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[Q] Help with 3D Drivers

Hi guys!!!
Im older user from HTC mobile, now I buy a new phone more chip, and won a new problems!
Srs., I've looking for features about my mobile (it is Motorola SPICE XT300), and this model only sell in Brazil / Canada / Argentina / Australia (i guess).
Looking in the website (gsmarena) I found the features about my phone, and its is the same about the Wildfire. look:
Android OS, v2.1 (Eclair)
CPU 528 MHz ARM 11 processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm MSM7225 chipset
So i heard about this model dont have a drivers for this chipset, cause i dont know, but motorola dont make this drivers. So i hear some people try porting other driver from this chipset in this model but its very very dificult found news about this. I have some helps from neopeek and other forums, here too, about porting this drivers.
So, this driver i guess stay in /system/lib/****.so - my question is, somebody knows how install the 3D driver for this chipset? If i download a CUSTOM ROM here, try to copy/paste in the same location those files could work? Please guys help me, I dont wanna lose my phone but dont wanna use without graphics (by the way its f**king bad do anything, its slow any apps who needs).
So any news about this? anything? some developer could help me? any one?
Thx guys, c ya ...

gsmarena has the specs of the wildfire wrong, it doesn't have a gpu

Pdadb should be better. If you have the msm 7225 then there is no gpu. The best way to check is run nenamark. If it gets 1fps then there is no gpu. If it gets 30-60 fps then there is a gpu
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Oh and this should not be in the android dev fourm
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brilldoctor said:
Pdadb should be better. If you have the msm 7225 then there is no gpu. The best way to check is run nenamark. If it gets 1fps then there is no gpu. If it gets 30-60 fps then there is a gpu
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i dont understand. some wildfire has gpu, some not? i remember then i tryed to run ps1 games in ps1 emulator, it showed me about 30 fps, but was running like 1fps, couldnt even play.

vilks said:
i dont understand. some wildfire has gpu, some not? i remember then i tryed to run ps1 games in ps1 emulator, it showed me about 30 fps, but was running like 1fps, couldnt even play.
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No. Qualcomm MSM7225 does not support / have a GPU.

this mob is ****, so laggy. im very disapointed that i bought it :}

vilks said:
this mob is ****, so laggy. im very disapointed that i bought it :}
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this was well known from the start. next time read the information that is available EVERYWHERE before buying it!
Nevertheless, the Wildfire is still a great phone, I'm loving it! Never regret it for a minute.

ramdroid77 said:
this was well known from the start. next time read the information that is available EVERYWHERE before buying it!
Nevertheless, the Wildfire is still a great phone, I'm loving it! Never regret it for a minute.
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+1 for that
It's a great phone athough it doesnt have GPU. And i dont know what people expect for such a low price...lol I think there is no better phone for that money.

The ZTE Blade is a better option now however before that was released the Wildfire was very good value.

ben1066 said:
The ZTE Blade is a better option now however before that was released the Wildfire was very good value.
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Seconded. At today's price point, there are much better phones than the Wildfire out there. But, ~6 months back, really, Wildfire was the only option if you wanted a budget Android, which is why, I am a bit disillusioned, but will continue to faithfully stick with my Wildfire.

I agree that now there are better phones in that price range. But look at the time when wildfire is released, almost a year ago and still it can compete. You must agree that even few months is relatively big period not to mention a whole year.
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Good value? Yeah, maybe the first days of release, but it didn't take long for alot more valuable phones came along. All HTC phones is overpriced, and now with locked bootloaders, useless. Only reason I got it was becouse, at the time, it was the cheapest with a LED flashlight. If I only waited for the Defy instead, same price-range, but oh so much better phone on ALL fronts.

Ok guys! but the question its not about the wildfire, its is about this Motorola Spice..
So ok, i learn the Wildfire dont have gpu ok ...
So somebody have the nenamark.apk to install ? I just found the .zip file and I dont know how to install this on mobile.
I gonna make the test with this bench, cause if i got more then 1fps i have a gpu .. if not, i dont have and i guess this thread is closed.
Any one know something about this specific model? C ya.

GTA III lag alot, why?

hi, i just installed GTA III on my arc L15i, lags like hell, searched for fixes and installed one, lag is little bit less but still lags, tried overclocking cpu to 1.4 but still lags.
why?

Try V6 Supercharger and a couple of speed tweaks and see if the issue is still there.
My GTAIII is completely lag free.

GTAIII is litlle lagy..
My gtaiii lags when rain fall..but this is completly game for PC, not so much ported realy for PHONE...
only litlle modified..so be happy to run it anyway

electrash said:
GTAIII is litlle lagy..
My gtaiii lags when rain fall..but this is completly game for PC, not so much ported realy for PHONE...
only litlle modified..so be happy to run it anyway
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Really? Have you V6 Supercharger installed?
I don't notice any lag except I have to much MODs (since 90% of all PC' MODs works for Android too ) running.

yea supercharghed :/

Version 1.0 is run great but not lag free ,u still can notice some lag.
Version 1.2 is lag like hell.

Sorry guys, then I cant help you too.
Maybe because I've a Arc S, but that shouldn't matter if you overclock to 1,4 GHz.

I just found out it runs good on iPod Touch 4G AND IT HAS AN 800Mhz CPU, there is little little lag in it but still runs good, WWWHHHYYY!!!

Mesho Arc said:
I just found out it runs good on iPod Touch 4G AND IT HAS AN 800Mhz CPU, there is little little lag in it but still runs good, WWWHHHYYY!!!
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May be because iOS is better?
*Fled
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or we can wait for updated adreno driver in ICS.

I'm using SinMIUI ROM, Doomkernel for MIUI and it's perfect. I don't have any lags

tyrand3 said:
May be because iOS is better?
*Fled
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or we can wait for updated adreno driver in ICS.
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true, maybe iOS has different app build system
ZyxeLa said:
I'm using SinMIUI ROM, Doomkernel for MIUI and it's perfect. I don't have any lags
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today i was using that ROM but I didn't try the game on it.
I can't try it now, I'm settled with my current ROM.

Mesho Arc said:
I just found out it runs good on iPod Touch 4G AND IT HAS AN 800Mhz CPU, there is little little lag in it but still runs good, WWWHHHYYY!!!
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If they do the game for iOS they can optimize it much betterm as there are much less iOS devices than Android devices.
So it's more optimized for your iTouch than for your Arc.
Best GTA III experience do you get on the iPad 2. Believe me, buttery smooth.
But I don't game much, just bougt it to look at it and play a little sometimes.
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i have a rooted stock arc
don't find any lagging so far..as smooth as i used to play it on pc and ps3..

darth5zaft said:
i have a rooted stock arc
don't find any lagging so far..as smooth as i used to play it on pc and ps3..
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You have one hell of an arc.
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GTA 3 is a game made for a dualcore processor...
But on my Arc i don't have a lot of lag, using arconium5.6, doomkernel v15 @ 1.4ghz and supercharger v6...
You can also delete the audio folder, or just delete the radio only
To delete the radio only, go to the audio folder, sort by largest files, and then don't delete the largest, but delete the 11 or 9 ( not sure ) files following than

arneh1992 said:
GTA 3 is a game made for a dualcore processor...
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u sure about that mate???????
Grand Theft Auto III 10 Year Anniversary Edition is now available on:
• Android Phones: Galaxy Nexus, HTC Rezound, LG Optimus 2x, Motorola Atrix 4G, Motorola Droid X2, Motorola Droid Bionic, Motorola Photon 4G, Samsung Galaxy R, Samsung Galaxy S2, Sony Ericsson Xperia Play, T-Mobile G2x
as far as i know Xperia Play isn't a dual core processor..now thats a LOL.. xD

GAME ON said:
u sure about that mate???????
Grand Theft Auto III 10 Year Anniversary Edition is now available on:
• Android Phones: Galaxy Nexus, HTC Rezound, LG Optimus 2x, Motorola Atrix 4G, Motorola Droid X2, Motorola Droid Bionic, Motorola Photon 4G, Samsung Galaxy R, Samsung Galaxy S2, Sony Ericsson Xperia Play, T-Mobile G2x
as far as i know Xperia Play isn't a dual core processor..now thats a LOL.. xD
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The game is for Dual Core Phones, But it is also optimized to run on Xperia Play, and Only Xperia Play have Dual Channel Ram running @ 300mhz, that's why Playing games on Xplay is smoother than Arc or any 2011 Xperia out there

mhyke13ph said:
The game is for Dual Core Phones, But it is also optimized to run on Xperia Play, and Only Xperia Play have Dual Channel Ram running @ 300mhz, that's why Playing games on Xplay is smoother than Arc or any 2011 Xperia out there
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Okay, that's right, but every Arc or Arc S could play it quite smooth with some tweaks.
I'm not having any issue with stock GTAIII, and I've already seen a colleague with the SGS2 with more issues than me.
Future phones really need dual core processors, but imo current devices don't need it (I'm not talking about 2012 devices).
PS: I'm only posting my opinion, so don't come with some "you're a idiot" like in this very other thread.

Mesho Arc said:
You have one hell of an arc.
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thanks, but i guess the logical explaination is i fail to realised thats its laging
or maybe because i use link2sd for all my apps,kept ROM usage as low as posible..delete the catch often and kill all process before playing

Stock, no cpu changes, runs fine except when rain falls
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GTA and Tegra 3

Is GTA compatible with the one x?

AZanshin said:
Is GTA compatible with the one x?
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Yes it is, although it doesn't always run very smooth (not even after update 1.28). It's fairly playable though.

Yes but on my one x its laggy/choppy/frame drops With 1.26 and with the new ota 1.28

crucky said:
Yes but on my one x its laggy/choppy/frame drops With 1.26 and with the new ota 1.28
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will an update be applied at some point

I dont think the game itself is optimized for any phone yet..
I'd like to think that its just a throwntogetherpiece for their 10 year celebration or w/e it was.

Yes, works perfect here.
Make sure you use the correct version of GTA III guys.
I'm not experiencing any lag at all, could even say it's too fast/smooth.

McSic said:
Yes, works perfect here.
Make sure you use the correct version of GTA III guys.
I'm not experiencing any lag at all, could even say it's too fast/smooth.
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Where did u get one for Tegra 3 ? I didnt find a Tegra 3 version...
Maybe you downloaded a "Ultra performance version" for lower end phones?

sorry for digging up an oldish thread but for me as well it lags a lot, bit disappointed in this regard as i thought the phone would be able to run it no problem..

It seems the one x doesn't do well in performance with apps and games, its a real disappointment.

DANOFDANGER said:
It seems the one x doesn't do well in performance with apps and games, its a real disappointment.
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speak for yourself..mines running really good
just FYI tegra 3 is made to support modern game development..

DANOFDANGER said:
It seems the one x doesn't do well in performance with apps and games, its a real disappointment.
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Erm .... Dark Meadow THD
Best graphics on any mobile device... period.
There will always be apps that ain't optimized for a particular device, especially a device that is just a month old.
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Hmm, I got my copy through the TegraZone, however that's just the same as buying & downloading from the Play Store the usual way.
I know that HTC is aware of a problem with the initial drivers for the Tegra, the 1.28 update improves gaming a hell of a lot, I'm yet to receive 1.29, but supposedly that does too. There's a 1.3x update rumored soon, that should fix most problems with any phones right now.
Mine runs fine though, it's just Temple Run that's choppy right now
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[Q] Xperia Play

does n e 1 notice that the xperia play from sony ericsson is jus like all the other xperias but with a certified game pad. the xperia play doesnt have any better specs than most of the other xperias. most of them carry a cpu of 1ghz and a gpu of adreno 200.
What i expected from the xperia play when i 1st saw it was a gaming device a fast cpu like 1.4 dual core or atleast a 1ghz dual core and more ram and internal memory
when i compared my play to and ipod touch graphics to me the ipod won for graphics, i was so ashamed of sony ericsson and i think that the Xplay, for a gaming device should of been thought of a little bit more with the specs
whose with me on this???
and who thinks that sony should do what sony ericsson didn't and make a real XPERIA PLAY!!!

Well of course we hope they bring out a sequel. There already have been many threads on this. And seriously, the specs seem fine to me. We don't need dual core killing our batteries twice as fast

jacklebott said:
Well of course we hope they bring out a sequel. There already have been many threads on this. And seriously, the specs seem fine to me. We don't need dual core killing our batteries twice as fast
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aight i understand that but atleast the graphics could have been better, if i had bet my life that Xplay had better graphics than an ipod touch then i might have been dead right now

jacklebott said:
Well of course we hope they bring out a sequel. There already have been many threads on this. And seriously, the specs seem fine to me. We don't need dual core killing our batteries twice as fast
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It's funny you say that because the dual-core Qualcomm in my other phone drains less juice than the one in the Play.
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test

solomon4400 said:
test
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And what does the zram enabler do?

jgregoryj1 said:
And what does the zram enabler do?
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Its like virtual ram, it was called compcache back in the OG Droid days

216Monster said:
Its like virtual ram, it was called compcache back in the OG Droid days
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I remember compcache! what has changed besides the name?
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beez1717 said:
I remember compcache! what has changed besides the name?
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I think KeiranFTW and/or DooMLord could better answer what's been changed beside name. Maybe because zram is a little more accurate of a term .. I know compcache could have negative side effects, maybe its smarter now. But I'm not the best guy to answer, I just know what it is and does
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Thanks for the explanation. Now i get it!
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[Q] Lag and Game Support

Hi Guys,
I am planning to buy this phone in the coming months.
Couple of questions:
1. Is there any lag that you have experienced after installing a lot of apps because of the limited 512MB RAM? And my friend bought this device but it shows a total of only 384MB RAM, why is that?
2. How is the game performance of the Adreno 205 on this device. Does it support most of the games with good performance?
Asking these questions because i come from using Samsung Galaxy 3 (no GPU and 256MB RAM) and these were the two main problem areas for me. Do not want to repeat the same .

If I Remeber Correctly it has the same CPU\GPU as the Desire S\HD and they play the games pretty well. and regardless of the phone you WILL get lag when tons of crap is installed even if it's the ONE X or the S3. And it shows 384mb of ram because the rest is allocated to Android System. hope this has helped you

games in the category of shadowgun runs fine
nova3 and higher doesnt works
and for the ram issue u alrdy have got an answer
go for the phone i garantee ul nt repent

Games are running fine on this tiny phone . Well, not those beasts games that needs 1gb ram or Nvidia gpu's (if any) but the decent and good games are played well on One V. Buy the phone if you don't have other option because it is a fine one!

Lloir said:
If I Remeber Correctly it has the same CPU\GPU as the Desire S\HD and they play the games pretty well. and regardless of the phone you WILL get lag when tons of crap is installed even if it's the ONE X or the S3. And it shows 384mb of ram because the rest is allocated to Android System. hope this has helped you
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Thanks for your input .
Yup i am fully aware how Android runs apps. It's just that my current device had 130MB free storage on an average and all that gets used up with all the important apps. Even with those many apps the phone used to lag (it was OC'd to 1Ghz plus using the V6 supercharger mod). With a better phone i expect to be able to install a few more apps that i had to compromise on earlier and a few games. I was just making sure that my new phone doesn't frustrate me like my last one (it was the best mid-ranger of its time).
paarthdesai said:
games in the category of shadowgun runs fine
nova3 and higher doesnt works
and for the ram issue u alrdy have got an answer
go for the phone i garantee ul nt repent
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Thanks, will check them out (although I was not aware of these games before). My question though was more on the lines of compatibility. Because currently 90% of the games I browse show that they are incompatible with my device . I know the GPU is only a modest one and wont be able to run those FPS genre games very well. But how about those graphics heavy puzzle and arcade games (like Temple Run, World of Goo and Jelly Defense).
1ceb0x said:
Games are running fine on this tiny phone . Well, not those beasts games that needs 1gb ram or Nvidia gpu's (if any) but the decent and good games are played well on One V. Buy the phone if you don't have other option because it is a fine one!
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Thanks, I was actually thinking of Galaxy Ace 2. It has a much more impressive piece of hardware. But it does not have ICS out of the box, and Samsung are pretty bad with updates (don't wanna flash a ROM port the first day I buy the phone ). Plus the plastic body has no comparison to the sleek unibody design of the One V, really awesome to hold . Sense 4 is also a convincing argument towards One V.

temple run world of goo runs absolutely without any hitch
as i said bfre it nly doesnt suport high quailty 3d games
evrythng else is just finee buy this phone and join our one v group

i just looked at the specs of the ACE 2, and to be fair those are not bad specs...
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-V,Samsung-GALAXY-Ace-2/phones/6850,6940
you got a hard decision

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i just looked at the specs of the ACE 2, and to be fair those are not bad specs...
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-V,Samsung-GALAXY-Ace-2/phones/6850,6940
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remember ace2 lags when playing temple run
don't know about other games
my frnd has just 1game and it lags
idk if any update of the game has stopped it
think twice before you buy ace2
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paarthdesai said:
remember ace2 lags when playing temple run
don't know about other games
my frnd has just 1game and it lags
idk if any update of the game has stopped it
think twice before you buy ace2
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Surprising to hear that since the Ace2 has a Mali-400 GPU, which is in my opinion gives much better performance than the Adreno 205. It might be asking too much but could you compare notes with your friend on performance and overall usability of the two phones?

android_murphy said:
Surprising to hear that since the Ace2 has a Mali-400 GPU, which is in my opinion gives much better performance than the Adreno 205. It might be asking too much but could you compare notes with your friend on performance and overall usability of the two phones?
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my friend isn't into gaming that much he says it a waste of time to dwnld 5mb fr a game and i don't know if many background applications were running or no
it just lagged when i played mayb coz he just loaded tooo much of apps
atlest 50apss:banghead::thumbdown:
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paarthdesai said:
my friend isn't into gaming that much he says it a waste of time to dwnld 5mb fr a game and i don't know if many background applications were running or no
it just lagged when i played mayb coz he just loaded tooo much of apps
atlest 50apss:banghead::thumbdown:
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Hehe. Thanks for your input anyway . I guess my decision will only be made when i actually step foot into the market .

@paarthdesai By the way where did your friend buy the Galaxy Ace 2 from? As far as i can see online it has not been released in India and have only seen it's official launch in the UK.

android_murphy said:
@paarthdesai By the way where did your friend buy the Galaxy Ace 2 from? As far as i can see online it has not been released in India and have only seen it's official launch in the UK.
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there is a place in mumbai knwn as alfa
u get all the grey market stuff imported from the gilf country's
and u get a full seal pack at a very low cost
however u dnt get warranty
as it is u gonna avoid tht via rooting
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
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