom-ing the phone is more boringly laborious than jailbreaking, then what is the point of Android?
For example, lets say I do clear the hurdle and then flash a rom so I can get decent sound? THEN my wifi won't work. Or Some other crucial functionality will be fubar-ed. Okay okay... you say you have a fix for that? Well when its all said and done, the time/energy costs just aren't worth it, now is it?
0 #!*! Given ?
That's interesting because I never took any classes and have never had a problem rooting or doing Roms on any android phone. Sorry your experience has been bad but my questions have always been answered by somebody in the related thread. I would try asking again in the ROM's thread to see what is happening.
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G pro is the note 2 killer...... Just follow instructions of any op to the T and you should be fine.... It's simple lol
2SHAYNEZ
I agree. I don't post often but I really do hate Apple. Android kicks Apple's you know what many times over. Talk about being locked down.... If I've ever had a problem with a Rom someone has always helped me figure it out. Sorry about your problems though.
sent from my lgog pro. I just had to go bigger.
@Perry2547,
If CWM doesn't work then try TWRP, even i had problems with CWM.either install it from freegee or install this
copy this to sd card and then flash it in CWM and reboot.
I believe the OP just wanted to start a thread...
So you all may ignore him
Thanks @sukesh.
I tried the twrp you linked to and now my phone will let me flash.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Close thread please.
2SHAYNEZ
I don't even remember how I rooted this phone... I know I found a thread that had comprehensive instructions, links, etc and believe it was as simple as downloading/extracting an executable file on my PC and plugging the phone into USB at the right moment. I've flashed CM, stock 4.4, Slim and always find my way back to stock 4.1.2, modded to my liking. If you can't flash something in a custom recovery, it's likely your phone is protecting you from failure to completely read/follow a prior mod or a prerequisite to the ROM/Mod you wish to flash.
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But seriously y'all, I'm just glad I have another two hours if battery life left. That means I will vhave to recharge this phone only 3 more times today.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Nobody gives a damn, get life!
Antigen said:
Nobody gives a damn, get life!
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Haha
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hawkwind212 said:
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Perry2547 said:
Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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Oh lawdy... Then go to iPhone buddy .. Lol see ya
2SHAYNEZ
But Apple has been implicated in planned obsolescence as well.
Does that matter to you?
To me, it makes me a bit upset that I could work on my vehicle twenty years ago, but now it's not possible. Planned obsolescence.
Make everything sweepstakes m disposable. Lock it down too. Keep every one buying the upgrades.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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I got a ROM to install. I indicated so in the thread. It was the E988 rom on the E980 thread.
I do a lot of whining and complaining but its for the best.
I hope that the complaining I did about Samsung's crappy products has saved a few people from buying...that is the only way that company will learn their lesson. Why pay $800 for a device only to get screen burn in.
But I never ever never ever BRICKED my Note 2.
I've bricked this OGP more times than I can count.
We should have the options to remove the locked boot loader. I would gladly sign an agreement acknowledging the risks.
We're going backwards. We're not making progress.
Same things is happening in desktop/laptop computers. I had to do something unusual to remove the UEFI on a Windows machine I bought last year just to install Lubuntu.
Speaking of Lubuntu, I had an ASUS Netbook with Windows 7 and an Atom processor. Needless to say, it ran slow. So I installed Lubuntu. Then , wow, the device ran so fast and smooth, and the already good battery life got three times better.
Why can't we have an option like that for our smartphones? I want to run the equivalent of Lubuntu on my OGP.
And another thing: Why are some custom roms dimming the display? Is it to make it appear as if the rom is giving better battery life?
Peace out bro.. but yeah, I'm not stopping my rants. If you don't like what I've got to say, simply don't read it.
This phone is not much more difficult to root than any Samsung phone I used. Also why didn't you do research before buying the phone? It was stated clearly that the boot loader was locked. However since day one of purchase I was able to follow a thread and have my phone rooted in ten minutes. It is really not that hard. Now there are a bunch of one click roots. This phone installs custom Roms every time with ease for me. I am no expert but I can read instructions. If you follow them, 99% of the time things will work. I love android for the fact that I have options. I am running a rooted stock ROM now but I love knowing that in ten minutes time I can have a new ROM flashed. This community has been so helpful and responsive.
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