this is a mod for using two OEM Samsung batteries together for a "real" 4200mAh extended battery. unlike most 3rd party batteries the OEM ones tend to be much closer to their rated tolerance voltages and mAh.
this thing is a BEAST!
DIY:
i am not responsible for any bad stuff that happens to you or your phone. im not right in the head, i have a modding sickness and i do crazy stuff to expencive things i have only owned for a few days. so folowing this DIY means your crazy too and dont care if your phone blows up in your pocket or whatever...
if you have never soldered anything before. just stop now... dont do this mod.
if you bridge the wrong contacts with solder your battery WILL catch on fire, melt and possibly explode. this is not a joke!
please dont post questions about asking how to solder etc. i will flat out ignore them as i dont want you to do this mod if you dont have exp in this dept.
also make sure BOTH batteries are charged up to at least 4.3v before even starting.
for ref:
battery 1 is the one closest to the phone
battery 2 is the one with NFC and furthest away from the phone
now for the directions...
if you dont care about NFC and just want the battery to work ignore everything below. just tape the batteries together and just solder the + & - contacts in parallel. bam! your done. :good:
for working NFC: :fingers-crossed:
1. remove silver outer sticker from both batteries & remove the NFC sticker from only battery 1 (not sure if removing the NFC sticker is 100% necessary but its what i did). then take the little black end caps with the water mark stickers off. you can just pry them off pretty easily.
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2. tin the following contacts on each battery.
3. tape off the following contacts on battery 1 only.
4. use a tiny bit of double sided tape to join the two batteries together. dont use too much tho, just in case you ever need to take them apart later. make sure the batteries are positioned correctly. you want battery 2 (with NFC) on the out side.
5. use foil tape or copper tape to go over top of the tape you already put on battery 1and solder it to the parallel contacts on battery 2.
what your doing here is just telling the circuit to ignore battery 1's passive contacts for NFC and jump the circuit to battery 2 to power the NFC sticker.
6. now solder the following contacts.
7. tape the two batteries together so if you need to pull the battery the whole assembly will come out in one piece.
8. tape off the exposed contacts just for safety sake.
first 8hrs off the charger
no power saving stuff. no wifi, 2hrs of Pandora over Bluetooth.
That is awesome I have always wanted to try that. Do they book h charge in the phone via USB?
I have noticed that the cheapo honk Kong battery's are just 2 smaller battery's weird together.
I would think that OEM battery's would be great plus you still have nfc.
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Very impressive! I have my reservations about doing custom battery mods like that but it seems its really working out for you. Very nice.
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Nice! This is what I am going to do if the Hyperion battery doesn't work as advertised. It actually is pretty safe if it is wired correctly. Heck if I remember right Mugen or Seidio has even done it on some of their batteries so it has to be safe
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So no NFC ?
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very interested in a guide
Nfc work?
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To be honest i don't use NFC. I don't even know what I can test it on.
i did intend to have it work thats why i disconnected the NFC on one of the batteries. i didnt want it to get confused . lol
end of first cycle:
moderate use over long day.... slept for 4 hrs (you can see it flatten out near the end) then i hit things pretty hard with web browsing for the last stretch.
about 1 hr of Power Amp, 2 hrs of pandora. 30min GPS. 30min of games, a bunch of random youtube searches in HD. always on 4G
no wifi, everything else on. no power saving. auto brightness.
this cycle didnt really sown the battries true colors. but after this cycle the calabration was much better and it shows in the following posts.
How do your results compare to just one battery? There are people getting 4hours screen on with one battery.
You should plasti dip those exposed wires or something. If one breaks off because of a cold solder and shorts out it could start a fire. At the very least put some electrical tape on it.
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How do your results compare to just one battery? There are people getting 4hours screen on with one battery.
You should plasti dip those exposed wires or something. If one breaks off because of a cold solder and shorts out it could start a fire. At the very least put some electrical tape on it.
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Good point...screen on time is not important as cpu max load. If your phone work ar max load it will die a lot quicker than screen on
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Any update in your battery?
Would be possible to use a generic extended battery housing and swap out the battery's with Samsung ones?
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Any update in your battery?
Would be possible to use a generic extended battery housing and swap out the battery's with Samsung ones?
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nope. at least not with my Max power ones. i was going to try to use the same charging circuit board off the Max power batts but the samsung cells are bigger and dont fit inside the non-OEM case underneath the stickers.
however the battery door from my Max power batts does fit the phone with the modded Samsung 4200mAh if thats what your asking?
i actually haven't gone thru any full discharges other than the ones i posted due to a really busy work schedule. but i will update ASAP.
update:
25hrs off the charger. 3hrs screen time, played N64 emu for about 45min, poweramp for 2hrs, pandora for 1.5hrs, 30min of web browsing, 45 min of voice calls, etc...
all radios on except WiFi. been on 4G this whole time. no power saving, auto brightness.
still got 41% left.
need to figure out what "Media server" is and why its taken more power than my browser...
That's from media streaming
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Sweet, thanks.
Currently @ 6% and over 7hrs screen time. Ill prob be able to squeeze 36hrs out of thisbattery with no compromise on my usage. On heavy use days (more web and screen time) I'd surly be able to get a full 16-18 hrs of use.
Ill post screen shots when i get down to 1-2%
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Sweet, thanks.
Currently @ 6% and over 7hrs screen time. Ill prob be able to squeeze 36hrs out of thisbattery with no compromise on my usage. On heavy use days (more web and screen time) I'd surly be able to get a full 16-18 hrs of use.
Ill post screen shots when i get down to 1-2%
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U need to post an extensive guide on how to do this.
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U need to post an extensive guide on how to do this.
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i will but im pretty sure NFC is not working right now. ill have to do some crazy soldering tricks to get it working. worst part is that it all will be off theory. as i still cant find a schematic.
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Update:
i had it down to 4% and then i had to use my GPS for a longer period of time than the batt would last so to avoid taking screen shots and rebooting during my trip i had to just put it on the charger. but here are the screen shots. im pretty happy with the results.
mind you i would not consider this "heavy use" for my normal day to day. but the idea is accomplished. i have a battery that can last me 1 full day now matter how hard i beat on it. :victory:
all radios on (except WiFi) always on 4G, no power saving, auto brightness.
5hrs of pandora
3hrs of PowerAmp
1hr of N64oid
7hrs screen time
45min voice calls
Haha that is some mad scientist sh*t, nice.
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I finally broke down and bought an extended battery for the Evo. I bought the 3500 maH battery from gorillagadgets.com. They suggest cycling from completely full to completely empty.
So, I charged it completely, while I waited for that to charge, I ran my stock battery empty from 100% in just under 3 hours using slingbox. I then ran gorilla gadget battery the same way, slingbox running off of 3g, screen on the whole time and got 5:45. Not quite double the battery life, but close.
I ran it down the second time, this time with 4g, wifi (on, not connected), bluetooth, GPS all on. It ran for 4 hours and 45 minutes.
The third charge was more of a real world test for me. I took the phone to work for the first time. Normally at work I have very weak signal, and struggle to get 6 hours without having to replace the battery. After a 9 hour work day my phone was at 60%. It wasn't the heaviest of use days, but I managed to listen to music for 6 hours, text, web and read some articles on pulse.
I ended up just letting the phone run down naturally on its own, in the end the screen on time was just over 3.5 hours. So far I am happy with the purchase.
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Cool. Glad you got good results.
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I see people getting that with stock.. your radio is sucking battery turn it off or get an airwave
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Sounds like something that I might need to look into... Thanks for the review
Really?
Crossrocker said:
I see people getting that with stock.. your radio is sucking battery turn it off or get an airwave
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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I have seen people get that with stock as well. Just not at my work. There are three of us with Evo's and none of us (no matter what Roms/Kernels)last a full day on one charge.
Sure we could beg our IT department to disregard their security policies so we can have an airwave pugged into the network so we can use of our phones. Or I guess I could explain to my wife and daughter if they needed to get a hold of me during the day, sorry I am saving battery life.
Or I can spend $40 for a battery, a back and a case that more than doubles the battery life I was getting, without have to turn of any of the features that make owning the phone great.
Hard decision
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Sounds like something that I might need to look into... Thanks for the review
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If you have any specific questions don't hesitate to ask. I have no problem running tests if you need me to
Whats an airwave
im probably sounding really stupid but your had the same question before you knew what it was.
So whats an airwave
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I have seen people get that with stock as well. Just not at my work. There are three of us with Evo's and none of us (no matter what Roms/Kernels)last a full day on one charge.
Sure we could beg our IT department to disregard their security policies so we can have an airwave pugged into the network so we can use of our phones. Or I guess I could explain to my wife and daughter if they needed to get a hold of me during the day, sorry I am saving battery life.
Or I can spend $40 for a battery, a back and a case that more than doubles the battery life I was getting, without have to turn of any of the features that make owning the phone great.
Hard decision
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Haha i would still go with the airwave
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Airwave is a device similar to VOIP. You plug it into your high speed internet service and it transmits/receives a 1x signal for your phone. Like having a personal cell tower.
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im probably sounding really stupid but your had the same question before you knew what it was.
So whats an airwave
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Cool.
Might have to look into this.
still happy?
Hey
one question...
are you still happy with the battery or has it started to fail and not last as long...
http://gorillagadgets.com/3500mah-evo-4g-extended-life-battery-en.html
thinking about buying, and just wondering if it will last the 8months left i have on my contract till i get a new phone
If Any one has any input on this battery I would be glad to hear. I reallly dont want to start a new thread..
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Airwave is a device similar to VOIP. You plug it into your high speed internet service and it transmits/receives a 1x signal for your phone. Like having a personal cell tower.
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Is it 1x? My phone says 3G when I'm connected to my airave. I'm on AOSP so it does differentiate when I'm on 1x, however it's always 3g when in range of the airave. Not putting you on blast, just genuinely curious.
glad your happy with your battery life but just sayin i got just shy of 16 hours with 56% left on stock battery (9 months old) with actually using my phone not just letting it sit there like people who usually brag about battery. miui 1.9.9 and tiamat 4.0.8 (not sbc)
There is no way you get 15hrs while actually using your phone...I notice browsing the net at 3g burns the battery down fast...I once listened to DI radio and itll only last 3-4 hrs mostly bc the signal is going from 1X to 3g
i beg to differ. my stock battery has lasted almost 8 hours. the gorilla battery which is almost twice as large, i can see lasting close to 16 hours.
What you do with the phone matters & how good the signal is...these factors all make a huge diff...
Noticed a few people gving bad reviews on gg while the seidio got 600 good reviews...GG doesnt last long along with the other cheap batteries...
Pivo187 said:
What you do with the phone matters & how good the signal is...these factors all make a huge diff...
Noticed a few people gving bad reviews on gg while the seidio got 600 good reviews...GG doesnt last long along with the other cheap batteries...
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Confirmed! have had this battery for about 4 months now and it is lasting about half as long as it used to. if anything my battery consumption has been reduced due to various tweeks. and I have not really flashed many new roms. I am now barely getting 6-7 hours with moderate use. The first month or two I was pulling at least 13-14 hours. so my final review..... was worth the price for a quick fix, and I may buy another down the road, if I decide to keep my EVO past my contract ( which I am strongly considering )
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glad your happy with your battery life but just sayin i got just shy of 16 hours with 56% left on stock battery (9 months old) with actually using my phone not just letting it sit there like people who usually brag about battery. miui 1.9.9 and tiamat 4.0.8 (not sbc)
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DUDE! you got some serious wake lock going on there!
Question for the OP or anyone who has this battery: How does the battery door fit to the phone? Does it fit securely, and are there any gaps? Does the plastic scratch easily?
I have the Seido extended 3500mah battery, and not only did it's battery door not fit properly (large gaps) but one of the plastic hooks broke off on the first day. I sent it back to Amazon for an exchange, and the new one had the same problems, although the plastic hook managed to last a week before breaking. Also, the cheap plastic is very prone to scratching.
I purchased a Mugen extended battery door from ebay and it should be here by Monday, and I will post a little review of it.
A30N said:
Question for the OP or anyone who has this battery: How does the battery door fit to the phone? Does it fit securely, and are there any gaps? Does the plastic scratch easily?
I have the Seido extended 3500mah battery, and not only did it's battery door not fit properly (large gaps) but one of the plastic hooks broke off on the first day. I sent it back to Amazon for an exchange, and the new one had the same problems, although the plastic hook managed to last a week before breaking. Also, the cheap plastic is very prone to scratching.
I purchased a Mugen extended battery door from ebay and it should be here by Monday, and I will post a little review of it.
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It is cheap. has gaps and the one of the interior hooks broke last week
It does stay in place but is loosening over time especially If you wind up pulling your battery often.
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Yeah, I swap batteries daily...funny thing is the stock cover has no scratches or broken tabs, and I use it nearly as often as the extended battery (I start the day with the extended battery and then switch to the stock battery when it gets to 10%).
Please let me say, I failed english. Probably all that time I skipped english probably would have served me well....Had I attended, so be gentle on this guy. If this made you laugh, lol, "wow", that's neat, but if this helped you in anyway toss a thank post my way.
Hi it's been approximately 2 weeks since I received this battery. I can mostly say great things about this battery. Lets take a look at this monster, before I can say battery stats this, battery stats that.
I often Google how the extended batteries are "huge". I've SEEN extended batteries, none like Mugen though. Most of them are bigger, this thing really uses the word "Extended". First thoughts make me feel like this makes the phone x2 the original thickness. it feels hefty in the hand, and this makes for a constant reminder that the phone is in your pocket. I cant forget that this brick is in my pocket, but it makes it all that much more dramatic when it hits the concrete.....
I can say now having this battery installed on my phone is more than just extra juice, it makes for extra grip with this large backing. I'm sure a lot of people probably don't have extended batteries, so I'll just side-by-side a series of pictures so you can see.... how big it is.
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Now that you see what it looks like, I'll give you my apparent opinion, its big... and there's more to that than just being big! (Or at least with "our" phones.)
This phone has one of the only biometric scanners that I know of, but it becomes somewhat a hassle with Motorola's choice battery location. Its not something I fret about, considering I don't use the finger scanner. I have tried it with this battery, it makes it awkward to use but not impossible.
Docks, another thing this phone was craftily shelved as. The phone with the @ss loads of docks, more than others, non with this battery will it fit... All of these normal Motorola docks are 'ment for the phone with the stock battery. When you want to dock the phone often, you pretty-much need to keep the stock battery and its back plate.
Cases as we know it are plenty and many far from few with this phone. I've seen more than a dozen cases with this phone. But I have yet to see a battery this "great", there is the problem. None of cases will fit with the Mugen battery! But this isn't a problem with me, I often battery pull from rom flashing anyways.
Lets get to the battery stats, and how it plays with a couple ROMS!... But 1 problem remains, I cannot get the android OS to condition the stats into it. So it majorically says 1% of the poor battery's life. With the extended battery, dont trust all of the OS stats, they dont depict full time ORRR accurate time.
CM7-Beta, Faux 1.3Ghz.
With my current setup on the OEM battery.
On Battery 9Hr:45Min
Voice calls 56% 3Hr:57Min
Phone Idle 18% 8Hr:57Min
Display: 16% 55Min
Mobi.mgeek.tunnybrowser 4% CPU/Total 42Min/9Min
Cell Standby 9Hr:42Min
CM7-Beta, Faux 1.3Ghz. (Mugen 4800Mah)
This setup like before but only the mugen battery changed here. The battery life off this battery makes it so I can shoot higher than 50+ hours, with my current use time. Calibration of the battery is not as easy as "Battery Calibration" when I used, it only shows 1% for most the time.... I could have sworn after this, I get better battery yet as I have tried this method.
Charge, turn off, pull battery, charge, pull battery, charge, untill the battery is surely full. Now from 4.206v down to 3.615v as we talk im currently trying to charge while on from 3.600~ maybe getting correct battery stats.
On Battery 59Hour~ (aprx, hard without OS giving correct stats.)
Voice Calls 44% 6Hr:43Min
Phone Idle 22% 22Hr:8Min
Display 20% 2Hr:33Min
Cell Standby 5% 1Day:1Hr:41Min
There was a screen shot for 57hours unplugged, but it continued till 59hours and shut off. It still does the 1% stats. from full battery, wipe stats, till here.
Later I want to try Froyo based roms, and see if I can break these records. (on froyo I got 6+hours of talk time, with bluetooth.) that's pretty good IMO. Mainly, just so I can see for myself.
Now for my conclusion....?
The phone is great on battery, if you let it. The battery gives more than double life! I like it, and all of it's size battery, and capacity! It just might be easier to give pros/cons.
Pros:
Lots of battery life, more than double
No annoying battery swapping
Size/Weight to those who like it
Cons:
Size/Weight to those who hate it.
Finger scanner hard to access
cases no longer fit it
I love this battery, and it's completely replaced all my oem batteries. No longer shall I battery swap. Besides how can you work a weekend or more and not use a charger.... Whilst usage like mine or better? You cant, only with Mugen's battery! You need one, more than need, you want one! I'll update with calibrated stats, vs max charge and drain to 1%-0%?
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Ill compare stats vs OEM and this battery (Calibrated) But I'll try this with running netflix as a constant. Be patient, wont be long from now.
lol mother of god.. it's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's...
That thing is ****ing huge, lol.
This could come in handy for long road trips. Does it come with an external charger?
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Eddie Bombay said:
lol mother of god.. it's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's...
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Awesome? Yes!
rdubyah said:
That thing is ****ing huge, lol.
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Well what do you think? 4800Mah, doesn't that SOUND huge?
s1mpd1ddy said:
This could come in handy for long road trips. Does it come with an external charger?
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No but I'd suggest
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BH5X-Batter...376966?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a65952786
And for those who wanna know, ebay batteries are (from china) are garbage. I've owned alot of them, they lose capacity quickly and become buggy.
And if you dont believe me, try this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Atrix-4G...408011?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3368ab978b
I bet for less than 5 months of swapping batteries, and when their back plates break... Less capacity, and then become nothing more than mere paper weights, (should they not explode) cruddy batteries. Remember, cheap batteries off eBay are usually not rated for their "quoted" Mah! My 2800Mah battery from eBay lasted almost twice as long for about 1-2 weeks. Then no longer, about equal to original after a month. (And I purchased 4 of them) and 2 of them I had to return 2 of them because they DID NOT CHARGE. Now if you were planning eBay batteries, and wanted to make sure you had a weekend away from the charger, don't rely on eBay batteries from Chinese outfits making 90% profit off their less than 1$ production/labor costs.
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Care to share?
jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Yer, that's about the life of my stock battery too, though for hiking trips etc imagine the uptime I'd get with an extended one (-:
This 4800mah seems to be the perfect battery for all the problems I was facing with the original motorola battery. But after seeing an youtube video and some images about it...whoooowww!!! This battery is really large. The Atrix becomes a really large and heavy phone.
Because of that, this is really not a good battery for daily use. I think it could be a good solution if you are going camping without electricity nearby for a whole weekend and then you need an extra battery. Otherwise i think it is really not a good solution.
My choice was this pack: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220799408011?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
I'll keep using my original motorola battery and if needed I still have 2 x 3500 mah batteries (they also need special cover) plus a battery charger. They are smaller than 4800mha but even though larger than the original one. The price was really good and I'm totally satisfied with it.
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Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Well when you see those battery stats, whats your talk time? It looked like you idled forever, and what rom/kernel/etc are you running. That would makes a big difference, Froyo(stock) vs alien faux 1.3 can differ battery greatly.
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Well when you see those battery stats, whats your talk time? It looked like you idled forever, and what rom/kernel/etc are you running. That would makes a big difference, Froyo(stock) vs alien faux 1.3 can differ battery greatly.
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Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha thats huge
Will it fit in the car dock with this battery? just kidding - I think I know the answer to that!
Reference to the 3500mAh batteries, I bought one just like that from Deals Extreme, after a few charge cycles it gave me a consistent uptime of a bit less than the stock battery, for the price they are good spare batteries, but having to put a large back cover on for less performance than a stock battery really sucks for everyday life, I'd spend the extra to get another stock battery if you need one for everyday.
As for battery life, I'm running stock ROM, just rooted, search around this forum, lots of threads about getting 2-3x the uptime from a stock battery.
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Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Not bad at all! What settings/rom are you using? I would love to get that much out of my battery as well.
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Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Alot of my phone usage is random webbing and I use dolphin browser for full desktop loading.
I love this compared to own battery. But ill flash a stock rom.and try this
What is the point man that thing is ugly!
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man, and i though i was going to see a battery with vtec yo!!
lol sorry, i saw mugen and honda came to mind. that thing is like retro. turns ur dual core monster into a saved by the bell gray phone monster. funny how both phones are motorolas. :S
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Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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jgc121 said:
Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Near full of GSM coverage and just few hours of screen on ("Screen on" is near always OFF) is not what you have wrote us.
- A lot of texting with Screen off? You are God!
- 45min of watching video on netflix with Screen off? You are more than God!
- three hours of race game with Screen off?.......
Summary: (theorical) 3 hours of talk (much of GSM), 45 min videos (sound+screen), 3 hours of game (sound+screen), 1 hour (total) of texting over 3 days (GSM+display): 5 hours of "Screen ON" over 72 hours are more then you 3-4% if you try to sum the "ticks" of "Screen on".
Theorically every 10-12 hours the battery is automatically drained of about 10% even if the phone is in Airplane mode and with 200Mhz of clock (with SetCPU), so in 72 hours the battery should be less then 50% (I suppose 30%) even in Airplane mode.
You screenshot is fake.
I have the 3200mAh Li_poly Extended Battery for Sony Ericsson Xperia X10
I've had it for about 7 months or so and it's awesomeness.
On my x10a 2.3.3gb 0.3gb Xrecovery
-----Do Not Charge new Battery first just use it normally right out of the box.----
--------------------Read how to recharge to 100% 4211mV below-----------------------------------------
My Battery Stats Li-poly 3200mAh 4211mV 91.4/33.0c at 100%.
Temp does not change until it's below 10ish% Battery but I have never seen it above 93F an only when I'm gaming at 10% Battery. My old Battery would get up to 104f at 100% Battery on some game/video play
No heat problems it stays at 91.4 even when I play some cpu/power hungry games.
Everything is on all the time cpu at preformance/3gH+/wifi/gps/sync/weather widgets/live wallpaper/auto display.
( My best time 2ds.15hrs.27ms that was down to 2% battery).
But the norm it about 2 days ish that is while playing.
Games
Music/videos
News/videos
sms mms/pics
Calls
Surfing/web/app Markets
You know just the usual stuff.
I can even watch 2 Netflix movies on 3gh+ an only use 30ish% of the battery with everything on.
------------------Don't use any battery apps to Calibrate.---------------------------------
( I've tryed them all, they just screw things up and they will not charge to 4211mV)
just use the phone until it's down to 1% then recharge it to 100%. It takes about 4.5 to 5 hours.
( you can let the phone turn it self off if you want but is not necessary.)
If you notice that it doesn't last as long as it did, then do this.
---------Try apps below to check charge and voltage--
The only reason you have to do this is because your phone has a battery test minimum of 70% that's why you get readings like 65 to 93% after recharging this way.
To get it to 4211mV again try (the way) below.
(Not Necessary Way but if it makes you feel better)
Charge your phone to 100%.
1a.(In Xrecovery, go to Advanced options/Wipe Battery Stats.
2a.Take the battery out. ( wait 2 or 3 seconds)
3a.Plug in charger to phone.
4a.With charger plugged in to phone ( and phone Off ) Put the Battery back in.
Then use this below from then on.
(The Way)
1.Charge your phone to 100%.
2.Unplug charger.
3.Turn off the phone.
4.Take the battery out. ( wait 2 or 3 seconds )
5.Plug in charger to phone.
6.With charger plugged in to phone ( and phone Off ) Put the Battery back in.
7.Phone will boot up in Charge mode With only the battery animation.
8.When that battery animation goes out you can power up the phone.
9.Once the phone boots up, you will notice that the battery percentage is around 65 to 93% instead of 100%.
10. Charge the phone back up to 100%. (in doesn't take very long to 100%)
(03/12/12 Update) I don't seem to have to do this below anymore) It will charge to 100%/4211mV in about 4.5ish hours.
11. You can repeat this until it's at 100% as many times as you need.
(I only have to do it once to get it to 100% 4211mV)
I have had this Battery for about 7 months and I only have to do this maybe once a month if that.
I've used both these apps for more then a year and a half an they both are small an have worked great. And their alot better then the stock "idiot light" like you get in a cheap car. lol
They both do a'heck allot more then just check battery stats.
OS Monitor by eolwral for free: this is an awesome app for free I'd pay 2 or 3 bucks for it an you'll see what I mean if you try it to.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor
SystemPanel App / Task Manager by NextApp, Inc. there's one for free but I use the paid versions which help support the Developers and more options:
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwyLDEsIm5leHRhcHAuc3lzdGVtcGFuZWwucjEiXQ..
If you turn them on at boot their in the notification pull down and status bar real nice.
I got my Battery from Ebay for like 12$usa delivered from Hong Kong in 9-days
From soowhoob2010
"FYI"
You can use a small light tooth file to clean the two openings because they are real small, They are on the left side, That is on all the covers.
It doubled the sound on my stock cover so I did it on the new one an glued some speaker cloth on the in side to keep it clean. Works an looks great.
To use your old battery with the new back plate just find a spacer pretty much anything will work of the same size as new battery.
extended battery for xperia x10
sir can you please tell how many hours this battery lasts if we put brightness to full and watch hd movies or play hd games continually and what about web browsing time.
great guide. i've been using this battery for a long time too (i switched from stock battery about 1 month in, i found it incredibly annoying having to conserve my battery). Anyhow here's my battery life. (Everytime i turned it on was to play a bit of little empire)
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If i'm not on Wifi the phone only drops to about 80% after a day.
Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries can be damaged by charging and holding them at 100% charge, which is why phones are designed to "bleed off" to 90-95% even while plugged in and charging.
Bypassing this safety system can ruin your batteries and potentially your phone if there is a leak. Continually forcing the phone to re-calibrate in this fashion can bypass this system.
Just a friendly warning.
jekostas said:
Li-Ion and Li-Poly batteries can be damaged by charging and holding them at 100% charge, which is why phones are designed to "bleed off" to 90-95% even while plugged in and charging.
Bypassing this safety system can ruin your batteries and potentially your phone if there is a leak. Continually forcing the phone to re-calibrate in this fashion can bypass this system.
Just a friendly warning.
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+1
and you get rebooting issue all the time even at 100%.
and after that,buy a new one
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heh I wanted this battery too, but then i got a new phone
wow!! impressive for 12bucks!!
when i see deals like this i usually feel something suspicious, but this sounds like very interesting and worth testing!!
Bought this.
So far seems to be working great!
And I really don't mind the bulk since I have long fingers
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Using the same voltage bump i used for my optimization guide.
Well done.
Just got one of ebay, its 3600mah and really working great, followed your advice for charging. The back cover is a good quality with rubberish feeling (like the stock one) and fits nicely. Its also harder to get it off compaired with the stock one. I will buy a 2nd one as i'm going on a big trip. I tried other fake batteries before with the same MAH like the stock one and they were crap. I can recommend this bulky battery to everyone who's looking for some extra battery time.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280870827415?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Elaba said:
Just got one of ebay, its 3600mah and really working great, followed your advice for charging. The back cover is a good quality with rubberish feeling (like the stock one) and fits nicely. Its also harder to get it off compaired with the stock one. I will buy a 2nd one as i'm going on a big trip. I tried other fake batteries before with the same MAH like the stock one and they were crap. I can recommend this bulky battery to everyone who's looking for some extra battery time.
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Interesting.
The 3200 one I got got all plastic back cover. At lease my white version.
Might try this black one too!
Picture someone?
Can anyone post a picture of the x10 with this cover? Is it really big?
2300 mAh battery for xperia x10i
Yes it becomes 5mm thicker than the existing one. I don't know about the backup time. you can google it
Goods... i like this.
Thanks for the little review, I was looking for accessories like this one to improve the greatness of my phone
I got the same looking battery but with 3600mah. Have been using it about 2 months. I can tell it lasts more then double then my original battery. For example, i use my phone mainly for mp3 player at my work. Listening dayly around 8 hours at a volume of 80%. With about 1hour of internet usage. At night it goes in flightmode and lasts around 3 days like this. My original battery needed to be charged every day at 35% left. I already bought a 2nd battery, will come in handy on traveling. I got used having a thicker and heavier phone, but its really worth the extra battery life. The rear cover feels good and strong.
btw, my data connection and wifi are managed with juicedefender and go on and off every hour.
Hi,
I also got the extended battery and love it.
My issue is that I want a cover that can fit the phone......any suggestions.
Thanks.
very interested in one of these, i found same battery but i need white cover.
can anyone post some photos of the xperia with this new thicker cover on?
armstrong12 said:
Hi,
I also got the extended battery and love it.
My issue is that I want a cover that can fit the phone......any suggestions.
Thanks.
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I haven't seen any seperate back covers for extended batteries for sale, i guess you need to buy them in a combo with the battery.
If i have the time i'll try to post up some pictures of mine.
hey guys,
So I got both of this big boys and decided to do a side by side comparison. I can tell you both are very good batteries ..both do their job and for the price gap between them the difference is not substantial .
If you are still undecided which battery to pick, this review might help u
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0fGu9X2g4&list=UUYgF4PNrTj7Sfw3YTJGO9xg&index=1&feature=plcp
Great review TY.
Bought my innocell 3800 about 4 weeks ago and love it.
Price is a bit steep, but nfc compatible and super long lasting.
Average use I get 36-40 hours (nonstop LTE). And heavy use about 25-30 hours (nonstop LTE)
Again thanks for the review
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Glad it helped you!. your times are similar as mine. I think its a good investment ..but I cant use extended batteries all the time. I like to retain the thin profile..Man i even hate cases but Im too stupid to not have one because I drop phones like crazy lol
I'v tried Seidio innocell and its pretty good
here is what i got from it
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would love to try out the Mugen battery
Thank you so much for the video review! I always hated extended batteries because of how it made the phone look, but I think the mugen battery cover doesn't look bad at all. I think it's because how it looks at the end/bottom of the phone (doesn't protrude out as much).
I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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Drakkula4 said:
I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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I try to go from full charge to like 10 or 5 percent however work and school dont let me do that everyday. so little charges here and there happen all the time . But at night if im low i let it charge
nope I didnt get that issue at all..But what i found with every single extended is that the first full charge is INSANE ..its so good that creates an standard..I dont know why lol but after that its been steady.
What rom are you on? And do you have any battery mods?
I'm on arhd 4.0.1 with the circles mod.
You think that could have anything to do with it?
I'll post back in a couple days after the battery wipe and full charge. Maybe my battery mod is throwing it off.
Thanks again for the info
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Drakkula4 said:
What rom are you on? And do you have any battery mods?
I'm on arhd 4.0.1 with the circles mod.
You think that could have anything to do with it?
I'll post back in a couple days after the battery wipe and full charge. Maybe my battery mod is throwing it off.
Thanks again for the info
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I'm running aokp milestone 5,. No battery mods at all
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So apex launcher was causing misreads on my battery somehow and was draining it slightly more than stock launcher. Now back to stock launcher with circles battery mod and getting 1 day and 16-18 hours
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Drakkula4 said:
So apex launcher was causing misreads on my battery somehow and was draining it slightly more than stock launcher. Now back to stock launcher with circles battery mod and getting 1 day and 16-18 hours
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nice! I hate how some little things can screw things up
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
So how about you buy both those batteries and buy 2 galaxy nexuses and do a review yourself? Then provide us your input on what you have found.
I do agree that the person left out an important part but he did do a battery review. Any information is appreciated and physical features can make or break a persons decision on a product even if it isn't important to you. I for one will thank the reviewer on his input between those batteries and leave negative comments out the window.
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Jiia said:
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
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What about this..why dont u pay attention to the part that I say " if you want to see the power of each one..please check its independent videos..as I cant do the comparison in one video for that because It will last 15 minutes
Jiia said:
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSyOJ02LJs&feature=plcp
Drakkula4 said:
I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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I think the charging pattern is not really relevant when it comes to li-ion batteries...what is important is to make the phone understand that there is new capacity used. These hi-end batteries last for 400-500 recharges so I think that if you get less battery life, you should just re-calibrate it.
Mugen btw has a user-guide with calibration process described there http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/user-guide It's a no-brainer for a generic user, but it does it's job. Just I don't think it's good for your battery if you do it often...
Hey currently on cm10 (wild for the night) and usually after flashing a new custom rom I like to try and squeeze as much battery life as i can by calibrating my battery with the playstore root version....has worked other times, but now charge hits a blue light at round 90 and i have to leave it going another while till 100? should i run it completely out to nothing & then re-calibrate, or reset battery stats for recovery??
Thanks...
Resetting battery stats is like saying abracadabra and hocus pocus, it does nothing for the battery. Android automatically wipes the battery stats every time the charge reaches 100%. Li-ion batteries should be recharged between 10 and 20% letting them go completely dead is bad for their health. If you have more than one but dont swap them out often the one you're not using should be stored with a charge between 50-80%. For optimum health try to charge a little bit at a time thru out the day to prevent the battery from reaching 0% but dont charge it of its between 80 and 100% and once it reaches 100% dont leave it on the charger for a long period of time. Charging over night when you start with a low battery is ok since it wont be at 100% the entire time and the charging circuit will prevent it from pver charging. Also try to keep your batteries temperature below 120°F if it gets over 120°F remove it from the device for 15-30 minutes and allow it to cool and when you replace it don't go right back to running itz temperature up, let the device idle and the battery have some time to recoup. The 2 worst things you can do to a battery is improper charging(let it die or charge it when its over 80% still) and high temperatures. If you're having trouble with it holding a charge give it a spin test, take it out and spin it on a flat surface of it spins like a top it's time to replace it as the cells have begun to swell from heat damage. If it only spins 1/4-1/2 a turn or doesn't spin but has trouble holding a decent charge all its not bloating but could still have cell damage and you should take it to a repair center and have it tested (it's free) if the battery is over 12 months old or has been charged close to 500x it's best to replace it before the bloating begins.
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That was a good read Evil, thanks. I have a friend with a totally stock (un-rooted) epic 4g touch (Sprint). I just sent him a screenshot of your post, he charges his phone, & like if the phone shuts off or reboots his battery drops significantly. Sometimes he says it shows 0%. He sent me this, any explanation, TIA,
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Battery's bloated. Tell him to take it out and spin it on a table, I'd bet my left nut it spins like a top.
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Hey currently on cm10 (wild for the night) and usually after flashing a new custom rom I like to try and squeeze as much battery life as i can by calibrating my battery with the playstore root version....has worked other times, but now charge hits a blue light at round 90 and i have to leave it going another while till 100? should i run it completely out to nothing & then re-calibrate, or reset battery stats for recovery??
Thanks...
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AOSP roms... all i've been on has got blue light when they hit 90%. when calibrating i always start from 100 and run down to 10%ish and repeat and battery seems calibrated
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Battery's bloated. Tell him to take it out and spin it on a table, I'd bet my left nut it spins like a top.
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You were right, he thought I was trying to make him do something stupid, but he was like, holy s*#t, it does spin like a top. Thanks, oh, is that from over charging & whatnot?
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aheeejd said:
You were right, he thought I was trying to make him do something stupid, but he was like, holy s*#t, it does spin like a top. Thanks, oh, is that from over charging & whatnot?
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Heat and age. Samsung crammed an extra 300mah worth of cells into a 1500mah housing by cutting the cell walls down to the bare minimum allowed and after a while of heat and charging the chemicals inside start to expand. The walls crack and the chemicals mix which causes a reaction then the battery swells cuz theres nowhere for the expanding gasses to escape to until the outter structure gives way and the battery ruptures causing any number of outcomes from a chemical leak to a small explosion.
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aheeejd said:
You were right, he thought I was trying to make him do something stupid, but he was like, holy s*#t, it does spin like a top. Thanks, oh, is that from over charging & whatnot?
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Since he needs a new battery, for aftermarket brands I'd recommend anker or hyperion in that order. He could get 2 anker batterys and an external wall charger for about half what samsung charges for the oem battery. Then he can charge one on external wall charger and swap it out to charge the other and effectively double the life of the batteries and never need to plug his phone in. The batteries stay healthier charging on an external as there's no added heat from using the device while its charging. Amazon has both brands of batteries for about $20 for 2 + charger the ankers are labled and listed as 1800mah but are actually 1950mah just make sure if he has an epic touch to search by model# sph-d710 some of the other s2 variants pins are lined up differently.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Heat and age. Samsung crammed an extra 300mah worth of cells into a 1500mah housing by cutting the cell walls down to the bare minimum allowed and after a while of heat and charging the chemicals inside start to expand. The walls crack and the chemicals mix which causes a reaction then the battery swells cuz theres nowhere for the expanding gasses to escape to until the outter structure gives way and the battery ruptures causing any number of outcomes from a chemical leak to a small explosion.
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Since he needs a new battery, for aftermarket brands I'd recommend anker or hyperion in that order. He could get 2 anker batterys and an external wall charger for about half what samsung charges for the oem battery. Then he can charge one on external wall charger and swap it out to charge the other and effectively double the life of the batteries and never need to plug his phone in. The batteries stay healthier charging on an external as there's no added heat from using the device while its charging. Amazon has both brands of batteries for about $20 for 2 + charger the ankers are labled and listed as 1800mah but are actually 1950mah just make sure if he has an epic touch to search by model# sph-d710 some of the other s2 variants pins are lined up differently.
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Yes..I see yer point, Ok normally im not a chargeaholic but i could dial it down a notch. the battery on spins on one side, other side nada...Are the results still the same for me??
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Yes..I see yer point, Ok normally im not a chargeaholic but i could dial it down a notch. the battery on spins on one side, other side nada...Are the results still the same for me??
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Should be flat on both sides.
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There is no charging issue. You should see a blue led for 90 to 100 and a purple led for 0 to 15. The charging indicators are different on cm10 from touchwiz but the battery percentage should still bee accurate.
LordFan21 said:
There is no charging issue. You should see a blue led for 90 to 100 and a purple led for 0 to 15. The charging indicators are different on cm10 from touchwiz but the battery percentage should still bee accurate.
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If you would have taken the time to read, you would know that it has all been figured out.
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Holy sh¡t EK, is there anything you don't know? Self defense, batteries.. are you an android yourself?
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MicrosoftBug said:
Holy sh¡t EK, is there anything you don't know? Self defense, batteries.. are you an android yourself?
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I am an android.... I was an alpha that went rogue
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MicrosoftBug said:
Holy sh¡t EK, is there anything you don't know? Self defense, batteries.. are you an android yourself?
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I read alot, always have. Weapons, electronics & software, watches, vehicles and medical and criminal justice stuff is mostly what I read. Most of the males in my family were military I grew up learning self defense since I could walk. I'm a curious person so I research anything that catches my attention.
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