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Titanium Backup. Has anyone lost faith in it?

I'm hating it with a passion and I don't know if its something that I may be missing. I purchased the full version and use it to ''Backup Apps + Data'' since I know that backing up system data screws up your phone.
Everytime I switch ROMs I run ''restore apps + data'' and upon completion I run into a ton of force closes and terrible lag issues. I also notice that the lag happens when I'm browsing on 4g. (the force closes happen all the time with almost all the apps)
I end up downloading all my apps all over again and losing my achievements and progress in games. I beat Angry Birds in like 2 days and now I have to do it again.
By the way I always download the busybox in the problems link in titanium backup. I always wipe dalvik and factory reset in between ROMs.
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I only get problems when I restore system apps, If I just restore user apps there is no problem. dont restore system data, it will overwrite the good new stuff in the new rom you just flashed and frankenstein it into both the old and the new, hence yhe fc's

sounds like you're restoring something you shouldn't. Don't just do a batch restore, make sure that you're only restoring the apps you want.
Different roms work with different version of wireless tether, spare parts, etc. Just as ZJ mentioned, you restore something that a new rom changed and it could cause problems.

Also, be careful switching between Sense and AOSP Roms, even with just user apps. People have had problems with that. But going from AOSP rom to AOSP rom, I've never had a problem. (I have the paid version, and I switch back and forth constantly.)

I wouldn't say that I've lost faith in TB, but I have never really been a big fan of it. The only things I b/u with TB is Angry Birds, and bookmarks. Everything else I b/u to Astro, or just re-d/l from the market. I try to do a clean install from the market whenever switching ROMS to avoid any data issues.

I use it every time I do a rom to restore all my apps and certain system data. The green things are typically OK to restore to any LIKE rom (sense or ASOP)
Restore like sms messages, bluetooth, wireless, etc.
Don't restore the red stuff.

Ok I will try some of those suggestions.
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GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...

Does titanium not work well with an Apps2Sd?

SantinoInc said:
GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
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I'm very anal about my home screen and have it set up the same way regardless of what ROM I use. It's easy for me to remember because I prefer using 3 screens. I just notice lag when scrolling through my apps or random force closes on apps I use often. Like you mentioned before I only do a batch backup of installed apps and then I restore apps + data only (not system data).
The mistake I was probably making was having the restore overwrite the newer/existing versions of the same app that came with the ROM I just flashed.

I have noticed when I do a titanium full batch app & all data restore my emails will not auto sync. I have to open and refresh to get it to work.

[Q] Making the switch to Cyanogen for the first time - Few Questions

I'm just about to finally make the switch to Cyanogen after being on Sense ROMs ever since rooting. Not sure if I'm going to go with the latest alpha with wimax this weekend or wait a little longer for CM7. Before I do, I have a few questions.
1. When doing an app restore via titanium should I do an app restore only and not app+data?
2. When doing the app restore, can I do a batch restore of all of them or should I do them individually making sure I don't select any HTC apps? I'm worried that by restoring something like 'Weather' it will cause issues in cyanogen because it's an HTC app.
3. Is it best to use the built in multimedia apps in cyanogen over 3rd party apps or does it matter? For instance I have the paid version of Mixzing and love it. I'm assuming it will work without issues in cyanogen but worry that I'm missing some great cyanogen-only features by not using the built in music player.
Thanks in advance.

Welcome to CM. I made the switch for the first time a couple of weeks ago and haven't looked back.
I'm new to this myself but I'll tell you what I've learned. As far as titanium backup goes I usually install my apps separately just to be safe. I do just the apps and then the data. I haven't had an issue doing it this way. Your HTC apps will not work in a CM rom so I wouldn't suggest trying. That will cause issues. Your third party apps should work just fine. All of the ones I use work with no issues.
The guys in the official cm threads are great. They are normally willing to help just try to read through them first to see if your question may have been answered. Good luck man. If you need help just holla I'll help in anyway I can.
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AreWhyA_In said:
Welcome to CM. I made the switch for the first time a couple of weeks ago and haven't looked back.
I'm new to this myself but I'll tell you what I've learned. As far as titanium backup goes I usually install my apps separately just to be safe. I do just the apps and then the data. I haven't had an issue doing it this way. Your HTC apps will not work in a CM rom so I wouldn't suggest trying. That will cause issues. Your third party apps should work just fine. All of the ones I use work with no issues.
The guys in the official cm threads are great. They are normally willing to help just try to read through them first to see if your question may have been answered. Good luck man. If you need help just holla I'll help in anyway I can.
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Great thanks. One thing though, how do you know which apps are HTC ones? Not all of them show up in the app title. The Weather one is a perfect example.

m4rk0358 said:
Great thanks. One thing though, how do you know which apps are HTC ones? Not all of them show up in the app title. The Weather one is a perfect example.
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If you delete an app via titanium backup [which I use] most of the time when you delete it it'll show like htc blah blah blah.apk, so you can try that, or search for a list of stock htc apk files. I hope that helps.
Edit: Also, your Mixzing app will work, and you can have multiple music player apps, so you can experiment to see what you like. That also goes for other apps, like multiple theme viewers, browsers, ect.

Apps Uninstalling Themselves

I noticed that I've had several apps "uninstall" themselves.. all of them were on the SD card.
Seems to be a common bug among quite a few GB builds when I checked it out on Google.
Is there a way to disable "apps to sd"? I'm on the stock ROM, rooted.
I believe it would take a modified a2sd.sh script but I don't yet have the programming experience to feel comfortable altering it myself (I'm still on stock recovery so a nandroid backup isn't an option)
Should probably be a simple fix, any of you Dev's willing to chime in?
Also, anyone else noticed this happening to them?

i've seen that bug a few times, it's quite annoying, some how the OS just loses the installed info about the apps, and you have to re-install them for it to know it's still there

I am seeing this even on apps saved internally.
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Same here
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Just thought I should also point out this is not a hardware issue, it has happened to me on all my previous 3 android phones
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Everytime I install an app, I simply make sure I "move to phone" if it gets installed on the SD card
No problems since (yet..)

Are you using an aftermarket launcher or stock launcher? In any event not sure if it matters. I'm running CM7 alpha with Launcher Pro. It randomly happens to me, but I hold the back button on CM7 to force close Launcher Pro, and when it relaunches the apps are fully present. Try killing and restarting your launcher.

I've seen this as well - currently running Bombaridier 3.5 w/ Bullet...I've had this happen on different versions of the ROM, and it's kinda like AllGamer points out: app info seems to be lost, somehow - in my observation, after a reboot. However, if you go to manage your Applications, they'll still show as installed (well, mine do anyhow.) And yeah, reinstalling is no issue.
Restart the launcher? I will have to see about that - I'm running Go Launcher Ex on Bombaridier 3.5; if I see this (hopefully not) again, I will try that to see what happens. Thanks for the tip!

Which is the better kernel?

Faux or Bullet included with Juggs 4.1? If you have a preference, tell please me why...

I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.

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I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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Hi Funziebear, Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?

tri4life said:
You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.
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Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.

Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!

Rekzer said:
Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!
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Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?

FSUSeminole said:
Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.
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Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.

Which of the fauxs out used..I see 2.
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tri4life said:
Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.
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Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?

Im using the 006r and havent had an issue it runs quick and smooth and battery is so far better than bullets , i use my phone a lot so better battery is a must the way apps open so fast on this is just a plus for me
http://www.multiupload.com/TLFJTWDMNL
If adding this link isnt allowed lmk
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FSUSeminole said:
Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?
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Regarding the launcher, its all about simplicity for me. Adw is just as quick and go launcher ( in my opinion ). Also everything I needed adw takes care of. For the most part I would say they are equal competitors, but I just don't need all the extra options or features that Go Launcher provides. But yes I used Go Launcher Ex and even recommend it to my friends. Keep in mind you can do the same backup with it and restore just like ADW. Oh, but one difference I believe is that Go Launcher stores the backups in a separate file and folder as its app. So using titanium wont back that up. It will just stay on your sd card or internal. Doing the normal wipes to install a new ROM wont remove it, but of course a format will. Just a heads up, and also I haven't used Go Launcher in over a month so they probably pushed out a lot of updates and changed that feature.
About Titanium backup. You will have to have both the TBU.apk and the TBUpro.apk to install. The pro key is installed after, else you will have to wipe TB's cache from application settings. Also, if the ROM does not come with a file manager app on it by default then you will have to push with adb the .apks over. Also I think you can just copy/paste them into the app folder as well.
edit- again, I can give you my exact steps when I get home tonight. Just typing quite fast here at work.

FSUSeminole said:
Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
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Im using 0.0.7, its the one that comes with the rom Dewizzed. I think from 0.0.6 to 7 it just changes from a tmobile boot image to a custom one. I tried 0.0.6u with Beastmod, and it boot looped, im not sure if it had issues with beastmod or what, and ended up using DeWizzed as my rom after that instead which i think is 0.0.7r.
Im using the original modem, as im a Telus user(no wifi calling here).
I believe both kernels have most of the same features, Bullet may have more governors IIRC.
I just did a battery calibration starting yesterday actually and im at 20% after 1 day 14 hours. Not heavy usage, but i find while i use was using it there wasnt much drain.
And as i said, its SO smooth.

"I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium" ... Great idea.
I'm saving Titanium Backup (com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-1) and ROM Manager (com.koushikdutta.rommanager-1) in a folder so that I can reinstall them quick without having to log in and grab them from the Google Market. Good thinkin'

u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different

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u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different
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What he said. Each device is different. There is no best just best for you.
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Basic noob rooting questions

The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.

NGL_BrSH said:
The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.
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So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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MoHoGalore said:
So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.

NGL_BrSH said:
That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.
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I was waiting to see of anyone else was going to respond but since I'm going to call it a night, I'll throw my 2 cents in, then I'll wait for my change..
I had to ask about the "second" update since the only thing i know is this- The original roll out was paused, then when it started up again, small fixes were noticed. One being the Swype issue. Not big changes according to some.
So to answer your question about rooting to try apps, just use sfhubs one click for ff18. Clear the cache on Swype after that. Then try your apps..
I'd suggest reading up on backing up your data, etc, so when you notice that stock battery life, look and feel and all of that isn't different, and you want to go back, you can.
Or just save all of that trouble and root and flash the stock tweaked ics rom, with a custom kernal, and enjoy a stock, rooted, long lasting daily experience..
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Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
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The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
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First off, you're welcome. And if I say something off kilter about what you are wanting to do, believe me there will be people that say so. (Surprisingly, It's a quiet thread)
What you would refer to as an img in PC, Nandroid is what you would call it here. You can find out all about that with a very helpful guide [TUT] What Is Nandroid And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]
Be sure to use it if you're that dependent on your phone for work.
Speaking of which, if you don't have a backup plan for your phone, I'd hold off on puling that trigger until you have read all that you can.
Using Titanium Backup, as with any software, can fail. Be sure to know how to backup and restore and when and what you can restore. Don't go from ICS to GB and try without expecting issues. There are other apps as well, MybackupPro, astro file manager.. Just do your homework.
Having a nandroid is essential for me. If you rename the backup, do NOT put any spaces in the name. It's also a strong suggestion to verify md5 if you plan on moving and storing - Don't delete the original without verifying the copy with md5. Just search for a md5 checker.
If you do decide to flash, good luck. Ton's of smarter people than me here tat can help, just make a backup..

I've been reading my butt off here but I still don't have a grasp of the rooting.
When I root a phone doesn't it overwrite all my stuff? Then how would I be able to use Titanium Back up to back up all my previous stuff?
I bet I'll understand much better once I actually root it but like you said I'm trying to get a grasp of it all before I commit.

Rooting alone, no.
If you use sfhubs ff18, rooted, no data, you will not lose your current setup and data. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27635571
You'll just be rooted.
For TB I'll refer you to this - http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb
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