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CAN ANYBODY GUIDE ME ON HOW TO INSTALL WM6 ON MY SE M600i
of course NOT!..
its like saying "can i LOAD PSP to my Gameboy Color"
double_ofour said:
of course NOT!..
its like saying "can i LOAD PSP to my Gameboy Color"
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lol lol
ravinbajaj said:
CAN ANYBODY GUIDE ME ON HOW TO INSTALL WM6 ON MY SE M600i
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You cannot put Windows Mobile to SE M600i, It is a diffrent OS platform.
hahahahaha
can I load the ROM from other type? like can I load a WM6 from an Atom to a XDA III?
That's about like asking my wife if I can have a sex change...
I really don't know whether to laugh or cry at your ignorance.
sorry for this silly question
I was considering if it's like PC OS that have almost the same core and can be modified before deploy to another station.
imnewer said:
sorry for this silly question
I was considering if it's like PC OS that have almost the same core and can be modified before deploy to another station.
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It could be possible like using the HTC Wizard rom for a Charmer... This has already been done... Still it's a silly question without having checked the inner hardware, etc.
So yes, this CAN be done... (if the hardware is not too different)
It is not like PC OS at all. I should probably send you to the WiKi but I do have a bit of time to burn so here is the explanation:
First, you can not load Windows Mobile on to devices with other OS. It would be the same as trying to run Windows on a Mac or Mac OS on a PC, the BIOS (or in our case bootloader) wouldn't support it, plus I am fairly sure there is some difference in processor architecture so it can't "understand" the code at all.
Second you can not change ROM between different Windows Mobile devices because unlike desktop PC Windows Mobile comes in an image bundled with drivers and other hardware specific components. Flashing the wrong image will brick the device, and there is no such thing as "generic" WM installation.
To conclude: You can not put WM on anything other that the devices that have official or unofficial update to this OS.
thank you so much guys for guide me a lot.
I knew that different devices might built in different architectures, but some of the devices use same series of cpu. and also did concern about different hardware need respective driver...but not aware of the encryption there might be...
thx for the explanation~
levenum said:
It is not like PC OS at all. I should probably send you to the WiKi but I do have a bit of time to burn so here is the explanation:
First, you can not load Windows Mobile on to devices with other OS. It would be the same as trying to run Windows on a Mac or Mac OS on a PC, the BIOS (or in our case bootloader) wouldn't support it, plus I am fairly sure there is some difference in processor architecture so it can't "understand" the code at all.
Second you can not change ROM between different Windows Mobile devices because unlike desktop PC Windows Mobile comes in an image bundled with drivers and other hardware specific components. Flashing the wrong image will brick the device, and there is no such thing as "generic" WM installation.
To conclude: You can not put WM on anything other that the devices that have official or unofficial update to this OS.
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have a look at the facts you can run windows xxxx on a imac and mac mini and you can run mac osx on a pc so it may be possible to run windows mobile on se m600
jim
HI-JET said:
have a look at the facts you can run windows xxxx on a imac and mac mini and you can run mac osx on a pc so it may be possible to run windows mobile on se m600
jim
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Well it may very well be possible, but not with the tools available to us or any other average joe.
masr1979 said:
Well it may very well be possible, but not with the tools available to us or any other average joe.
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go to link and read for you self how it done run oxs on a pc
http://www.osx86project.org/
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go to link and read for you self how it done run windows on imac and mac mini
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
jim
this thread has to be the dumbest one ive seen in awhile..
HI-JET said:
go to link and read for you self how it done run oxs on a pc
http://www.osx86project.org/
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go to link and read for you self how it done run windows on imac and mac mini
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
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I wasn't referring to osx on pc as I'm well aware of that. The question is can you direct me to a link where it shows some readily available hardware and software to port WM6 to a sony M600? not that I could do anything with the info, simply for arguments sake.
it becomes boring...Linux can be load on Xbox...just imagination, maybe there will be some way to load a WM rom within sort of hardward series...(like Dopod 828 & 838 & P800 are most the same series for TI cpu etc)...
Settle down, pleas I did not mean to start a debate.
When I was talking about Mac and PC I just wanted to use the older, Motorola processor based architecture as an example. (Forgot Macs use Intel these days).
Any way - Windows Mobile like any OS can be adopted to any platform - in theory, but the radical changes required are beyond the scope of private enthusiasts such as on this site.
Even if processor architecture is the same, you would at the very least have to rewrite all the drivers for the given device, and that is an enormous task.
it would most likely require access to the sourcecode (not something ms let you download being they hate opensoufce) and a team of developers to make new developing to support hardware they might not have any spcs on (not something sonyE hand out at the door)
depending one how much backward enginering would be required
1 man year of developer time
for each enuiqe platform
this is not counting the lawsuits from ms and or sonyE
and the man years of answering questions of people wanting to know if it works on their old nokia 3110
I cannot work out how to enable HSDPA on my commodore 64, could some one tell me if installing WM6 would help with this?
why doesn't anybody consider making a android based rom for the touch vogue? heck id even be up for a iphone cloned based rom, we need something different! the problem with most iphone themes are that they just mask windows, what we need is a true overall, complete system theme!
anybody up for the challenge?
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android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
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android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
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yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
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If it's so easy, why don't you do it
It's very difficult to do... nobody has figured out how yet.
i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
Android is linux...
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i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
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Let Me start of By saying you have a great idea.. you probably know that android was developed by Google, Microsoft's current largest competitor. Las Week Google Announced That Th Chromium Project is working out so greatly that they plan on makeing a full on desktop replacement operating system based on the linux kernel. Currently The Only Other Operating System Google Has Made Is andriod, No let me explain why this is hard to set up on our phones. The Manufactuer Prudoced a ROM with a windows CE bootloader using thwe files NK.exe. for the boot process, for more info on this process google windows CE boot process. however the entire process is difrent in linux. In linux instead of having NK (CE loader) as part of the windows OS we have a seprate program called a bootloader, the two mos common ones are the LILO or LInux LOader and the GRUB or GRand Unified Boot loader niter of wich anyone knows how to get the HTC phone to recoginse without an external windows CE aplication. Running The Application Is The Abutal Process Of The Bootloader, The COnfigration file is simalar to the windows XP boot.ini. esentialy your copy of android is just another application.
To ths date no one has be able to figure out how to create a rom that can edit the factory bootloadre to male it use GRUB or LILO, however if you wanted to chose one or the other i'd develop it to run a mobile version of GRUB bcause then you can dual boot windows mobile as if you were on a PC .
hope this answered your questions as to why an android ROM isn't out there yet.
Honestly, if there was a version of android and chrome i would switch all my devices over to Google Linux right now, i'm tired of the microsoft way of computing, paying another $150 every two to five years.
in theory you can have both andriod and iphone
android is open source, you should be able to use it as a base foundation and skin it with an iphone interface
Isn't it possible with the Desire HD's specs to make a Windows 7 port? It's more than capable. But I've heard of issues with drivers but it was still ported to HD2? And before anyone asks why would I make my phone "worse" or whatever, I'd like to give it a go, it looks really nice
Also before anyone asks why don't I buy/why didn't I buy a Windows Phone, I'm 14, my parents wouldn't be too keen on buying me another phone.
EDIT: In the poll it should actually say: "Windows Phone 7 SHOULD be ported to the Desire HD, and you want it to happen."
Id love to see this happen. It's not impossible to achieve, but is very very complex, especially regarding drivers etc. I don't think we will see this any time soon.
lewispb said:
Id love to see this happen. It's not impossible to achieve, but is very very complex, especially regarding drivers etc. I don't think we will see this any time soon.
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How long did it take to port to the HD2?
I'd also love to see it happen. Maybe WP7 is worse than Android, but we can't be sure without us trying it out first. Also take in consideration that WP7 has been just released, maybe it's been out in the US for a longer time. But here in the Netherlands it doesn't even have a Dutch version nor a Market released.
Anyway, it's hard indeed, but not impossible. Especially not considering that the DHD is cracked open to the bone. I'm not expert but that would mean that it is possible in theory that the pro's can make it if they want.
I'm up for trying it, I love the style of WP7. Maybe not everything is as good as Android, but the same can be said for iOS vs Android. Everything has it's charms, WP7 has a great interface in my opinion. Android has a great mod-ability, making it possible for devs to make Android great, but the stock Android ain't nothing special. iOS has a great app-store, which makes it powerful, but other than that iOS has nothing special to offer us in comparisson to Android.
guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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Couldn't you install a Windows based bootloader then?
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Couldn't you install a Windows based bootloader then?
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you could in theory yes, but what you propose is illegal (windows is closed source) and if all your after is the look and feel of WP7 try designing a theme and then i'm sure you could corrupt some systems files to reduce the stability of android
Hypothetically
I'm just wondering, - hypothetically of course - how would you go about changing the bootader to a windows based bootloader?
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I'm just wondering, - hypothetically of course - how would you go about changing the bootader to a windows based bootloader?
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I suspect, hypothetically or not, that there would be a lot of work involved in someone producing a windows Bootloader to flash instead of our normal android one, I don't see any devs putting in the work for free to allow installation of a pirated OS, you want WP7 buy a WP7 phone
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guys its got nothing to do with drivers ffs.. we have a lunux based device with a lunux based bootloader and a linux fs on the nand.. the hd2 has a windows based bootloader and a nand chip with a windows file system.... windows only does fat and ntfs, our nand uses the linux based ext file system...
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wait so then how does the HD2 do it? cause it is/was running windows 6.5 and now it has got WP7 (pirated) or android or both dual booting.
Hello Everybody !!!
First, I would like to apologize for my english... (Because I'm french ^^)
I have an Asus Vivo Tab Rt and I hate Windows RT !!!!!!
I would like to have an clear answer :
Is it possible to install android with the ARM processor ????
I've made many researches but I didn't find a precise answer...
BlueStacks, Linux + android ??
I am lost !!
Sorry, if there is already a discussion about this topic but I did not find it.
Thank you very much !!!! :good:
Didi
didi1292 said:
Hello Everybody !!!
First, I would like to apologize for my english... (Because I'm french ^^)
I have an Asus Vivo Tab Rt and I hate Windows RT !!!!!!
I would like to have an clear answer :
Is it possible to install android with the ARM processor ????
I've made many researches but I didn't find a precise answer...
BlueStacks, Linux + android ??
I am lost !!
Sorry, if there is already a discussion about this topic but I did not find it.
Thank you very much !!!! :good:
Didi
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Hey,
ASUS has made a full Android 4.2.2 version for the vivo tab rt available. Unfortunately there isn't a way to flash it onto the tablet because of secure boot etc. I've seen someone mentioning that an older uefi version was hackable.
So maybe if you put the old uefi version somehow back on there, you might be able to boot that android version.
I wish people didn't post stuff they can'i back up. If you don't know the answer don't post. Does anyone know if it can be done?
Insignificant said:
Hey,
ASUS has made a full Android 4.2.2 version for the vivo tab rt available. Unfortunately there isn't a way to flash it onto the tablet because of secure boot etc. I've seen someone mentioning that an older uefi version was hackable.
So maybe if you put the old uefi version somehow back on there, you might be able to boot that android version.
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http://www.wired.co.uk/article/micr...every-windows-10-installation-over-to-hackers
Microsoft Secure Boot Golden Key is online, is this the start of a new life for the VivoTab RT? :
Maybe someone will port it over.
The Android version of the VivoTab RT TF600T is ASUS Transformer Pad TF502T. On the Asus website the Kernel Code for Android 4.2.1 can still be found (http://www.asus.com/support/Download/28/1/0/17/32/).
Tegra3 - it looks good.
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Grub2 on my Asus Tf600tl. Unlocked Secure boot.
superfabek said:
Tegra3 - it looks good.
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Grub2 on my Asus Tf600tl. Unlocked Secure boot.
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Any update?
Has someone found the ASUS Transformer Pad TF502T Android rom? It would be very possible to dual boot Android and Windows with this device.
Hi everyone, any update on this subject ? Would be very interested in replacing Windows by an android ROM
Thanks for your ideas on the matter !
My friend has managed to install a ROM.. will get the update for you all.
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My friend has managed to install a ROM.. will get the update for you all.
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Well done !! I'm looking forward to know how your friend did it.
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Well done !! I'm looking forward to know how your friend did it.
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Oh my....
I'm really looking forwar too.
I own an Asus VivoTab RT Nvidia Tegra3
azoksky said:
My friend has managed to install a ROM.. will get the update for you all.
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Awesome work, I hope it's working for him
Bump.
any update ?!
Can someone asnwer about this topic about the option to unlock the bootloader. Have been dealing with the tab for more than 6 years already. Hate the windows rt.
I've restored the original windows 8 RT image on this tablet but is unuseless, I can't navigate, I can't use the store, I can't update, it returns always errors...must we trah it?
Have anyone RT 8.1, RT 8.1 still works with internet?
PS I'm not a new member but the registraion email was closed and I don't remeber the old password
Hello all Intel atom owners,
I am the owner of a device destine for the trash heap (e-waste sucks) but I'd like to save it from that fate. My device is a z2560 soc asus Trio TX201LA. Its tablet half is what has been deemed ewaste by asus & id like to save it from that fate. Windows 10 has also ended support for clovertrail now so that also SUCKS..
This thread is being started to talk about development on these devices that intel gave up on. Android is primary focus but I don't want to limit it to that cuz the soc can do more. I'd like to discuss the following:
1. How the device boots? In what order? What files are used? Variations per device? Similarities between asus & Dell and Samsung (3 largest intel atom inside device makers during 2011-2016)?
2. What tools are available to us to save our devices and in save I mean upgrade.5 tools Ive found that are so interesting are the following:
2A. Intel Manufacturing Flash Tool lite (For dual booting devices specifically?)
2B. Intel Platform Flash Tool Lite (For both atom & intels Edison devices): https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/flash-tool-lite-user-manual
2C. Intel xFSTK Downloader (rescue flasher, seems to be primarily for bay trail but also clovertrail)
2D. ASUS Flash Tool, not sure about this one, I bet its only for zenfone, have to check.
2E.. Flashall for Edison devices only, so useless for atom tablets: /docs/DOC-25154 https://communities.intel.com/docs/DOC-25154
4. I'd also like to look at droidboot ver 2.0 and 2.1, whats the difference? It seems droidboot is intel and is intel own way of getting android to boot. What is also interesting is that some devices running android 5 got an update that changed droidboot a lot. So much so that it has a uefi partition (dell venue 7, asus memo pad 7 & maybe others) & after that update boots android differently using what seems to be a more generic x86 android (like a pc image).
5. Intel DnX (download and execute) mode. This seems to be a product of Device updates beyond droidboot 2.1 and android 5.0. Id like to discuss if its possible to add DnX to devices that don't have it. It runs from an image off the main disk just like droidboot and even android. So the theory is it could be simply added to other images & devices?
6. Alternative OS options (Reference: https://communities.intel.com/thread/120652):
6A. Sailfish OS devices that are atom based such as the Geeksphone Revolution & Jolla Tablet have sailfishOS, but so do dual boot atom devices including CHUWI hiboot, Hi8, a bunch of Lenovo devices, to many to mention here.
6B. Ubuntu this is possible but only if clovertrail can gain either DNX, droidboot 2.1 or uefi (my theory) .
6C. Remix OS see: https://forum.xda-developers.com/remix/remix-os/release-remix-os-pc-32-bit-t3305916 Remix OS can be run on our devices but again only if we can gain droidboot 2.1, uefi & or DNX (again my theory)
6D. MultiROM for intel (unknown) see: https://www.xda-developers.com/install-use-multirom-xdatv/ There is also support for galaxy tab 3 10.1 a fellow z2560 soc device. So getting multirom support could be added for almost all z2560 devices via this support see: https://www.getdroidtips.com/dual-boot-galaxy-tab-3-10-1-dual-boot-patcher/
6E. Others including second stage bootloaders. Google that term and many come up.
Ok so that is about it. I did not include a lot of links here purposefully, almost every term I used here can be googled for the info I found. The x86 android devices are flexable and able to do more but have primarily not been developed for because intel sucked at advertising them, failed to get them into apple devices and killed them off early. So we are where we are but intel is also very open. There are so many tools to develop for this platform if you know and understand x86. I believe I could rebuild my entire tablet image using the Intel Manufacturing Flash Tool include the newer droidboot 2.1, dnx image, and a updated kernel and system image of android with my device specific drivers and be up and running to a point where I could then dual boot other OS's. I theorize that if you tried this and failed you could still use the Intel xFSTK Downloader to rescue the device completely. Yes I'm a noob & its why I want to learn more via this thread. Think this development is a waste of time, see: https://www.asus-zenfone.com/2015/07/asus-zenfone-2-running-windows-7.html
I'd love to see other intel owners join and discuss these ideas, grab your intel device dust it off and join me in experimenting.
Bumpy boompop shazam.. Hello Atoms not DEAD yEt.. https://www.pcworld.com/article/315...m-chip-in-panasonics-2189-android-tablet.html
Yep, I'm still working on trying to get unsigned stuff to work myself.
pcwizzy37 said:
Yep, I'm still working on trying to get unsigned stuff to work myself.
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Any progress? Its a shame such a great device is meant to die...
UPDATE. I found this topic.. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-contrib/t6AEhwaILUs
Interesting..
madhits45 said:
Any progress? Its a shame such a great device is meant to die...
UPDATE. I found this topic.. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-contrib/t6AEhwaILUs
Interesting..
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Nope, no progress, my backlight also got messed up pretty bad by a diode being defective and letting current pass both ways, so now I cannot change brightness, or else the screen turns off. But nope, still stuck.
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Nope, no progress, my backlight also got messed up pretty bad by a diode being defective and letting current pass both ways, so now I cannot change brightness, or else the screen turns off. But nope, still stuck.
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Bummer, What tablet do you have? I have a Asus TF201LA its also know as the transformer trio. The tablet half has android 4.2 and its basically useless, the screen of the tablet is shared with windows 10 dock which I am still using daily. The atom z2560 cpu in the tablet is still pretty fast with 2gb of ram, but no updates or i should say no unlock keeps it useless.
madhits45 said:
Bummer, What tablet do you have? I have a Asus TF201LA its also know as the transformer trio. The tablet half has android 4.2 and its basically useless, the screen of the tablet is shared with windows 10 dock which I am still using daily. The atom z2560 cpu in the tablet is still pretty fast with 2gb of ram, but no updates or i should say no unlock keeps it useless.
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I have an Acer Iconia One 7 (B1-730HD), which has the Z2560 as well, but a pitiful 1GB of RAM.
pcwizzy37 said:
I have an Acer Iconia One 7 (B1-730HD), which has the Z2560 as well, but a pitiful 1GB of RAM.
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VERY exciting info to come. I am working with a zenfone hacker who hopefully will help me adapt his bootloader unlock to my device. Ill update when I get something and document everything for you.
Keep us updated. I have a Asus VivoTab ME400c.
Any updates? I have an HP Elitepad 900 G1 with a Z2760.
I have ASUS Memo Pad 7 (K017) with atom Z2520, which is no calling edition with FE170CG...
I have found some new information and ideas for this.
https://docs.armbian.com/User-Guide_Getting-Started/#how-to-prepare-a-sd-card
http://www.linuxium.com.au/how-tos
I am trying to understand how you boot from droidboot to a SD card or via USB. I'm willing to try some of these because they do not evolve flashing a recovery which does not match mine. I also found a CWM recovery for the memo pad 10 FHD but whats the point without a new rom. If I can boot linux I could boot x86 android.
I have an acer w3-810 with some (fairly buggy) uefi firmware.
Since this is a windows device I've been able to disable secureboot and play around with unsigned uefi programs. If for some reason your device doesn't disabling secureboot, you might be able to change the variable in your firmware file via uefitool (popular in the bios modding / hackintosh community) and then reflash it if there's no signature checking pre-flash.
On the linux side I've basically gotten no where. The graphics module / kernel params should be set up similar to cedar trail (from my basic research clover is just a lowend version of cedar). But unfortunately that doesn't get me anywhere. Disabling uefi via the kernel param noefi or disabling uefi runtime services gets the display to spazz black and white lines. Going to try to compile a custom kernel later though and see if I can get preboot early efiframe buffers working for earlyprintk.
Interestingly the tablet (through some trickery (force it to boot to a non-present device)) will let you switch the graphics mode of operation between pci and agp