Hey currently on cm10 (wild for the night) and usually after flashing a new custom rom I like to try and squeeze as much battery life as i can by calibrating my battery with the playstore root version....has worked other times, but now charge hits a blue light at round 90 and i have to leave it going another while till 100? should i run it completely out to nothing & then re-calibrate, or reset battery stats for recovery??
Thanks...
Resetting battery stats is like saying abracadabra and hocus pocus, it does nothing for the battery. Android automatically wipes the battery stats every time the charge reaches 100%. Li-ion batteries should be recharged between 10 and 20% letting them go completely dead is bad for their health. If you have more than one but dont swap them out often the one you're not using should be stored with a charge between 50-80%. For optimum health try to charge a little bit at a time thru out the day to prevent the battery from reaching 0% but dont charge it of its between 80 and 100% and once it reaches 100% dont leave it on the charger for a long period of time. Charging over night when you start with a low battery is ok since it wont be at 100% the entire time and the charging circuit will prevent it from pver charging. Also try to keep your batteries temperature below 120°F if it gets over 120°F remove it from the device for 15-30 minutes and allow it to cool and when you replace it don't go right back to running itz temperature up, let the device idle and the battery have some time to recoup. The 2 worst things you can do to a battery is improper charging(let it die or charge it when its over 80% still) and high temperatures. If you're having trouble with it holding a charge give it a spin test, take it out and spin it on a flat surface of it spins like a top it's time to replace it as the cells have begun to swell from heat damage. If it only spins 1/4-1/2 a turn or doesn't spin but has trouble holding a decent charge all its not bloating but could still have cell damage and you should take it to a repair center and have it tested (it's free) if the battery is over 12 months old or has been charged close to 500x it's best to replace it before the bloating begins.
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That was a good read Evil, thanks. I have a friend with a totally stock (un-rooted) epic 4g touch (Sprint). I just sent him a screenshot of your post, he charges his phone, & like if the phone shuts off or reboots his battery drops significantly. Sometimes he says it shows 0%. He sent me this, any explanation, TIA,
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Battery's bloated. Tell him to take it out and spin it on a table, I'd bet my left nut it spins like a top.
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Hey currently on cm10 (wild for the night) and usually after flashing a new custom rom I like to try and squeeze as much battery life as i can by calibrating my battery with the playstore root version....has worked other times, but now charge hits a blue light at round 90 and i have to leave it going another while till 100? should i run it completely out to nothing & then re-calibrate, or reset battery stats for recovery??
Thanks...
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AOSP roms... all i've been on has got blue light when they hit 90%. when calibrating i always start from 100 and run down to 10%ish and repeat and battery seems calibrated
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Battery's bloated. Tell him to take it out and spin it on a table, I'd bet my left nut it spins like a top.
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You were right, he thought I was trying to make him do something stupid, but he was like, holy s*#t, it does spin like a top. Thanks, oh, is that from over charging & whatnot?
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You were right, he thought I was trying to make him do something stupid, but he was like, holy s*#t, it does spin like a top. Thanks, oh, is that from over charging & whatnot?
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Heat and age. Samsung crammed an extra 300mah worth of cells into a 1500mah housing by cutting the cell walls down to the bare minimum allowed and after a while of heat and charging the chemicals inside start to expand. The walls crack and the chemicals mix which causes a reaction then the battery swells cuz theres nowhere for the expanding gasses to escape to until the outter structure gives way and the battery ruptures causing any number of outcomes from a chemical leak to a small explosion.
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aheeejd said:
You were right, he thought I was trying to make him do something stupid, but he was like, holy s*#t, it does spin like a top. Thanks, oh, is that from over charging & whatnot?
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Since he needs a new battery, for aftermarket brands I'd recommend anker or hyperion in that order. He could get 2 anker batterys and an external wall charger for about half what samsung charges for the oem battery. Then he can charge one on external wall charger and swap it out to charge the other and effectively double the life of the batteries and never need to plug his phone in. The batteries stay healthier charging on an external as there's no added heat from using the device while its charging. Amazon has both brands of batteries for about $20 for 2 + charger the ankers are labled and listed as 1800mah but are actually 1950mah just make sure if he has an epic touch to search by model# sph-d710 some of the other s2 variants pins are lined up differently.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Heat and age. Samsung crammed an extra 300mah worth of cells into a 1500mah housing by cutting the cell walls down to the bare minimum allowed and after a while of heat and charging the chemicals inside start to expand. The walls crack and the chemicals mix which causes a reaction then the battery swells cuz theres nowhere for the expanding gasses to escape to until the outter structure gives way and the battery ruptures causing any number of outcomes from a chemical leak to a small explosion.
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Since he needs a new battery, for aftermarket brands I'd recommend anker or hyperion in that order. He could get 2 anker batterys and an external wall charger for about half what samsung charges for the oem battery. Then he can charge one on external wall charger and swap it out to charge the other and effectively double the life of the batteries and never need to plug his phone in. The batteries stay healthier charging on an external as there's no added heat from using the device while its charging. Amazon has both brands of batteries for about $20 for 2 + charger the ankers are labled and listed as 1800mah but are actually 1950mah just make sure if he has an epic touch to search by model# sph-d710 some of the other s2 variants pins are lined up differently.
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Yes..I see yer point, Ok normally im not a chargeaholic but i could dial it down a notch. the battery on spins on one side, other side nada...Are the results still the same for me??
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Yes..I see yer point, Ok normally im not a chargeaholic but i could dial it down a notch. the battery on spins on one side, other side nada...Are the results still the same for me??
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Should be flat on both sides.
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There is no charging issue. You should see a blue led for 90 to 100 and a purple led for 0 to 15. The charging indicators are different on cm10 from touchwiz but the battery percentage should still bee accurate.
LordFan21 said:
There is no charging issue. You should see a blue led for 90 to 100 and a purple led for 0 to 15. The charging indicators are different on cm10 from touchwiz but the battery percentage should still bee accurate.
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If you would have taken the time to read, you would know that it has all been figured out.
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Holy sh¡t EK, is there anything you don't know? Self defense, batteries.. are you an android yourself?
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Holy sh¡t EK, is there anything you don't know? Self defense, batteries.. are you an android yourself?
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I am an android.... I was an alpha that went rogue
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Holy sh¡t EK, is there anything you don't know? Self defense, batteries.. are you an android yourself?
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I read alot, always have. Weapons, electronics & software, watches, vehicles and medical and criminal justice stuff is mostly what I read. Most of the males in my family were military I grew up learning self defense since I could walk. I'm a curious person so I research anything that catches my attention.
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Has anyone purchased the Hyperion Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus 3800mAh Extended Battery from Amazon? How has battery life been with it?
$25 for such a large battery sounds quite suspicious... but the amazon reviews arent that bad!
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Exte...1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1333678914&sr=8-1-fkmr0
I got one and was getting very similar battery life as the 2100mah.
I used it for 2 weeks, so 14+ cycles.
I just got the Seidio one today. I hope it performs better.
NCRoadster said:
I got one and was getting very similar battery life as the 2100mah.
I used it for 2 weeks, so 14+ cycles.
I just got the Seidio one today. I hope it performs better.
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Bummer, but I guess you get what you pay for!
And the seidio works with nfc on both the GSM and lte versions
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I purchased the Hyperion battery (CDMA Verizon version) which can be seen on amazon.com here:
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Exte...XRJY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1334074283&sr=8-5
Bought mine through eBay, link here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hyperion-Ve...ps=63&clkid=7624751104796442131#ht_500wt_1413
I got great battery life from the battery. On the first day with a full a charge, it lasted approximately 30 hours with some pretty moderate usage. Not bad for the first full charge.
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It is quite heavy and bulky though, nowhere near as svelte as the stock. It doesn't look that bad really, the back cover is textured like the stock cover.
Says it has NFC capabilities, but I don't use them, so I am not sure.
The one thing I found curious about it is the seeming uptick on the battery percentage at some times. Percentage would go up a percent or two every now and then when not charging or being used. I did not wipe battery stats prior to using this, so that may explain it. I will continue using the battery (back to the svelte stock today), but it has outperformed my hopes so far.
eh...a little out of budget
whats the sceen on time?
I'm able to get 5:30 hours of screen on time with the official 2000mah extended battery on my gsm gn.
I'm looking to get an extended battery, but it needs to do at least 7 hours of screen on time for it to be worth it.
Lincolnmking said:
I purchased the Hyperion battery (CDMA Verizon version) which can be seen on amazon.com here:
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Exte...XRJY/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1334074283&sr=8-5
Bought mine through eBay, link here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hyperion-Ve...ps=63&clkid=7624751104796442131#ht_500wt_1413
I got great battery life from the battery. On the first day with a full a charge, it lasted approximately 30 hours with some pretty moderate usage. Not bad for the first full charge.
It is quite heavy and bulky though, nowhere near as svelte as the stock. It doesn't look that bad really, the back cover is textured like the stock cover.
Says it has NFC capabilities, but I don't use them, so I am not sure.
The one thing I found curious about it is the seeming uptick on the battery percentage at some times. Percentage would go up a percent or two every now and then when not charging or being used. I did not wipe battery stats prior to using this, so that may explain it. I will continue using the battery (back to the svelte stock today), but it has outperformed my hopes so far.
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dwang said:
whats the sceen on time?
I'm able to get 5:30 hours of screen on time with the official 2000mah extended battery on my gsm gn.
I'm looking to get an extended battery, but it needs to do at least 7 hours of screen on time for it to be worth it.
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Don't have a number yet. Doing another test today. Will update. Of course, the battery varies whether I am in LTE range or not. Also varies with brightness of the screen, etc. Therefore, I don't think screen on time by itself is very helpful in the determination.
Can u put some pics to see what it looks like with cover etc.? Any suggestion on compatible cases that might fit...?
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Can u put some pics to see what it looks like with cover etc.? Any suggestion on compatible cases that might fit...?
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I'd also like to see pictures of these, as I am also wondering if these would fit with any cases. Thanks.
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I'd also like to see pictures of these, as I am also wondering if these would fit with any cases. Thanks.
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The newly released Seido spring clip holster is designed for either a "naked" CDMA Galaxy Nexus -- or one sporting one of the monster extended batteries.
Link: http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-spring-clip-holster-p/hlssgnlas.htm
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Lincolnmking said:
The one thing I found curious about it is the seeming uptick on the battery percentage at some times. Percentage would go up a percent or two every now and then when not charging or being used. I did not wipe battery stats prior to using this, so that may explain it. I will continue using the battery (back to the svelte stock today), but it has outperformed my hopes so far.
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Clearing battery stats does NOTHING. N.O.T.H.I.N.G. The "uptick" is what happens when you slam the battery really hard (video streaming, gaming, whatever) and cause it to drop. The voltage will recover a bit from that once you stop, which cause the phone to recalculate the remaining power. All lithium batteries do this, you just notice it more on large cells because you can drain two watts from it without it dying first.
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I'd also like to see pictures of these, as I am also wondering if these would fit with any cases. Thanks.
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I will put some pictures up tonight or tomorrow. I don't use a case, so I don't know about what would fit. It is quite different size-wize, so something like the Seido case referenced above or a "bumper" case is probably your best bet.
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Clearing battery stats does NOTHING. N.O.T.H.I.N.G. The "uptick" is what happens when you slam the battery really hard (video streaming, gaming, whatever) and cause it to drop. The voltage will recover a bit from that once you stop, which cause the phone to recalculate the remaining power. All lithium batteries do this, you just notice it more on large cells because you can drain two watts from it without it dying first.
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Wow, I was just guessing, no reason to get so upset about it. I don't know much about that kind of stuff so I was just guessing while making my observations. Sorry for being uninformed on the matter.
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29 hours on a charge this time. Probably 2-3 hours of LTE during that period - that definitely makes a dent. Pretty consistent use with a few heavy segments of use.
And for your question regarding on screen time:
But, like I said, I don't think you can judge too much off of that. All depends on screen brightness, LTE, etc.
Lincolnmking said:
Wow, I was just guessing, no reason to get so upset about it. I don't know much about that kind of stuff so I was just guessing while making my observations. Sorry for being uninformed on the matter.
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I wasn't upset, nor do I blame you for thinking the way you did. That rumor swirled around here for the better part of 2 years. It just needs to be made abundantly clear to everyone that the battStats myth is a placebo. It doesn't do anything. In fact, the stats get cleared every time you unplug your phone after you charge it.
Pictures
As promised, here are some pictures:
The first two are with the stock battery installed:
Next three are just the covers, side by side. Stock obviously on the left in the first two.
Last three are the extended battery installed.
Let me know if you would like some other shots taken.
Overall, I am very satisfied with the battery. i easily get 1 day without having to charge. I actually like the heft that is added with the battery as well, makes the phone more substantial and seem less fragile.
I bought this battery as soon as I saw the thread. I received and installed it yesterday. I charged it for the full twelve hours that the manufacturer recommended and I'm on my first cycle now... so I can't comment on battery life. But as for the battery cover... it doesn't fit as well as I had planned. But it stays on, and is comfortable to hold. I actually like the larger back and the added weight that the battery brings.
I will report back with battery results after a few charge cycles.
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Znomon said:
I bought this battery as soon as I saw the thread. I received and installed it yesterday. I charged it for the full twelve hours that the manufacturer recommended and I'm on my first cycle now... so I can't comment on battery life. But as for the battery cover... it doesn't fit as well as I had planned. But it stays on, and is comfortable to hold. I actually like the larger back and the added weight that the battery brings.
I will report back with battery results after a few charge cycles.
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Battery cover fits fine on mine, see my pics above, no problems. The bottom corners of the cover are starting to rub and the paint is coming off though. It makes the corners kind of black.
NCRoadster said:
I got one and was getting very similar battery life as the 2100mah.
I used it for 2 weeks, so 14+ cycles.
I just got the Seidio one today. I hope it performs better.
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I am looking to get the one from Verizon 2100mAh.
Does this 2100 one increase the thinkness of the phones?
also how is it compared to the original 1850mAh?
Thanks.
ATnTdude said:
Clearing battery stats does NOTHING. N.O.T.H.I.N.G. The "uptick" is what happens when you slam the battery really hard (video streaming, gaming, whatever) and cause it to drop. The voltage will recover a bit from that once you stop, which cause the phone to recalculate the remaining power. All lithium batteries do this, you just notice it more on large cells because you can drain two watts from it without it dying first.
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Be a Clear Battery Stat athiest if you want but don't push your liberal beliefs upon others.
Wipe 3x before flashing
and Clearing Battery Stats is sacrosanct.
We hold the faith.
Znomon said:
I bought this battery as soon as I saw the thread. I received and installed it yesterday. I charged it for the full twelve hours that the manufacturer recommended and I'm on my first cycle now... so I can't comment on battery life. But as for the battery cover... it doesn't fit as well as I had planned. But it stays on, and is comfortable to hold. I actually like the larger back and the added weight that the battery brings.
I will report back with battery results after a few charge cycles.
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Can you provide a review now that you have used it for a few weeks?
hey guys,
So I got both of this big boys and decided to do a side by side comparison. I can tell you both are very good batteries ..both do their job and for the price gap between them the difference is not substantial .
If you are still undecided which battery to pick, this review might help u
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0fGu9X2g4&list=UUYgF4PNrTj7Sfw3YTJGO9xg&index=1&feature=plcp
Great review TY.
Bought my innocell 3800 about 4 weeks ago and love it.
Price is a bit steep, but nfc compatible and super long lasting.
Average use I get 36-40 hours (nonstop LTE). And heavy use about 25-30 hours (nonstop LTE)
Again thanks for the review
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Glad it helped you!. your times are similar as mine. I think its a good investment ..but I cant use extended batteries all the time. I like to retain the thin profile..Man i even hate cases but Im too stupid to not have one because I drop phones like crazy lol
I'v tried Seidio innocell and its pretty good
here is what i got from it
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would love to try out the Mugen battery
Thank you so much for the video review! I always hated extended batteries because of how it made the phone look, but I think the mugen battery cover doesn't look bad at all. I think it's because how it looks at the end/bottom of the phone (doesn't protrude out as much).
I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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I try to go from full charge to like 10 or 5 percent however work and school dont let me do that everyday. so little charges here and there happen all the time . But at night if im low i let it charge
nope I didnt get that issue at all..But what i found with every single extended is that the first full charge is INSANE ..its so good that creates an standard..I dont know why lol but after that its been steady.
What rom are you on? And do you have any battery mods?
I'm on arhd 4.0.1 with the circles mod.
You think that could have anything to do with it?
I'll post back in a couple days after the battery wipe and full charge. Maybe my battery mod is throwing it off.
Thanks again for the info
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What rom are you on? And do you have any battery mods?
I'm on arhd 4.0.1 with the circles mod.
You think that could have anything to do with it?
I'll post back in a couple days after the battery wipe and full charge. Maybe my battery mod is throwing it off.
Thanks again for the info
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I'm running aokp milestone 5,. No battery mods at all
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So apex launcher was causing misreads on my battery somehow and was draining it slightly more than stock launcher. Now back to stock launcher with circles battery mod and getting 1 day and 16-18 hours
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So apex launcher was causing misreads on my battery somehow and was draining it slightly more than stock launcher. Now back to stock launcher with circles battery mod and getting 1 day and 16-18 hours
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nice! I hate how some little things can screw things up
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
So how about you buy both those batteries and buy 2 galaxy nexuses and do a review yourself? Then provide us your input on what you have found.
I do agree that the person left out an important part but he did do a battery review. Any information is appreciated and physical features can make or break a persons decision on a product even if it isn't important to you. I for one will thank the reviewer on his input between those batteries and leave negative comments out the window.
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Jiia said:
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
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What about this..why dont u pay attention to the part that I say " if you want to see the power of each one..please check its independent videos..as I cant do the comparison in one video for that because It will last 15 minutes
Jiia said:
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSyOJ02LJs&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSyOJ02LJs&feature=plcp
Drakkula4 said:
I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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I think the charging pattern is not really relevant when it comes to li-ion batteries...what is important is to make the phone understand that there is new capacity used. These hi-end batteries last for 400-500 recharges so I think that if you get less battery life, you should just re-calibrate it.
Mugen btw has a user-guide with calibration process described there http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/user-guide It's a no-brainer for a generic user, but it does it's job. Just I don't think it's good for your battery if you do it often...
Just looking for some feedback on some of the amazon/ebay batteries
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I received my Hyperions and universal charger yesterday. I'm not sure the prongs were adjusted to the right position on the charger. I charged one in the charger and one in the phone. After six+ hrs, the one in the charger had not completed. When I put it in the phone, it was at 56%, so I don't think it was right. I'll be checking for the correct polarity (positions). I ended up charging the 2nd one in the phone overnight. Took it off the charger at 7:00 this morning.
Because I only had the one battery, I have yet to fully deplete the oem battery.
I will post with my impressions after the Hyperion fully discharges and I can do the same to the oem one for comparision.
Got 27 hours out of it. Moderate/minimal usage. Had an appt. so couldn't wait for it to shut down. Meter said 12% when I changed it. But I'm very happy with 27 hrs..
Polarity was a bit clearer on the oem battery. I moved the sliding contact on the Hyperion charger to the first and third contacts and that seems to be charging correctly.
There is a video review of those batteries on YouTube. I think it's under the Zedomax channel or the High On Android one. Good review. I'm going to be ordering the charger and 2 battery pack. Only 20 bucks...
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I received my Hyperions and universal charger yesterday. I'm not sure the prongs were adjusted to the right position on the charger. I charged one in the charger and one in the phone. After six+ hrs, the one in the charger had not completed. When I put it in the phone, it was at 56%, so I don't think it was right. I'll be checking for the correct polarity (positions). I ended up charging the 2nd one in the phone overnight. Took it off the charger at 7:00 this morning.
Because I only had the one battery, I have yet to fully deplete the oem battery.
I will post with my impressions after the Hyperion fully discharges and I can do the same to the oem one for comparision.
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These charges aren't compatible with galaxy s III batteries. I've charged batteries overnight and come back and it's still only 91%, and the full charge indicator is blue.
Has anyone ever has good luck with generic batteries? I've tried various ones from eBay or Amazon with my last three phones and thought they sucked compared to the oem. I swore to just buy real batteries this time.
Just to clarify, the NFC chip is in the battery, so 3rd party batteries will be missing this
Yep no chip. It's good as a spare battery still.
And I can back up the thing about the charger. It never did give the oem battery full charge. It's a POS in my opinion anyway.
The OEM battery gave me just slightly better time until it got down to 14%. So i think these Hyperions are pretty good notwithstanding the lack of the chip.
I happen to really like my Hyperion batteries so far. They seem to last just as long as my OEM battery.
When I use the Universal Charger the highest I have gotten the batteries charged up to has been 96%.
It takes a very long time to charge them. You know that you have the prongs in the right place if the light lights up blue when you connect the battery to the charger while it is OUT of the wall sockets. When you plug it in to the wall it will turn a pinkish red.
I hope that helps
I bought two Anker batteries. I had great luck with the Anker batteries on my Captivate, better than stock and way better than the generic batteries.
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my hyperion batts work great but the charger is crap im going to take it apart and mod it at work so the pins wont move see if that helps..but the usb port on the side works good for charging the phone..no NFC but very good battery so far plus i need to cycle it and break it in..the OEM one has more use like said before.. but this battery is good for back ups .. im looking to get a OEM samsung charger with the battery/spare/dock..i think im good with 2 batts.. 2 OEM batts should work out for my use but now ill have 4 batts
i love this replacing battery..unlike iphone haha no more buying iphones for me
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I bought two Anker batteries. I had great luck with the Anker batteries on my Captivate, better than stock and way better than the generic batteries.
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Same for me anker was 1-2 hours longer than my stock evo batteries
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These charges aren't compatible with galaxy s III batteries. I've charged batteries overnight and come back and it's still only 91%, and the full charge indicator is blue.
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Have you found anything that will charge stock to 100%?
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johnhazelwood said:
I bought two Anker batteries. I had great luck with the Anker batteries on my Captivate, better than stock and way better than the generic batteries.
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There was a time when the only spare batteries I bought were Anker. They make high quality aftermarket batts that's for sure. Did you receive these yet? Do you like them?
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These charges aren't compatible with galaxy s III batteries. I've charged batteries overnight and come back and it's still only 91%, and the full charge indicator is blue.
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Yeah I just posted the same on my thread......gonna get the dock charger w/ oem battery. I think I'll be giving the nfc tags a try so will want an oem battery for a spare.
I have the same issues with the Universal charger that came with Anker. 95% is the max I can get out from it.
China batteries
NOTE: I have not tried this for my gs3 but i had the same brand for my droid x and I must say they are not as high quality as the OEM (of course) but the price for 3 back-up batteries are priceless also if you are having troubles with the chargers, this one fits perfectly and charges them full.
Also does anyone know if using non-OEM batteries will in turn degrade the life span of the original battery?
I picked up sime batteries that are marked NFC, but I'd like to verify that they are indeed NFC capable.
Outside of going to an NFC enabled credit card terminal, or testing it directly with another NFC enabled phone, is there a way to verify that it is indeed an NFC capable battery, like an app? Thanks.
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Warning! watch out for the Fake batteries on ebay
I bought a couple batteries to test, but I was extremely disappointed. No NFC chip, just a good sticker on a real crappy battery.
Don't buy from:
shinging2011
2 x 2100mah OEM Battery + Dock Charger For Samsung Galaxy S3 18.99
I barely get about 8 hours with either of these and now on of the pins broke on the charger.
Meh, prob'ly don't get these
I got these "2500mAh" via Ebay.
I properly "conditioned" them both, as well as I could. One lasts just a little longer than stock. It's a decent replacement battery, and it was cheaper than the Hyperion. The other doesn't charge all the way, ever after 15 hours total on three different chargers, so it's a dud. I haven't followed up on it yet. (I was going to do a proper test, but I just haven't had a day/evening off to do that either.)
My guess is that streaming video at full brightness with all radios on, the good one would last another 10 minutes. I rather think the risk of getting a bad one isn't worth buying them.
After I recover from my phone accessory binge, I'm planning on buying a proper OEM with the NFC chip. I'm getting addicted to it, even without being able to shell out cash with it, and I'm tired of how fast the cheap batteries (four months to a year or so) end up not taking a charge - I've gone the cheap-battery route since the HTC Wizard (released with WinMo 3.0), and although I can't complain too much, I've ended up spending just as much on replacing the cheap stuff as I would have buying the real deal, but with more hassle and more garbage. (Sorry Mom Earth, I'll do better next time.)
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I picked up sime batteries that are marked NFC, but I'd like to verify that they are indeed NFC capable.
Outside of going to an NFC enabled credit card terminal, or testing it directly with another NFC enabled phone, is there a way to verify that it is indeed an NFC capable battery, like an app? Thanks.
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Put it in an NFC-capable phone (that works with the OEM) and see if it beeps when you hold it up to a $1 tag.
I'm finding the tags indespensible around the house. This technology is going to be amazing for groceries. I'm jonsing for a wifi-connected refrigerator with a reader in it.
I don't really care about the NFC capability, but I too am tired of buying cheap batteries that just don't work well. I'm really wondering if the extra money is really worth it for the legit OEM batteries. I've only had my S3 now a few days and haven't really had a good chance yet to evaluate battery life on the stock battery.
this is a mod for using two OEM Samsung batteries together for a "real" 4200mAh extended battery. unlike most 3rd party batteries the OEM ones tend to be much closer to their rated tolerance voltages and mAh.
this thing is a BEAST!
DIY:
i am not responsible for any bad stuff that happens to you or your phone. im not right in the head, i have a modding sickness and i do crazy stuff to expencive things i have only owned for a few days. so folowing this DIY means your crazy too and dont care if your phone blows up in your pocket or whatever...
if you have never soldered anything before. just stop now... dont do this mod.
if you bridge the wrong contacts with solder your battery WILL catch on fire, melt and possibly explode. this is not a joke!
please dont post questions about asking how to solder etc. i will flat out ignore them as i dont want you to do this mod if you dont have exp in this dept.
also make sure BOTH batteries are charged up to at least 4.3v before even starting.
for ref:
battery 1 is the one closest to the phone
battery 2 is the one with NFC and furthest away from the phone
now for the directions...
if you dont care about NFC and just want the battery to work ignore everything below. just tape the batteries together and just solder the + & - contacts in parallel. bam! your done. :good:
for working NFC: :fingers-crossed:
1. remove silver outer sticker from both batteries & remove the NFC sticker from only battery 1 (not sure if removing the NFC sticker is 100% necessary but its what i did). then take the little black end caps with the water mark stickers off. you can just pry them off pretty easily.
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2. tin the following contacts on each battery.
3. tape off the following contacts on battery 1 only.
4. use a tiny bit of double sided tape to join the two batteries together. dont use too much tho, just in case you ever need to take them apart later. make sure the batteries are positioned correctly. you want battery 2 (with NFC) on the out side.
5. use foil tape or copper tape to go over top of the tape you already put on battery 1and solder it to the parallel contacts on battery 2.
what your doing here is just telling the circuit to ignore battery 1's passive contacts for NFC and jump the circuit to battery 2 to power the NFC sticker.
6. now solder the following contacts.
7. tape the two batteries together so if you need to pull the battery the whole assembly will come out in one piece.
8. tape off the exposed contacts just for safety sake.
first 8hrs off the charger
no power saving stuff. no wifi, 2hrs of Pandora over Bluetooth.
That is awesome I have always wanted to try that. Do they book h charge in the phone via USB?
I have noticed that the cheapo honk Kong battery's are just 2 smaller battery's weird together.
I would think that OEM battery's would be great plus you still have nfc.
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Very impressive! I have my reservations about doing custom battery mods like that but it seems its really working out for you. Very nice.
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Nice! This is what I am going to do if the Hyperion battery doesn't work as advertised. It actually is pretty safe if it is wired correctly. Heck if I remember right Mugen or Seidio has even done it on some of their batteries so it has to be safe
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So no NFC ?
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very interested in a guide
Nfc work?
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To be honest i don't use NFC. I don't even know what I can test it on.
i did intend to have it work thats why i disconnected the NFC on one of the batteries. i didnt want it to get confused . lol
end of first cycle:
moderate use over long day.... slept for 4 hrs (you can see it flatten out near the end) then i hit things pretty hard with web browsing for the last stretch.
about 1 hr of Power Amp, 2 hrs of pandora. 30min GPS. 30min of games, a bunch of random youtube searches in HD. always on 4G
no wifi, everything else on. no power saving. auto brightness.
this cycle didnt really sown the battries true colors. but after this cycle the calabration was much better and it shows in the following posts.
How do your results compare to just one battery? There are people getting 4hours screen on with one battery.
You should plasti dip those exposed wires or something. If one breaks off because of a cold solder and shorts out it could start a fire. At the very least put some electrical tape on it.
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How do your results compare to just one battery? There are people getting 4hours screen on with one battery.
You should plasti dip those exposed wires or something. If one breaks off because of a cold solder and shorts out it could start a fire. At the very least put some electrical tape on it.
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Good point...screen on time is not important as cpu max load. If your phone work ar max load it will die a lot quicker than screen on
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Any update in your battery?
Would be possible to use a generic extended battery housing and swap out the battery's with Samsung ones?
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Any update in your battery?
Would be possible to use a generic extended battery housing and swap out the battery's with Samsung ones?
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nope. at least not with my Max power ones. i was going to try to use the same charging circuit board off the Max power batts but the samsung cells are bigger and dont fit inside the non-OEM case underneath the stickers.
however the battery door from my Max power batts does fit the phone with the modded Samsung 4200mAh if thats what your asking?
i actually haven't gone thru any full discharges other than the ones i posted due to a really busy work schedule. but i will update ASAP.
update:
25hrs off the charger. 3hrs screen time, played N64 emu for about 45min, poweramp for 2hrs, pandora for 1.5hrs, 30min of web browsing, 45 min of voice calls, etc...
all radios on except WiFi. been on 4G this whole time. no power saving, auto brightness.
still got 41% left.
need to figure out what "Media server" is and why its taken more power than my browser...
That's from media streaming
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Sweet, thanks.
Currently @ 6% and over 7hrs screen time. Ill prob be able to squeeze 36hrs out of thisbattery with no compromise on my usage. On heavy use days (more web and screen time) I'd surly be able to get a full 16-18 hrs of use.
Ill post screen shots when i get down to 1-2%
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Sweet, thanks.
Currently @ 6% and over 7hrs screen time. Ill prob be able to squeeze 36hrs out of thisbattery with no compromise on my usage. On heavy use days (more web and screen time) I'd surly be able to get a full 16-18 hrs of use.
Ill post screen shots when i get down to 1-2%
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U need to post an extensive guide on how to do this.
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U need to post an extensive guide on how to do this.
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i will but im pretty sure NFC is not working right now. ill have to do some crazy soldering tricks to get it working. worst part is that it all will be off theory. as i still cant find a schematic.
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Update:
i had it down to 4% and then i had to use my GPS for a longer period of time than the batt would last so to avoid taking screen shots and rebooting during my trip i had to just put it on the charger. but here are the screen shots. im pretty happy with the results.
mind you i would not consider this "heavy use" for my normal day to day. but the idea is accomplished. i have a battery that can last me 1 full day now matter how hard i beat on it. :victory:
all radios on (except WiFi) always on 4G, no power saving, auto brightness.
5hrs of pandora
3hrs of PowerAmp
1hr of N64oid
7hrs screen time
45min voice calls
Haha that is some mad scientist sh*t, nice.
Just got my no lemon slim battery works for the active. Got 2 batteries and charger for 19.99
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boss336 said:
Just got my no lemon slim battery works for the active. Got 2 batteries and charger for 19.99
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Nice!:good: I've seen some good reviews for zerolemon batteries. I want to eventually buy some myself. I heard the zerolemon charger takes ages to charge the battery though but the batteries themselves are solid.
It charges it quick its a 3000 mh battery and slim no bulky case
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ah that's good to hear
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It charges it quick its a 3000 mh battery and slim no bulky case
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let us know if you get extra juice with it, other 3000 mah batteries with no size change seem to be equal or less in my experience.
Works good get about 20 hrs
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That is for S4, not S4 Active, I assume the two batteries are different .
The S4 (GS4) and the S4 Active (GS4A) share the same battery, thankfully: 2600 mAh stock, same size, specs, everything. I got a brand new one from Samsung just a few days ago (used that 50% coupon code they offered me when I registered my GS4A) and here's shots of the packaging:
you ewesters
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The S4 (GS4) and the S4 Active (GS4A) share the same battery, thankfully: 2600 mAh stock, same size, specs, everything. I got a brand new one from Samsung just a few days ago (used that 50% coupon code they offered me when I registered my GS4A) and here's shots of the packaging:
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Could you please share the link? I'm interested in getting one.
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That is for S4, not S4 Active, I assume the two batteries are different .
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2 batteries are same, actually most parts are same, or else the cost would be much higher for Samsung.
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Could you please share the link? I'm interested in getting one.
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2 batteries are same, actually most parts are same, or else the cost would be much higher for Samsung.
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This may or may not be the link:
http://www.amazon.com/warranty-Zero..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1385492577&sr=1-4
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Just got my no lemon slim battery works for the active. Got 2 batteries and charger for 19.99
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I've seen some (S4, I think) reviews that say that the battery is a bit thicker than the original one and, that the back cover bulges a bit. Does this happen with the S4 Active as well? Having more betteries sounds nice but, I don't really want to have my water resistant phone become less resistant because of the battery.
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It charges it quick its a 3000 mh battery and slim no bulky case
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when you say "no bulky case", I assume you're using your stock back cover. Can you answer the question below?
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This may or may not be the link:
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I've seen some (S4, I think) reviews that say that the battery is a bit thicker than the original one and, that the back cover bulges a bit. Does this happen with the S4 Active as well? Having more betteries sounds nice but, I don't really want to have my water resistant phone become less resistant because of the battery.
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it will fit the zerolemon on active?
.i want to buy the zerolemon battery 3000 mah (no nfc) for s4 but i want to know if it will fit on s4 active i537 insite the gasket because the s4 active is water resistance (ip67) i want to know if the dimencions of the stock battery is the same one with zerolemon 3000 mah because i dont want to lose the water resistance.....
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.i want to buy the zerolemon battery 3000 mah (no nfc) for s4 but i want to know if it will fit on s4 active i537 insite the gasket because the s4 active is water resistance (ip67) i want to know if the dimencions of the stock battery is the same one with zerolemon 3000 mah because i dont want to lose the water resistance.....
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I will let you know of the results when mine arrive within the next week or so, but they are *meant* to be the same size.
tiskael said:
I will let you know of the results when mine arrive within the next week or so, but they are *meant* to be the same size.
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any news ?
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any news ?
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Yes, they actually got delivered yesterday but the instructions say to charged them for 12 hours before use for optimal performance. I just put them in so no I can't make comment on battery life as of yet.
The packing was all quite nice/professional and the batteries feel solid. The postage also came well within estimated time frame.
Are they bigger than the Samsung batteries (in physical size)? Yes, they are noticeably thicker if you put the batteries end to end by maybe a millimetre. Would this compromise your water-seal? I can't say for sure, but I would not risk dunking the device in a bath tub while it has a zero-lemon in it.
I will do a better review tomorrow after some proper use.
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Yes, they actually got delivered yesterday but the instructions say to charged them for 12 hours before use for optimal performance. I just put them in so no I can't make comment on battery life as of yet.
The packing was all quite nice/professional and the batteries feel solid. The postage also came well within estimated time frame.
Are they bigger than the Samsung batteries (in physical size)? Yes, they are noticeably thicker if you put the batteries end to end by maybe a millimetre. Would this compromise your water-seal? I can't say for sure, but I would not risk dunking the device in a bath tub while it has a zero-lemon in it.
I will do a better review tomorrow after some proper use.
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ok great thanks for sharing this. I ordered mine last week since my original samsung battery is dead.. Can't wait to receive them..
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mazuno said:
ok great thanks for sharing this. I ordered mine last week since my original samsung battery is dead.. Can't wait to receive them..
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I will get to the water-resistance first and then move onto other aspects in this review as I think that's what most people are concerned about.
I did several tests, but the ultimate outcome is that the zerolemon does compromise the seal. I put the bottom of the phone in a bowl of water for about 5 seconds with a samsung battery and then for 30 seconds, neither time did the seal break. I then did the same with the zero lemon. After 5 seconds, it appeared to be solid. After 30 seconds, the water had flowed in. I only put the bottom of the phone in as there is essentially little to worry about getting wet there. I would not expect the phone to survive being dropped in a pool or bathtub with a zero-lemon. Maybe a sink or toilet bowl if rescued quickly.
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As for battery life, it makes me through a full day of heavy use. While using samsung batteries, I would carry around a spare with me but I feel I wont need to do that anymore. This is still a very good option if you don't feel like sacrificing your water resistance or NFC. YOU WILL LOSE NFC. Zero lemon is able to give you that extra 400mah of power by removing NFC. This is fine for me, because NFC hasn't really been utilised in Australia by mobile phones yet, but with the expected release of Google Wallet here in the near future, I'll be keeping my Samsung batteries nearby. This leads me onto how I expect to use my batteries:
I think I will be using my zero-lemon while mostly on (long) day trips for work or fun around the city. I can carry the spare around if I think I may need to, but I doubt it. I also feel there would be less water hazards as compared to at home. At home, I will be using the samsung batteries as I feel I'm far more likely to get the phone wet at home where there are sinks, bathtubs, toilets, buckets of water, etc. I can also switch out on of my now four batteries at any time without having to carry it on me. I think the zero-lemons will become spares once NFC takes off in Australia, assuming I still have the S4A at that point.
The "worlds fastest charger" takes the same amount of time to charge a zero lemon battery as the samsung charger does to charge the samsung battery. This does mean that the charger is a fair amount faster. I haven't tested how long it takes to charge a samsung battery in the "worlds fastest charger" as I don't want to damage the samsung batteries and I am of the belief that the batteries actually limit the charge speed if you're not using an official Samsung charger(?).
One last thing about the batteries. If you look on the bottom of your Samsung batteries, there are little point bits that I assume are there purely to hold the battery in place. The Zero Lemon's are missing these, but the battery is already a very tight fit anyway, but it could be something to keep in mind.
If there's anything else you think I've forgotten, then let me know and I'll edit it in.
thx for your replies!!!! god blessed you
I also received my zerolemon batteries a couple of days ago. I have to say that they work really great and they hold charge a significant bit longer than the original samsung battery. i have now more than a normal usage day.
But it is then true that they are a bit bigger and there is now a small gap in the back cover, under the speaker, where water could sneak in if the phone were immerged.. which is not so cool
Regarding the wall charger I couldnt say much since I live in Europe and it is designed for US wall power points... I might aswell get my hands on an adapter.. no hurry anyway.
all in all they are really good batteries.
cheers
hi would that battery fit the i9295 variant?
i have an S4 active i9295 and was considering buying an original s4 battery but wasn't sure if it would fit my phone,can anyone verify?