So I have found that recently every kernel I try to over clock with will cause bad performance on my phone. I am judging this based on benchmarks which should improve when you over clock (I know benchmarks aren't everything, just using them to compare). Every time I over clock to 1.89 it automatically reboots no matter what kernel or rom I am running. No one else in the kernel thread has this issue. If I run benchmarks with the max clock anything above the stock 1.5Ghz makes my benchmark performance absolutely drop. I have tried:
-multiple kernels and ROM combinations
-multiple CPU managers (ROM toolbox to CM performance control)
-multiple bench markers
Did I somehow destroy my CPU on higher clocks somehow?
And I know I don't need OC for good performance, I am just wondering what's up here. It wasn't always like this.
It's not necessarily anything you did. Not all devices are created equally. Some phone can run at 2.1GHZ and get amazing battery life. You just got dealt a bad phone that doesn't over clock well.
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Yes, if you go over 1890Mhz your phone will restart or get stuck in a bootloop. As the person above said is right. Some phones can go up to 2000MHz and some can't. My Gs3 can overclock to 1890 but I keep mine at 1809.
1. Benchmark apps have no use at all.
Its literally just numbers thrown at you. They have no reflection on real world performance.
2.No one phone is the same. Your phone maybe able to go up to 1.8 with out an issue, but other phones might not even make it past 1.7 I even know of a GS3 that runs at 2.1Ghz with out a problem.
3.OC isn't really needed on an S3 if you're having lag issues or anything Odin back to stock and start again.
I personally run my S3 at 1.1Ghz.
I use custom kernels to under clock and not over as over clocking can drain your battery. Your phone will always reboot past 1.8 regardless of the kernel. That's just how your phone works.
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Does anyone know how to over clock you're DI to say 1.2? Thanks for any help.
You first need to root your phone, then install a kernel that is compatible with whatever rom you are using, then you need to install an OCing app like SetCPU and adjust accordingly.
I'm rooted running the 2.2 RUU and I have set cpu. So do I just need a kernal? Which one?
i reccomend King Kernel bfs #4, best freaken kernel ever... its located... here
so when i install this kernal is it ok to just bump the cpu speed up to 1.2? are there any guides to do this?
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so when i install this kernal is it ok to just bump the cpu speed up to 1.2? are there any guides to do this?
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A lot of factors come into play when you start overclocking, every rom will respond differently.
The first thing to do before anything is to do a complete nandroid back up.
When overclocking keep in mind that the more you overclock the more chances you have of making your system unstable.
I have experimented a quite a bit and I have found that the King Kernal #4 seems to work well for me and at 1.2 it seems to be pretty stable. Any higher than that and my phone will sometimes re-boot itself for no apparent reason.
Again, your rom may handle things different so experiment and see what works best for you.
And remember - Do a complete backup first!
I'm using the number 4 kernal and it only goes to 1.19 is this what you mean by 1.2? I have to keep mine at 1.1 ghz at 1.19 my di gets unstable
Ya that's as high as they can oc these chips. I can only get to 115 safely 119 just crashes. But the charging experience will be better than stock with the BFS #4.
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Could you guys please tell me what your settings for setcpu are?
I want better battery life and a faster cpu but im noticing that my phone almost needs a wake up time when i come out of screen off.
Thanks so much
makos101 said:
Could you guys please tell me what your settings for setcpu are?
I want better battery life and a faster cpu but im noticing that my phone almost needs a wake up time when i come out of screen off.
Thanks so much
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If you are experiencing slow wake up, try increasing the min cpu speed to something around 460. Better batt life and increased speed takes a lot of experimenting. Your OC speed might differ from others due to differences in the phones cpu. For example, I have never been able to oc to 1.19 without the phone freezing or rebooting. My phone can handle 1152 but 1113 is perfect. In my opinion, ROMs have something to due with best batt-speed combo. I am running Ruby 1.1.1 with a setcpu profile of Screen off=245 without any wake lag. Other ROMs I have tried had wake up lag at that speed profile.
My set up:
(ROM-ASOP) Ruby 1.1.1
King's #1 ASOP "I told you so"- only works with ASOP
With the ROM's "Gem" performance scaling setting off, I use setcpu to OC to 1113, min is 245. I have a profile set to SCREEN OFF = 384 max/245 min.
I haven't worried about battery life since I started using King's kernals (I've tried them all with every compatible ROM on xda). I have several posts elsewhere on XDA showing 12 plus hours on a single bump charge and heavy phone use. Good enough for me. Stock cpu speed plus Sense ROM seems slow to me now.....to each his own though.
I hope to get some help because i value the opinions of those on this forum. Currently i am running virtuous 2.7 with virt. kernal v2. I am rooted, s-off, 2.15.xx radio. I want performance without draining my battery. What are the best settings to use in setcpu?
I did try king's kernal #4, but it was rebooting. switched kernals this morning.
One other app I use in conjunction with SetCPU is MinFreeManager. This will readjust your free ram to a higher standard. But with SetCPU I have it at 1113/Ondemand with no custom profiles. One other thing I really don't set is the Set on Boot option. I don't know why but I do. So with SkyRaider Vanilla 3.0 RC3/ KingX Kernel #4/ and MinFreeManager my phone fly's. I can't say for certain what settings you need for your phone but 1113-1115 is preferred by "most" phones and keep the set on boot option off. I keep a Galaxy S live wallpaper running and pandora while browsing the web and no lag what-so-ever.
CyanogenMod 6.0.2 and KingX kernel #1 with the same setup runs almost as smooth.
Hope this helps you out.
What are the safe/stable clockspeeds for underclocking and overclocking my Desire Z? Also, what app do I use? Like, I don't mind paying for the app (as long as it's not too expensive)
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SetCPU can be used to overclock if you're rooted. Depending on the ROM and Kernel combination, overclocking to about 1.3ghz is usually safe. Some go up to 1.5ghz or even 1.8ghz, but are often quite unstable depending on other configurations you have in your ROM.
As far as underclocking goes, some custom kernels clock all the way down to 122mhz, I've been using a streamline5 kernel on CM7 (which offers 122mhz min) and haven't had any ill effects with this.
I have the Virtuous Sense ROM (with it's default kernel, although it does have other kernels which can give other cpu speeds), right now but might try out another ROM soon (maybe) do you know what's the min and safe max for this ROM?
Also, can I just set a particular clock speed (e.g. 500MHz) and it should be ok or is there any stability difference between say 500MHz and 505MHz? Just curious. I looked at SetCPU and it looks like a good one. Also, if the clock speed I set makes things go wrong, can I revert it or can I get stuck with it and need to do a wipe?
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I have the Virtuous Sense ROM (with it's default kernel, although it does have other kernels which can give other cpu speeds), right now but might try out another ROM soon (maybe) do you know what's the min and safe max for this ROM?
Also, can I just set a particular clock speed (e.g. 500MHz) and it should be ok or is there any stability difference between say 500MHz and 505MHz? Just curious. I looked at SetCPU and it looks like a good one. Also, if the clock speed I set makes things go wrong, can I revert it or can I get stuck with it and need to do a wipe?
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No, there's no need to set a particular clock speed. Just whatever works for you. I wouldn't recommend going under 800mhz, as the phone will really really bog down even with normal use.
I haven't used that particular ROM, but I'm assuming anywhere around 1.3ghz should be safe on the upper limit. Like I said before, anything above that might start to cause issues. You might also want to consider the battery life implications of severe overclocking.
You can change the clock speed any time you want. If you're having wakeup or heat or any other issues just go back to SetCPU and change the max clock speed again. You can also use profiles in SetCPU to change the clock speed when the phone is overheating, or when the screen is off, or when the battery gets to a certain %. There are tons of posts detailing how others have setup their SetCPU profiles.
One last note, don't forget to check the box for "Set on Boot" in SetCPU, this way your changes aren't undone on reboot.
Thank, I think I got everything I need to know in your last reply
I'm on CM7, with the CM7 kernel, and clocked in at 1.5GHz, and have no problems, and the rom is super fast. And I use SetCPU.
Notes about Battery Saver script
Can be used with kernels that have init.d support
It completely eliminates the need for an application to set CPU speeds or profiles
Easily customizable if you use a text editor(scripts located in /system/etc/init.d)
It will set Max CPU speed to 500MHz & Min CPU speed to 200MHz when a sleep
If SetCPU, Overclock Widget, Android Overclock or QuickClock Advanced Overclock are detected, the script is ignored, so it will not affect them
Preset profiles are:
1.2GHz - 100-85%
1.0GHz - 84-36%
800MHz - 35-0%
And just an FYI, even at 800MHz, the phone still operates very well & smooth but the battery saving are the real benefit
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Does this mean that if I don't use Set CPU or any app that undervolt it, the phone will AUTOMATICALLY drop the CPU speed according to my battery level:
1.2GHz - 100-85%
1.0GHz - 84-36%
800MHz - 35-0%
Another word, it will automatically drop CPU speed to 800 MHZ when my battery level is 35-0% in order to save battery?
It won't "Drop" the CPU speed, it will lower the Maximum speed the CPU is allowed to ramp up to.
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It won't "Drop" the CPU speed, it will lower the Maximum speed the CPU is allowed to ramp up to.
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So if I am not doing CPU intensive stuff and just play simple games, email, web surfing phone call, then I am not going to see battery improvement since my CPU probably don't ramp past 800MHZ anyway when I am just doing simple stuff.?
Calk's ROM undervolts the CPU at all speeds so that in itself should help a little with battery life. But you are correct, if you are not doing CPU intensive tasks the CPU probably isn't spending much time at the higher speeds.
There is an app called CPUSpy which shows how much time the CPU has spent in each frequency state.
Your phone will ramp up to 1200 mhz more than you think. When it loads a webpage, it will ramp up to 1200, when it's loading your "simple" game, it will max out for a bit, etc.
It might not stay there for very long, but still. The nice thing about Calkuins rom is that even at 800 mhz, the phone is super smooth and lag free. In fact I just turn setcpu down to 800 all the time.
Let me research setcpu and play around with it. Thanks again for the quick answers.
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Your phone will ramp up to 1200 mhz more than you think. When it loads a webpage, it will ramp up to 1200, when it's loading your "simple" game, it will max out for a bit, etc.
It might not stay there for very long, but still. The nice thing about Calkuins rom is that even at 800 mhz, the phone is super smooth and lag free. In fact I just turn setcpu down to 800 all the time.
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The way Calkulin's rom scripts are setup, setcpu gets reset on every reboot, even if you have it set to boot settings. The scripts installed will still take priority and the old rules apply, just to let you know. So you would have to set setcpu every boot for it to work, that or remove the scripts.
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Team era... Does the same idea apply to the blazer 2.0 battery saving script? or does tegrak break it?
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I havnt opened that rom, but Im gonna say the same applies, I remove those scripts, 2 will affect the cpu state.
edit, let me clarify, the scripts take prority, even if the app makes a script for init.d, the original script will take over on a reboot. So the script breaks tegrak, setcpu, and voltage control unless you set the app on every reboot.
I am running Calks 2 and desperado kernel. I notice when using setcpu, if you have it set on boot, it will override calks script.
His script does work well on saving battery life though. I ran oc'd while at 20% and still had 1700mhz blazing on performance gov.
I'd still use Calks script over setcpu or tegrak only due to the fact im too sporatic with my phone use to create optimal profiles to fit the way and when i need to use the device.
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I am running Calks 2 and desperado kernel. I notice when using setcpu, if you have it set on boot, it will override calks script.
His script does work well on saving battery life though. I ran oc'd while at 20% and still had 1700mhz blazing on performance gov.
I'd still use Calks script over setcpu or tegrak only due to the fact im too sporatic with my phone use to create optimal profiles to fit the way and when i need to use the device.
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Actually in my own testing setcpu will not override the scripts, the slider may stay the same, but trust me, it goes back to 800 (or 1200 over 86%batt), Ive tested it several times. If you want proof Ill tell you how to figure it out. I know Im not respected yet, but I am someone that is known under another name that is highly respected, so, take it as you will.
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Era, what's your suggestion for keeping the battery saving scripts running and getting a 1500 ish over clock when needed... something that can do both without having to physically change setcpu everytime. I basically want to permanently over clock to 1.5 and still save as much battery as possible when i have the screen off or it is charging. Idk if setcpu profiles work on this phone because i know they did not work correctly on the galaxy s. And one final question... what voltages do u run at what speeds on the "desperado" kernel to undervolt efficiently?
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Actually in my own testing setcpu will not override the scripts, the slider may stay the same, but trust me, it goes back to 800 (or 1200 over 86%batt), Ive tested it several times. If you want proof Ill tell you how to figure it out. I know Im not respected yet, but I am someone that is known under another name that is highly respected, so, take it as you will.
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ERA. I wasn't looking to say that you were wrong in any way shape or form. I would be interested to know how you seen this as I am still in the beginning phases of learning the android system. I do plan on writing my own kernal/roms but I was actually sharing what my logical thought process would have been given the apps and system info I had avail.
I have a little ways to go in understanding the structure and FS of droid. Time is everyones enemy. Thanks for the correction again!
I havnt opened that rom, but Im gonna say the same applies, I remove those scripts, 2 will affect the cpu state.
edit, let me clarify, the scripts take prority, even if the app makes a script for init.d, the original script will take over on a reboot. So the script breaks tegrak, setcpu, and voltage control unless you set the app on every reboot.
I'm currently running Calkulin's rom v2.5, and even at 41% battery I notice the cpu still hits 1.2 Ghz. Is his script activated by default or am I overlooking something? I also have nothing like setcpu installed.
I was wondering if there were any good apps that could be used to test CPU and GPU stability. I just installed a custom kernel and I want to make sure my clock/voltage tweaks are solid.
The first thing I tried to use was Antutu, but that was no good since it kept bumping my CPU clock above the limit I set, to the max setting allowed by the kernel which would lead to a crash. I have browsed the app store and google a bit, but the stability apps I found were a little old or they haven't been updated recently. Right not im running 3dmark and Vellamo a few times after every clock/voltage adjustment to make sure everything is stable.
Does anyone know of any better tests?
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I was able to undervolt by -100mV and make it through 4 passes of 3dmark and 2 of Vellamo. Just to be safe I went back up to -75mV as my setting for use.
I dont think stress testing is necessarily the key for my situation since the phone was having trouble doing simpler tasks and would sometimes get stuck rebooting. I'm thinking some of the lower clock frequencies need a little more juice and the higher ones may be fine at -75mV
Any thoughts?
I have been using Omega Rom from version 8 up to version 18, then switched to ProBam, then Pacman, and now I'm back on Omega 19, giving the "official" 4.3 a shot.
I have tried many many settings and kernels to get this game run without a lag.
So far, I have seen no lag when using performance governor while playing for a few minutes (no overclocking the CPU or GPU) that was it...
Every other setup gives lag, more or less. The second best setup would be pegasusq governor, not much changes when overclocking CPU or GPU, or both.
Using a stock kernel is also not bad, but lags every now and then. (not dependant on Rom)
But I want to get the sound settings from trickster mod for example, so I feel like I need a custom kernel with my Rom of choice.
So, does anyone have a good setup that matches performance governor, but does not stick permanently to maximum CPU load?
I don't care about battery life, so I need a good performing setup.
(Just on a side note: when people say "there is no lag at all when scrolling through my homescreens" then I can only think that this should be normal with ANY setup. And I never had any lag while scrolling through my homescreens, except while I was using my HTC Hero...)
I would very much appreciate if someone with the same goal could help me out, or someone knows the default settings of the stock kernel...
Or is this whole idea just utopic, because the game is badly coded?