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[Q] Launcher keeps forgetting default, Market apps not automatically restoring

Hi Everyone,
Thanks for taking the time to look at my situation. I'm a new user and have been experimenting, trying a few different ROMs, loved the feel of cyanogenmod7 (b36) but couldn't hack the poor battery life (approx 5 hours light mod use with radio 26.04.02.17). I went back to LeeDrOid (installed v2.0 this time but have previously used 1.51 and got 24 hours battery on moderate use with the same radio). Once back at LeeDrOiD 2.0 I have the following two relatively minor but annoying issues.
1) On all my other ROM flashes android has somehow been able to detect apps I have downloaded from the market and installs them automatically. I've now wiped and flashed v2.0 3 times and it won't find or restore the my (40 odd) apps. Is this a common issue with this build? Is there a specific app or process that is responsible for restoring these apps that I can tinker with?
2) I use ADWLauncher for my home. The system keeps forgetting that I want to use it as default. It often works for about 2 or 3 uses of the home key (eg either to bring up previews, or to return to home screen from an app) and then asks me which program (ie launcher, ADWLauncher EX, even quick desk which I installed on one of the re wipes to try and see if other apps handled the home default better). I've tried clearing from setting>applications manager, and have reflashed but the fault keeps happening. Is this a common problem with this build, or is there something I am missing [most likely scenario].
Thanks in advance for any help your are able to give. The android community is an amazing thing.
Cheers,
Mike.

I was having a very similar issue with the apps not restoring after flashing a new rom. I live in a country where there are no paid apps available.. so i've been using MarketAccess. What i found is that when i forget to open MarketAccess and emulate a US sim BEFORE launching the market for the first time after a flash, my apps wont download. But when i do launch MarketAccess before launching the market, then all my apps download. So i've made it a habit now to install MarketAccess first thing after a fresh install of a new rom.
I don't know if you live in a country with paid apps though so my point may be totally irrelevant lol
As for your second concern about adw launcher... im not too sure about that. Maybe you have a task killer installed? If so that may be interfering. Uninstall that and see if it helps. You shouldnt really ne using task killers anyway. But again you might not have one so this point may be irrelevant too lol

Thanks for responding.
I'm in australia so we have the full Market apps store here. I haven't heard of market access before, is that a standard app our one specific to your zone? This problem only seems to be for this version 2 rom, and not the other roms I have flashed. Scratching head.
With the launcher, I haven't got a task killer installed. I use astro or the system task manager. It's very puzzling, the default setting will sick for a few times usually, then ask me again. Capricious little beasts, these phones
I do use juice defender though, do you think that could be cutting off the default sections while the system is in use? I'll give that a shot.
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Mate, you were on the right track. It was juice defender that was killing the home screen default. I sorted it out in the configure apps section by making it visible. Stupidly, I hadn't thought of jd as a task killer. Thanks for your help.
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Glad you sorted that out.

"Don't keep activities" - anybody use it?

Love the phone but a few times the launcher has redrawn after exiting an app because of most likely memory issues. Anybody using this option? Assuming over time this would keep more memory free and reduce this issue. Any thoughts?
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mobilehavoc said:
Love the phone but a few times the launcher has redrawn after exiting an app because of most likely memory issues. Anybody using this option? Assuming over time this would keep more memory free and reduce this issue. Any thoughts?
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This is one of the reasons why I don't like that Google included these developer options pre-installed on this phone. They're developer options for a reason, we can install them if we need to.
This feature is designed so that developers can test their app to be sure that data is properly saved when is no longer in the foreground. For example, if a user receives a phone call or jumps to another app, the app needs to do what is necessary to save it's data. At times, Android can kill a process in the background. If the user plans to go back (perhaps they finished the phone call), they want to see what it is they were working on last. The developer is supposed to handle this case by rebuilding everything as it was before (to provide that seamless experience for the user when switching between apps).
This debug feature helps us test that it works.
For the average user, all you're really more likely to do is slow down your apps. As they will have to rebuild themselves when you resume them, and you may even open yourself to more quirky bugs (for those apps that didn't properly test the above scenario).
So please don't enable it unless you're doing it for development purposes. My 2 cents.
*EDIT* Here's a page from the Android Dev Guide justifying my explanation:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/debugging/debugging-devtools.html
Immediately destroy activities
Tells the system to destroy an activity as soon as it is stopped (as if Android had to reclaim memory). This is very useful for testing the onSaveInstanceState(Bundle) / onCreate(android.os.Bundle) code path, which would otherwise be difficult to force. Choosing this option will probably reveal a number of problems in your application due to not saving state. For more information about saving an activity's state, see the Activities document.
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(and yes, they used to call it "Immediately destroy activities")

Thanks. I turned it off. Did notice some bugs while on. I just wish with 1GB of RAM the launcher wouldnt have to reload. Hopefully things get better. Might just be my apps but it happens quite often when leaving the browser.
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mobilehavoc said:
Thanks. I turned it off. Did notice some bugs while on. I just wish with 1GB of RAM the launcher wouldnt have to reload. Hopefully things get better. Might just be my apps but it happens quite often when leaving the browser.
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weird.. how many widgets do you have on your launcher? the more widgets you have, the slower the launcher is.
Have you tried another launcher? The stock launcher has never been known for being fast and efficient, although I haven't had any issues with it (whereas I'm a LauncherPro fan on my other devices).

kwazi said:
weird.. how many widgets do you have on your launcher? the more widgets you have, the slower the launcher is.
Have you tried another launcher? The stock launcher has never been known for being fast and efficient, although I haven't had any issues with it (whereas I'm a LauncherPro fan on my other devices).
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I have quite a few Widgets but nothing too crazy I don't think. I use LauncherPro on my other devices as well but I love this new launcher so I'm going to stick it out. Like I said the most common task that causes the issue is when I'm using the web browser and then come out of it. Otherwise its been stable. I've noticed the same thing with Honeycomb on my Xoom so it might just be one of those things I have to put up with.
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i'm also noticing some redraw and occasional lag when hitting the home button.
I'm hoping that CM9's custom launcher will have an option to lock it in memory- that may increase the performance by a lot.
also when replacement launchers like go launcher start optimizing more for ICS those might be good options.

Have you tried converting your launcher into a system app? You'll need to use Titanium Backup Pro or something similar to do it for you, or simple copy the APK into your system/app folder... Really sped up my launcher!

shawnshine said:
Have you tried converting your launcher into a system app? You'll need to use Titanium Backup Pro or something similar to do it for you, or simple copy the APK into your system/app folder... Really sped up my launcher!
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Did you see the date on this thread, almost 8 months old
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Did you see the date on this thread, almost 8 months old
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... and yet people still continue to discover the thread and benefit from it.
Thanks for clarifying the meaning of "Don't keep activities"

my razr xt910 cannot be counted upon to run smoothly with all the apps simultaneously running and forcing itself to go into reboot. i then fancied an iPhone single styled system (as compared to Android multi-talks) cuz iPhone looks robust and responsive. all the killer that claimed to do the job looked more of a farce and then when i stumbled upon the destroy activity i was like OMG. srsly b4 using it I've only got just inner 100mb of ram, after using it i have a whooping 400mb ram. UI appears faster and all. regarding the relaunching of apps and battery life being used up. i think I'll start to worry about it on a later date. what say any body. ooh yes to add on, even after i deleted 40 apps on my phone it still hanged like fcuked. i guess i can reinstall them back again and not have to worry about it. btw i can't seem to root my xt910 for nuts so i can't custom ROM it along with all other fanciful mods that i hear about what others did to their phones.

[Q] Major lag from touch screen suddenly

Hello.
I have posted this in the forums at Android Central and only got one response. I've had my phone since Feb of this year. Since 11/2 there is major lag. No issues on 11/1. Taps on the home screen are continuously being read as long presses. My lock screen is really laggy, as are home screens and most apps. Bad piggies for whatever reason is working just fine. Most other apps including the keyboard are very laggy. It just seems to be very slow to respond to touch all of a sudden. My phone is rooted stock GB. At AC, I was told an app was hogging RAM. I downloaded Memory Useage from the google play store but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm still getting that lady after killing and uninstalling apps. The lag is still there with the native launcher so I really don't think it has anything to do with GO Launcher. I used TiB to revert GOL back to the previous version. I also uninstalled GOLocker as well. I've done a soft reset but it didn't help.
Is there a way to see my Play update history so I can see which apps installed that night? I've always had the occasional lag but it wasn't ever really a big deal. This is greatly interfering with my use of the phone. I am lucky to type a word before the keyboard disappears. Low resources makes sense but I just can't figure out what app is hogging them.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm thinking of resting back to unrooted GB to upgrade to stock ICS.

The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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BluesRulez said:
The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.

cajunlibra said:
Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.
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My apps list is in the play store..
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BluesRulez said:
My apps list is in the play store..
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Thanks. **Slaps forehead**

cajunlibra said:
Thanks. **Slaps forehead**
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This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.

cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Yeah
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cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Now I have removed all apps updated on 11/2 or overnight from the evening of 11/1. The only one I can't touch is Kies. I have frozen it with TiB but I'm still getting the super heavy lag. What can I do next? Do I need to just reset the whole device now and start from scratch?
This is really frustrating. I love my phone and haven't had it long enough to switch to something else. Are there any tests that I can perform to check on the screen itself?
I have also installed OS Monitor and the top apps using up the CPU are OS Monitor, SYstem, Google Play Movies & TV, Android System, gzip. THe % used varies from 0% up to 26% they may last only a second or two. Is there something wrong with my phone? I feel like I've exhausted finding a resource hog.

If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.

someguyatx said:
If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.
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Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?

cajunlibra said:
Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?
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Paranoid android 2.50. You can make a nandroid backup from el26 kernel with cwm of an pics rom.
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I'm currently using codename, great rom. I've only used my nandroid backups several times but they do work. Always just made my backup in whatever custom recovery I was using at the time. Can't remember what recovery I used on GB. Its been a while. Edit just use the el26 blues mentioned above
When switching between ROMs or experimenting I use SMS backup and restore and call log backup and restore from market. Its nice to have those old texts and call logs sometimes.

I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?

cajunlibra said:
I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?
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External SD never gets wiped during a rom flash. Even internal sd card doesn't.

What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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cajunlibra said:
What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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I have used once when I flashed jb tar and it worked. I prefer mobile Odin over desktop Odin to flash. Mobile Odin means no triangle.
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I use triangle away all the time, I never use mobile Odin. I think its more risky, not sure why, its all in my head

Thanks. One more question and hopefully we're done here.
I noticed that on the paranoid Android site, they no longer have OTAs. How do you get updates? Do you have to flash each time?
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Do any of you find it odd that bad piggies seems to be immune to this lag issue? I played it on my to work this morning. Other apps get bogged down. Thank you all for your help and advice.
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Custom roms typically require manual updates. Very few update automatically and i have never tried paranoid.
I'm not even sure what bad piggies is.

[Q] force a process to keep running?

Running jbsourcery v5 (4.2.2). I can't get any process to stay running at all. Lmt dies on me and restarts after browsing the web for a bit, after that it seems to die and restart every 5 mins. I downloaded sidebar today and its the same story but worse. The memory doesn't even need to be loaded, just lightly using my phone it dies and doesn't come back until I start it manually, this happens about every 5 mins and is EXTREMELY annoying. I've tweaked every single memory setting back and forth and also tried converting both to system apps but they force close and don't work.is there any way to force android to keep a process running or keep this from happening?
Edit: I should mention this has never happened with the weather bug status bar temperature. It sucks because both those apps are completely useless if they don't stay running

for anyone else with the same problem whether its a different app or not, i think i found the answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
i just copied another file in my init.d, renamed it and added the info for the app and restarted. i checked it with rom toolbox and it shows the OOM group as being excluded... vs foreground, visibile, empty app, etc. time will tell but i think this is going to work and i can think of another 2 or 3 times this would have been amazing to know. in any event, hopefully someone else may find this useful.
noobish disclaimer: it would be HIGHLY advised not to do this with any apps that have a large memory footprint

aaaanddd. it still doesnt work, app already disappeared. would this be classified as a legitimate memory leak?

App pimp my rom has a lock app in memory setting. Tried it yet?
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App pimp my rom has a lock app in memory setting. Tried it yet?
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lol i was just about to mention that. i wasnt finding anything about it at first because i was googling locking processes in memory. once i changed processes to applications, i found a thread mentioning it, and so far, it looks like this might have finally solved it. i havent had sidebar close yet so its looking pretty good.

[Q] Upgrading nightlies?

So, I apologize if this is a "n00b" question, but for the developers that create nightly builds (i.e. AOKP, my current ROM developer), is there an easy/efficient way to restore my apps? I'm assuming most of you will recommend Titanium Backup, Rom Toolbox, or System Tuner, but the backup process is relatively time-consuming and I'm wondering if there's a better way. The restoration process isn't too crazy time-consuming, but I use a custom launcher (GO Launcher) and, while I love its overall functionality, it kinda sucks for a restoration. I get a bunch of "loading" apps that don't seem to actually link to the proper app. They all say "App not found, try to restart Go Launcher" or something to the same effect. Is it not possible to simply upgrade the code for whatever changed between "nightly A" and "nightly B?" I imagine an incremental upgrade is doable, though I don't know quite enough about Android development to know if my thoughts are valid. Any help would be stellar. Thanks!
Me

If they are AOSP, just dirty flash them. 4.1.x > 4.2.x? Dirty flash works fine. I know this because I've done it. There is almost never a reason to do a "clean flash". Quotations because restoring data... it's really a dirty flash.
In regards to the launcher issues, perhaps it's time you found one that works properly for you. Sometimes you just have to change the software you are using. Whether it no longer fits your needs, or is just a buggy POS. I love Nova. I've heard good things about Action Launcher, too. Nova has a free version. Test it out.
I use TitaniumBackup, but almost never use it for backing up (unless I'm uninstalling an app). I use it mostly for disabling system apps. I usually nandroid when I want a backup. You could also look at Carbon.

Yeah, if it's an upgrade of the same ROM and not a big update, there's no reason to do a full wipe. Just keep a backup in case you does mess up.
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To address the time consumption part, the paid version of Titanium saves you time since it will restore by itself.
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I highly recommend the app called Carbon. Look it up in the play store.
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