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Ok when I flash a new ROM and want to do so with a clean slate/wipe, I have titanium backup to back up all my apps, but I'm still kinda unsure of the full procedure as obvious as it may seem... When I did my first wipe, I had to go back and redo all of my information for everything on the phone. Is this typical? What I mean by that is I had to input all my google account info, set up my home screens, set up my facebook app...and turn off all of my sync's...
if you don't wipe, do you have to do all of that? Does a titanium backup on apps/system data allow you to not have to do this?
is this the proper step by step:
1.Titanium backup - apps/system data
2. Rom manager -download rom w/ wipe and back up
3. load rom
4. titanium restore - apps/system data?
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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when i flashed to virtuous and did a wipe, i did a backup before of just apps and when i restored apps+user data, it really didn't do anything. I still had to change all the configurations for everything to not sync and to put in username/password...
smtom said:
Just apps or apps+user data. System data varies from ROM to ROM. Plus, you have no need of multiple copies of system data.
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was shaky on this as well....what is the difference between user and system data? Just would be a pain to lose all layouts and wifi passwords.
I've been doing apps+system data each time and havn't really had any major problems to speak of
my titanium backup doesnt have an option to back up apps+user data... just apps and apps+system data
My bad on an unclear response.. When restoring from TB, it's apps+ user data. You do not want to restore system apps from a different rom. In the scheduling section of TB, There are different configurations you can choose.
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any way to keep home screens and such in place?
Should be the restore desktop htc sense in TB/Restore missing apps+ all system data. That's the only 1 you should pull from there for this.
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I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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SR3TLAW said:
I just did a restore myself with user apps+data and it had me click 'install' for every app, pain in the ass, anyway to click and go?
Thanks
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Get the paid version.
Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I have a quesition about TB Pro. Today I flashed the CM6 ROM onto my DINC. When I reinstalled the TB Pro app onto the phone from my appmonster folder on the SD Card and opened it up to restore my apps in batch mode, TB Pro would FC whether I was trying to restore apps only, apps+data or even individual apps (not batch mode). Am I doing something wrong, am I misunderstanding how TB Pro is supposed to function, is there an incompatibility?
Try the problems button in titanium and clear its data in the application menu.
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Hey
Whats a "general guide" when changing ROMS? I Have titanium backup installed on my Android. I wouldnt like to go thru configuring everything again and most importantly would like to keep my applications, settings, sync, calanadar, contacts, messages, etc....
These are the steps that I usually take when flashing a new rom.
1. NANDroid backup of the current running ROM
2. Complete flash (Data, Davlik, Battery, Cache)
3. Flash new ROM and boot
4. Go through the configuration screens (if any) and land on the homescreen
5. Perform a complete reboot (no fastboot from HTC, make sure it's a complete shut down and reboot)
6. Sync contacts and calendar from Gmail
7. Sync Facebook (if applicable)
8. Redownload apps and reconfigure
I am not a fan of Titanium for restoring settings and configuration if going to another dev or another ROM. It's fine if you are reflashing the same ROM, but I find stories of people who have tried to restore their configuration settings with Titanium and have headaches. Better to just take the time to reconfigure manually than to cut corners. I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
Have fun!
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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Spastic909 said:
I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
Nandroid the original stock(duh)
If you are on a rom u like nandroid before trying another
But if you don't like the rom and are going to flash something else then what's the point to back it up? Plus they will start filling up your sd card
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You back it up incase the new rom does not work, so you have something to fall back to! I only keep my backups for a day then there deleted (Apart from the stock rom)
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I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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tronmech said:
Well, my belief is that you should always backup before flashing just so you can always get back where you started. I can see your point if you use a rom for just a few hours and then go to something else, but anything more than that... It's only a few minutes wait.
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Yep, totally agree. Also, I only keep 1 nandroid or so on my SD, and move others to my PC.
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I do, however, use Titanium to give me a good and complete list of the apps I have installed so that I can go and redownload them from market.
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Is there a way to generate this list?
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Is there a way to generate this list?
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I use titanium backup (free version) and have never had a problem. Just backup your apps and there is your list when you flash a new rom and redownload titanium. Then you can choose which apps you want to reload by choosing "batch" which makes it easier to reinstall all the apps quickly.
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I still think its a waste of time to do a nandroid before every flash..
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Seems like a waste of time till you have a botched flash. It takes 5 min to backup, and saves you a TON of time if something messes up.
For OP:
1) Go to Titanium Backup, backup all apps (not system data, unless moving from one ROM to a fresh version of the same ROM).
2) Enter recovery
3) Make Nandroid backup. It will automatically be given a date and generic name (rename when you get back into ROM Manager)
4) Wipe cache/dalvik data/Factory reset
5) Flash new ROM, applicable kernels you want, etc.
6) Boot, install TB, restore apps (NOT system data!)
7) Fix permissions with ROM Manager, Reboot, etc. as the ROM requires.
Like I said, the only way you can keep your settings, etc. is if you're backing up from a ROM and returning to the same ROM. Don't try to backup system data from a Sense build and restoring it to an AOSP build. Just gonna have to deal with reconfiguring your system it'll save you hassles of incompatibility. Contacts should be syncing to your main Gmail account, so once you add that to the new ROM everything will be imported back. As far as saving SMS and MMS, there are different apps for that.
Hey folks
I am new to all this with rooting, flashing and so on, and i think it's exciting and awesome, so thanks to all the develepors, and the other guys who keeps this scene running!
I got a few questions about TI backup, that i need answered.. I have searched around the forum for a while, and can't find any exact answers to my questions..
With my phone rooted.. What would you guys go after, the free or the full version of TI backup, and why?
Whats the differences between the free and full?
I have also searched a bit round on the official users guide, and Wiki on TI backups homepage, but it's confusing i think..
And how is it with backup, flashing other roms and so on?
I now have the HoneySense rom flashed, and TI backup..
Can i take a backup of my sms messages, my app's, and their settings, and then flash another rom, and get the **** moved to the new rom?
And how does that work in practice?
- do i have to install TI backup on the new rom after flashing, or is there anyway that it could be installed with the rom, or how works that?
Finally, i got a question about ClockworkMod, since i can't find much information about the app on their homepage..
I got CWM installed,but what is is exactly? Is it somekind of bootloader, or?
And will CWM dissapear from my phone when flashing?
When i flashed to HoneySense, i did it with CWM, but that was also some kind of bootloader?
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
giusdk said:
I really appreciate your time, and your willing to help
Thank you
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Titanium Backup Pro has more features included, but i didnt need them already... if you use it to backup and restore your system and apps and you decide to flash a different ROM, you should only restore Apps, not Data... thats a choice you can make in Restore menue... i'm talking about your User-Apps, i never restored System-Apps or Data after a clean install of an ROM...
Greets Steffen
Thanks for the answer already
Do you know more about it?
Could any action taken in TI backup cause the phone to crash and brick?
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The Pro version because you can batch restore, otherwise you have to restore apps individually.
You can restore the apps data as well, but not recommended across totally different roms, definitely do not restore system apps and data, anything in red. This might include SMS data (red), up to you to try. Other alternatives would be use other app such as GoSMS Pro (free) Edit: has backup option, or My Backup Root.
There might be a chance of force closes etc, if you've not followed the above, but never heard of anyone actually bricking their device. Worst case is having to restore a full backup made in ClockworkMod Recovery.
I use both CWM and TB Pro prior to flashing any new ROM. Also keep a copy on the PC just in case the sdcard has a bad day.
Don't forget to wipe dalvik cache in CWM after TB restore and reboot. It may take a few minutes to boot up, but don't worry.
If your Market doesn't show all your apps, try deleting market cache, reboot clearing dalvik, and use TB Pro to "restore market links" found somewhere in the menu. If still doesn't show all, TB recommends try downloading a new app then check again.
Edit: CWM is just a custom recovery. Has many more options than stock, allowing a full system backup and restore, also known as a nan / nandroid backup, similar to a ghost / image of your system. Can be used and updated through an app called ROM Manager, which is really just an interface / GUI for CWM (among other things).
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I only got a sec or I'd answer more ????s.
I use the paid version simply cuz after using the free for so long and it saving me so much time and grief, i felt it only right to buy the full version. Plus the dev (joel) is awesome at direct support. Plus, on full version, you can make multiple backups of an app (for newer versions, etc) .
I would use a diff app for backup texts. Sms backup/restore is good, and free. And that way, you wont have to restore system app and data with Ti (which can cause issues)
Also, I Dont use CWM, I use amonRA, but yes, you will still have it after flashing a new rom, kernel, or theme. It is on a partition that goes untouched across flashes.
Ti, is an excellent tool.
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Additionally:
Most custom roms have TB Free, but you will need to restore your Pro key first and reboot, that is if you want to batch restore the rest of your apps and or data etc. Otherwise it's one by one.
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That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
giusdk said:
That was fast.. and usefull!
Thank you guys, that made it a lot more easy..
How do i clear the dalvik cache?
The CWM is a recovery tool.. So that if something goes wrong in a flash, i can recover by using CWM?
And to do that, i will need to take a Rom Backup, in CMW..
When i press the Backup Rom button i CWM, my phone restarts and boots into CWM interface, and backs up everything.. Where is that file stored, so i can move to my pc, and have the backup an extra place?
About the market problem.. I do almost only have paid apps, so when i login to market with my google account, they automaticly shows up under my bought app's..
Thank you so much for the help so far
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You can wipe dalvik cache from a menu within CWM Recovery, or several apps, including TB . TB / Menu / More / .....
Just backup using menu inside CWM Recovery or from within ROM Manager (uses CWM Recovery) before flashing any ROM. So if you don't like the new Rom or have issues, you can boot into recovery and restore.
Most custom ROMs have an advanced power menu allowing you to reboot directly into CWM Recovery, or you can from ROM Manager or from the Bootloader menu.
All CWM Recovery backups are saved to the sdcard / clockworkmod / backup
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Titanium backs up your apps and app data and some system data. While recovery backs up/restores your current ROM image, meaning back up will restore everything up to the second you backed up even the way you place your apps
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Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
U can also try MyBackup Pro which is an excellent alternative to Titanium.
giusdk said:
Thank you so much. That was answers to all my questions.. For now
At some later point when i am much more into all this, i am considering making a thread, with info to all the new people in the forum, like me, who don't know what the Dalvik is, and a little about what the kernel is and why it is there.. All the small but usefull stuff, that aren't on the XDA Wiki page about DHD..
A big dictionary
That could be usefull i think..
Thanks a lot for you time
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So, now i got better time, and i do understand a lot more of it.
Are anybody in for helping me making such a dictionary?
I will do mostly everything, just need some who knows more than me, to read it and tell me if somethings wrong or missing
Thank you
Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
Aquethys said:
Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
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Just curious, did you allow root when you first launched Titanium Backup? You might try removing it and installing again.
Aquethys said:
Hi,
I have loaded OsiMood onto my phone...
Now, when I try and go to Titanium Backup to restore thigns such as
Buddies Now
Calculator
Clock
Digital Clock
Home screen tips
And click restore it takes forever. Is this the ROM preventing me?
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Force Close titanium Backup (tap and hold home touch key, task manager, active tab, Exit TB), then restart back up. This may NOT work, for TB only preserves "Data" of those system apps (not apk).
Word of caution: You are restoring "system apps" which is quite delicate...I suggest not restoring any system apps, i know it would be a pain for others, like me, who uses some bloat apps...but just to be safe. Talking from experience and from strong warnings upon flashing different ROMs.
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Force Close titanium Backup (tap and hold home touch key, task manager, active tab, Exit TB), then restart back up. This may NOT work, for TB only preserves "Data" of those system apps (not apk).
Word of caution: You are restoring "system apps" which is quite delicate...I suggest not restoring any system apps, i know it would be a pain for others, like me, who uses some bloat apps...but just to be safe. Talking from experience and from strong warnings upon flashing different ROMs.
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YES, didn't even notice that. I usually say never restore System apps or system data with Tibu. It's great for 3rd party apps and data, but more often times it will end up giving you many FC's and leaving you with a generally unstable phone.
hello i have been using this rom,
freeze a app you would like then wait about 10 sec push the home key then restart the phone even tho TB doesnt stop deleting the app it has actually done it i think its a bug in this rom, when the phone powers on you will notice the app is gone, same steps for restoring if the app is big id wait longer before restarting.
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Then how do you install system apps?
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Then how do you install system apps?
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requires some work...you can unpack those system apps from the stock rom and push it to /system/app....
not guaranteed to work, you might end up reflashing....do it on your risk....
Is osimood applied over the rogers rom or replace?
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It should replace the existing ROM, sort of. When going from a stock ROM to custom I always do a wipe data/factory reset in CWM. Then when you flash the new ROM, it's basically replacing the stock ROM. I said sort of, because sometime if you don't wipe the data, when you flash the new ROM some of your old data may still be lingering around. Most of the time you will know this because it force closes (FC's) like crazy, kind of like restoring system data with Titanium Backup (tibu).
Once you are on a custom ROM, you can usually flash any new versions without wiping data, and in return all your settings/apps/data is still there after the flash. I usually do this unless the Dev says to do a wipe in the instructions.
Lots of questions..
Do I restore cwm or tibu? Are they the same?
When I wipe can I also do it from settings?
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Aquethys said:
Lots of questions..
Do I restore cwm or tibu? Are they the same?
When I wipe can I also do it from settings?
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CWM or Clockwork Mod is a recovery platform that is loaded before the Android OS comes up if you press the correct keys. It's used to flash custom ROMS, do a full system backup, wiping and recovery, and some other fun things.
Tibu is designed to backup and restore almost anything in the Android OS itself, ie, apps, settings, and also other fun things like freezing, uninstalling, etc. I say "designed to" because I've never seen Tibu successfully restore system data or apps. The only things I use Tibu for are backing up and restoring of User apps and data, this is helpful when flashing. From a clean install I can usually be back to normal in about 10 minutes using Tibu and then manually entering my google account info, wireless info, ringtones, etc.
You have the ability to wipe from the settings menu, but when flashing new roms it's better to do it from CWM as this wipes your data and cache. Some Devs recommend to wipe the Dalvik Cache also, which can only be done in CWM.
Hope that helps.
I heard that titanium backup should not be used when changing to a new ROM.
Is it true? If so, why?
Another question, if I don't use titanium backup to backup everything but just a few user data(like the save of games), and I don't backup the app, just simply the user data, is it okay then?
It doesn't matter if you are changing roms or whatever it just backs up apk files and data folder so it will work on every rom without any problems.
It's better to take the 'app' from playstore after flashing a new Rom..sometimes titanium can get stuck at 'Restoring app data'..happened with me with twice..
Where did you read it shouldnt be used?
I regularly backup all user and system data.
When you go to a new ROM though, its quite fine to restore ALL user apps+data
But when it comes to system apps, I always go through them individually and restore what necessary - some system apps/data may conflict with the new ROM system apps/data.
This is my experience...could be bull**** lol
Alright, thx all of you
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The best way is restore apps without data, reboot then restore data. I've been doing it that way since my x10 running donut...
If changing to another rom only restore user data/apps. Don't restore system apps data as it may cause probs.
I use titanium backup on my arc and n7 tablet have the same apps etc and always send titanium data between the 2 devices with out any issues.
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