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Hey folks
I am new to all this with rooting, flashing and so on, and i think it's exciting and awesome, so thanks to all the develepors, and the other guys who keeps this scene running!
I got a few questions about TI backup, that i need answered.. I have searched around the forum for a while, and can't find any exact answers to my questions..
With my phone rooted.. What would you guys go after, the free or the full version of TI backup, and why?
Whats the differences between the free and full?
I have also searched a bit round on the official users guide, and Wiki on TI backups homepage, but it's confusing i think..
And how is it with backup, flashing other roms and so on?
I now have the HoneySense rom flashed, and TI backup..
Can i take a backup of my sms messages, my app's, and their settings, and then flash another rom, and get the **** moved to the new rom?
And how does that work in practice?
- do i have to install TI backup on the new rom after flashing, or is there anyway that it could be installed with the rom, or how works that?
Finally, i got a question about ClockworkMod, since i can't find much information about the app on their homepage..
I got CWM installed,but what is is exactly? Is it somekind of bootloader, or?
And will CWM dissapear from my phone when flashing?
When i flashed to HoneySense, i did it with CWM, but that was also some kind of bootloader?
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
giusdk said:
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
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Titanium Backup Pro has more features included, but i didnt need them already... if you use it to backup and restore your system and apps and you decide to flash a different ROM, you should only restore Apps, not Data... thats a choice you can make in Restore menue... i'm talking about your User-Apps, i never restored System-Apps or Data after a clean install of an ROM...
Greets Steffen
Thanks for the answer already
Do you know more about it?
Could any action taken in TI backup cause the phone to crash and brick?
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The Pro version because you can batch restore, otherwise you have to restore apps individually.
You can restore the apps data as well, but not recommended across totally different roms, definitely do not restore system apps and data, anything in red. This might include SMS data (red), up to you to try. Other alternatives would be use other app such as GoSMS Pro (free) Edit: has backup option, or My Backup Root.
There might be a chance of force closes etc, if you've not followed the above, but never heard of anyone actually bricking their device. Worst case is having to restore a full backup made in ClockworkMod Recovery.
I use both CWM and TB Pro prior to flashing any new ROM. Also keep a copy on the PC just in case the sdcard has a bad day.
Don't forget to wipe dalvik cache in CWM after TB restore and reboot. It may take a few minutes to boot up, but don't worry.
If your Market doesn't show all your apps, try deleting market cache, reboot clearing dalvik, and use TB Pro to "restore market links" found somewhere in the menu. If still doesn't show all, TB recommends try downloading a new app then check again.
Edit: CWM is just a custom recovery. Has many more options than stock, allowing a full system backup and restore, also known as a nan / nandroid backup, similar to a ghost / image of your system. Can be used and updated through an app called ROM Manager, which is really just an interface / GUI for CWM (among other things).
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I only got a sec or I'd answer more ????s.
I use the paid version simply cuz after using the free for so long and it saving me so much time and grief, i felt it only right to buy the full version. Plus the dev (joel) is awesome at direct support. Plus, on full version, you can make multiple backups of an app (for newer versions, etc) .
I would use a diff app for backup texts. Sms backup/restore is good, and free. And that way, you wont have to restore system app and data with Ti (which can cause issues)
Also, I Dont use CWM, I use amonRA, but yes, you will still have it after flashing a new rom, kernel, or theme. It is on a partition that goes untouched across flashes.
Ti, is an excellent tool.
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Additionally:
Most custom roms have TB Free, but you will need to restore your Pro key first and reboot, that is if you want to batch restore the rest of your apps and or data etc. Otherwise it's one by one.
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That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
giusdk said:
That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
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You can wipe dalvik cache from a menu within CWM Recovery, or several apps, including TB . TB / Menu / More / .....
Just backup using menu inside CWM Recovery or from within ROM Manager (uses CWM Recovery) before flashing any ROM. So if you don't like the new Rom or have issues, you can boot into recovery and restore.
Most custom ROMs have an advanced power menu allowing you to reboot directly into CWM Recovery, or you can from ROM Manager or from the Bootloader menu.
All CWM Recovery backups are saved to the sdcard / clockworkmod / backup
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Titanium backs up your apps and app data and some system data. While recovery backs up/restores your current ROM image, meaning back up will restore everything up to the second you backed up even the way you place your apps
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Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
U can also try MyBackup Pro which is an excellent alternative to Titanium.
giusdk said:
Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
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So, now i got better time, and i do understand a lot more of it.
Are anybody in for helping me making such a dictionary?
I will do mostly everything, just need some who knows more than me, to read it and tell me if somethings wrong or missing
Thank you
I am planning to start playing around with custom Kernels, and from reading all the FAQs, I understand 5hat best practice is to wipe my phone first. I have also done a nandroid backup with CWM.
Are there any other steps i need to take before installing my Kernel if I want to restore all my apps? (Obviously I haven't wiped my data yet). Once I do have the new kernel, what are best practices for restoring apps? I have both market and non market apps.
Thanks!
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bocaJWho said:
I am planning to start playing around with custom Kernels, and from reading all the FAQs, I understand 5hat best practice is to wipe my phone first. I have also done a nandroid backup with CWM.
Are there any other steps i need to take before installing my Kernel if I want to restore all my apps? (Obviously I haven't wiped my data yet). Once I do have the new kernel, what are best practices for restoring apps? I have both market and non market apps.
Thanks!
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Buy Titanium backup in the market, any rooted user's must-have app. Restore becomes a joy.
You DO NOT have to wipe anything (perhaps cache & dalvik if you change to a different kernel but that's it) prior to flashing a kernel!
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I do no wipes prior to installing a new kernel. I've been installing kernels on Android devices for over two years now and have never wiped for a kernel.
Here's a little write-up that was done about recovering from a Factory Data Reset, but would apply to a rom install too:
1. First, make sure Backup and Restore are checked in the Privacy setting prior to starting. 2. When going through the setup after the reset/rom install, turn on wifi as soon as you can (assuming it is available). 3. After you have entered your Gmail account info, you will be presented with a screen that has two check boxes. Basically they are "Do you want Google to backup and restore this phone”. Make sure you check both of those. 4. Open the Market app and accept the market terms. 5. Your apps will then automatically reinstall (paid and free). Set the phone aside for a minute or two and let the apps download and install. 6. If rooted, use an app such as titanium backup to restore data only to select apps such as Tapatalk and you will not have to re-enter all your login information. I do this for 3-4 apps (Tapatalk, SPB Shell, etc.).
Full wipe not required on new kernel
Titanium backup is mus have you will love it
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I have never used Titanium Backup before for actual backups of apps. I have used it only to wipe cache data for gmail when the system was dumb and said none was in use.
So here's my dumb question: Titanium backup can backup apps prior to a full factory reset, including dalvik cache, and then restore those apps and their settings after a new ROM is installed, including having the market be aware that said apps are installed (for updating purposes and such)?
Are there any special settings or hangups to be aware of?
[email protected] question but if you have problems click menu then preferences or settings, forgot which, but scroll down to the bottom it'll say if you're haviing problems etc.. click or touch that and click indirect android installer or whatever and when you go to restore apps click restore then app only and then once you've installed the app then go back to the app in titanium back up and click restore then data only..
I had a problem with TB only on ics where I had to do this
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dumb Q pt 2
I am going from an EI22 ROM to an FC09 ROM (people's rom v2). So far I've only backed up user apps, should (or could) I use the 'backup system and user apps' or just stick with user apps?
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I am going from an EI22 ROM to an FC09 ROM (people's rom v2). So far I've only backed up user apps, should (or could) I use the 'backup system and user apps' or just stick with user apps?
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only back up user if you restore system it tends to cause issues
tazfanatic said:
only back up user if you restore system it tends to cause issues
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Going to different roms yes only restore apps but if your just reflashing the same rom the backup was made from then you can restore system
jbadboy2007 said:
Going to different roms yes only restore apps but if your just reflashing the same rom the backup was made from then you can restore system
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True but not what he is doing
U can backup apps and data. And then restore them on ur next rom. But if u change partition formats such as from bml to mtd, u have to make sure u do not restore system apps. Other wise u r ok
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LORDFIRE00 said:
U can backup apps and data. And then restore them on ur next rom. But if u change partition formats such as from bml to mtd, u have to make sure u do not restore system apps. Other wise u r ok
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It is never a good idea to restore system stuff but it does not matter MTD or BML...it is the same apps just on a different partition...thing FAT32 and NTFS...programs don't care which you use.
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Hope this helps..what I do is use "App Monster PRO". As you download apps....it back them up automatically. But it has to be the "pro" version. The free one s*cks. Go to 4shared.com in the search bar enter " app monster apk". Then download the 2.0 version. Good luck.
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I uninstall it and now when i want to reinstall it it told me i'm out of space but i have 5gb left and i can install all other apps from play store i am rooted and i have clear cache using clear master i clear all of it and try agin but it steel told me i'm out of space is there any chance to get it back?
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I am going to flash a custom rom and i want to backup my stuck rom is there any app similar with titanium backup??
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Thx for helping i have try all backup apps from store and i find ultimate backup that allow me to backup system UI and touchWiz home the best help you can get it is from yourself
Multiple posts don't help at all...
Backing up system data can be dangerous when you'll restore.
There are many apps that backup user data as Helium, App Backup & Restore, MyBackup... You can also use a PC software.
You are the first one who respond the
Now it doesn't matter because I have flashed a custom rom and it's work great
And sorry for multi posting but no one was there to respond
I recently upgraded to stock TW Lollipop using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
Okay now the problem is that my stock clock app that came with my phone no longer works any advice on how to fix this?
Another problem is my Titanium Back-Up Pro can no longer write on my SD card to back-up my apps to it, anyone know how I could fix this?
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I recently upgraded to stock TW Lollipop using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
Okay now the problem is that my stock clock app that came with my phone no longer works any advice on how to fix this?
Another problem is my Titanium Back-Up Pro can no longer write on my SD card to back-up my apps to it, anyone know how I could fix this?
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Wipe dalvik cache and cache should help with your clock app. As for the Ti Backup app, you may want to try the newest version. Mine is working alright.
wzhao14 said:
Wipe dalvik cache and cache should help with your clock app. As for the Ti Backup app, you may want to try the newest version. Mine is working alright.
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I'm kinda new at this, so How exactly do I wipe my dalvik?
Oh no I do have the newest version of titanium back-up pro form the Google play store.
EstradaKing said:
I'm kinda new at this, so How exactly do I wipe my dalvik?
Oh no I do have the newest version of titanium back-up pro form the Google play store.
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go into TWRP-wipe-advanced wipe, choose dalvik cache and cache. Conform to wipe
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go into TWRP-wipe-advanced wipe, choose dalvik cache and cache. Conform to wipe
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Nope didn't work anymore ideas?
Have you tried clearing the cache and data from in the Application Manager? Open System Settings and choose the General tab. From here scroll down and choose Application Manager. Now swipe left three times to the All category. Scroll down to clock and choose it. In the new window scroll down and clear cache then clear data above it. Now reboot and go into TWRP and wipe Dalvik again. This process will delete any alarms you have created.
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Have you tried clearing the cache and data from in the Application Manager? Open System Settings and choose the General tab. From here scroll down and choose Application Manager. Now swipe left three times to the All category. Scroll down to clock and choose it. In the new window scroll down and clear cache then clear data above it. Now reboot and go into TWRP and wipe Dalvik again. This process will delete any alarms you have created.
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Yes i did that too and still broken anymore ideas? I'm getting worried
EstradaKing said:
Yes i did that too and still broken anymore ideas? I'm getting worried
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I am not sure, did you somehow debloated your rom? Deleted or freezed any app?
EstradaKing said:
Yes i did that too and still broken anymore ideas? I'm getting worried
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At this point I would personally re-flash the system. Starting at Step 0 with the guide you linked.
Like all new Samsung roms it has a write protect on the system so you can't write to the SD card get ahold of the write fix and just push it into the system/etc/permissions folder and everything will work again
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At this point I would personally re-flash the system. Starting at Step 0 with the guide you linked.
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Yeah I think I'm going to redo the method and see what happens!
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Like all new Samsung roms it has a write protect on the system so you can't write to the SD card get ahold of the write fix and just push it into the system/etc/permissions folder and everything will work again
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First off thanks for helping out on both my posts!
I think I got the file it's something like build.prop.sd.fix.zip I'm going to flash it using my recovery. Is that good?
The file is platform.xml and it goes into system/etc/permissions
I had a problem with play store and play services constantly crashing on me. I ended up factory resetting twice I believe and now it works tits
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