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Any reason to accept the Jelly Bean OTA?

I unlocked, rooted, and flashed the leaked 4.1 update a couple weeks ago. Now I'm getting the notification for the official OTA.
1. Is there any beneficial reason to update?
2. If not, how do I disable the notification from reappearing constantly?
3. If I do update, will I lose root? Will it wipe my phone?

Paul22000 said:
I unlocked, rooted, and flashed the leaked 4.1 update a couple weeks ago. Now I'm getting the notification for the official OTA.
1. Is there any beneficial reason to update?
2. If not, how do I disable the notification from reappearing constantly?
3. If I do update, will I lose root? Will it wipe my phone?
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1. Yes, the OTA update is for 4.1.1 which contains additional fixes, etc. over 4.1. See other threads in this forum for details on the exact differences/improvements.
2. n/a, update to 4.1.1.
3. You will lose root, but if you use CWM to flash the OTA manually just also flash SuperSU immediately after, before rebooting (this is what I do.. there are other "keep root" methods as well, as described in other threads). The OTA update will not wipe your phone.
Note that this assumes you're running the stock odexed and unmodified version from Google I/O. If you're using a modified version, you'll need to flash a factory image and update that. You'll also need to be running the correct radio. See other on-going threads in this forum for more details.
Hope this helps.

This link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764536
I'm not seeing the changes between 4.1.1 and 4.1.
Can anyone provide a link? I'm browsing the desktop website from my phone, so not very convenient to read through every thread.

Anyone?

Look at it from this way: 4.1.1 is Jelly Bean.
4.1 is not Jelly Bean, it's a preview build for developers that is was intended for everyday use. What do you hope to achieve by not updating?

The leak wasn't s finish build ... it was still buggy here and there ..
4.1.1 fixes some things, plus its a major release ...
Why would you want to stay on a leak for?
It takes literally about 5mins to root your device again
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Any reason not to?

Paul22000 said:
I unlocked, rooted, and flashed the leaked 4.1 update a couple weeks ago. Now I'm getting the notification for the official OTA.
1. Is there any beneficial reason to update?
2. If not, how do I disable the notification from reappearing constantly?
3. If I do update, will I lose root? Will it wipe my phone?
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Simply put, update to 4.1.1 and then if your using a Windows PC, install the Toolkit in the Development forum, and then re-root using that, takes all of about 2 minutes.

phazerorg said:
Note that this assumes you're running the stock odexed and unmodified version from Google I/O. If you're using a modified version, you'll need to flash a factory image and update that. You'll also need to be running the correct radio. See other on-going threads in this forum for more details.
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How do I verify that I'm running 100% stock odexed, unmodified and stock radio, bootloader, kernel, boot, system, etc?
I'm pretty sure I am, but I just want to make sure. (What I mean is, I don't know if unlocking and installing Clockwork modified any of the above.)

Should be renamed "any reason not to accept ota"

No go for it say buy to lag and hello to your 1.2ghz dual core processor finally in action...lol enjoy
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To answer your question why I wouldn't want to update, well, here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776888
- Hassle
- Headache
- Wasted time researching this crap
- Frustration
- Possibility of bricking
My phone works perfectly fine on 4.1. 100% perfectly fine. The notification is annoying though, but it seems to have gone away after the failed update.
Does anyone even know what was changed in 4.1.1? I've been searching through these threads and Googling but haven't been able to find a single post detailing the differences.

So it sounds like you were already predetermined to stay on 4.1. Why did you bother asking if you should update if you were only wanting replies that agreed with you!?!
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95Z28 said:
So it sounds like you were already predetermined to stay on 4.1. Why did you bother asking if you should update if you were only wanting replies that agreed with you!?!
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If you look at the OP, I clearly asked if there was any beneficial reason to update. No one posted a single concrete reason to update aside from "it's official". If someone would have posted actual, real improvements that are in 4.1.1, obviously I would have taken that into consideration.

Paul22000 said:
If someone would have posted actual, real improvements that are in 4.1.1, obviously I would have taken that into consideration.
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Simple versioning says that a 4.1 to 4.1.1 update is an extremely minor update to start with. For the most part, it's just some extra polish and a few minor bug fixes. Some people report that it's essentially the same, while others report that 4.1.1 is a bit smoother than 4.1.

Cilraaz said:
Simple versioning says that a 4.1 to 4.1.1 update is an extremely minor update to start with. For the most part, it's just some extra polish and a few minor bug fixes. Some people report that it's essentially the same, while others report that 4.1.1 is a bit smoother than 4.1.
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Thank you! I've Googled this many times but it's been extremely and surprisingly difficult to find out exactly what was changed.

Paul22000 said:
Thank you! I've Googled this many times but it's been extremely and surprisingly difficult to find out exactly what was changed.
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They added an extra .1 to the version number.

Paul22000 said:
If you look at the OP, I clearly asked if there was any beneficial reason to update. No one posted a single concrete reason to update aside from "it's official". If someone would have posted actual, real improvements that are in 4.1.1, obviously I would have taken that into consideration.
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No one can give you a concrete reason, your experience may vary. You've been around long enough to know this. And multiple people did give you their reasons, but they werent what you wanted so they went unheeded.

ROMs, Radios and OTAs

Fairly new to the flashing scene, but seriously loving the freedom and features available to my flashed handsets. Currently using Wicked v1 on my SGS3 and now he's got a new one out that I want to install asap. At nearly the same time an OTA has apparently dropped and there's a new (and improved?) radio/modem flash out there.
My main concern is making sure my handset is as rock solid as possible while having the best available functionality (btw, Wicked rom is an amazing daily driver). Would it be in my best interest to unroot and go back to stock so I can get the OTA and then reroot, flash a rom, flash a radio etc?
OR
Can I just flash Ev1l's new Wicked rom, flash the new radio and not worry about the OTA at all?
I guess you could sum this up as a 'What would you (the experienced pro flasher) do?'
Thanks all.

Krazeee said:
Fairly new to the flashing scene, but seriously loving the freedom and features available to my flashed handsets. Currently using Wicked v1 on my SGS3 and now he's got a new one out that I want to install asap. At nearly the same time an OTA has apparently dropped and there's a new (and improved?) radio/modem flash out there.
My main concern is making sure my handset is as rock solid as possible while having the best available functionality (btw, Wicked rom is an amazing daily driver). Would it be in my best interest to unroot and go back to stock so I can get the OTA and then reroot, flash a rom, flash a radio etc?
OR
Can I just flash Ev1l's new Wicked rom, flash the new radio and not worry about the OTA at all?
I guess you could sum this up as a 'What would you (the experienced pro flasher) do?'
Thanks all.
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I never worry about the OTA's...go for it. The Devs fix all that anyway.

I flashed the new radio over the latest euroskank nightly
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TheAxman said:
I never worry about the OTA's...go for it. The Devs fix all that anyway.
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Awesome. I figured as much, but it's good to know the likelyhood of my opening a wormhole in my livingroom is slightly smaller now.

While you probably won't experience any problems by not worrying about the OTAs, especially since you are not on stock, there are often other elements to an update than just radios. There can also be updates to other partitions on the phone. Sometimes bootloaders, parameters, etc. can be updated also. You won't get these (if you care about them) if you skip the update and just flash the radio. If it were me, I would go back to complete stock with the update and start over. Probably not necessary, but you may want to consider it.

Need help with otas

So I tried updating while rooted, and found that that couldnt be done.
So I unrooted, and now when I check for updates, it says everything is up to date.
I have had this thing since launch, so I know theres a few updates to download.
If anyone can help that would be awesome.
I also did clear cache

OTAs
Sawdizzle said:
So I tried updating while rooted, and found that that couldnt be done.
So I unrooted, and now when I check for updates, it says everything is up to date.
I have had this thing since launch, so I know theres a few updates to download.
If anyone can help that would be awesome.
I also did clear cache
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I'm rather new to Android and rooting, but I've been rooted on my SGS3 since the beginning of July, so I've experienced several OTA notifications. I know you cannot apply an OTA when rooted, generally, but that most Developers will actually update their custom ROMs when a new OTA is pushed. That has been my experience thus far, and how I've "kept" my phone up-to-date. In the change logs you can usually identify which OTA their ROM is based on, and make your decision from that information. Also, I believe most OTAs are carrier-based and not necessarily intended to update the OS or UI, so some of them may not be necessary. The important thing is the baseband (modem) version, as this can directly impact your reception and data speed. There is an excellent tool intended strictly for flashing a new modem, developed by clark44. The link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816530
I would suggest starting at the top of the list, running that modem for at least 2-3 days, then flashing the next one and repeating the process - until you find the one that works for your phone, in your area, based on the places you visit the most frequently.
I hope this helps.

Sprint SG3, ROM is 4.1.2.

Alright folks, bear with me here...this one is odd because I've searched and all the SG3 references for 4.1.2. are custom ROM's. I was having some wonky issues with my Stock Rooted SG3 so I rolled it all the way back using the STOCK ICS version of the SG3 ROM for LP710. After I rolled it back...I freaked out because although the phone was fine, calls could be made, texts came in and all other functionality was good, however, I was getting a "SIM CARD NOT FOUND" message on my notification pane constantly. I was worried I had taken the stock ROM for the wrong carrier.
Instead of flashing it to the newest JB version of the sprint stock ROM...I chose to let it take the updates, see what happens. All in all I believe the phone took 4-5 updates total...and when it was all said and done, about halfway through the updates the sim card issue was gone. But then after I rooted it...I was using it a few hours and I realized some things just seemed different. So i grabbed my wifes SG3...completely stock non rooted phone. I noticed FIRST off that her version of JB was 4.1.1 and MY version is 4.1.2.
Did I miss something? What is Sprints latest ROM version for our SG3's? I've tried updating HER phone and it says it's "UP TO DATE" on ver. 4.1. What gives, anyone know what's up?
***EDIT*** I DID find some mention of 4.1.2 showing up on some Sprint users in diff. locations, but if I got it, why has my wife's phone not gotten it. Anyone else seeing this in Az. or otherwise? I also loaded up Kies and it says "your devices current firmware version is not supported to update firmware via Kies." WTH? All the updates were OTA updates...

Phederico said:
Alright folks, bear with me here...this one is odd because I've searched and all the SG3 references for 4.1.2. are custom ROM's. I was having some wonky issues with my Stock Rooted SG3 so I rolled it all the way back using the STOCK ICS version of the SG3 ROM for LP710. After I rolled it back...I freaked out because although the phone was fine, calls could be made, texts came in and all other functionality was good, however, I was getting a "SIM CARD NOT FOUND" message on my notification pane constantly. I was worried I had taken the stock ROM for the wrong carrier.
Instead of flashing it to the newest JB version of the sprint stock ROM...I chose to let it take the updates, see what happens. All in all I believe the phone took 4-5 updates total...and when it was all said and done, about halfway through the updates the sim card issue was gone. But then after I rooted it...I was using it a few hours and I realized some things just seemed different. So i grabbed my wifes SG3...completely stock non rooted phone. I noticed FIRST off that her version of JB was 4.1.0 (Methinks...i don't have it in front of me anymore) and MY version is 4.1.2.
Did I miss something? What is Sprints latest ROM version for our SG3's? I've tried updating HER phone and it says it's "UP TO DATE" on ver. 4.1. What gives, anyone know what's up?
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The latest version of SG3 for Sprint is MB1 (v4.1.2). I don't really have a good answer to why your wife's phone hasn't been getting the OTA updates (there have been 2 since LJ7: MA6 and MB1). If I recall correctly, MA6 was the one that brought you up to 4.1.2.
If you want to bring your wife's phone up-to-date, you can always flash the "purely stock files" over on Freeza's thread. You'd have to flash the updates starting at her version and each subsequent one (i.e. LJ7_to_MA6 before flashing MA6_to_MB1).
Hope this helps!

topherk said:
The latest version of SG3 for Sprint is MB1 (v4.1.2). I don't really have a good answer to why your wife's phone hasn't been getting the OTA updates (there have been 2 since LJ7: MA6 and MB1). If I recall correctly, MA6 was the one that brought you up to 4.1.2.
If you want to bring your wife's phone up-to-date, you can always flash the "purely stock files" over on Freeza's thread. You'd have to flash the updates starting at her version and each subsequent one (i.e. LJ7_to_MA6 before flashing MA6_to_MB1).
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the speedy response topherk. Well, I figured it had to be legitimate and I saw updates behave this way back when I was on my EVO....but it not being supported in Kies kind of worries me.

My wifes gs3 has yet to get the update either. As far as the sim card issue i know that was a probably a while back with rooting, haven't seen much on the issue in 3-4 months.
Sent from a planet far far away.

Speedin07si said:
My wifes gs3 has yet to get the update either. As far as the sim card issue i know that was a probably a while back with rooting, haven't seen much on the issue in 3-4 months.
Sent from a planet far far away.
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Interesting...worth noting is that although my version is 4.1.2, I don't seem to have the reported functionality (such as multi view page buddy, etc) and a few other things. ?????

Phederico said:
Interesting...worth noting is that although my version is 4.1.2, I don't seem to have the reported functionality (such as multi view page buddy, etc) and a few other things. ?????
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There is no multiview for the Sprint S3 in 4.1.2. You will have to waitnuntil we get 4.2.
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kennyglass123 said:
There is no multiview for the Sprint S3 in 4.1.2. You will have to waitnuntil we get 4.2.
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Ahh, ok Kenny, thanks good to know... I guess I'll just hang out with this build for a while and see what gives. I noticed that when I have the keyboard up, i can tap the T/Pencil icon and I can spell like on a tablet w/stylus. I don't remember being able to do that before. (reminds me of Palm O.S. although the Palm writing style doesn't work here)

Need General GS3 Help and Info

Hello folks.
I am new here and am not sure how it all works so please forgive me if I have posted in the wrong spot or am asking something that has been beaten to death already.
I have a AT&T GS3 I747 . I received the OTA 4.4.2 update for it and used it just fine. One day i got a bug in me to root and flash it. I rooted it, installed CWM 6.0.47 or something like that and installed Gummy Rom running kitKat 4.4.4.
I would love to return my phone to 4.4.2 with or without root. Is this possible? I have read and read to NOT take these backwards after JB 4.3
I have looked until I was blue in the face for a rom to use and am drawing blanks. I probably found one once and didnt know it. I can flash and all that and do it regularly, I just don't understand all the fancy lingo so I probably overlooked what I am looking for.
So bottom line, is it poissible for me to go back to stock 4.4.2? I would love a stock rom minus all the at&t bloatware since I will be unlocking it to straight talk.
Thanks for your time and once again, my apologies for dragging this all up again if it has been covered already.

First thing to do is update that custom recovery, or at least confirm you're on the latest version. I think that version you quoted is a little dated, and that has potential to cause you some problems flashing ROMs. An easy way to get and install the latest recovery is an app called Flashify.
Next have a look around the development section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/development
You'll find some debloated TW ROMs for that stock feel without the AT&T & Samsung junk along with plenty of other good ROMs to choose from.

It's wise of you to be cautious @DjPorkchop.
You are correct, you should never again downgrade your bootloader and modem, also called firmware and baseband. The very latest AT&T OTA updated bootloader and modem to NJ1, it is part of the 4.4.2 stock install. The OTA before that loaded NE4 bootloader and modem, they were also in a 4.4.2 stock rom, but you can not downgrade to them if you are on NJ1. AT&T has not issued an newer bootloader and modem than NJ1.
The good news is that the custom ROMs do not flash bootloaders and modems. You are safe to install even a 4.4.2 custom ROM on NJ1 firmware for this reason. There are stock system dumps available, with these you have to use caution because the bootloader and modem may be present, not always however. Talkingmonkeys has a TouchWiz based 4.4.2 ROM, TMS3KK, that is available in two versions, the second is heavily debloated. I am using the 4.3 Android version and will be soon updating to the heavily debloated 4.4.2 version. (He's still doing some minor theme tweaking on the newer version.)

How do I tell if I am on NJ1 or NE4? As I recall, I got the 4.4.2 update and all but immidiatly after had my phone shut off. I don't recall ever getting a 2nd update to 4.4.2 as long as my phone was active. I have been known to be wrong before though.
And I thank you much for the info. I will go check that thread out as soon as possible.

DjPorkchop said:
How do I tell if I am on NJ1 or NE4? As I recall, I got the 4.4.2 update and all but immidiatly after had my phone shut off. I don't recall ever getting a 2nd update to 4.4.2 as long as my phone was active. I have been known to be wrong before though.
And I thank you much for the info. I will go check that thread out as soon as possible.
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There is a "Samsung Info" app in the PlayStore that will give you the info.
Or, in a terminal emulator you could enter:
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getprop ro. bootloader
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getprop | grep version.baseband

Thanks for letting me in on that app. It shows me on NE4.
So off I go to figure out what I am going to do to this phone. I am going to visit that thread you mentioned to me and see if I can make heads or tails of it and get a rom for this phone. I ike Gummy rom but it is a bit to much for me. I really want to get back to as close to stock as I can get safely without bricking my phone.

DjPorkchop said:
Thanks for letting me in on that app. It shows me on NE4.
So off I go to figure out what I am going to do to this phone. I am going to visit that thread you mentioned to me and see if I can make heads or tails of it and get a rom for this phone. I ike Gummy rom but it is a bit to much for me. I really want to get back to as close to stock as I can get safely without bricking my phone.
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Ok so I revisited that page again and I can't make heads or tails of what to do. I know for certain I am on NE4. That is all I know. Any suggestions from that page to get me as close to stock as I can? I see there is a stock theme revert as well on that page.
Sorry to be such a pain. I am one of those guys that figured out how to root and flash and never should have.

Have a look here to return to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/general/ucuemjb-to-ucufne4-firmware-update-t2808654

DjPorkchop said:
Ok so I revisited that page again and I can't make heads or tails of what to do. I know for certain I am on NE4. That is all I know. Any suggestions from that page to get me as close to stock as I can? I see there is a stock theme revert as well on that page.
Sorry to be such a pain. I am one of those guys that figured out how to root and flash and never should have.
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That room comes with a dark theme. The revert is not needed unless you want the lighter colored stock theme. I use the dark because, supposedly, a dark setup is a little easier on battery drain compared to light or white themes. I didn't install the extra battery mod, he had enough options built into the rom to suit me.