[Q] Should i have GPU rendering on? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Im running android revolution hd and theres a mod to enable force gpu rendering, So i'm just wondering if its good for a half gamer and half hard core phone user to have to it on to get better performance? I'm using trinity 1.3 ghz 4.2.2 kernel btw

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To paraphrase the OP
"There's a switch and I don't know what it does. Should I mess with it?"

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CPU power

Hi there, the current CPU max for Desire HD on stock is 1GHz.
If we change to other custom ROMs and it allows us increase the normal 1GHz to say, 1.5GHz.. (overclocking?) will it damage our hardware?
Cause as far as I know the software should be supported with a powerful hardware as well.
Overclocking always has the possibility to damage the cpu. And as not all cpu's are the same, if you want to overclock, the best way is to start of slowly say 1.1ghz. And keep stepping it up slowly. If your device begins to get unstable, go back a step, and you will pretty much know the level of your cpu fyi ive had mine overclocked to 2ghz and it seemed to run fine, although i didnt keep it at that level for long. lol
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I've been using minne over clocked at 1.5ghz since the day I bought it and I've not noticed anything as far as hardware failure. Being a computer technician I'm constantly trying to run what I have at the fastest rate without fail. I've not felt any overheating and per temps I've only seen about a 5-8°c increase over another user at work on the same ROM.
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I have been running mine DHD at 1,2 for some time and ofc there is a chance that the CPU fries, because of the OC, but I don't think the chance is very big.
But please remember that the warranty of the phone dosn't cover overclocking
Hmm.. ok. Thanks for the advice.
I shall consider carefully before doing anything. Currently I am at only 1190MHz. Lol.
Anyway thanks again.
Well,I am running a really nice 1.8GHz,stable and fast as hell.Never noticed any overheating.
What most people should bear in mind is that the physical limits of our cpus aren't the ones that the manufacturers tell us they are with their spec sheets.Almost always,cpus are tested in higher clock speeds than what they are sold with,just to be stable and safe.
And one more thing.Correct me if I'm wrong,but doesn't the Flyer share the same cpu as the DHD?Cause it runs @1.5GHz stock.If they have the same cpu,guess what this means for us!
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In my, I can use up to 1190, higher - websites in flash crash
ROM: Android Revolution HD 2.0.16
Kernel: Buzz OC/UV 1.61Ghz
What is a good program to test CPU stability ?
alpine17 said:
In my, I can use up to 1190, higher - websites in flash crash
ROM: Android Revolution HD 2.0.16
Kernel: Buzz OC/UV 1.61Ghz
What is a good program to test CPU stability ?
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In setcpu,go to the info tab and do a stress test for some minutes.If it doesn't crash or anything you're good to go!
Thanks.
I did two ten-minute tests in SetCPU, the first 1,53Ghz and second 1.61Ghz, both without errors.
Anyone have any idea ?
Lol. Guess I will just try increasing the GHz slowly. Trying 1.3 now
I dived straight in, and set it to 1.5. No problems so far. Done a stress test successfully. But is there any need to increase the minimum level?
alpine17 said:
In my, I can use up to 1190, higher - websites in flash crash
ROM: Android Revolution HD 2.0.16
Kernel: Buzz OC/UV 1.61Ghz
What is a good program to test CPU stability ?
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If you clocked your cpu too high, your complete phone will freeze. That means the only possibility to restart it is by pulling the battery.
If your browser closes suddenly without any notification, it's app related and not due to an overclocked cpu.
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Can i overclock my HTC Desire HD when I still have the standard vodafone rom on it?
Can someone tell me how to do this pls?
Thnx
Flussen said:
If you clocked your cpu too high, your complete phone will freeze. That means the only possibility to restart it is by pulling the battery.
If your browser closes suddenly without any notification, it's app related and not due to an overclocked cpu.
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You're right pal.I don't remember who asked,and am too bored to look for it right now,but it also happened to me with stock unrooted rom.
benno4403 said:
Can i overclock my HTC Desire HD when I still have the standard vodafone rom on it?
Can someone tell me how to do this pls?
Thnx
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Well,to overclock you'll need a custom kernel,which means you'll have to be rooted and have at least clockworkmod recovery installed.ENG and Radio S-OFF are recommended.
Flussen said:
If you clocked your cpu too high, your complete phone will freeze. That means the only possibility to restart it is by pulling the battery.
If your browser closes suddenly without any notification, it's app related and not due to an overclocked cpu.
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ok I know, but I do not understand why when I enter the page, for example: speedtest, after a few seconds the phone is completely frozen (o / c) 1.22Ghz
I watch movies, play games, do tests, benchmark, etc. (o / c) 1.22 Ghz - 1.53Ghz. Everything is ok.
just a few seconds in the flash player and death:
Did someone try do downclock CPU to say 800MHz. Will it improve battery life?
benno4403 said:
Can i overclock my HTC Desire HD when I still have the standard vodafone rom on it?
Can someone tell me how to do this pls?
Thnx
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Yes you can, you need to root, s-off and install a custom kernel first though.
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catevs said:
Did someone try do downclock CPU to say 800MHz. Will it improve battery life?
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Yes underclocking will improve battery like, at the cost of performance
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alpine17 said:
ok I know, but I do not understand why when I enter the page, for example: speedtest, after a few seconds the phone is completely frozen (o / c) 1.22Ghz
I watch movies, play games, do tests, benchmark, etc. (o / c) 1.22 Ghz - 1.53Ghz. Everything is ok.
just a few seconds in the flash player and death:
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Flash it quite a cpu intensive task, thats why
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alpine17 said:
ok I know, but I do not understand why when I enter the page, for example: speedtest, after a few seconds the phone is completely frozen (o / c) 1.22Ghz
I watch movies, play games, do tests, benchmark, etc. (o / c) 1.22 Ghz - 1.53Ghz. Everything is ok.
just a few seconds in the flash player and death:
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Well,as AndroHero said,Flash is quite CPU intensive.However,your problem could be caused by the fact that your CPU isn't as "good" as others.By "not good" I don't mean that your CPU's quality is bad,it's just that it is unique like every CPU(nanometer scale devices like transistors are hard to be produced and be exactly the same one with another) and it might need you to up the voltages for higher frequencies.That by itself is no problem.
If the problem is indeed your CPU's limits,as it could be app related as Flussen said,and if you are running LeeDroid's rom or at least have his kernel installed,I could provide you with the OC script I am using myself.You see,I too am "suffering" from problems with the CPU not being able to handle too high overclocks,so I had to up voltages.Fortunately not much!
catevs said:
Did someone try do downclock CPU to say 800MHz. Will it improve battery life?
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Well,in theory it should improve battery life.But calculating battery performance is a hard and tricky process.Just think about it this way;The CPU will run at lower voltages while at its reduced max frequency,thus needing a smaller electric current.However,it will need to run at the max speed for a larger amount of time.So,what you finally get is reduced drain,but for longer periods,meaning the gains in battery life could be minimum to non-existent.I for one am running 1.8GHz and battery life is just as good as @1GHz.

Ways for having the best performance in games

Hey guys.
I wanted to know to get the best performance in the game, what steps do you go?
And what is the best ROM for the game? No matter the Jelly Belly 's or IceCream Sandwich, just tell me which are the best thing that I need?
For example,running the Batman, or Modern Combat 3
ROM and personalization capabilities of its beauty is not important to me. I just want to run games smoothly!
Please tell:
1 Android version that you use
2 Which ROM do you use?
3 Which kernel do you use?
4 Do you use (a) special program(s)?
5 and personal experience ....
6 What suggestions do you have?
The goal is to minimize the lag in games
Thanks
Very much
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I wouldn't worry about the ROM. Just get a fast kernel with an overclocked GPU. Stable Trinity kernel has just been released in several overclock variations. Just use the fastest one that runs on your gnex without problems. Might try the 1420/384 or 1420/537. Then use Trinity Kernel Toolkit to turn up the minimum CPU speed one notch, from 307 to 6##. That makes more of a difference than overclocking the maximum CPU speed IMO. Experiment with different governor settings, too. The default (on-demand) is better for battery life than performance. Works on practically any Jellybean based ROM, and there's a version for ICS too. You can also play with the hardware overlay and force GPU settings in gnex developer section.
I agreee with strumcat. Kernel matters most, and Trinity is what I'm using now. And yeah, setting the governor and the min CPU will help.
Thank you!
You know?
I remember when Jelly bean was released, I tried Franco kernel & Trinity kernel on ice cream sandwich , both in frequency of 384 (or 386, can not remember) were stable, but at frequencies 512 (or higher) when running games, everything was corrupted and I could not play!
(Even the samurai against zombies!)
(I do not know this problem has recently been solved or not)
The problem is the ROM or the kernel?
(I am a novice in the use of kernel; Whether a particular adjustment would be done that I forget?)
Different phones are able to handle different amounts of overclocking. But I'd guess that the TNP1344-384-JB-STABLE Trinity kernel would work on most gnex phones without trouble. The 537 GPU has trouble on some phones but not others. So your experience was not unusual and doesn't indicate any inherent problem with the Trinity or Franco kernels. The higher speed kernels aren't really for everyday use.
hey buddy!!!
u know what's my setting for playing

can i overclock cpu in cm9 ?

my friend's sgw overclock cpu to 1.6GHZ and he can play "amazing spider man" without some lag , so can i overclock in cm9?
weihan1102 said:
my friend's sgw overclock cpu to 1.6GHZ and he can play "amazing spider man" without some lag , so can i overclock in cm9?
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Check the development section, There's a kernel with OC capability
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reidzeibel said:
Check the development section, There's a kernel with OC capability
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1855557 is this correct?
kernel-CFS-UV-OC-29082012-V2.1.zip -
yap that is. using it till 1,7 Ghz and smooth/stable
However, no game will run fluid if it already has major lags with the stock frequency.
Especially lags that are caused by memory management can not be fully compensated by raw CPU-power.
So for better gaming experience, other control levers might be more effective, like uninstalling apps with background activities or disabling home screen in-memory-lock, if enabled. Exceptionally, before starting huge games, cleaning RAM can also avoid some lags at the beginning, as you anticipate androids low memory killer methods this way.

[Q] OC problem

i've heard some people can OC their GIO to 921MHz stable, but on my gio it can't even get stable on 883Mhz. on 864MHz is somewhat stable but i still get hung or FC randomly, im super stable at 844MHz.
Why does my phone can't be OC like them other guys?
Not all devices are made exactly the same. Processors can behave differently as do the batteries and other hardware.
bogdanwp said:
Not all devices are made exactly the same. Processors can behave differently as do the batteries and other hardware.
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is there nothing i can do? i've tried many ROMS, on some i can get to 921 for a few seconds, but still the same. will changing kernel help?
Why not stop overclocking ? Just find a very fast rom and then you can save the overclocking , hence the instability and hotness and draining battery. That way you will have longer life on your Gio.
L.E. : just change the minimum frequency to 245 and refrain from using roms that are heavy right now , like CM 10.1 , try anything based on gingerbread like Adrenaline or Enhanced 2.3.6 or DebianDroid for example , or AOSP ICS wich i find very fast.
bogdanwp said:
Why not stop overclocking ? Just find a very fast rom and then you can save the overclocking , hence the instability and hotness and draining battery. That way you will have longer life on your Gio.
L.E. : just change the minimum frequency to 245 and refrain from using roms that are heavy right now , like CM 10.1 , try anything based on gingerbread like Adrenaline or Enhanced 2.3.6 or DebianDroid for example , or AOSP ICS wich i find very fast.
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well currently im using AOKP milestone 6 CM9 based, i use conservative governor 245-844MHz, installed adrenaline engine 4.4, and pim my rom and set my OOM and LMK to medium settings. battery is drained only when im using data or playing games obviously. actually this ROM is superb for me performance wise, its just, i feel like i can squeeze a bit more of it for playing games you know. its like i see this slight lagging and i thought if only i could use a little more CPU power, the lag will be gone
Even you can overclock a 1st gen AMD Duron to 2Ghz with liquid nitrogen, it just doesn't make sense doing it
AW: [Q] OC problem
i can oc my cpu to 960mhz but i think it makes no sense... you don't feel the extra speed in normal use only in benchmarks... my cpu is set to 480mhz because it's enough for every app i am using (facebook, whatsapp, xda, browser and so on).

[Q] Kernel and CPU overclock issues

So I have found that recently every kernel I try to over clock with will cause bad performance on my phone. I am judging this based on benchmarks which should improve when you over clock (I know benchmarks aren't everything, just using them to compare). Every time I over clock to 1.89 it automatically reboots no matter what kernel or rom I am running. No one else in the kernel thread has this issue. If I run benchmarks with the max clock anything above the stock 1.5Ghz makes my benchmark performance absolutely drop. I have tried:
-multiple kernels and ROM combinations
-multiple CPU managers (ROM toolbox to CM performance control)
-multiple bench markers
Did I somehow destroy my CPU on higher clocks somehow?
And I know I don't need OC for good performance, I am just wondering what's up here. It wasn't always like this.
It's not necessarily anything you did. Not all devices are created equally. Some phone can run at 2.1GHZ and get amazing battery life. You just got dealt a bad phone that doesn't over clock well.
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Yes, if you go over 1890Mhz your phone will restart or get stuck in a bootloop. As the person above said is right. Some phones can go up to 2000MHz and some can't. My Gs3 can overclock to 1890 but I keep mine at 1809.
1. Benchmark apps have no use at all.
Its literally just numbers thrown at you. They have no reflection on real world performance.
2.No one phone is the same. Your phone maybe able to go up to 1.8 with out an issue, but other phones might not even make it past 1.7 I even know of a GS3 that runs at 2.1Ghz with out a problem.
3.OC isn't really needed on an S3 if you're having lag issues or anything Odin back to stock and start again.
I personally run my S3 at 1.1Ghz.
I use custom kernels to under clock and not over as over clocking can drain your battery. Your phone will always reboot past 1.8 regardless of the kernel. That's just how your phone works.
Galaxy S3 / AoCP / V4A / Turbocharged

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