After many years with Android... - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4

This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives

AndreaCristiano said:
This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives
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you might want to root and delete all the bloatware it really helps all the extra tmobile apps and stuff or flash a international rom they are usually great

I honestly did not want to do all of that and I dont see why this phone needs to have that dome to function like you should expect it too

I'd flash wicked 7.
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Once again that's not the point

This isn't an "Android" problem.
If you want a pure Android experience, get a Nexus. Simple as that. You're forgetting the great thing about Android. So many customizations. Yes, Touchwiz may be a little laggy, but heck, it does have some pretty awesome features. If you want to go with a barebone experience, either get a Nexus or don't complain and flash another ROM, simple as that. (Note, I'm not flaming you. I can understand why you may be feeling like that.) But if you want something simple and boring, get an iPhone, lol. Keep in mind Android is still relatively young. And it's growing at a fast pace. 4.4 is around the corner and there's always innovation and updates. It is what it is, man. The S4 is a great phone.
Here's the thing, the people that never root phones, flash custom ROMS, etc.. they probably won't notice how much more potential this phone has, so they won't even care. But then there's people that have rooted and flashed and complain this phone is slower than their previous one. Well.. do something about it.

AndreaCristiano said:
This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives
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You're doing it wrong. Root it and delete things.
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Could be a defective device. My s4 had none of those problems while stock. Have you tried a simple factory reset? If that doesn't help, I would call for a replacement.
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Exel said:
This isn't an "Android" problem.
If you want a pure Android experience, get a Nexus. Simple as that. You're forgetting the great thing about Android. So many customizations. Yes, Touchwiz may be a little laggy, but heck, it does have some pretty awesome features. If you want to go with a barebone experience, either get a Nexus or don't complain and flash another ROM, simple as that. (Note, I'm not flaming you. I can understand why you may be feeling like that.) But if you want something simple and boring, get an iPhone, lol. Keep in mind Android is still relatively young. And it's growing at a fast pace. 4.4 is around the corner and there's always innovation and updates. It is what it is, man. The S4 is a great phone.
Here's the thing, the people that never root phones, flash custom ROMS, etc.. they probably won't notice how much more potential this phone has, so they won't even care. But then there's people that have rooted and flashed and complain this phone is slower than their previous one. Well.. do something about it.
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I didn't say it was an android problem did you even read my post? I stated it was about the sgs4 and being overly bloated by Samsung

Towle said:
Could be a defective device. My s4 had none of those problems while stock. Have you tried a simple factory reset? If that doesn't help, I would call for a replacement.
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Yes I wiped it multiple times and it still does it

Damn. I was completely stock for a while and my S4 never froze at all. Some lag here and there but that's expected when you got almost everything running. I'd say defective. Sh*t happens!
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Gonna see how this most recent wipe goes then decide.

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You're doing it wrong. Root it and delete things.
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Touchwiz running like aosp?! What did you delete to get it down to that? I'm debloated but not to that point yet.
Forever Flashing/T-Mobile GS4

AndreaCristiano said:
This SGS4 is a piece of bloated crap!
I have had it now for months and all it does is freeze up, bog down and force me to battery pull like it was my G1 years back. WTF I have had all the previous galaxy's many HTC phones and I just dont understand this. My phone is completely stock and the only thing I changed was adfibg the goigke keyboard and textra. What gives
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No idea what gives, but I'm stock and been running lots of apps, and Nova launcher for months with zero issues that you describe. Mine hasn't frozen or bogged down once, and I go days or weeks without rebooting. Whether it's a HW problem with your phone, a bad app, or some configuration issue I haven't seen, who knows, but this phone is rock solid for me.

My wife and I never had a problem when we were on stock. My friend experienced all the things that you are he ended up going back to an iphone5 instead of just letting me root and install a custom rom because he had the same thought that he shouldn't have to do that to make it run right
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This line of discussion is probably best suited for here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433835

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Rooting...good idea or bad??

So im thinkin to root my phone what u guys think should I?? What are the perks of doin it as well??
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Rooting is up to u man. If u want to do it. As far asks what u get it depends on what u flash. If u just want root then u have access to your /system partition. Use apps that require root permission. With a custom recovery U can flash custom kernels for overclock and undervolt purpose. You can flash custom ROMs.
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I would say no right now, to be honest.
I had a ton of troubles finding the right downloads to get it rooted. In the end, I rooted and installed Starburst and wasn't really impressed; I feel like there was nothing to even be able to edit. It was like running the stock ROM with a new lockscreen.
I'd hold off until development increases on this device. I'm probably going to unroot mine.
rooting is lots of fun, IF you know what the hell you are doing, BEFORE you start the process
Most problems that people have come from NOT READING and learning about it before they do it..
Just like anything else in life, if you don't read about it, and learn about it BEFORE you decide to do it, you will have problems.
It just blows my mind how many people get a phone, and root it and start flashing stuff without having any idea what they are doing, and then freak out when some thing goes wrong, and post frantic "please help me" stuff all over the internet..
Take the time to learn about it BEFORE you do it, and ask your questions BEFORE you start messing with your phone..If you won't do that, can't do that, or aren't smart enough to understand what you are reading, then don't root; this is a fantastic phone even if you never root it..
I was pessimistic aswell and took the plunge last night. Running Starburst its not the greatest but MUCH better than stock. Battery life is ludicrous. And much more fluid and responsive... My main reason was battery life and oh boy dose it help!
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See I rooted my evo 4g and I mean I liked it for the fact that I could do hella roms and I could overclock it cuz my friends had updated newer phones and just blowing me out the water with speed so I did it it was nice now in just stuck with this one cuz im not sure if its smart right now to do ya know
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Starbust rom does not come with theme. U have to apply it urself. There are alot of themes out there. SB its main point is to save battery and it did a great job.if u like to customize, remove bloatwares or tweak ur phone, root ur phone.
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I like viperom
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You can always reverse a root. it makes your phone even more functional than it already is.
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I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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ipetloudog said:
I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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THE root method will be the same.
Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
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Phone is pretty new you may get lucky and there are not enough refurbs out there to give you back a new one
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Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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I agree its totally up to the person but not like rooting and then unrooting is you difficult.... Hey may favorite line I have read in xda is "It aint yours till you root it" - words to live by....lol
Rooting is pretty easy on this phone, but I know there are not a lot of Devs compared to like the Evo 3d. The Devs we do have are all like pros at developing though, so they will be able to update and bring new things frequently. I rooted on Starburst's rom and I love it, because it's so Stock that it seems like its still and E4GT, but so different that I know its more smooth.
So im sewing u guys all like this starburst rom....I think I will wait lil bit longer to root when more roms comes out
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[REVIEW]My thoughts after 1 week...

I switched to Verizon from Sprint one week ago. I bought the Galaxy Nexus and my wife has a Droid 4 (after trading out the Stratosphere).
After the first week with the Galaxy Nexus, I must say I am very happy. I was using the Samsung Epic 4G Touch on Sprint, and at the time it was the best phone I had ever used. There are some features on this phone that do not stand up to the E4GT, but there are others that blow its doors off.
What I Like
Ice Cream Sandwich has been a great treat for me. I haven't been the biggest fan of the stock launchers up until ICS. The entire interface is truly a pleasure to use. Some of the features I like are:
• The options given for the lockscreen are great.
• Face Unlock works very well, except in low light.
• The on screen buttons work very well and add a nice component to the OS. I love the fact that the buttons open up valuable real estate on the front of the device to allow for a larger screen. The merits of this shine through when watching videos in landscape mode.
• The Galaxy Nexus has a beautiful display. Watching HQ content in you tube has been a treat. Everything looks brilliant on the display.
• The stock keyboard in ICS is excellent. I began using it on my E4GT as a market downloadable version, and I must say, it may even be slightly better on the GN. The word prediction is excellent and I find that even when typing fast I don't seem to make many mistakes.
• I love the app/widget drawer. The way they were integrated together works nicely. They are related, and thus should be together.
• The new multitasking button has become one of my new best friends. It is so simple to use and a lot less clunky than the old way of holding the home button.
• The settings menu is even improved. Mostly, the aesthetics are improved, but I also find the data usage meter very useful and handy; hell it even shows data used while using wifi.
• I also like the new folder system used on the home screens. I am using that feature and because of the folders, I don't miss having 7 screens.
What I Dislike
There isn't much that I don't like about this phone, but there are a couple things I miss:
• While the screen is brilliant, the high resolution causes some notification bar displays I used to use too small to read.
• I wish the dialer would function in a way that while I dial a number it searches for, and displays, potential matches for me to choose from.
• I wish the notification bar had some toggle in it (I know that isn't a stock Android feature.
As for the switch to Verizon...
I have been very impressed with the service I have received from Verizon. I have contacted them a few times by phone and each and every time I have felt as though they actually care about my business and want to help me. They have been extremely pleasant. Coming from Sprint, where I always felt like I was a burden when I called. The representatives at Sprint seemed to be on the defensive before I even opened my mouth.
Also, the coverage and speed of the LTE network is very impressive. Sprints WiMax network was fast when I could connect to it, which was seldom. I am (almost) always connected to LTE and have regularly seen 20+ Mbps download.
In Conclusion
The Galaxy Nexus is a joy to use and the network is fantastic. The extra $20-30 a month for Verizon is well worth it in my opinion.
glad you like the phone.
Now unlock that sucker and install AOKP on it; it will fix the last two points of your dislikes.
https://sites.google.com/site/androidopenkangproject/home
andy2na said:
glad you like the phone.
Now unlock that sucker and install AOKP on it; it will fix the last two points of your dislikes.
https://sites.google.com/site/androidopenkangproject/home
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yeah what he said. I disliked those as well, once I rooted and installed Kang, I am so happy with the phone. Which is kinda a bummer now I have nothing more to complain about and nothing to search to install. OH HUM
Is this AOKP going to give me the stock experience I have grown so fond of?
Also, will it wipe my phone to install? I unlocked the boot loader already because I read that would wipe everything. I have not rooted yet though.
Thanks for the information and suggestion. I will look into the link when I get home.
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yeah what he said. I disliked those as well, once I rooted and installed Kang, I am so happy with the phone. Which is kinda a bummer now I have nothing more to complain about and nothing to search to install. OH HUM
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So which version of ICS is this based off of? Also, is the battery life improved from stock?
Its off 4.0.3 AOKP-TORO-Milestone 3 and I am running Franco Kernel with it.
I took it off the charger at 5am and its now 6 pm and I have about 40 percent battery left. and I use the phone all the time, texting tweeting calls pics. Its much better than stock, there are alot of mods you can do with it as well to save battery.
I am totally stoked about the phone now
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nebrando said:
Is this AOKP going to give me the stock experience I have grown so fond of?
Also, will it wipe my phone to install? I unlocked the boot loader already because I read that would wipe everything. I have not rooted yet though.
Thanks for the information and suggestion. I will look into the link when I get home.
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Once you unlock the bootloader loading a ROM wont wipe the phone. It will keep files in tack on the phone
You will want to wipe data when you load or switch roms though. Wiping data in recovery will:
Delete your apps, texts, call history, remove your Gmail account.
Wiping data in recovery will NOT:
Delete anything on your "SD card" this includes pictures you have taken and anything you have transferred over via your computer.
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bootsie99 said:
Once you unlock the bootloader loading a ROM wont wipe the phone. It will keep files in tack on the phone
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So, is there a way to return to stock without wiping if I don't like it?
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nebrando said:
So, is there a way to return to stock without wiping if I don't like it?
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Hmmm, without wiping I dont believe so. Once you return to stock it will wipe your card for sure.
I used the Galaxy root tool kit. it is by far the easiest thing for rooting unlocking and relocking and returning to stock
Thanks bootsie. I appreciate the help. I'm hesitant to flash a rom right now because I am so happy with the stock build. I'm afraid to find something changed or missing and not be able to get back to stock without losing all my apps and stuff.
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nebrando said:
Thanks bootsie. I appreciate the help. I'm hesitant to flash a rom right now because I am so happy with the stock build. I'm afraid to find something changed or missing and not be able to get back to stock without losing all my apps and stuff.
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Make a backup of your stock Rom before flashing something else. Then you can flash back with everything in tact if you do not like anything else.
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Make a backup of your stock Rom before flashing something else. Then you can flash back with everything in tact if you do not like anything else.
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Using nandroid?
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Given your statement about @ 24 hour battery life what settings are you using in terms of Sync, display etc.?
Just activated my phone and where do I go.. xda...switched from the evo 3d from sprint...I loved 3d hated the service...and wow just been on this phone for a couple hours and it feels great...and service compared to sprint...speechless
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To the OP I know what you are saying about the dialer and I have recently installed this application from the market. It solved my issue and I haven't had a problem yet.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.modoohut.dialer&feature=search_result
Jealous man...got a taste of ICS on my 3D...and I really want a GSM GN where'd you score your GN?
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ickwonder said:
Just activated my phone and where do I go.. xda...switched from the evo 3d from sprint...I loved 3d hated the service...and wow just been on this phone for a couple hours and it feels great...and service compared to sprint...speechless
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I just did the same thing 2 days ago. I had a ET4G and my wife had a Nexus S 4G. I have a GalaxyNexus now and she has the Motorola Razor. She was really close to getting the Droid 4 but I told her he would like the bigger screen better (she loves words with friends lol). Sprint has terrible service on my street and in my house. So I switched after 8 years. Im running MIUI right now. Still can't believe that MIUI has 4G working on this service.
I am with you on how much I like the nexus. After reading the forums and seeing how helpful people are here l going to unlock and root. Good luck with phone.
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nebrando said:
So, is there a way to return to stock without wiping if I don't like it?
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Yes just create a nand backup of your stock setup. You can return to exactly how your stock setup is down to the last file, text, call log, etc. It will be just as you left it.

To root, or not to root. Solos' Long journey to finding his fate.

Yeah pretty much sums it up. I rooted my first note 2 everything was fine then all of a sudden i installed a kernel and it would take 12 hours to charge to full from fulll empty. and about 15 min to even turn on. ever since then i cracked the screen and got a replacement. kinda liking it stock. but kinda wana root it again. only thing stopping me is that i dont want anything to happen to this phone. I DUNNO WHAT TO DO. any suggestions?
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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janjannsen99 said:
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Whether or not you should root your phone is completely up to you. If you like stock, leave it stock. You don't have to go around flashing new kernels or ROMs if you're satisfied with stock. I rooted it because I wanted tethering and unlimited multiwindows... I have the stock kernel and stock ROM but deodexed with a few mods that I like. There are a ton of awesome ROMs out there but I'm not trying to win a popularity/nerd contest as to who can make the most changes to their phones. Make your phone the way you want it and what you want out of it.
Pretty much what i'm saying is are you happy with your phone right now? what would you change about it and is it possible to do this easily?
I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I felt the same way. .till I rooted and flashed jedi x!!!! Sooooo much better. ... I'm so happy with my phone now
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ONLY ROOT!
Hands Down. You Have To Root.
AOKP, CMX.1, AOSP LiquidSmooth Are All Available Now.
Good Luck.
It's just that you're thread doesn't say anything. I mean it's like asking if the sky is light blue or kinda blue. I mean you could have at least had a halfway good question....bah I'm not even going any further. I quit
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I personally don't see enough evidence for trolling but I think it was the literary license you took with "Solos' Long journey to finding his fate" that raised the troll alert for some. Had you merely titled it "To root, or not to root" you may have had less suspicions (but who am I to tell you how to express yourself.. some of us tend to be more or less tolerant than others & I found value in your thread)..
You may want to check out my thread as I too was exploring the "to root, or not root" debate given how remarkable the Note2 is. As I mentioned there I honestly am very happy with the all the customization available in Go Launcher over stock TW & so far satisfied with the battery life which prompted the need debate but I also think I should be able to tether wirelessly with my data allotment on occasion & check out Titanium backup & all Avast options that require root so I will likely root-update this weekend as I want zero downtime during the week. I do appreciate the stability I'm currently experiencing so if that becomes compromised I am trusting posters here that its full unroot option would enable easy reversibility. I also currently have Monthly4G™ Handset Protection but hopefully I won't ever have to use it. -Peace

Should I root my S4?

The phone's already pretty dang fast and smooth, what's better about this phone when it's rooted?
Abhi97 said:
The phone's already pretty dang fast and smooth, what's better about this phone when it's rooted?
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It depends on what you want. for example, i rooted my phones because I got tired of the ads on every game and app. so, i installed ad-free android. and also, i like to use different ROMs. but if you aren't into things like that, you don't have to root. the phone is excellent just the way it is.
I wouldn't recommend rooting your phone at the moment, at least wait till after the update. but to be honest this phone is super smooth and the only reason you'd really want to root is as the guy mentioned above, and maybe a few other tweaks or if you wanted to try cyanogen 10.1 or aosp/aokp roms.
rooting my phones after jelly bean
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Yes yes yes root it.
I rooted because I couldnt hear tmobile sound while turning off and on haha.
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Like others have said, it depends if you really want to. I did because 1. I hate ads 2. I wanted to restore my games with all their data. 3. To uninstall all the bloatware I'm never gonna use it 4. And of course to flash roms
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I hate ads too, but I like to keep it stock, until some rom which is amazing and has no problems comes
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Abhi97 said:
I hate ads too, but I like to keep it stock, until some rom which is amazing and has no problems comes
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Why not just downlaod the stock official M919 Odin flash firmware and keep it in a good safe place so if or when you feel you want to
to restore your phone to the official stock unrooted state as it was when you first purchased the phone you will be able to do just that.
If you keep your phone stock and unrooted all you will accomplish is having a crippled phone and you will not be able to enjoy it to the
fullest extent.
You will not be able to use many of the useful and productive apps from the play store because a lot of the better apps, mods, themes
and audio/video software will require root access or they will not work. Same holds true for most any app/mod/theme found here in XDA.
There are cwm/twrp flashable rooted roms which contain all the bloatware that the stock official unrooted M919 odin flash roms have so
even if you are rooted you can still enjoy whatever benefits there are for having bloatware, advertisements without being crippled by not
having the abilty to install apps/mods/themes from the market or any other place whether they require root or not.
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I personally enjoy the rooted phone much more since I'm able to use the tether feature on a custom rom.
The answer is yes, always yes.
1. Delete bloatware (stock OS partition is HUGE) You can open up a lot of memory and save battery life.
2. Control over device options/customization (see xda video and other posts)
- I hated the LOUD t-mobile start-up/shutdown sounds, being able to change the splash screens and remove sound was a big plus for me.
3. COMPLETE backups. (Games, App Data, Certain system settings or directories, etc)
4. Custom ROMs/Kernels (I haven't felt a need to OC at all, but the customizations and improvements to efficiency and battery life using the hard work of devs here really improves the overall experience using the device)
5. You can un-root if necessary.
+1 for rooting.
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I posted a similar response in a similar thread recently, but I son,t feel like I can over say this.
Root it.
Do not pass go.
Do not collect $200.
Go directly to root.
Everyone will see how super awesome your phone is and want to be just like you. People will form fan clubs to celebrate your greatness. Women will throw themselves at you because rooted phones scream "Alpha male". You will have to do occasional autograph appearances and ribbon cutting ceremonies for various business and park openings as a result.
After a while all the added responsibility and living in the public spotlight might start to wear you down. That is the only down side.
But due to your increased popularity you will get more phone calls and text messages. And every time you answer one you will do it on your rooted phone and you will be reminded of how much cooler you are than everyone else because of the nifty mod you flashed earlier that day, and you will remember that it's all worth it.
Also you get to change the color of the clock and stuff. So that's super cool.
I mean I'm kidding, obviously. But there is a definite coolness factor to rooting and modding. Nearly everyone who sees my phone asks how I made it completely orange. (Clock, icons, menus, etc...basic cyanogen theming stuff. Nothing fancy to any cyanogen user) They are mesmerized by this.
And that is just the superficial stuff. If you set it up properly you can double the battery life of a rooted phone over stock. Disabling bloat, using a battery friendly governor, under clocking, etc...its all so much better than stock. I'd take a 2 year old rooted phone over a brand new top of the line stock phone any day.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Haha, alright ill give it a try.
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Keep in mind that once you are rooted, you can choose not to use root features.
If you aren't rooted, you can't suddenly decided you do want to use a root feature.
Its once of those better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it situations.
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Abhi97 said:
The phone's already pretty dang fast and smooth, what's better about this phone when it's rooted?
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yes and after you root, pick a rom to run right here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557

Q: Crucial answers needed before purchase or decide to wait for Note 4

I'm coming off 2 generations of HTC phones and I'm due an upgrade with Sprint. I bypassed on the GS5 and One M8 for various reasons and the G3 seems to fit my needs but I have a few questions first.
1) Root is must. While I know the phone can be rooted, I'm worried about updates afterward. I'm fine with a stock ROM but I need to know that after I root I can still update Android, bug fixes, radios, new features. Can this be done and if so how (only a very basic description is needed, not a guide lol). I've read the the bootloader can not be unlocked so what are limitations associted with that?
2) Will Android "L" and it's ART only runtime work on this phone? If so, I guess that relates to my question #1 if I'm already rooted.
3) Actually, that's really it. The phone looks amazing and I'm ok with it "only" being a snapdragon 801 with the 805 and beyond right around the corner but I need to know that if I root, I'll be able to easily flash new updates as they become available.
Now that the phone is in the wild in the US, are there any clearer answers to my questions? Thank You.
Hi, first of all I would like to say the phone is great, it seems to get some negative comments here but since I got one I have been very happy with my first LG handset.
Ok we'll you can't get ota's after rooting, I haven't received any official updates yet so I'm not sure if we can just full uproot with supersu to get the it a again or not. But flashing a stock firmware is a pretty simple procedure and the kind folks here at xda keep us up to date with all the stock firmware so you can update and then reroot.
ART will run on this phone no problem at all however it seems android L may break root so if root is a must you may be best advised to look into you're updates before hand, which is another advantage of getting you're stock rom's at xda. Would be pretty frustrating to agree to a ota and find out you can no longer root when it's done.
But in short, root is fine on 'nearly' all he variants and flashing stock fw manually is not to much fuss.
Hope that helps you a little.
557953 said:
Hi, first of all I would like to say the phone is great, it seems to get some negative comments here but since I got one I have been very happy with my first LG handset.
Ok we'll you can't get ota's after rooting, I haven't received any official updates yet so I'm not sure if we can just full uproot with supersu to get the it a again or not. But flashing a stock firmware is a pretty simple procedure and the kind folks here at xda keep us up to date with all the stock firmware so you can update and then reroot.
ART will run on this phone no problem at all however it seems android L may break root so if root is a must you may be best advised to look into you're updates before hand, which is another advantage of getting you're stock rom's at xda. Would be pretty frustrating to agree to a ota and find out you can no longer root when it's done.
But in short, root is fine on 'nearly' all he variants and flashing stock fw manually is not to much fuss.
Hope that helps you a little.
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It does help a bit. Thank you but I need to have this clear in my head. With HTC, in order to update radios, you needed s-off, which was more than just root. That's what I'm hesitant about here, if I root, and want an update the g3, I have to unroot, update and re root? What if the update prevents root? I don't want to be stuck with a choice of updating or keeping root on a phone that won't be able to stay updated with the latest version and patches of software.
Really, knowing that I'll be able to root, and update firmware, radios and software throughout the life of the phone is the only thing holding me back from an LG G3 or waiting for the note 4 and a probably larger development base. I'd prefer the G3 so I hope it can be assured.
flyhighx said:
It does help a bit. Thank you but I need to have this clear in my head. With HTC, in order to update radios, you needed s-off, which was more than just root. That's what I'm hesitant about here, if I root, and want an update the g3, I have to unroot, update and re root? What if the update prevents root? I don't want to be stuck with a choice of updating or keeping root on a phone that won't be able to stay updated with the latest version and patches of software.
Really, knowing that I'll be able to root, and update firmware, radios and software throughout the life of the phone is the only thing holding me back from an LG G3 or waiting for the note 4 and a probably larger development base. I'd prefer the G3 so I hope it can be assured.
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If you're into rooting and flashing custom rooms I would seriously avoid this phone and wait for note 4. Trust me when you get your hands on this phone the first thing you want to do is get rid of the lag. It seriously lags worse then S5. I'm a HTC fan and found the lag really annoying constantly using task manager which I hate doing.
So if you are a rooter and love to flash roms don't buy.
riz157 said:
If you're into rooting and flashing custom rooms I would seriously avoid this phone and wait for note 4. Trust me when you get your hands on this phone the first thing you want to do is get rid of the lag. It seriously lags worse then S5. I'm a HTC fan and found the lag really annoying constantly using task manager which I hate doing.
So if you are a rooter and love to flash roms don't buy.
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its funny you say that. I looked at the phone today. First thing I thought of when I looked at it was touchwiz. The UI just seemed very laggy. Maybe after all the hype I was just expecting a bit more. Nice phone but didn't "wow" me.
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I'm coming from the s4 and s3 prior to that. I have looked into every phone and leak there is but decided the G3 was the right fit.
I got my G3 early Thursday from AT&T and I have no complaints thus far. I do notice slight lag from time to time but if you're on XDA and are use to custom slimmed down ROMs then yes, you'll kind of notice it. But trust me, it is far from a deal breaker.
Here's the thing, in a few weeks there will be numerous ROM's that have stripped away the bloatware and added a few tweaks and the lag will be non existent. I already have my phone rooted and have deleted most of the bloatware and added UI tweaks. I barely notice lag and I'm actually enjoying the UI.
This is just my 2 cents. And being loyal Samsung customer for years I can honestly say I prefer LG 's new UI over touchwiz any day.
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crazyagg said:
I'm coming from the s4 and s3 prior to that. I have looked into every phone and leak there is but decided the G3 was the right fit.
I got my G3 early Thursday from AT&T and I have no complaints thus far. I do notice slight lag from time to time but if you're on XDA and are use to custom slimmed down ROMs then yes, you'll kind of notice it. But trust me, it is far from a deal breaker.
Here's the thing, in a few weeks there will be numerous ROM's that have stripped away the bloatware and added a few tweaks and the lag will be non existent. I already have my phone rooted and have deleted most of the bloatware and added UI tweaks. I barely notice lag and I'm actually enjoying the UI.
This is just my 2 cents. And being loyal Samsung customer for years I can honestly say I prefer LG 's new UI over touchwiz any day.
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Mind sharing what you did? I'm coming from a note 2 and n5 and this lag is driving me nuts!
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Kreateablaze said:
Mind sharing what you did? I'm coming from a note 2 and n5 and this lag is driving me nuts!
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I rooted with ioroot, deleted all useless apps and froze others that I don't use with titanium backup.
I still have some lag but nothing that is driving me crazy by any means. The only time it lagged for me was when I used the LG health screen and I think the photo gallery. I turned off the health screen and I've always use QuickPic instead of stock gallery. Most my lag is gone but not all.
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https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/487866199737634816/photo/1
Everyone is going to have there own opinions
i am a note2/note3 owner that now has the LG G3 the note 3 was the worst phone i have ever owned. So far am liking the LG G3 root will come shortly.
JustusIV said:
https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/487866199737634816/photo/1
Everyone is going to have there own opinions
i am a note2/note3 owner that now has the LG G3 the note 3 was the worst phone i have ever owned. So far am liking the LG G3 root will come shortly.
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How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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Big Dawg 23 said:
How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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I believe that has to do with software OIS from within the camera app options. You can turn this off
Big Dawg 23 said:
How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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I have a little girl and did not get one photo I was happy with. Worst phone ever!
In addition it was the first time I couldn't run aosp

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