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Question for the Droid Incredible XDA Community

Hello everyone, I'd like to start this out by saying that I hope to not get flamed with this post. I do not own an Incredible (however I have played with MANY roms over the past two years with my various Android Phones). That being said, I've got a very... Well known client (public figure) who uses an Incredible. He has had *nothing* but trouble with it, especially since after the Gingerbread update (low storage space issues, needed to restore phone more than once, etc etc).
He is talking about getting an iPhone, but I would like him to get the "pure" Android experience before he makes a definitive decision. Essentially, he is tired of all the bugs and wants something that "just works".
My question to you guys:
Without me having to go through countless pages upon pages of posts, what in your guys' opinion is the best "stock" (whether that be CM7 or AOSP ROM) for the Incredible? What bugs (there area always bugs in ROMS right?) should I expect from the ROM and what should I notify him of in advance?
At this point in time, i'd say anything is better than stock gingerbread with HTC bloat that screws everything up constantly.
I just really need to make sure I put a solid ROM on his phone so that A) He will be happy and B) I will not be discredited on the air to hundreds of thousands of listeners.
Again, i'm not looking to be flamed for "not searching". I run a business, I do not have time to go through every single AOSP/CM thread to see every minute bug that is reported. Also, since this is not my phone, and he is a very busy person, I will have limited time to get this "right". I am just merely looking for your recommendations and experiences.
Thank you in advance everyone!

CM7 if you want a full pure android experience. If you want Sense, try one of the stock Sense roms that gets updated (Not mine. My inc died ) like Stock+ or McSense. Best of luck with your client! Don't let him switch to an iphone lol
Very few bugs (If any) on these. I can provide links if needed

dmeadows013 said:
CM7 if you want a full pure android experience. If you want Sense, try one of the stock Sense roms that gets updated (Not mine. My inc died ) like Stock+ or McSense. Best of luck with your client! Don't let him switch to an iphone lol
Very few bugs (If any) on these. I can provide links if needed
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Excellent thank you. I was leaning towards getting away from Sense entirely (AOSP or CM7) because he is absolutely sick of the way HTC has treated his stock incredible. All of these bugs are simply inexcusable. I know that the versions of Sense here on XDA most likely do not get the low storage issue... But i'd rather get him on pure Google. Them upgrade him to ICS when that hits

CM7.1, definitely. Mine's stable as a rock. It's a lot more stable than ANYTHING I've messed with on it, including stock.
I'd recommend putting CM7.1 on it until the Galaxy Nexus comes out, then convince the client that they need it.

jtcarnes said:
CM7.1, definitely. Mine's stable as a rock. It's a lot more stable than ANYTHING I've messed with on it, including stock.
I'd recommend putting CM7.1 on it until the Galaxy Nexus comes out, then convince the client that they need it.
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Oh believe me, i've already planted the Nexus seeds! Any major bugs with CM7.1?
I know previously on CM7 builds (not for the Incredible) i've had broken wifi at times, broken GPS, etc, etc. As long as this is "rock" solid like you say... I'd say that is the most viable option! Thanks man!

EmperorX said:
Oh believe me, i've already planted the Nexus seeds! Any major bugs with CM7.1?
I know previously on CM7 builds (not for the Incredible) i've had broken wifi at times, broken GPS, etc, etc. As long as this is "rock" solid like you say... I'd say that is the most viable option! Thanks man!
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No bugs that I know of. I only ran it for a couple of days though. The nightlies tend to fix any bugs, but may have bugs of their own.

Bugless Beast is an aosp alternative to CM. It still runs on nightlys but the latest build is like 99% working and is rock solid. Stock GB.
Wtf is an iPhone.
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Bugless Beast is the best AOSP option you can get. So smooth and fast. I haven't had any issues so far.
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Just wondering also, is there a solid MIUI build for the incredible? Just curious because I know that really impresses people as well lol!

CM7.1 is my vote. McSense if going the sense route.
I've not tried bugless beast yet simply because I love the ring lockscreen that the CM team cooked up. I also love the theme chooser that CM7 has.
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EmperorX said:
Just wondering also, is there a solid MIUI build for the incredible? Just curious because I know that really impresses people as well lol!
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Yeah. I personally don't like MIUI, but if you check their website, they have the latest build up. The last one I tried had a few minor bugs, but not bad. I'm sure they have been fixed though.

Cm 7.1. With the flashable adrenaline mod and incredikernel. Its been rock solid for me for almost a month.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

Root that thing and throw CM7 on it. They wont complain anymore. Ive been doing CM7 since it came out for the DInc and it has only gotten better. 7.1 is incredibly (pun intended) stable. And runs very smoothly. I think its probably more stable than stock. My DInc used to restart on its own all the time. I have not had that happen once with CM7. Battery life is great. With heavy texting, email, facebook, reddit usage. I get thru a day and usually have some juice left over. It can get to around 18% but still would last overnight if i forgot to plug it in, and still be at 18% in the morning!
Mine flies with CM7 and hasn't had any problems. My sister also has a DInc. She has been experiencing the low memory problem, I finally talked her into letting me root it and Rom it. CM7 is the way to go for a flawless experience. It is a little tidius to flash CWM and downgrade using ADB. It actually really inst necessary to downgrade and get s-off. I was able to install CWM on her phone and flash CM7 and gapps without a hitch. You have to use unrevoked 3.22 exe and do a custom recovery in administrator mode. (there is a write up somewhere here.)
after CWM was installed I flashed CM7. and it works great with s-on. The only time i think there would be a problem is if you wanted to flash an unsigned rom. but CM7 is signed so no biggy.
I will be sad to let my DInc go when I upgrade to either a galaxy nexus or a rezound in the next few months.
Good luck.

Use Bugless Beast if you want him to stay on Android, otherwise there is a highly underrated ROM called IncDeck 1.3... It's probably on the second page of the forums but that is the single best pure google ROM. The reason no one posts anything to the forum is because they have no issues to speak of lol.
Edit: I typed this from my droid 2... but I got it on friday lol. I'm not just talking out of my ass.
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Excellent thank you for the suggestions everyone! I have to say, the Incredible userbase is much more friendly and forthcoming than many others I have encountered here on XDA (coughSamsungDevicescough)!
As of right now, I am leaning towards Bugless Beast, as I really want him to be impressed by the speed. Also, since he wants things to "just work" I think the less options (like those extras presented in CM7) the better.
Should I worry about the rooting process for the Incredible with the Gingerbread update? Do I need to downgrade firmware, etc?
Also, I know right now he is using stock Verizon VVM... Is that an issue to get working on this?... I may try to convert him to Google Voice if that is the case.
Thanks again, you guys rock!

I would possibly suggest using the ext4 no limit mod as you had said he was getting the storage full message.
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pete_kowalski83 said:
I would possibly suggest using the ext4 no limit mod as you had said he was getting the storage full message.
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I was hoping that would be resolved by getting off of stock gingerbread alone? I've met numerous people with this issue... Even though their phones have HUGE amounts of free space, the Incredible reports that their storage is full. This results in FC's getting no emails etc. I've tied it to the HTC mail app, the Peep app, and a few other programs. If you clear cache/data it is a temp fix but then it will occur again at some point, much to their frustration.

EmperorX said:
Excellent thank you for the suggestions everyone! I have to say, the Incredible userbase is much more friendly and forthcoming than many others I have encountered here on XDA (coughSamsungDevicescough)!
As of right now, I am leaning towards Bugless Beast, as I really want him to be impressed by the speed. Also, since he wants things to "just work" I think the less options (like those extras presented in CM7) the better.
Should I worry about the rooting process for the Incredible with the Gingerbread update? Do I need to downgrade firmware, etc?
Also, I know right now he is using stock Verizon VVM... Is that an issue to get working on this?... I may try to convert him to Google Voice if that is the case.
Thanks again, you guys rock!
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People have had success downgrading to 2.2 with THIS.
As for VVM, I'm not quite sure if it works on AOSP so it may be better to put him onto Google Voice. It's free and it is much easier to use.
pete_kowalski83 said:
I would possibly suggest using the ext4 no limit mod as you had said he was getting the storage full message.
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The full storage error is what many Inc users that updated to the GB 2.3.4 update faced. That particular update screwed up a lot of peoples phones but after rooting and flashing a different ROM, he should be fine.

One final issue i've had... This client has always saved his contacts as "phone contacts" rather than "google contacts". Does anyone know of an app that will batch upload them to Google?

EmperorX said:
One final issue i've had... This client has always saved his contacts as "phone contacts" rather than "google contacts". Does anyone know of an app that will batch upload them to Google?
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Use Backup Assistant and backup all their contacts then login to MyVerizon and export contacts to a csv file. From there you can import then into your Google account.
I made that mistake when first rooting my phone. Never again...lol

Sorry but I may be leaving the root community for good

I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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On ParanoidAndroid 2.54 + franco.kernel r300. None of the problems you mentioned are present or has ever happened with me. Perhaps if you didn't mod your phone so much as to NOT be able to pinpoint a problem is where you went wrong.
Who knows? I surely don't. Don't know you but I don't think I'll be noticing your absence. Good luck with everything!

automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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Thats cool, you already tried your fair share of roms, if none of them worked for you the stock is the best with unsurpassed stability. Despite whats advertised about the nexus, the stock android firmware is excellent too, specially when you want something that just plain works.
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Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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Keep coming..it works if you work it
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goodbye person ive never seen post before. hope you figure out your problems

Stock is the way to go, but you don't have to leave the xda because you no longer run a custom ROM. there is a lot of useful information that is shared here that doesn't necessarily apply to custom ROM.
I am also running stock rom from now on.
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automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I hope you really didn't write all of this from your nexus lol. But just go to stock...simple :thumbup:
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I see how you feel abouyt this. I have had issues as well. It really stems from what Roms are and what we expect from them. The term Night lies have lost a little bit of its worry recently because they are fairly bug free. But that doesn't mean that little tweaks and mods aren't killing battery life and deteriorate over time due to bad patches and coding.
That said I would highly recommend checking out BuglessBeast. They are not night lies by any means. They are highly stable AOSP Roms that perform much better then anything else on the market. He has few commits aside from under the hood tweaks. Reboot menu, emoji and a slight few other things are it. I have never had an issue with them and recommend checking them out. Also they are pretty much the only VZW app compatible ROM. Peter has been building BuglessBeast since Eclair on the Droid1 (almost 3 years now). Always providing an excellent experience.

spjetrovic said:
Keep coming..it works if you work it
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Flashaholics anonymous?
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Stock + root is the way to go for me on Nexus phones. On my last non Nexus (SGS3) I was always flashing new roms trying to look for something that just works, but I am tired of it. On my Nexus S and GNexus, stock rom is amazing, I don't need anything else.

automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.

This phone runs very well with Stock+Root. I normally root devices because of different apps I like to use, and the ability to make custom backups...but I dont normally try anything bleeding edge...lol.
Partly because of my experience on an HTC phone...hated Sense and bought the GNex because of the AOSP.

akira02rex said:
I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.
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No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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negrobembon said:
No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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No I get that, it's good to see support for older devices but c'mon have you counted the amount of 4.1.2 roms that are available for the gnex? If I build android I'm automatically called a developer? Because that's the way it seems here...

I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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Soldier 2.0 said:
I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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its the kernels that offer the colors(the kernels that the ROM developers include too). of all the kernels available, only a very few distinguish themselves from the stock crappy colors.

This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my...
Blah blah blah.....
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No, please stay! We'll never survive without you! [/SARCASM]

GhoXt said:
This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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Alright Captain, you keep Franco deep in your throat.
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To root, or not to root. Solos' Long journey to finding his fate.

Yeah pretty much sums it up. I rooted my first note 2 everything was fine then all of a sudden i installed a kernel and it would take 12 hours to charge to full from fulll empty. and about 15 min to even turn on. ever since then i cracked the screen and got a replacement. kinda liking it stock. but kinda wana root it again. only thing stopping me is that i dont want anything to happen to this phone. I DUNNO WHAT TO DO. any suggestions?

I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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janjannsen99 said:
I don't understand why you people think root access on a phone is some big mystical journey that must be deeply considered before undertaking on ' the path' . It's one click and it's done. Another click and it's gone. What's the big deal.
Please close this thread. Man. What in the world....
Edit. In fact you need an I phone so that you don't have to ponder these 'monumental' decisions anymore....pfft. please. I think this is a troll.
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Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.

Solos92 said:
Its just i messed up my phone last time "i think" unless it was just a manufacturers defect. just wanted to know any tips people might have so it might not happen again. No need to be a douchebag.
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Whether or not you should root your phone is completely up to you. If you like stock, leave it stock. You don't have to go around flashing new kernels or ROMs if you're satisfied with stock. I rooted it because I wanted tethering and unlimited multiwindows... I have the stock kernel and stock ROM but deodexed with a few mods that I like. There are a ton of awesome ROMs out there but I'm not trying to win a popularity/nerd contest as to who can make the most changes to their phones. Make your phone the way you want it and what you want out of it.
Pretty much what i'm saying is are you happy with your phone right now? what would you change about it and is it possible to do this easily?

I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I thought about rooting also, but I'm happy with it stock and have no issues what so ever. This is the first and only phone I've not rooted. There's always a downside to rooting, whether it be updating, bugs, whatever. I'm enjoying my phone as is with apps I don't like simply disabled.
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I felt the same way. .till I rooted and flashed jedi x!!!! Sooooo much better. ... I'm so happy with my phone now
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ONLY ROOT!
Hands Down. You Have To Root.
AOKP, CMX.1, AOSP LiquidSmooth Are All Available Now.
Good Luck.

It's just that you're thread doesn't say anything. I mean it's like asking if the sky is light blue or kinda blue. I mean you could have at least had a halfway good question....bah I'm not even going any further. I quit
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I personally don't see enough evidence for trolling but I think it was the literary license you took with "Solos' Long journey to finding his fate" that raised the troll alert for some. Had you merely titled it "To root, or not to root" you may have had less suspicions (but who am I to tell you how to express yourself.. some of us tend to be more or less tolerant than others & I found value in your thread)..
You may want to check out my thread as I too was exploring the "to root, or not root" debate given how remarkable the Note2 is. As I mentioned there I honestly am very happy with the all the customization available in Go Launcher over stock TW & so far satisfied with the battery life which prompted the need debate but I also think I should be able to tether wirelessly with my data allotment on occasion & check out Titanium backup & all Avast options that require root so I will likely root-update this weekend as I want zero downtime during the week. I do appreciate the stability I'm currently experiencing so if that becomes compromised I am trusting posters here that its full unroot option would enable easy reversibility. I also currently have Monthly4G™ Handset Protection but hopefully I won't ever have to use it. -Peace

Xda app very slow

Is it just me, or is the app very slow
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I hate to say it but... Its most likely just you. Well by that I mean it could be your current set up or something even with whatever ROM or kernel or god knows what minor detail is detail is causing things to run slow for you... I like to think that through all of the rooting, unlocking, flashing, and modding I've done to a very large variety of many different android tablets and phones for some time now, that I have become more knowledgeable about so many things regarding android....but the only thing I can say for sure is that no matter how you go about your mods or upgrades, no methods are fool proof and it always comes back to the fact that even if your running the same ROM on the same device as another user, no 2 people will consistently have the same experience in the end. That might be one of the truest things some said to me on xda ever. Because there are too many elements or variables at play with this stuff.
So my advice would be to switch things up on your device and even wipe it and do a fresh install of things just to see if it helps. I run the xda app and the tapatalk app almost every day on a lot of different devices and I've never noticed it being even a little slow regardless of what I was using to run it. But again that's just my experience so I could be wrong in some way. Gdluck.
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onenonlycasper said:
I hate to say it but... Its most likely just you. Well by that I mean it could be your current set up or something even with whatever ROM or kernel or god knows what minor detail is detail is causing things to run slow for you... I like to think that through all of the rooting, unlocking, flashing, and modding I've done to a very large variety of many different android tablets and phones for some time now, that I have become more knowledgeable about so many things regarding android....but the only thing I can say for sure is that no matter how you go about your mods or upgrades, no methods are fool proof and it always comes back to the fact that even if your running the same ROM on the same device as another user, no 2 people will consistently have the same experience in the end. That might be one of the truest things some said to me on xda ever. Because there are too many elements or variables at play with this stuff.
So my advice would be to switch things up on your device and even wipe it and do a fresh install of things just to see if it helps. I run the xda app and the tapatalk app almost every day on a lot of different devices and I've never noticed it being even a little slow regardless of what I was using to run it. But again that's just my experience so I could be wrong in some way. Gdluck.
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Thanks, but cba to reinstall 100+ apps.
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She has said it, And you said it again.

It's only slow by loading many pictures for me.

I have recently switched to the Tapatalk 4 Beta and it works like a charm
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Wanted: A solid KitKat ROM w/o all the bugs

I am trying to cut out all the hit and miss of picking blindly here., so please bear with me.
I am looking for a solid KitKat ROM that's not all buggy. Something fairly vanilla would be fine as I customize my setup (Xposed and such). I have tried to read through the various ROM threads but only end up with a headache with all the various issues posted by folks; I do understand that it may just be that one person having an issue but then again... it may not.
So, what ROMs have you all used that were solid and did not have to babysit 24/7 to make it work?

I've been using Sphinx rom for the longest time. It's a stock based rom. It gives me the best battery life of any rom I have every flashed on my g pro.
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Trotter516 said:
I am trying to cut out all the hit and miss of picking blindly here., so please bear with me.
I am looking for a solid KitKat ROM that's not all buggy. Something fairly vanilla would be fine as I customize my setup (Xposed and such). I have tried to read through the various ROM threads but only end up with a headache with all the various issues posted by folks; I do understand that it may just be that one person having an issue but then again... it may not.
So, what ROMs have you all used that were solid and did not have to babysit 24/7 to make it work?
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Flash back to stock jelly bean 4.1.2 the 10k version, flash custom jellybean kernal then install xposed or whatever i get a solid 2 days easy with atleast 4 hours screen time per charge.

Give PACE a shot, that stuff was solid for DAYSSS for me.
Everything else is always hit or miss for me.

PAC-ROM because three is better than one
Waka waka waka...
Btw, I want to win the lottery too, but it's about the same odd as getting a bug free ROM.

hawkwind212 said:
Btw, I want to win the lottery too, but it's about the same odd as getting a bug free ROM.
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LOL. I hear ya. I can settle for "non-infested" if need be.

i hope the devs wont give up on our device, hahah
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