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I am not a full time developer! So do not request any roms or apps from me. I only make roms for my self and friends.
This thread is created to help members [noobs] to understand more about android and the device itself.
I decided to create this thread because the developers already have enough work to do, they wont be able to answer all questions from members [noobs].
I only owns the N7100 (galaxy note international model), but i will try by best to answer all of your questions using my experiences .
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Thanks to these following members who helped me answer questions in this thread:
ObenDevin - Thanks to him for helping me answer lots of questions
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Can you pls help me with my phone? I'm unable to flash anything onto it to get it working again :/ Gets stuck at boot no recovery only download mode. Counter goes up when i flash custom things but binary and system do not change to official when i flash stock rom. Tried many things. Here you can read more about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040464
Grateful for any help :/
limital said:
Can you pls help me with my phone? I'm unable to flash anything onto it to get it working again :/ Gets stuck at boot no recovery only download mode. Counter goes up when i flash custom things but binary and system do not change to official when i flash stock rom. Tried many things. Here you can read more about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040464
Grateful for any help :/
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Firstly, is your device rooted? have you got cwm installed in your device before not being able to boot? If yes i recommend you to try and reflash the file and stock firmware through odin. MAKE SURE that it is for you device! [eg. for n7100 and not for n7105]
The stock browser doesn't have anymore the "zoom on the side" feature on XXDLK7? or is it custom rom specific? any way to get it back?
Thanks^^
Hi have posted this but not gwtting any joy...please can you have a look...attached
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monkey sausage said:
Hi have posted this but not gwtting any joy...please can you have a look...attached
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Hi, your screenshot does not give me the information about your device model but not about other things, can you please go into you status and send me your device status, also please send me the whole picture of your "about device."
tacchan23 said:
The stock browser doesn't have anymore the "zoom on the side" feature on XXDLK7? or is it custom rom specific? any way to get it back?
Thanks^^
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Should get chrome hahaha but anyways, there is a possibilty that it is rom specific but that is very unlikely, as developers would not really wanna touch the stock browser as normally i would see they would add an alternative browser such as chrome to their roms. To get the feature back you might need to push the app from the previous rom/version you were using.
monkey sausage said:
Hi have posted this but not gwtting any joy...please can you have a look...attached
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Just try restarting your phone...
I had faced the same problem once and rebooting it solved that...
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Restarted phone all seems well now..says latest software updated...strange behaviour. ..thanks for the help
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TriangleAway crash
Hello, thanks for this thread. I have a GT-N7100 now but previously i had GT-9100 and i'm familiar with rooting, rom flashing, etc.. and i've used TriangleAway so many times. When i get my hands on note 2 first thing i've done was rooting it with CF Auto Root package via Odin. then i've done wiping steps and after that i tried to flash my counter via TriangleAway(purchased from market). It said i have to download data to use it so i did. When TriangleAway opened "Current Status" said current status cannot be determined so i have to go special boot mode for reset. So i tried to reset my counter. Unfortunately when app tried to check for kernel, first app froze and after that it crashed and showed a warning about app being stopped. I tried to delete and re-install app(no good), gone to download mode it said normal status with 1 custom software install, looked to recovery menu for any changes(it is stock not CWM) and tried to find any wrong thing i've screwed up while rooting. But i couldn't find anything. I've looked at chainfire's blog, TriangleAway app post and everywhere i can think of. I cannot find anything. Can u help me with my problem. Thank you for your time and if i misused English anyhow and it came difficult to read sorry in advance.
Chayangkul99 said:
Firstly, is your device rooted? have you got cwm installed in your device before not being able to boot? If yes i recommend you to try and reflash the file and stock firmware through odin. MAKE SURE that it is for you device! [eg. for n7100 and not for n7105]
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No my phone was not rooted before that happened and even when i flash CWM onto it nothing changes -> I'm not getting into recovery
ObenDevin said:
Hello, thanks for this thread. I have a GT-N7100 now but previously i had GT-9100 and i'm familiar with rooting, rom flashing, etc.. and i've used TriangleAway so many times. When i get my hands on note 2 first thing i've done was rooting it with CF Auto Root package via Odin. then i've done wiping steps and after that i tried to flash my counter via TriangleAway(purchased from market). It said i have to download data to use it so i did. When TriangleAway opened "Current Status" said current status cannot be determined so i have to go special boot mode for reset. So i tried to reset my counter. Unfortunately when app tried to check for kernel, first app froze and after that it crashed and showed a warning about app being stopped. I tried to delete and re-install app(no good), gone to download mode it said normal status with 1 custom software install, looked to recovery menu for any changes(it is stock not CWM) and tried to find any wrong thing i've screwed up while rooting. But i couldn't find anything. I've looked at chainfire's blog, TriangleAway app post and everywhere i can think of. I cannot find anything. Can u help me with my problem. Thank you for your time and if i misused English anyhow and it came difficult to read sorry in advance.
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I used cf auto root on a friends n7100. The counter was reset by auto root itself.
You dont need triangle away as separate app. Just use cf auto root and make sure you use the right version for n7100
EDIT: you need triangle away for the counter. Auto root just installs stock recovery after rooting. I was wrong.
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Ktp1976 well even before i used TriangleAway counter was showing 1 due to CF Auto Root flash via Odin. But what you are saying is interesting thoug i've never seen something like it.
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As it seems you are right and my memories were wrong
It installs stock recovery after rooting. You need triangle away to reset the counter. I just looked it up under forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933542
I did not have any problems though.
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ObenDevin said:
Hello, thanks for this thread. I have a GT-N7100 now but previously i had GT-9100 and i'm familiar with rooting, rom flashing, etc.. and i've used TriangleAway so many times. When i get my hands on note 2 first thing i've done was rooting it with CF Auto Root package via Odin. then i've done wiping steps and after that i tried to flash my counter via TriangleAway(purchased from market). It said i have to download data to use it so i did. When TriangleAway opened "Current Status" said current status cannot be determined so i have to go special boot mode for reset. So i tried to reset my counter. Unfortunately when app tried to check for kernel, first app froze and after that it crashed and showed a warning about app being stopped. I tried to delete and re-install app(no good), gone to download mode it said normal status with 1 custom software install, looked to recovery menu for any changes(it is stock not CWM) and tried to find any wrong thing i've screwed up while rooting. But i couldn't find anything. I've looked at chainfire's blog, TriangleAway app post and everywhere i can think of. I cannot find anything. Can u help me with my problem. Thank you for your time and if i misused English anyhow and it came difficult to read sorry in advance.
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Hi, at the moment i would recommend you to try and restock again and then try to reset the counter. You can also try and download the triangle away version from the xda forum(i know its the same but who knows it might make a difference). If this does not work, i would recommend you to try and install redpill kernel and then try to reset counter again then restock, if you are running a custom roms in your phone, everytime you reboot the device will store a counter, so you will have to reset the counter everytime. Hope i have helped you.
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limital said:
No my phone was not rooted before that happened and even when i flash CWM onto it nothing changes -> I'm not getting into recovery
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Your case is really weird, maybe try root it before installing the cwm and see what happens. Then after that try and restock it again.
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Chayangkul99 said:
Hi, at the moment i would recommend you to try and restock again and then try to reset the counter. You can also try and download the triangle away version from the xda forum(i know its the same but who knows it might make a difference). If this does not work, i would recommend you to try and install redpill kernel and then try to reset counter again then restock, if you are running a custom roms in your phone, everytime you reboot the device will store a counter, so you will have to reset the counter everytime. Hope i have helped you.
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First of all thank you and ktp1976 for answering.. Ok now i'm re-download everything from your thread and try it again.. I saw redpill kernel yesterday while i was searching is there any siyah kernel for note 2.. I luvved siyah kernel on my sgs2 but unfortunately there isn't one for it and developer wrote he will not wrote any version of siyah kernel for note series anytime soon.. so while i was looking for a kernel written by a suggested developer from gokhanmoral i came across to it.. the thing is i never have used any kernels double rom features or try to overlock any of my devices, i tried custom roms like miui, cyanogen, lightning on sgs2 but there was always a downside of all of the custom roms and every single time i've re-return to stock roms.. and while using stock roms i don't need any cutting edge features of advanced kernels i just need root permissions for using TitaniumBackup, Root Explorer and ROM ToolBox.. so that is the reason why i didn't try to have an advanced kernel.. Still if you are saying i will need it i will give it a shot.. I'll report after.. :fingers-crossed:
hi
i have been reading a lot about exynos chip problems etc and came to realize exynos abuse app which many recommend from chainfire is the easiest way to root and unroot phone. not only that it gapes the holes for nasty viruses to intrude the exynos chip. but one thing i am not sure what chain fire says in his discription about exynos app is---
Also note that if use the patch method without rooting, or keep patching the exploit at boot enabled when unrooting, you need an alternate method to re-root the device to disable this feature (like CF-Auto-Root) - you cannot use ExynosAbuse to do this since it patched the exploit. Unlike other patch authors, I do not believe in keeping an invisible rooted process running in the background while pretending you aren't rooted, to be able to unpatch this way
Also i saw pics of exynos app photos on 1 of the forums, in one of the photos it says under Unroot device option- keep the patch which disables the exploit at boot in place. note that this will prevent from using exynos abuse app again..
I do understand there is some sort of exploit which we are patching using this app apart from rooting the phone just to stop those nasty viruses. and if we unroot the phone the patch will stay in place at every boot on the exploit so if we have to root again we have to use other method like cf auto root etc..
can anyone kindly shed some light on what exploit is and what is the limitation and advantage of exynos abuse app.
thanks..
Further explanation, clarification.. and a small question and open discussion.
Hi,
Since no one replied to my question i did more reading and youtube videos etc and gained a bit of knowledge from dr.ketan too and thought to share my knowledge and PLS DO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. And feel free to add more comments.
There is sudden death syndrome in s3, note 2. All exynos samsung processors on 4.1.1 are affected. The phone suddenly dies without any reason. Not only that there is serious security hole where any app can gain user information. These both fixes are supposedly fixed in 4.1.2.
But chainfire came out with a great apk app which you can install as a normal app on phone which roots, unroots phone in one click and not only that it plugs the hole which was letting malicious apps in. But exynoseabuse doesnt take care of SDS (sudden death syndrome) and it only works on 4.1.1 and doesnt work on firmwares LL7 after jan 2013
There is option of pluging the hole without rooting the phone but if you patch exploit (plug the hole) without rooting you cannot use this particular app to root your phone - you have to use other methods of rooting like cf auto root etc
On the other hand, If you decide to root your phone you can disable exploit (plug the hole) just by one click or you have the option of disabling the exploit every time you reboot the phone. so the app will patch the hole before any other normal android app runs.
Then if you decide to ever unroot the phone or send it away for warranty just click unroot device..
This is here where i am bit confused IF we unroot the phone the patch remains there.? is there a way to remove the patch as well while unrooting so that there are no traces of patching or rooting etc and can use this app patch again.?
Also if we dont flash cwm, we can flash custom firmwares using mobile odin right and if we are sending it for warranty just flash a stock firmware in odin and it will be all good.? NO triangle or flash counter reset etc..?
Jay_Nz said:
This is here where i am bit confused IF we unroot the phone the patch remains there.? is there a way to remove the patch as well while unrooting so that there are no traces of patching or rooting etc and can use this app patch again.?
Also if we dont flash cwm, we can flash custom firmwares using mobile odin right and if we are sending it for warranty just flash a stock firmware in odin and it will be all good.? NO triangle or flash counter reset etc..?
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There is option to disable exploit in application, selecting that you closing security hole. is that clear?
Now if you unroot your device with selecting that option, still patch will remain there
If you don't select(uncheck) that option and then you unroot, patch won't be there
if you flash any stock ROM, that will erase all the patches you applied manually with exynose app including root.
O God Dr. Ketan you are full of knowledge and a kind man and you help all the time. Highly appreciated again.
Yes I do understand the concept fully now.
So if we uncheck both disable exploit options and unroot it removes patch as well unroots right. So that means we can root again using same app.?
On the other hand if we don't uncheck those disable exploit and unroot the patch stays there and we can't use exynosabuse app again to root. .. right. ?
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exactly
b'coz you needs root to patch/unpatch
BTW i advised you to post queries in Q/A section not on development.
It basically started as my partially acquired knowledge sharing and open discussion thread but it turned to question and answer thread due to small confusion I had. I will change it to q and a thread tomorrow.
So with this root option we can still Flash any custom roms easily using mobile or pc odin but we won't have feature rich root to use things like nandroid backuo and restore because we don't have cwm. And if we have to send for warranty just flash stock rom and its all official and we don't even have to run triangle away etc as flashing stock ROM will take care of everything. ?
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Morning doc. i wanted to delete this thread as you pointed out it is in development section. just realized it cant be deleted as we need to contact mod to delete it secondly i checked and it is in ques and ans section anyway so its all good. i have used exynos abuse app and rooted, unrooted twice and i will share a bit about it today some time. will jot down things in a newbie clear way so that in future if some one needs help they can read post and be clear about it.
Thanks for being actively involved and helpful all the time.
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dr.ketan said:
exactly
b'coz you needs root to patch/unpatch
BTW i advised you to post queries in Q/A section not on development.
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Seems you figured it out, but note that the Sds and enyxos security hole is two different things. Also, both of these are patched in any actively maintained kernel or rom on xda by now.
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Yes thanks to dr.ketan and others I understand the concept now. Have lefy this thread for further open discussion now. One thing I am still not clear about is cos I dont have cwm as I rooted with exynosabuse app so dows that mean I cant flash custom roms like omega rom etc using mobile odin. ?
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You can use mobile Odin without cwm, no worries.
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Thanks for reply. if mobile odin, exynoseabuse is easiet method to flash custom rom and root/unroot, then why people go for CWM.? Where does the importance of CWM comes in play.? What does it do or give.?
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adytum said:
You can use mobile Odin without cwm, no worries.
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exynose abuse won't work on latest ROM.
CWM have option to Nandroid backup
some CWM having touch GUI as well option to backup/restore EFS,kernel,recovery and more
you can read this thraed OP for more detail function of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028103
Mobile odin is just flasher, you can flash any file in .bin/img/tar/flashable zip as well while flashing it can inject superSU to keep root intact.
you can't compare both, as both having its own function as well limitation.
you are saying to flash zip file is just common feature available in both, though once can't replace others because of other features.
Hmmm,
Exynos abuse works on my 4.1.1 though. clearly it wont work on 4.1.2 stock roms though.
So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.? if i can, then for some reason need to go back to stock for recovery i can easily and use triangle away if needed to..?
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dr.ketan said:
exynose abuse won't work on latest ROM.
CWM have option to Nandroid backup
some CWM having touch GUI as well option to backup/restore EFS,kernel,recovery and more
you can read this thraed OP for more detail function of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028103
Mobile odin is just flasher, you can flash any file in .bin/img/tar/flashable zip as well while flashing it can inject superSU to keep root intact.
you can't compare both, as both having its own function as well limitation.
you are saying to flash zip file is just common feature available in both, though once can't replace others because of other features.
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Jay_Nz said:
1.So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.?
2. if i can, then for some reason need to go back to stock for recovery i can easily and use triangle away if needed to..?
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1.yes
2.you can flash stock rom with odin (pc /mobile) and can use triangle away (needs root)
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So for me to use omega rom I must have cwm. Means I can't install omega or any other custom rom using mobile odin on my exynosabuse rooted app phone.?
Its just you said I can't use mobile odin and other user urkashgupta said I can install custom roms just use mobile odin without having cwm.
2 people 2 different opinions so it's confusing
dr.ketan said:
1.yes
2.you can flash stock rom with odin (pc /mobile) and can use triangle away (needs root)
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Where I said you can't use mobile odin to flash custom rom?
Just read above post, i can read YES in first reply
Of course you can
You asked
Jay_Nz said:
So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.?
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I replied with YES
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hi ketan,
i think slight misunderstanding in my question. my question said :"and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin?- to that you said yes.
so i thought you said yes i cant .. but its all good so you say i can use mobile odin to flash omega or other custom roms even though i dont have cwm.
its all good. i will try it and see how it goes.
thanks again.
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dr.ketan said:
Where I said you can't use mobile odin to flash custom rom?
Just read above post, i can read YES in first reply
Of course you can
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Ok got it
Apologies.
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kindly dont apologize.. you are too good to be apologetic. small mistakes like this happen. you have helped me many times. its all good..
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dr.ketan said:
Ok got it
Apologies.
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Anyway just like to add one suggestion.
If you want to flash custom rom, I recommend to use cwm
See what is reason to not to use cwm, I can see is you won't reset counter isn't?
But I think most of custom rom itself have custom recovery/kernel and rom itself raise counter, B'coz once you flash custom rom your recovery will be replaced by recovery that included in rom. So ultimately no meaning to use mobile odin to keep recovery stock.
Another reason it's my personal experience, flashing zip with CWM is more solid and hardly I have seen case where it fails to do so.
I do recommend to use mobile odin to flash zip files only when you need to flash some mod, which just used to replace some applications or framework of stock rom. But still you want to stay on stock rom.
So in summary :
Mobile odin is best
to flash stock rom without pc,
To keep root while flashing stock rom
To flash mods
To flash individual component like only recovery, kernel, modem
CWM is best to flash
Custom roms
Nandroid backup
Aroma file manager or
Some inbuilt features of cwm
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This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
toy2boy said:
This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
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If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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KorGuy123 said:
If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
toy2boy said:
I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
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Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
ikjadoon said:
Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
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Right, and that's what I'm getting at, because I did NOT install a custom recovery. Okay, wrong place for the post, got it - was directed by a system generated message is all.
Yeah, this is not a stupid question and I would think someone will know the answer based on the method I used to attain root, with my model phone. It either will update, or it won't. I'm trying to understand known future scenarios because I rooted.
And there is a link to UNROOTING here that the system won't allow me list, I tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
Odin back to stock with firmware included in above thread .
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If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
pappcam said:
If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
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Ah ok. I'll have to understand the steps necessary to do that.
So flashing a stock ROM removes root, and then re-root the same method as I used.
Thanks all for the input thus far.
To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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CYRAXDroid said:
To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
toy2boy said:
Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
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to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
xBeerdroiDx said:
to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
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Yeah, that's exactly what my plan is now.
1) Added root via Odin (Mr. Robinson's method)
2) Downloaded Titanium Backup Pro, ran a full backup / set schedules to keep 2 copies of incremental backups weekly.
3) Downloaded various other apps taking advantage of root
4) Created a file system structure on the PC for ROOT / UNROOT
5) Made sure I have the necessary files in each folder including stock ROMs for root / unroot
6) Wrote the procedures to go both directions easily (no forgetting months down the road).
7) Automated backups from the phone to PC
8) Automated backups of ALL on PC to various external media for storage
- I included TriangleAway in case I flash custom ROMs and need to reset my flash counter.
Currently it's state is NO [as the above process did NOT trip the counter].
- My plan is to Odin flash the next stock ROM with root once available as you mentioned. [Will also update the OEM ROM to unroot at the same time.]
Being new to this (and smart phones) - I needed a method to control this device and not allow it to control me.
Now I feel a sense of stability that I can go in either direction, not lose data, and not lose my sanity in the process.
Thanks for your time!
Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Not so sure about Voodoo OTA because i've never used it, but yes you have to 100% stock to use the OTA.
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Hello
I am using note 2 and would like to understand if its worth rooting the device or not? I have not rooted any device in the past. Are there any features that i will loose after rooting?
if yes please suggest which ROM.
Thanks
hellobye80 said:
Hello
I am using note 2 and would like to understand if its worth rooting the device or not? I have not rooted any device in the past. Are there any features that i will loose after rooting?
if yes please suggest which ROM.
Thanks
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You.!!! ! Kidding me ???!! Why not root + without root u can not flash any custom rom ...sir
So which phone u were using previously ? Iphone or nokia 3310 lolz. Any ways look for Android Revolution HD 19 or wanam Lite v2.9 both are based on latest stock samsung roms for good start.
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Lets start at the beginning - rooting your device means you have "Administrator" rights on it and gives you the ability to do stuff you aren't supposed to do without root. The most basic example is - block most of the ads you see when browsing the web with your favorite browser and when using your apps.
It also gives you the ability to flash custom ROMs (which are new "Operating Systems" that have been modified for the better by other XDA members), install more root apps that let you do incredible things, and lets you change your DPI (making all the stuff on your phone smaller, thus giving you more things to see on your phone at any given time!).
In short, there are countless of possibilities. I'd recommend sticking with the Samsung based ROMs for a start as they will be more familiar. Specifically, I would recommend starting with Phoenix ROM (found here). It might be a big ROM (weighing 1.5GBs to download), but contains most of the features you'd ever need. I started with it and no matter which other ROM I try I just can't find anything better.
Please note, however, that you're better off reading about how to root, flash new recoveries and ROMs, what's EFS and how to backup it, and understanding what you're about to do before starting. Everything can be found on these forums
Good luck
The only thing you'd be losing is your warranty.
10/10 would recommend rooting.
Can we rollback to Samsung provided OS incase have to claim warranty due to some issue?
What are the chances of bricking the phone?
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Yes you can, you can roll back to non-rooted original ROM. Not sure if it applies to all ROMs but some methods of rooting increase flash count which can be seen by technicians thus voiding your warranty. but there are ways to remove it/set back to 0. Just do what Freezeil said and read through the Dev section and see what can be done and the outcomes of actions taken. Personally I've only got Root on my N2 as all I wanted was to install several apps that require root(Titanium Back Up, Root Explorer, Lucky Patcher, etc.) and I'll be sticking to original ROMs on it, i.e. no custom ROMs. but it'll all depend on what you want. On my N1 I'm running different ROMs depending on my mood and I like experimenting with it. But always make sure you make a back up of your ROM and EFS file which contains your IMEI coz if it goes while flashing, it's a ***** to get back on your own.
If you do root check out the xposed framework and its apps. There is just about every customisation possible, its worth rooting for that alone
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The only thing you'd be losing is your warranty.
10/10 would recommend rooting.
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rooting does not void warranty as now contributors and dev here has done great job as even after root the binary status remain unchanged so the only thing u need to do is just a click to unroot and if anything goes wrong still samsung wont be able to make out it was rooted you can check pre rooted odex rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230250 its normal samsung stuff with root priveledge u even have mods now to root it one click ,the only thing which voids warranty is custom recovery which can be reverted as already mentioned.
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Can we rollback to Samsung provided OS incase have to claim warranty due to some issue?
What are the chances of bricking the phone?
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suggest u to download the odex rooted latest rom linked above and as those are samsung firmware default ,only if u want the latest firmware orelse just go rooting ,if u like custom then get your recovery to philz or twrp
note:backup your efs atleast 2 to 3 times just to be safe and keep it on pc or online storage
I like samsung rom which is pre-installed and would love if i can only get root access to this. So i should look for a way to get root access to this version itself. Can i achieve that? Any link that i can follow?
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Galaxy toolkit is a simple tool to enable you to root your phone.
The main thing you will lose if you root is sky go if you use it. New eu law States you shouldn't lose your warranty either.
But you need to ask your self is it right for you to root your phone?
If you want increased volume, better anti theft protection, fewer ads, firewall, sd card memory swap, ability to Flash different roms, kernels etc etc etc.
The best rom I've found by a country mile is Jedi 17 rom.
Good luck and post back your findings
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hellobye80 said:
I like samsung rom which is pre-installed and would love if i can only get root access to this. So i should look for a way to get root access to this version itself. Can i achieve that? Any link that i can follow?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445480 here u go
Finally rooted my note 2 with stock rom today.
Will i get an update when Samsung push 4.3?
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Will i get an update when Samsung push 4.3?
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The day you are going to get a 4.3 update from Samsung is light years away. Let's conclude, it's too early to worry about it.:highfive:
@hellobye80
To get OTA just use Multitool mentioned in a link just above your post by @shhbz
select clean option
then open SuperSU app - setting -Full unroot.
After this you should get OTA, in case you didn't get try factory reset.
Still issue, you can get 4.3 (OR ant ROM) by flashing with Odin.
Thanks All.
Is there any app that i can use to restrict some permissions that are allowed to some applications like "Facebook" app that has access to "call phone number directly" .
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Use xPrivacy xposed module.
First search xposed framework then you can get xPrivacy from that framework application itself.
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I am all set. Thanks everyone for all the inputs.
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@hellobye80
To get OTA just use Multitool mentioned in a link just above your post by @shhbz
select clean option
then open SuperSU app - setting -Full unroot.
After this you should get OTA, in case you didn't get try factory reset.
Still issue, you can get 4.3 (OR ant ROM) by flashing with Odin.
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I was reading a few articles and found something about flash counters. Do i have to worry about resetting the flash counters and if yes how can i do that? i am on stock rom with root access. i have followed this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" to root my phone using "1.Root with Stock Recovery - CF auto Root from Chainfire"
hellobye80 said:
I was reading a few articles and found something about flash counters. Do i have to worry about resetting the flash counters and if yes how can i do that? i am on stock rom with root access. i have followed this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" to root my phone using "1.Root with Stock Recovery - CF auto Root from Chainfire"
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@dr.ketan I used Triangle Away to reset my counter ... now my last worry is to be able to get 4.3 that is expected to be released by end of this month... what is the process to get a OTA and also have Root access with Stock OS. please suggest
Upgrade to 4.3 with root
Hello
JB 4.3 for N7100 is now released for Note 2 in India.
I am currently using n7100 with stock 4.1.2 which was rooted using Method 1 as mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" (Thanks to @dr.ketan for step-by-step guide). using this method I was also able to reset the flash counter to 0.
Now i want to have Stock 4.3 on my device and have root access again. is there a similar guide available that i can follow to achieve this?
I also read about Samsung KNOX and its added to the 4.3 but not sure if i understand that correctly. is there any issues with rooting a phone with 4.3?
Please Suggest
Thanks
For starters, I am using an SGH-i747, that shipped with 4.3.
Now, I am not new to rooting/modding my phone. My previous phone, the Samsung Infuse 4G, was very easy to root, install recoveries/ flash ROMs, and unroot. I could go from stock 2.2 to 4.4 in 30 minutes. And I did, a lot. But reading up for the past few days on this phone is making me feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. Plus, there are very mixed results with rooting the GS3 on 4.3 successfully.
''Read the rooting tutorials'', I have, they are from 2012/ early 2013. It is 2014, thing have changed. One, there's apparently this ''KNOX'' thing that triggers when you flash anything that's not from Odin, and there's no back-to-stock 4.3 or any previous Android version because the bootloader has changed. I'm not really worried about Knox ending my warranty forever, I'm worried about the event that I somehow brick my phone, there's no going back to stock.
Looking at the CF-auto root by Chainfire, the amount of bad votes HERE for the SAMSUNG SGH-I747 is disheartening. Also, that the post hasn't been edited since Nov. 2012...
Unless someone has a surefire way to get root (and maybe a custom recovery) I would like advice on if THIS video looks legit.. If it is, then after I gain root, should I be able to download a recovery from ROM Manager or something similar? (I'm asking because that's how easy it was on my Infuse)
I feel very weird posting in the QA section, as I have only done so maybe 4 times...but any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to clear anything up, for some reason, feel free to tell me. I'll probably be hovering over this thread like a vulture.
You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
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You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
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But the things I want to install from the recovery will require root. Would using the custom recovery to flash a superuser.apk give me root access?
Edit; thought after posting, would flashing a ROM with superuser work with just having a custom recovery?
I prefer installing a custom recovery via Odin rather than ROM manager. Most ROMs are pre-rooted. If it's not, you can download SupeUS or Superuser and flash in recovery.
In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
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In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
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Oh boy, I hope you're right.
Edit 1; ok, backing up now, this works.
Edit 2; after a successful backup and pressing reboot, TWRP prompted me that I hadn't yet installed SU, which it then allowed me to install. Reboot and open the app drawer, it was there, but had to update from the play store. Voila, rooted with a custom recovery, thank you to both for assistance! It was easier than I thought it was going to be.
No problem.
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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I guess since I already have a thread opened, I'll ask this, too;
What's the difference between the Android Development and the Original android Development? The forum for my previous phone only had 1 development section, so most of the layout of this entire forum is new to me.
theramsey3 said:
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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How is the MJ2 bootloader going to be used when the phone already came shipped with 4.3? It already has the MJB bootloader.
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MJ2 wont flash very well. But they also have it with the MJB bootloader and stuff so no fear just use the correct stuff and you shall get it aswell .
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