Need General GS3 Help and Info - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Hello folks.
I am new here and am not sure how it all works so please forgive me if I have posted in the wrong spot or am asking something that has been beaten to death already.
I have a AT&T GS3 I747 . I received the OTA 4.4.2 update for it and used it just fine. One day i got a bug in me to root and flash it. I rooted it, installed CWM 6.0.47 or something like that and installed Gummy Rom running kitKat 4.4.4.
I would love to return my phone to 4.4.2 with or without root. Is this possible? I have read and read to NOT take these backwards after JB 4.3
I have looked until I was blue in the face for a rom to use and am drawing blanks. I probably found one once and didnt know it. I can flash and all that and do it regularly, I just don't understand all the fancy lingo so I probably overlooked what I am looking for.
So bottom line, is it poissible for me to go back to stock 4.4.2? I would love a stock rom minus all the at&t bloatware since I will be unlocking it to straight talk.
Thanks for your time and once again, my apologies for dragging this all up again if it has been covered already.

First thing to do is update that custom recovery, or at least confirm you're on the latest version. I think that version you quoted is a little dated, and that has potential to cause you some problems flashing ROMs. An easy way to get and install the latest recovery is an app called Flashify.
Next have a look around the development section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/development
You'll find some debloated TW ROMs for that stock feel without the AT&T & Samsung junk along with plenty of other good ROMs to choose from.

It's wise of you to be cautious @DjPorkchop.
You are correct, you should never again downgrade your bootloader and modem, also called firmware and baseband. The very latest AT&T OTA updated bootloader and modem to NJ1, it is part of the 4.4.2 stock install. The OTA before that loaded NE4 bootloader and modem, they were also in a 4.4.2 stock rom, but you can not downgrade to them if you are on NJ1. AT&T has not issued an newer bootloader and modem than NJ1.
The good news is that the custom ROMs do not flash bootloaders and modems. You are safe to install even a 4.4.2 custom ROM on NJ1 firmware for this reason. There are stock system dumps available, with these you have to use caution because the bootloader and modem may be present, not always however. Talkingmonkeys has a TouchWiz based 4.4.2 ROM, TMS3KK, that is available in two versions, the second is heavily debloated. I am using the 4.3 Android version and will be soon updating to the heavily debloated 4.4.2 version. (He's still doing some minor theme tweaking on the newer version.)

How do I tell if I am on NJ1 or NE4? As I recall, I got the 4.4.2 update and all but immidiatly after had my phone shut off. I don't recall ever getting a 2nd update to 4.4.2 as long as my phone was active. I have been known to be wrong before though.
And I thank you much for the info. I will go check that thread out as soon as possible.

DjPorkchop said:
How do I tell if I am on NJ1 or NE4? As I recall, I got the 4.4.2 update and all but immidiatly after had my phone shut off. I don't recall ever getting a 2nd update to 4.4.2 as long as my phone was active. I have been known to be wrong before though.
And I thank you much for the info. I will go check that thread out as soon as possible.
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There is a "Samsung Info" app in the PlayStore that will give you the info.
Or, in a terminal emulator you could enter:
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getprop ro. bootloader
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getprop | grep version.baseband

Thanks for letting me in on that app. It shows me on NE4.
So off I go to figure out what I am going to do to this phone. I am going to visit that thread you mentioned to me and see if I can make heads or tails of it and get a rom for this phone. I ike Gummy rom but it is a bit to much for me. I really want to get back to as close to stock as I can get safely without bricking my phone.

DjPorkchop said:
Thanks for letting me in on that app. It shows me on NE4.
So off I go to figure out what I am going to do to this phone. I am going to visit that thread you mentioned to me and see if I can make heads or tails of it and get a rom for this phone. I ike Gummy rom but it is a bit to much for me. I really want to get back to as close to stock as I can get safely without bricking my phone.
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Ok so I revisited that page again and I can't make heads or tails of what to do. I know for certain I am on NE4. That is all I know. Any suggestions from that page to get me as close to stock as I can? I see there is a stock theme revert as well on that page.
Sorry to be such a pain. I am one of those guys that figured out how to root and flash and never should have.

Have a look here to return to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/general/ucuemjb-to-ucufne4-firmware-update-t2808654

DjPorkchop said:
Ok so I revisited that page again and I can't make heads or tails of what to do. I know for certain I am on NE4. That is all I know. Any suggestions from that page to get me as close to stock as I can? I see there is a stock theme revert as well on that page.
Sorry to be such a pain. I am one of those guys that figured out how to root and flash and never should have.
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That room comes with a dark theme. The revert is not needed unless you want the lighter colored stock theme. I use the dark because, supposedly, a dark setup is a little easier on battery drain compared to light or white themes. I didn't install the extra battery mod, he had enough options built into the rom to suit me.

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[Q] Newbie doing homework before flashing rom

I'm sure this has been asked many times before, but I just wanted to make absolutely sure I'm ready before I flash, so I don't brick my phone. I have been reading the forums for a few days now. I have an S3 (i747M) with Fido. I'm not totally sure which ROM to go with. From what I understand so far, I'm thinking StockMOD or Dandroid. I want a fairly minimalistic OS, latest version (4.3 vs 4.4?), so I can play the occasion game on it and get good idle battery life. I believe I have rooted my stock rom and I have disabled some of the bloat through the "Application Management" option under settings. Any advice on flashing? I have spent many years building, modding and generally tinkering with windows pcs but I haven't done anything with phones, android or linux. Any advice? Obviously do the backup of my current phone with the app mentioned on the related ROM installation page. I assume I can restore my phone back to this stock ROM is the new one fails? After the backup, do a full phone wipe and default restore. Then hook the phone to my PC via USB and use the related program to flash the phone? Thank you for any and all replies in advance. :good:
Kwijybow said:
I'm sure this has been asked many times before, but I just wanted to make absolutely sure I'm ready before I flash, so I don't brick my phone. I have been reading the forums for a few days now. I have an S3 (i747M) with Fido. I'm not totally sure which ROM to go with. From what I understand so far, I'm thinking StockMOD or Dandroid. I want a fairly minimalistic OS, latest version (4.3 vs 4.4?), so I can play the occasion game on it and get good idle battery life. I believe I have rooted my stock rom and I have disabled some of the bloat through the "Application Management" option under settings. Any advice on flashing? I have spent many years building, modding and generally tinkering with windows pcs but I haven't done anything with phones, android or linux. Any advice? Obviously do the backup of my current phone with the app mentioned on the related ROM installation page. I assume I can restore my phone back to this stock ROM is the new one fails? After the backup, do a full phone wipe and default restore. Then hook the phone to my PC via USB and use the related program to flash the phone? Thank you for any and all replies in advance. :good:
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in my opinion or anyone will say that 4.3 is the most stable right now, and 4.4 is only available for CM based roms.....Samsung Touchwiz will always be the last to update their devices to 4.4 while custom roms AOKP, SLIM BEAM, PAC ROM, BEAN STALK, CM, PARANOID, ETC they will always have nightlies on latest the Android version but will take sometime for stable roms to be released
1st before you think of flashing please research and know what you're getting into
2nd read all the info. ROOT your i747m with cf-auto root (i recommend it cuz its the simplest, easiest, safest way to root)
3rd install custom recovery there are two that i know of but am confident and comfortable with clockworkmod recovery....u can try TWRP
4th yu can either wish to stay stock touchwiz, 2types of stock
-one that comes from samsung all bloated and no tweaks and
-the one that is taken by devs debloated, modded, customized, xposed mod, minimalistic, faster and better.
--OR you can go completely Android vanilla stock, which has nothing but the normal google staff (ITS LIKE A NEXUS DEVICE from Google) you dont have any bloatware, or features/addons just plain stock
5th Once yu know the basic, the universe is yours, with Android comes endless customization and possibilities just like Microsoft Windows, Linux, ubuntu or even OSX
6th wish to become a DEV its your choice, wish to modify, play with the filesystem its your choice but without knowledge of what you're doing bricking is easy as just deleting a file yu think its not important
7th help the rest with android as you do with PC
PS am learning to code now but one thing at a time so am starting with Web design, plan to learn some computer languages, hacking, etc computer science :laugh: maybe yu can help me out
everything you need to know about what i said or root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
Thanks for the reply. It's been a while since I originally posted this. I decided to hold off on a custom ROM at that time but I find myself back again, still wanting to customize my phone (especially now that my contract is about to expire). I figure that if I do brick my phone beyond repair, I'll just get another phone anyways so not so worried about it now.
Anyways, one concern I have about flashing a custom ROM on my S3 is can I go backwards in Android versions? I can confirm that I am running the stock (Rogers / Fido) Android 4.4.2 which I believe is Kitkat? I am very interested in going either StockMOD or Dandroid, which as far as I can tell are 4.3 Jellybean? Can I do that?
Yes, you can run a 4.3 rom on your phone as long as you do not try to downgrade the bootloader.
You can go back to completely stock Rogers by using Odin to flash as stock kk rom from sammobile.com.
audit13 said:
Yes, you can run a 4.3 rom on your phone as long as you do not try to downgrade the bootloader.
You can go back to completely stock Rogers by using Odin to flash as stock kk rom from sammobile.com.
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Thanks for the reply. Regarding the bootloader, the versions of Android I'm looking to install say they need the 4.3 bootloader. How can I check which bootloader I am running on my phone?
If you're phone is running stock Rogers kit kit, you have a kit kat bootloader which you can't downgrade.
If the rom needs a 4.3 bootloader and since you have a newer bootloader, you can probably load the rom.
Kwijybow said:
I'm not totally sure which ROM to go with.
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Using the most recent build of the most popular ROM has it's advantages.
cm-12.1-20150807-NIGHTLY-d2att.zip
fast, light, stable, secure, supported

[Q] Suggest a ROM for CWM that has Android 4.4.3 on HTC One Verizon m7

Hi there geniuses of XDA! (somewhat of a noob here)
Need some help. I want to update my VZW HTC One (m7) to the Android L version (I think its out now, maybe not though, if not 4.4.3). I currently have Android 4.2.2. I am rooted, unlocked, and S-Off. I am running ClockworkMod Recovery and have a nandroid backup in that, that I would like to maintain in case things go wrong. It is my understanding that if I were to switch to TWRP my backup would not work, so I would like to stay with CWM. So can anyone provide a suggestion of a good ROM to get that will bring me up to current version and will still work with CWM?
Thanks, your help is greatly appreciated.
Steve
Also let me point out that I am still on Firmware 1.10.605.8. How do I get this updated? Looks like most of the current ROMs require later firmware. Basically I rooted last year, day one when I got the phone and have not updated anything since then. So I really need some help on getting current. Step by step instructions would be most helpful.
Thanks
lostnsound said:
Also let me point out that I am still on Firmware 1.10.605.8. How do I get this updated? Looks like most of the current ROMs require later firmware. Basically I rooted last year, day one when I got the phone and have not updated anything since then. So I really need some help on getting current. Step by step instructions would be most helpful.
Thanks
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See people's response in your other question thread. Furthermore, I would like to add that after you update your firmware from santod's thread - you will want to update to the latest ROM. We do not have L as you have requested. There is a preview floating around in the international forum, but it is not for daily use and not for VZW. I suggest - if you want stock to either use Santod's stock rom's as they are stock completely or Andybone's which are stock with minor tweaks. Outside of that there are stock based ROM's that have an abundance of tweaks - NuSense, Ecliptic, Viper, etc.
If you run into recovery issues (due to potentially outdated CWM) - I suggest trying Philz. It is CWM based but easier to use. You should be able to access your backup. You can also pull the backup off your phone and save it on a computer. It will be saved in clockworkmod/backups or something.
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See people's response in your other question thread. Furthermore, I would like to add that after you update your firmware from santod's thread - you will want to update to the latest ROM. We do not have L as you have requested. There is a preview floating around in the international forum, but it is not for daily use and not for VZW. I suggest - if you want stock to either use Santod's stock rom's as they are stock completely or Andybone's which are stock with minor tweaks. Outside of that there are stock based ROM's that have an abundance of tweaks - NuSense, Ecliptic, Viper, etc.
If you run into recovery issues (due to potentially outdated CWM) - I suggest trying Philz. It is CWM based but easier to use. You should be able to access your backup. You can also pull the backup off your phone and save it on a computer. It will be saved in clockworkmod/backups or something.
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Thanks for the assistance brymaster5000. This is all very helpful information.
lostnsound said:
Hi there geniuses of XDA! (somewhat of a noob here)
Need some help. I want to update my VZW HTC One (m7) to the Android L version (I think its out now, maybe not though, if not 4.4.3). I currently have Android 4.2.2. I am rooted, unlocked, and S-Off. I am running ClockworkMod Recovery and have a nandroid backup in that, that I would like to maintain in case things go wrong. It is my understanding that if I were to switch to TWRP my backup would not work, so I would like to stay with CWM. So can anyone provide a suggestion of a good ROM to get that will bring me up to current version and will still work with CWM?
Thanks, your help is greatly appreciated.
Steve
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I would recommend Viper for sense 6 / 4.4.2, Santod's GPE 4.4.4 for gpe, or CM11 4.4.4 for a great aosp experience.
Just one thing to point out - if you move away from sense roms, you will lose some camera function. Only the sense camera(which only works on sense roms) really works well. If you go GPE or AOSP you will see a noticable drop in camera boot times, focus times and flash timing.

Anything special updating your phone?

Just wondering if there's anything special or cool about getting your phone updated to the newest version available, I got my phone already with a custom rom on it(modified), can't update it thru OTA, or 4.2.2. is till a pretty decent Version to sit and and still kick ass? ;p
IMO, i like KitKat (4.4+) more than Jellybean (4.3-). You can update via Kies if you want but you can't go back. Or you can just stay with the bootloader you have now and just flash custom ROMs, kernels and modem. 4.3+ has KNOX security but if you don't have a warranty then tripping the "KNOX counter" is nothing to worry about.
Nah, dont have a warranty on it. Got it with a custom rom, i guess some1 flashed it before selling it to me, it runs good n wut not, just was wondering wut i might have been missing out n w.e. xD if newer versions improve battery life consumption, makes it faster, etc, then it sounds good xD ill prolly try thru kies later n see if it goes thru
You dont HAVE to upgrade. Try Insane KitKat. Its a great custom ROM. Fast and good battery life. And if you download the sickness mods v5 (4.4.2) before he uploads v6(4.4.4), you can add whatever you want from the AROMA options.
Never used any of those custom roms.
On other hand, today i opened my phone to do some stuff on it, and it felt like some1 touched it(one of my bros), it wanted me to restart my phone to upgrade to 4.3 update. I guess somehow i got t-mobile OTA update and they clicked on it and downloaded the 700mb+ file. Oh well i guess, how good is the 4.3? Much better then 4.2.2? Or so so?
The new nh7 modem is tight. You can do this update because you are still on the MDL bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898809
Oh awesome, so i can still do other stuff if needed eh? xD This update will just update modem etc, but not touch the bootloader. So im good?
Den Den said:
Oh awesome, so i can still do other stuff if needed eh? xD This update will just update modem etc, but not touch the bootloader. So im good?
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An OTA update will update your whole firmware. You might get another update for NH7 after you do that one.
Ahh I see, but OTA's don't usually change your bootloader eh? Just everything else.
Den Den said:
Ahh I see, but OTA's don't usually change your bootloader eh? Just everything else.
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Bootloader also
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Bootloader also
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Oh well I guess. Someone took my phone while playing games, and downloaded the new OTA, now it's going to keep bugging me to update it. Loved it at 4.2.2. Hope the nh7 is going to be better, heard tons of ppl having battery draining, bad reception, etc, maybe just a small % of ppl. not sure o.o Someone said nh7 is going to be smooth and fast, etc, haha that would be great rofl.
I updated with Odin and then flashed Insane NH7 ROM and haven't have any problems. But I have seen people saying bad things about their signal. I guess it's a hit or miss
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I updated with Odin and then flashed Insane NH7 ROM and haven't have any problems. But I have seen people saying bad things about their signal. I guess it's a hit or miss
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Yeah, thats y i dont want to update it to newest firmware atm, dont want to deal with all the bs that comes with it. Can i keep delaying the update eh? As for what you did, was pretty fast eh? And were u rooted? Just hate readding all my apps n info n **** back on here that i use daily.
Once you update whether OTA or Odin, you will have to root again. You can ignore the update. There is a way to stop the notifications, just use Google.
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Once you update whether OTA or Odin, you will have to root again. You can ignore the update. There is a way to stop the notifications, just use Google.
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How good is that insane rom? I mainly use my gs4 for calling, navigation, listening to music(downloaded/streaming), streaming movies sometimes thru wifi, games sometimes, use apps to remove wasted ram/Junk files/help with battery drain, etc. Main thing is really i need is the good signal at all times, so navigation and all that crap works awesome, calling, net. Tbh id love to remove all the unwanted bloatware that i never use(but that can be done by rooting). Did you stay on mdl bootloader, n just flashed ur custom rom eh?
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How good is that insane rom? I mainly use my gs4 for calling, navigation, listening to music(downloaded/streaming), streaming movies sometimes thru wifi, games sometimes, use apps to remove wasted ram/Junk files/help with battery drain, etc. Main thing is really i need is the good signal at all times, so navigation and all that crap works awesome, calling, net. Tbh id love to remove all the unwanted bloatware that i never use(but that can be done by rooting). Did you stay on mdl bootloader, n just flashed ur custom rom eh?
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The Insane ROM is a great one. It does have bloat (Insane 4.4.4 NH7) but it is easy to get rid of. I stayed on my MK5 bootloader but just recently switched to NH7.
Kriptik210 said:
The Insane ROM is a great one. It does have bloat (Insane 4.4.4 NH7) but it is easy to get rid of. I stayed on my MK5 bootloader but just recently switched to NH7.
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Ahh i see, anything good with the nh7 bootloader asude from mdl i got atm? I also read somewhere on here that some1 just updated their phone up to date w/ ota, then flashed nh7 modem to fix the bad signal n w.e. Not sure wut to for atm, dont have much time on my hands.
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Ahh i see, anything good with the nh7 bootloader asude from mdl i got atm? I also read somewhere on here that some1 just updated their phone up to date w/ ota, then flashed nh7 modem to fix the bad signal n w.e. Not sure wut to for atm, dont have much time on my hands.
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If all you've done is download the OTA but you haven't actually applied it AND you are still on the 4.2.2 MDL bootloader, I'd say leave your bootloader on MDL. I'm not saying don't run updated ROMs, I'm just saying not to take an official update. Use Odin to flash the newest modem and use custom recovery to flash any of the 4.4.x ROMs in the Android Development section, Original Android Development, or Unified Development sections. If you use custom recovery to flash the newer ROMs you still get the benefits of having updated firmware, you just don't end up having KNOX. Myself, along with numerous other users here, are still on the MDL bootloader, NH7 modem, and running modified/stock 4.4.4 NH7 TouchWiz ROM with no problems to speak of. The only thing about keeping the old bootloader, the only modem you can update is your GSM modem, not LTE; although as I said, I really haven't noticed any drop in reception... I still get full LTE whenever I'm in an area which has LTE penetration...
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If all you've done is download the OTA but you haven't actually applied it AND you are still on the 4.2.2 MDL bootloader, I'd say leave your bootloader on MDL. I'm not saying don't run updated ROMs, I'm just saying not to take an official update. Use Odin to flash the newest modem and use custom recovery to flash any of the 4.4.x ROMs in the Android Development section, Original Android Development, or Unified Development sections. If you use custom recovery to flash the newer ROMs you still get the benefits of having updated firmware, you just don't end up having KNOX. Myself, along with numerous other users here, are still on the MDL bootloader, NH7 modem, and running modified/stock 4.4.4 NH7 TouchWiz ROM with no problems to speak of. The only thing about keeping the old bootloader, the only modem you can update is your GSM modem, not LTE; although as I said, I really haven't noticed any drop in reception... I still get full LTE whenever I'm in an area which has LTE penetration...
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Was bored and decided to explore my phone, installed super user, installed titanium back up xD Not really sure how decent this rom or if its stock as it looks like this phone was rooted before i bought it lol. To think i was afraid to root it, yet it was rooted all along, funny tbh xD But yeah i still have decent signal etc in diff location, but sometimes wished it was better lol.
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lordcheeto03 said:
If all you've done is download the OTA but you haven't actually applied it AND you are still on the 4.2.2 MDL bootloader, I'd say leave your bootloader on MDL. I'm not saying don't run updated ROMs, I'm just saying not to take an official update. Use Odin to flash the newest modem and use custom recovery to flash any of the 4.4.x ROMs in the Android Development section, Original Android Development, or Unified Development sections. If you use custom recovery to flash the newer ROMs you still get the benefits of having updated firmware, you just don't end up having KNOX. Myself, along with numerous other users here, are still on the MDL bootloader, NH7 modem, and running modified/stock 4.4.4 NH7 TouchWiz ROM with no problems to speak of. The only thing about keeping the old bootloader, the only modem you can update is your GSM modem, not LTE; although as I said, I really haven't noticed any drop in reception... I still get full LTE whenever I'm in an area which has LTE penetration...
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Should i upgrade my modem or anything to 4.4.4 version, or get a custom rom? I'm also running on network: LTE/GSM/WCDMA, or should i use something else that would run better everywhere? ;p I'm on simple mobile atm which under t-mobile i guess. Also, what are cool useful apps for gs4 for rooted phones? And anything else that might be useful to add here Thanks!

Wipe to update/reflash...or ODIN.

I posted a thread a while back but I apparently posted the wrong type of thread. This one should be the right of the right type and in the right place.
On the Samsung devices I've had in the past, the boot loader was always a big deal when flashing new versions of android. I've had this tablet for a while now and haven't updated it since I bought it...and Odin flashed/rooted/installed TWRP on it.
From reading the megathreads, from threads, flashing threads, etc...it's not very clear if this is like the other Samsung devices I've had, or if this is like the EEEpad Transformer and Nexus 7 I had...and could move freely between android versions, stock roms...and nonstock ROMs, etc.
I'm running 5.0.2 and I play hearthstone competitively. I bought this for the display mainly, and now that I've loaded it with some crap, I'd like to flash a custom from/update. It seems my crap+samsungs crap saturates the ram quite well. Can I pretty much flash what I'd like? Or do I have to ODIN from stock to the latest build and then worry about number versions.
Also...I used to run an all that kept my TWRP version up to date. Goomanager I believe...but there are dozens of apps that claim to do this now...can I get a trusted suggestion?
Rooted on stock.
Android Version: 5.0.2
Kernel: 3.4.106 IronKernel V2.0 (mainly for s tweaks to boost audio)
Build LRX22G.T800XXU1BOC3
Forget about using an app to flash twrp.
Do it manually and be safe. Plus the official updates are lacking in features compared to the unofficial builds. Just check out the dev section and you'll see what I mean.
Thanks for the advice. And as far as flashing roms...can I pretty much flash what I'd like? Ex: go back and forth between Cm and stock builds...and between version builds while ignoring the boot loader? I'm basically trying to see if I've missed something critical since I rooted and flashed so long ago.
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Thanks for the advice. And as far as flashing roms...can I pretty much flash what I'd like? Ex: go back and forth between Cm and stock builds...and between version builds while ignoring the boot loader? I'm basically trying to see if I've missed something critical since I rooted and flashed so long ago.
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As long as you don't flash a firmware build that is incompatible with your current bootloader you can flash what you want back and forth.
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As long as you don't flash a firmware build that is incompatible with your current bootloader you can flash what you want back and forth.
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Thats what I figured. I'm running the stock rom rooted. I don't know what boot loader I'm on, or how to get to the latest one. I have all the access in the world-- recovery, root. But there isn't a place here...or anywhere that clearly says what am going on. I have a charging issue and would like to foahh a new Kernel, and I might as well update in the process,...by there is no "Upgrade from Xxx while on the stock rooted ROM" guide. Plus my laptop has a crappy USB port, so If I need to Odin something on here, itd be quite the process.
Ive asked around for months, literally. I've never been in this position before. Have always kept up to date. But once you fall behind, in forums like these (especially given the fact hat there are multiple devices in this section), you need something explicit to get back where you need to be.
Last time I looked, there weren't any instructions. Ill look against today to see if I can just download the latest..zip of a 10.5 stock ROM from somewhere in the dev section and then wipe, and flash that. If you know if its alright to just wipe and flash a new ROM, lemme know. Or if I have to Odin to a new one in order to get a new boot loader before I flash the latest Kernel, which I think then one I'm trying to use his BOJ. IRONKernel. I use it for S Tweaks, the sound, and a few performance tweaks.
You have to flash the bootloader with Odin they are posted in the bootloader thread.
You can flash the stock firmware with flashfire.

Downgrading 6.0.1 to 5.1.1

Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?
djisback said:
@tjmethod by chance how did you process go, did you manage to root and unlock bootloader?
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I bought the phone already with 6.0.1 on it and read that you cannot unlock/ root it with mm on it and can only be done after downgrading to 5.1.1 so I haven't done anything yet
I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?
tjmethod said:
Hi if anyone can help- I'm on the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 after 2 Note 7's and a Note 3 before that on Biggin's so I've sorta been out of the root game. I want to downgrade from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1. I am downloading the full firmware for the Note 4 from further back in this thread (N910VVRU2CPA1) and am currently on (N910VVRU2CPG2).
From what I understand, I need to do a factory reset, then go to Odin and flash the firmware. I have Odin 3.10.7 and am downloading the N910VVRU2CPA1 as we speak. I see 'hsbadr' firmwares in his thread and the PIT file TRLTE_USA_VZW.pit which I'm not sure is compatable pit file for the specific 5.1.1 firmware or the necessary pit file is included in the full firmware and can anyone tell me if these are the right steps?are these the right steps Any information would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks
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sudermatt said:
I'm in the same boat...Coming from a n7. Bought a n4 on eBay...It's got 601. Want to root...Guess we need to downgrade....Is it possible?
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Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.
quinciebee said:
Before you can start rooting, you'll need to be on 5.1.1 BPA1. If you're currently on 6.0.1, just download the BPA1 firmware from Sammobile, factory reset on 6.0.1, then flash BPA1 stock via Odin.
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Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?
tjmethod said:
Hi thanks, I had called Samsung and talked to top tier tech support and was told that once the phone has been upgraded to 6.0.1., it cannot be downgraded. and that i need to search the rooting sites and try to find where someone has found a breach or workaround for unlocking the bootloader which will usually have a bounty but I dont know. top tier tech support has always been good. Do you think thats false it cannot be downgraded?
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It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.
quinciebee said:
It's definitely false, when I rooted my phone, I downgraded from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 without any issues.
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I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?
tjmethod said:
I will definately give it a go when I have the time, have you flashed a rom and if so which one, there must be some or some tweaks to get rid of the lag?
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I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.
quinciebee said:
I'm currently using CM13 because of Xposed and overall stability, but there are newer roms out there.
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I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
tjmethod said:
I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.
ziggy71 said:
You want the PA1. It's really easy. Just sounds more complicated then it is. I am using the PaulPizz rom. It is very stable, good battery life, and spen and sview work. If you need any help, let me know.
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Thanks bro I don't if I'll have time til this weekend to do this- Does this rom have tweaks to fix the aggravating galaxy lag? With a non rooted phone there's goin into recovery and deleting cache, DU speed and phone booster, cleaned but it's like they all have it- thanks again- lookin forward to rooting this damn thing
tjmethod said:
I am a little confused as to whether I've found the right firmwares but I've found the firmwares here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
If I am downgrading to 5.1.1. which this phone was obviously on before, I don't know what this phone was on since it currently is on the PL1 build which are not one of the two 6.0.1. builds on this page. I don't even know if that matters.. Anyway, the two 5.1.1. builds are PA1 and OK3. Do you know where any other firmwares out there that might show my current one and the previous build that it came from?
Thanks-
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Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.
kevintm78 said:
Yeah they're out there but that thread hasn't been updated recently. Basically the order after pf3 is pg2, pj2, and then cpl1. The one you want, if your planning on rooting, is bpa1. Also, as far as your question in the op about the pit file, it should really only be used if absolutely necessary. It's in case your partitions have been corrupted for some reason and you need to repartition your device.
Edit- I was going to link to those other firmwares but they are buried in the thread that your already looking in. Either way they aren't necessary for you to unlock your bootloader, you can go straight from cpl1 to bpa1.
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Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hey thanks for confirming all this. So all I need to download and install is the bpa1 firmware via Oden with the AP button I think- I've got a few different versions of Oden on my pc. It's been a while since I've flashed firmware on a phone but I remember it was easy. So just save my pictures, any files, etc. on the sd card, remove it, then do a factory reset or when I put the setting into usb download mode, and flash the firmware this will automatically factory reset the phone? Also earlier today Verizon has been trying to push an software upgrade. After I unlock the bootloader and install twrp then flash a rom, do I need to somehow disable the update notice. I remember having to do that once with another phone.
What rom are you on? Thanks again for the Info-
TJ
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Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.
kevintm78 said:
Yeah that all sounds spot on. I would definitely do the factory reset before you start, but other than that your good. To block the updates, you can uninstall the SDM apps. There are 2 of those and you'll need root to remove them, but you can disable them without root with that debloater tool. The rom I'm currently using is kind of work in progress. I have a couple stock based roms in the dev section, one is stock_plus that has a stock feel with some mods added and the other is Modest Rom that is got some grace apps added and system ui mods. You can find them here and here if you want to check them out.
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Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-
tjmethod said:
Awesome, I'm going to check those out but I forgot the biggest question of all... how to get rid of the Galaxy lag- is there a rom or tweak where this can be fixed since recovery cache delete and cleaning tools dont really do much?
Thanks again-
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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.
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Custom kernels help a lot. The problem is it's kind of slim pickings for our specific model, but some of the international kernels work well too. Oscar kernel is made for the 910v so that's probably the most reliable but if your like me, I like to use a permissive kernel and Ram kernel is not a bad choice for that though it's not as feature rich.
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I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!
tjmethod said:
I really dont know the difference... from what I remember a kernel is the layer between the software and the hardware- a key component of the os. I'm guessing the permissive ones can be used for different roms or firmware? You can probably tell I really don't that much about the root game. The last time I flashed a firmware was on my note 3 after I bricked it. Then rerooted and got on to biggins rom which was great ut I never understood or learned how to use xposed. Anyway, I downloaded Modest Rom, PJ2 _STOCK .tar and am downloading cpl1_tar but I know that once I flash bpa1 firmware which puts the phone back on 5.1.1. I see your roms are 6.0.1 roms, after I flash the bpa1, will the bootloader be unlocked? If so can I then just flash the cpla1_tar or is that not a full firmware? or use one of the two 6.0.1 firmwares from where I found the cpa1? Are the kernels different from 6.0.1 and 5.1.1 and where to find the downloads?? I appreciate the tips especially coming from a develpoer and i'm happy to make a donation- I'm not sure how?
Thanks again!
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Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.
kevintm78 said:
Hey buddy, did you get it figured out? I broke my arm at work on Sunday and of course it's my right arm so I'm having some issues responding back on my note with one hand. I bet I've dropped this thing 20 times already.
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Oh man that sucks- hopefully they gave you some good pain meds. Anyway, I havent taken th plunge yet- once I get on to 5.1.1 then twrp, I want to go on to 6.0.1 but am unsure as to what point the bootloader is unlocked or exactly what to do to upgrade to 6.0.1 once I crack the bl. I just dont want to go through the dreaded set up everything twice.

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