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Atrix Mugen 4800Mah Review (56k/dail up death)

Please let me say, I failed english. Probably all that time I skipped english probably would have served me well....Had I attended, so be gentle on this guy. If this made you laugh, lol, "wow", that's neat, but if this helped you in anyway toss a thank post my way.
Hi it's been approximately 2 weeks since I received this battery. I can mostly say great things about this battery. Lets take a look at this monster, before I can say battery stats this, battery stats that.
I often Google how the extended batteries are "huge". I've SEEN extended batteries, none like Mugen though. Most of them are bigger, this thing really uses the word "Extended". First thoughts make me feel like this makes the phone x2 the original thickness. it feels hefty in the hand, and this makes for a constant reminder that the phone is in your pocket. I cant forget that this brick is in my pocket, but it makes it all that much more dramatic when it hits the concrete.....
I can say now having this battery installed on my phone is more than just extra juice, it makes for extra grip with this large backing. I'm sure a lot of people probably don't have extended batteries, so I'll just side-by-side a series of pictures so you can see.... how big it is.
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Now that you see what it looks like, I'll give you my apparent opinion, its big... and there's more to that than just being big! (Or at least with "our" phones.)
This phone has one of the only biometric scanners that I know of, but it becomes somewhat a hassle with Motorola's choice battery location. Its not something I fret about, considering I don't use the finger scanner. I have tried it with this battery, it makes it awkward to use but not impossible.
Docks, another thing this phone was craftily shelved as. The phone with the @ss loads of docks, more than others, non with this battery will it fit... All of these normal Motorola docks are 'ment for the phone with the stock battery. When you want to dock the phone often, you pretty-much need to keep the stock battery and its back plate.
Cases as we know it are plenty and many far from few with this phone. I've seen more than a dozen cases with this phone. But I have yet to see a battery this "great", there is the problem. None of cases will fit with the Mugen battery! But this isn't a problem with me, I often battery pull from rom flashing anyways.
Lets get to the battery stats, and how it plays with a couple ROMS!... But 1 problem remains, I cannot get the android OS to condition the stats into it. So it majorically says 1% of the poor battery's life. With the extended battery, dont trust all of the OS stats, they dont depict full time ORRR accurate time.
CM7-Beta, Faux 1.3Ghz.
With my current setup on the OEM battery.
On Battery 9Hr:45Min
Voice calls 56% 3Hr:57Min
Phone Idle 18% 8Hr:57Min
Display: 16% 55Min
Mobi.mgeek.tunnybrowser 4% CPU/Total 42Min/9Min
Cell Standby 9Hr:42Min
CM7-Beta, Faux 1.3Ghz. (Mugen 4800Mah)
This setup like before but only the mugen battery changed here. The battery life off this battery makes it so I can shoot higher than 50+ hours, with my current use time. Calibration of the battery is not as easy as "Battery Calibration" when I used, it only shows 1% for most the time.... I could have sworn after this, I get better battery yet as I have tried this method.
Charge, turn off, pull battery, charge, pull battery, charge, untill the battery is surely full. Now from 4.206v down to 3.615v as we talk im currently trying to charge while on from 3.600~ maybe getting correct battery stats.
On Battery 59Hour~ (aprx, hard without OS giving correct stats.)
Voice Calls 44% 6Hr:43Min
Phone Idle 22% 22Hr:8Min
Display 20% 2Hr:33Min
Cell Standby 5% 1Day:1Hr:41Min
There was a screen shot for 57hours unplugged, but it continued till 59hours and shut off. It still does the 1% stats. from full battery, wipe stats, till here.
Later I want to try Froyo based roms, and see if I can break these records. (on froyo I got 6+hours of talk time, with bluetooth.) that's pretty good IMO. Mainly, just so I can see for myself.
Now for my conclusion....?
The phone is great on battery, if you let it. The battery gives more than double life! I like it, and all of it's size battery, and capacity! It just might be easier to give pros/cons.
Pros:
Lots of battery life, more than double
No annoying battery swapping
Size/Weight to those who like it
Cons:
Size/Weight to those who hate it.
Finger scanner hard to access
cases no longer fit it
I love this battery, and it's completely replaced all my oem batteries. No longer shall I battery swap. Besides how can you work a weekend or more and not use a charger.... Whilst usage like mine or better? You cant, only with Mugen's battery! You need one, more than need, you want one! I'll update with calibrated stats, vs max charge and drain to 1%-0%?

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Ill compare stats vs OEM and this battery (Calibrated) But I'll try this with running netflix as a constant. Be patient, wont be long from now.

lol mother of god.. it's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's...

That thing is ****ing huge, lol.

This could come in handy for long road trips. Does it come with an external charger?
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Mugen battery, my review
Eddie Bombay said:
lol mother of god.. it's a bird.. it's a plane.. it's...
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Awesome? Yes!
rdubyah said:
That thing is ****ing huge, lol.
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Well what do you think? 4800Mah, doesn't that SOUND huge?
s1mpd1ddy said:
This could come in handy for long road trips. Does it come with an external charger?
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No but I'd suggest
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BH5X-Batter...376966?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a65952786
And for those who wanna know, ebay batteries are (from china) are garbage. I've owned alot of them, they lose capacity quickly and become buggy.
And if you dont believe me, try this...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Atrix-4G...408011?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3368ab978b
I bet for less than 5 months of swapping batteries, and when their back plates break... Less capacity, and then become nothing more than mere paper weights, (should they not explode) cruddy batteries. Remember, cheap batteries off eBay are usually not rated for their "quoted" Mah! My 2800Mah battery from eBay lasted almost twice as long for about 1-2 weeks. Then no longer, about equal to original after a month. (And I purchased 4 of them) and 2 of them I had to return 2 of them because they DID NOT CHARGE. Now if you were planning eBay batteries, and wanted to make sure you had a weekend away from the charger, don't rely on eBay batteries from Chinese outfits making 90% profit off their less than 1$ production/labor costs.

Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Care to share?

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Yer, that's about the life of my stock battery too, though for hiking trips etc imagine the uptime I'd get with an extended one (-:

This 4800mah seems to be the perfect battery for all the problems I was facing with the original motorola battery. But after seeing an youtube video and some images about it...whoooowww!!! This battery is really large. The Atrix becomes a really large and heavy phone.
Because of that, this is really not a good battery for daily use. I think it could be a good solution if you are going camping without electricity nearby for a whole weekend and then you need an extra battery. Otherwise i think it is really not a good solution.
My choice was this pack: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220799408011?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
I'll keep using my original motorola battery and if needed I still have 2 x 3500 mah batteries (they also need special cover) plus a battery charger. They are smaller than 4800mha but even though larger than the original one. The price was really good and I'm totally satisfied with it.

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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Well when you see those battery stats, whats your talk time? It looked like you idled forever, and what rom/kernel/etc are you running. That would makes a big difference, Froyo(stock) vs alien faux 1.3 can differ battery greatly.

Ciloteille said:
Well when you see those battery stats, whats your talk time? It looked like you idled forever, and what rom/kernel/etc are you running. That would makes a big difference, Froyo(stock) vs alien faux 1.3 can differ battery greatly.
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Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha thats huge

Will it fit in the car dock with this battery? just kidding - I think I know the answer to that!

Reference to the 3500mAh batteries, I bought one just like that from Deals Extreme, after a few charge cycles it gave me a consistent uptime of a bit less than the stock battery, for the price they are good spare batteries, but having to put a large back cover on for less performance than a stock battery really sucks for everyday life, I'd spend the extra to get another stock battery if you need one for everyday.
As for battery life, I'm running stock ROM, just rooted, search around this forum, lots of threads about getting 2-3x the uptime from a stock battery.

jgc121 said:
Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Not bad at all! What settings/rom are you using? I would love to get that much out of my battery as well.

jgc121 said:
Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Alot of my phone usage is random webbing and I use dolphin browser for full desktop loading.
I love this compared to own battery. But ill flash a stock rom.and try this

What is the point man that thing is ugly!
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man, and i though i was going to see a battery with vtec yo!!
lol sorry, i saw mugen and honda came to mind. that thing is like retro. turns ur dual core monster into a saved by the bell gray phone monster. funny how both phones are motorolas. :S

jgc121 said:
Forget extended batteries... This is what i get on AVERAGE with my STOCK battery.... proper calibration is absolutely CRITICAL.
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jgc121 said:
Talk time was several hours. Lots and lots of texting going on. About 45 mins of netflix. about three hours of the drag racing game. 10 mins or so of browsing. It looks like it was idle forever because thats over the course of 3 days.
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Near full of GSM coverage and just few hours of screen on ("Screen on" is near always OFF) is not what you have wrote us.
- A lot of texting with Screen off? You are God!
- 45min of watching video on netflix with Screen off? You are more than God!
- three hours of race game with Screen off?.......
Summary: (theorical) 3 hours of talk (much of GSM), 45 min videos (sound+screen), 3 hours of game (sound+screen), 1 hour (total) of texting over 3 days (GSM+display): 5 hours of "Screen ON" over 72 hours are more then you 3-4% if you try to sum the "ticks" of "Screen on".
Theorically every 10-12 hours the battery is automatically drained of about 10% even if the phone is in Airplane mode and with 200Mhz of clock (with SetCPU), so in 72 hours the battery should be less then 50% (I suppose 30%) even in Airplane mode.
You screenshot is fake.

[BATTERY REVIEW]Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh Lithium Ion "Fat Phone"

Just checking the post box and lo and behold my Cameron sino 2200 MAh battery had finally arrived from England.
It looks like the real deal but only testing will tell.
I purchased in from this Ebay shop.
They delivered it via Royal Postal Service and considering it is the Christmas season it took 14 days instead of the usual 8. Not bad.
The battery and shipping cost me around $22.00 US.
It's charging right now on my universal charger so I still have the use of my phone but I did take some initial photos of the difference in the case size, battery, etc, to post.
My initial response was...whoa! Big! It's exactly twice the depth of the OEM battery.
The back case of of a smoother plastic and not as "grippy" as the original. It's well made and fits perfectly.
The battery itself it a surprisingly tight fit. At first I thought I had gotten the wrong size but it finally popped into place and sits snug in the case.
In hand it feels different of course. Only with some use will I be able to really tell if it's a benefit or a detriment to have a case that size in hand. I have big hands so it might actually end up nice. Some swyping and other activities will tell and I will report of this when I do.
I did a test of the camera with the inset camera and flash holes and there are no blackout spots in the pictures, nor do they suffer in quality as a result of the case.
I had a theory that this case would be provide more bass by acting as a passive subwoofer cavity and indeed it does although I tested it with the standard battery installed. With less cavity space with the CSI battery installed it should fall somewhere in the middle.
One of the things I noticed is increased low end response was created with a sacrifice in overall volume which makes sense. Will report further once battery is charged and there is a little less cavity space inside the casing.
Below are some pics of the batteries, phone profile, etc.
I will follow up with usage test results once it's charged and in the phone.
Battery charged fully after a couple of hours as it was already pre-charged for a bit. On the phone and Battery Monitor base battery profile created. Will find out the true mAh once I deplete and recharge it once.
I hope it will be a day or two before I report in on this.
EDIT: Update
As I would have bloody well hoped, this battery does extend the life of the Wildfire S by quite a bit. Still trying hard to wear it down here by playing some games, coming up with a new tutorial, some recording of me playing guitar with 4 Track Pro, etc.
No solid stats yet but I will have after a drain and recharge or two.
Battery stays at a cool 25-26 degrees centigrade in operation and was cool to the touch while fast charging on the universal wall charger initially. I''ll provide charge while in use stats in short while.
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11:10 pm and this thing is still charging. It's a lot of juice to squeeze in I guess. Waiting patiently and then I will post the charging profile screen shot from Battery Monitor.
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12:00 pm and the battery is now showing full. Removed battery stats file and doing a complete drain. During charging while using the battery next jumped above 26.5 degrees centigrade. 10 degrees cooler than the stock battery.
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2:00 pm and the battery is at 85 percent with moderate usage. Didn't get to sleep until 5:00 am and was up at 11:00 am checking mail etc.
I have to say that compared with the other WFS with the standard battery I REALLY like the feel of this double sized one in the hand. I find it easier for Swyping and general use. It just feels substantial and cups in the palm of your hand in a way that the shallow case doesn't.
EDIT:
The battery is still going strong. Used it heavily last night doing backups and playing Words With Friends online, tapatalk, gmail etc. for a long while. Had a mega text session with a cute girl.
Just after 3:30 PM on day two. Battery finally powered down after a heavy use phase for the last 10% for a total runtime on the first full charge of 40 hours.
Way cooler than the stock battery. Never got warm to the touch. Clocked in at 26.5 C at it's highest temp.
Apparently they even out and get even more capacity after a charge or two so if I get this up to 48 hours with moderate to heavy usage I'm thinking Phat is the new Thin! ;-)
FINAL UPDATE:
Battery charged over 7 hours while under a heavy load playing games.
All in all I've gotten used to the size, love the amount of power and longevity I get, it stays cool, and the price was great.
Next up... Ecell gold 2430 mAh standard sized lithium polymer review.
Coming soon.
DS

it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.

m1ndh4x8r said:
it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.
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Hehe.
Yah it's not the smallest but I'm liking how it feels in the hand even though it's no longer a Zoolander cell.
So far I've been running it hard since 5 pm or so yesterday. NANDROID backups, restores, lots of web time, some games, FB, doing a bunch of root stuff to fix GPS and figure out WiFi issues. Sitting here with another couple of estimated hours left on it. Trying to run it dry for a calibration or two and it's taking a while to say the least.
It's like the weekend pill Cialis...You could call this thing the weekend battery.
I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.
Me <3 testing...

Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?
Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)
I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.

MoneyFist said:
Hey bud. What was your usual 100 to 0% time on the stock battery?
Mine was usually just over 11hours.
With the CS battery 1day14hours (gets better after more cycles)
(note that leaving a phone on standby over night is going to drain less than a working day.)
I'm interested in knowing how you get on with that Gold 2430.
I dont expect it to beat the 2200mah CS but if it gives 25-50% more time over the stock battery with a standard formfactor then I'd be impressed.
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Mine was in around 16 to 20 hours based on my usage.
I'll give you the stats on this one after it runs dry. Down 10% over the last 13 hours so far.

d33ps1x said:
I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.
Me <3 testing...
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That's the test I'm more curious about. Anyway I thank you a lot for the review on the FAT battery. It's bigger so it should be better. As I already wrote on another thread I've had nice experiences with Cameron Sino batteries.
I'm curious about the Li-Polymer because the density and weight of the material are totally different. If that one approves I will buy one for sure.
Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac.

miguelca said:
Simply put I don't want to change the aesthetics of the phone to a Big Mac.
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ROFL. Nice.
As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.
I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.
Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating.
I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.
It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.

d33ps1x said:
ROFL. Nice.
As I said I like the Big Mac. But I do prefer a Quarter Pounder to be honest.
I figure I will keep two battery stats files and swap from the low profile to the big mac depending on usage needs.
Going to the bar or something, it would be nice to have the smaller phone in my pocket so it doesn't look like I'm over-compensating.
ROTFLMAO
I have read reviews on here where the 2430 clocks in around 1700. In my opinion for $20 that's a worthwhile upgrade to get nearly a third more batter life. Time and testing will tell though.
It shipped today. Hope to get it before Xmas.
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Good luck with the shipping time and with the batteries too.
If the Li-Polymer Gold battery only has about 1700mAH then it is pretty false advertising. My feedback would be pretty negative on eBay.
Sellers shouldn't be so greedy and announce values that are way above reality.
Anyway if 15.50€ gets me about 30-35% battery increase then I will probably buy one.
An original battery costs the double...
I will wait for your review before I decide because I really don't like ordering so near Christmas...
Thanks for your help mate.

No Problem. Up to 37 hours with moderate to heavy usage now.
Final update. 40 hours on first charge.

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No Problem. Up to 37 hours with moderate to heavy usage now.
Final update. 40 hours on first charge.
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This means that on the 3rd or 4th complete charge cycles you will probably get a few more hours. Just follow the battery maker's instructions and I guess that 45 hours of moderate usage will be possible. That's quite an achievement!
Even if it's a Big Mac, for work purposes that wouldn't be a problem.

I'm charging my battery every day...This is too big to my little WFS

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I'm charging my battery every day...This is too big to my little WFS
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I concur...

Awesome post, might get one of the 2430mah ones if it's moderately better than this one.

Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.

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Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.
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Cameron Sino still takes their business very seriously. That's great!

OP, can you come back after a few weeks using this battery, and do a 2nd review to see how it's lasting?
I only ask because I tried a similar 3500mah extended battery, which was amazing for the first few days, but after a week or two it started losing it's charge realy quickly.
40 hours use from a single charge seems awesome, but I don't wanna go spending on another battery until it's withstood the test of time

No problem. I'll put it in my Calendar.

Awesome, can't wait for the results

Nice testing,we shall se if we have new battery champ for our nice wfs

Amazing Replacement Batteries!!! 2~ days with 1 charge

I've never heard of this brand before, but man, these batteries are amazing. From day one, I've never had great battery with my EVO, usually dead by 6pm from 7am unplug. Recently my orginal batteries stopped working. I would charge to 100%, and it would die in 5 minutes, so I had to go hunting for batteries.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1700mAh-Batteries-Incredible-Multi-purpose/dp/B0050MUSLY I personally vouch for these batteries. 200mAH difference seems small, and it might be, but these batteries last me almost 2 days, and is the same size as OEM batteries. Also very good price. I ordered the double because we have two evos in the house, but if you want just one then here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1700mAh-Battery-Multi-purpose-Charger/dp/B004KW5E8W
I HIGHLY recommend these, the battery was my biggest problem with the evo, and this just flat out ended that problem. I've had the batteries for about 2 weeks now, and still performing very well. I'm too lazy for screenshot, but right now it has been 12h 24m on battery, and I'm at 59 percent.
All in all, if you have battery problems, buy these.
BUY THEM!!!

Lots of batteries do well the first few days, and then lose capacity quickly after. Do another test next week and do a comparison, see if there is any drop off.
I noticed from your other threads that you used to have cyanogenmod, but had some issues and switched to a sense rom. Which one did you finally settle on?
I too had issues with aosp and after trying out over a dozen sense roms, I went back to cyanogenmod, spent some time with it, and finally solved all my problems.

It's still going strong after 2 weeks! But I will wait another week and report back. I ended up settling with Synergy Rls1 non-godmode with Lithid's Freedom-Agressive Kernel.

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It's still going strong after 2 weeks! But I will wait another week and report back. I ended up settling with Synergy Rls1 non-godmode with Lithid's Freedom-Agressive Kernel.
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Really 2 days on one charge?? I will be lucky to get 8 hrs with moderate use. Tempted to buy one!!

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Lots of batteries do well the first few days, and then lose capacity quickly after. Do another test next week and do a comparison, see if there is any drop off.
I noticed from your other threads that you used to have cyanogenmod, but had some issues and switched to a sense rom. Which one did you finally settle on?
I too had issues with aosp and after trying out over a dozen sense roms, I went back to cyanogenmod, spent some time with it, and finally solved all my problems.
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hmm thats odd. cyanogenmod is the only rom that doesn't work for me haha. im using miui at the moment and its is 100% perfect (at least the build im using) and i usually swap between decks, miui, and mikg. my phone just refuses to cooperate with cm even after many attempts at it...

how do this compare to the Sprints 2600mah battery. Looking to switch back to a slimmer battery.

I've never had a sprint 2600mAH so can't say anything, but this definitely outlasts the original battery by miles
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You are going to get at least a 10% bump in battery stamina simply by virtue of the fact that you are using a fully charged battery from the charger and not getting the fast initial 10% drop caused by HTC's charging algorithm. That being said, I also have these batteries and for the price and and extra mAh, they are great. Keep one in the charger and pop it in when you go to work and last all day.

have nothing to say about these batteries.. But I am subscribing to this thread to keep my on the discussion. I bought a 3500 gorilla gadget and i am kinda disappointing. It is not holding a charge like it used to (after only 4 months). So I may be due for a replacement. These sound interesting.

I wanna get a new battery, isnt there a 2150mah battery that is the same form factor as OEM batteries? I wanna grab one of those, im already getting an easy 2 days out of a charge, **** if I got a bigger battery id be able to go a week with light use.
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http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Extended-Li-Ion-Battery-RHOD170/dp/B002Y24MJ2
Thats the one im thinking of, though I thought there were some that were not li-ion.

I bought a cheap 3500 off of ebay has worked great for a year but now its starting to die i only paid seven bucks for it and the back but been thinking about dropping to a slimmer battery may have to check these out

Thanks for the tip...I need a new battery.

oOflyeyesOo said:
I wanna get a new battery, isnt there a 2150mah battery that is the same form factor as OEM batteries? I wanna grab one of those, im already getting an easy 2 days out of a charge, **** if I got a bigger battery id be able to go a week with light use.
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Thats the one im thinking of, though I thought there were some that were not li-ion.
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don't think those will fit into evo.

tang12 said:
don't think those will fit into evo.
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The battery will fit, however, you won't be able to get a stock battery door on over it. You'll have to find an extended battery door or duct tape it in place, lol.

Anyone have a link to a higher mah battery than stock but will fit own size and is road tested? Although the 4.67 update rocks, I still want a lil more juice.

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Anyone have a link to a higher mah battery than stock but will fit own size and is road tested? Although the 4.67 update rocks, I still want a lil more juice.
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the batteries the thread is originally about are 1700mAH and fit into evo with original door.

guitar jesus said:
Anyone have a link to a higher mah battery than stock but will fit own size and is road tested? Although the 4.67 update rocks, I still want a lil more juice.
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My weekend usage with the Anker 1700 mah battery really not doing much so don't think I was watching YouTube videos, playing games and talking on the phone much. Was a pretty laid back weekend and stayed on WiFi except a few quick trips to the supermarket but still, never had anything close to this battery life.
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Working a 12 hr. shift tonight into tomorrow morning which will be much more standard/heavy usage i.e. 4G, tethering, phone and texts. I'm going to leave this battery in and pocket a fully charged spare just in case. Will report how long the first lasted during standard usage on 3G and 4G.

aburgthing said:
My weekend usage with the Anker 1700 mah battery really not doing much so don't think I was watching YouTube videos, playing games and talking on the phone much. Was a pretty laid back weekend and stayed on WiFi except a few quick trips to the supermarket but still, never had anything close to this battery life.
Working a 12 hr. shift tonight into tomorrow morning which will be much more standard/heavy usage i.e. 4G, tethering, phone and texts. I'm going to leave this battery in and pocket a fully charged spare just in case. Will report how long the first lasted during standard usage on 3G and 4G.
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dangggg haha. The most ive gotten is like 2d 3hours, that's ridiculous lol. These do seem to reserve battery while relaxed MUCH better than original evo batteries.
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Well here you have it! I did my normal 12 hr. shift last night with several phone calls including a long one with Verizon technical support because our FIOS was offline at home last night. I have Gmail set to push, got and sent several text messages, about 15 app updates, Titanium Backup auto backup on and about 30 mins. of tethering my tablet over 4G. With the stock battery I was constantly plugging in to bump the charge throughout the night. I have not touched a charger in 3 days!
To to OP, Amazing is an understatement! If anyone is considering a battery replacement look no further because these are surely the best investment I've ever made for my Evo! Of course YMMV but if the below doesn't convince you I don't know what will.
Get them today for $13.00!!!!! I swear I'm not a spokesman but these are so good and I'm so happy with them I've just got to share with the people I've learned and gotten so much from here on XDA.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0050MUSLY/ref=cm_cr_mts_prod_img

That's pretty amazing battery life. I think I may have to try this out. Thanks for the info.

Mugen 4000 vs Innocell 3500 video Review

hey guys,
So I got both of this big boys and decided to do a side by side comparison. I can tell you both are very good batteries ..both do their job and for the price gap between them the difference is not substantial .
If you are still undecided which battery to pick, this review might help u
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0fGu9X2g4&list=UUYgF4PNrTj7Sfw3YTJGO9xg&index=1&feature=plcp

Great review TY.
Bought my innocell 3800 about 4 weeks ago and love it.
Price is a bit steep, but nfc compatible and super long lasting.
Average use I get 36-40 hours (nonstop LTE). And heavy use about 25-30 hours (nonstop LTE)
Again thanks for the review
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Glad it helped you!. your times are similar as mine. I think its a good investment ..but I cant use extended batteries all the time. I like to retain the thin profile..Man i even hate cases but Im too stupid to not have one because I drop phones like crazy lol

I'v tried Seidio innocell and its pretty good
here is what i got from it
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would love to try out the Mugen battery

Thank you so much for the video review! I always hated extended batteries because of how it made the phone look, but I think the mugen battery cover doesn't look bad at all. I think it's because how it looks at the end/bottom of the phone (doesn't protrude out as much).

I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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Drakkula4 said:
I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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I try to go from full charge to like 10 or 5 percent however work and school dont let me do that everyday. so little charges here and there happen all the time . But at night if im low i let it charge
nope I didnt get that issue at all..But what i found with every single extended is that the first full charge is INSANE ..its so good that creates an standard..I dont know why lol but after that its been steady.

What rom are you on? And do you have any battery mods?
I'm on arhd 4.0.1 with the circles mod.
You think that could have anything to do with it?
I'll post back in a couple days after the battery wipe and full charge. Maybe my battery mod is throwing it off.
Thanks again for the info
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What rom are you on? And do you have any battery mods?
I'm on arhd 4.0.1 with the circles mod.
You think that could have anything to do with it?
I'll post back in a couple days after the battery wipe and full charge. Maybe my battery mod is throwing it off.
Thanks again for the info
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I'm running aokp milestone 5,. No battery mods at all
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So apex launcher was causing misreads on my battery somehow and was draining it slightly more than stock launcher. Now back to stock launcher with circles battery mod and getting 1 day and 16-18 hours
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Drakkula4 said:
So apex launcher was causing misreads on my battery somehow and was draining it slightly more than stock launcher. Now back to stock launcher with circles battery mod and getting 1 day and 16-18 hours
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nice! I hate how some little things can screw things up

Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.

So how about you buy both those batteries and buy 2 galaxy nexuses and do a review yourself? Then provide us your input on what you have found.
I do agree that the person left out an important part but he did do a battery review. Any information is appreciated and physical features can make or break a persons decision on a product even if it isn't important to you. I for one will thank the reviewer on his input between those batteries and leave negative comments out the window.
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Jiia said:
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
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What about this..why dont u pay attention to the part that I say " if you want to see the power of each one..please check its independent videos..as I cant do the comparison in one video for that because It will last 15 minutes

Jiia said:
Wow, this review didn't help at all. When buying a battery the most important factor is how long it lasts. The mAH values reported by the manufacturers are meaningless so battery reviews are there to test how long they really last. This video review was nothing else than just a comparison between the back covers provided with the batteries.
Next time charge both of the batteries and then do a heavy usage test with them. A regular heavy usage test would cosist of running an internet stream video on constant brightness. That way pretty much everything is being used: screen, radio and processor. Then have both phones running the same video in a loop until they run out of battery and see how long they last.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSyOJ02LJs&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmSyOJ02LJs&feature=plcp

Drakkula4 said:
I felt the same way at the beginning, had to go back to my original nexus with that amazing curve every so often.
But after a while the extended battery just grew on me. Especially with just the skin tight case.
I did notice tho that now I seem to be getting a bit less battery life especially after a bit heavier usage.
Ill try battery status wipe in cwm and do another 2 rounds of full charge to discharge.
How do you go about your charging patterns?
Do you -
1 - full charge to discharge every time?
2 - full charge to to half and back to full?
3 - full charge to x% back to full?
And has your battery life been dropping slowly? I.e. getting less hours per charge.
As it stands now it seems to have lost roughly 3-4 hours after the same usage as when I first got the battery.
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I think the charging pattern is not really relevant when it comes to li-ion batteries...what is important is to make the phone understand that there is new capacity used. These hi-end batteries last for 400-500 recharges so I think that if you get less battery life, you should just re-calibrate it.
Mugen btw has a user-guide with calibration process described there http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/user-guide It's a no-brainer for a generic user, but it does it's job. Just I don't think it's good for your battery if you do it often...

No lemon slim battery

Just got my no lemon slim battery works for the active. Got 2 batteries and charger for 19.99
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Just got my no lemon slim battery works for the active. Got 2 batteries and charger for 19.99
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Nice!:good: I've seen some good reviews for zerolemon batteries. I want to eventually buy some myself. I heard the zerolemon charger takes ages to charge the battery though but the batteries themselves are solid.

It charges it quick its a 3000 mh battery and slim no bulky case
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ah that's good to hear

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It charges it quick its a 3000 mh battery and slim no bulky case
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let us know if you get extra juice with it, other 3000 mah batteries with no size change seem to be equal or less in my experience.

Works good get about 20 hrs
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That is for S4, not S4 Active, I assume the two batteries are different .

The S4 (GS4) and the S4 Active (GS4A) share the same battery, thankfully: 2600 mAh stock, same size, specs, everything. I got a brand new one from Samsung just a few days ago (used that 50% coupon code they offered me when I registered my GS4A) and here's shots of the packaging:

you ewesters
br0adband said:
The S4 (GS4) and the S4 Active (GS4A) share the same battery, thankfully: 2600 mAh stock, same size, specs, everything. I got a brand new one from Samsung just a few days ago (used that 50% coupon code they offered me when I registered my GS4A) and here's shots of the packaging:
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Could you please share the link? I'm interested in getting one.
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That is for S4, not S4 Active, I assume the two batteries are different .
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2 batteries are same, actually most parts are same, or else the cost would be much higher for Samsung.

shamima said:
Could you please share the link? I'm interested in getting one.
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2 batteries are same, actually most parts are same, or else the cost would be much higher for Samsung.
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This may or may not be the link:
http://www.amazon.com/warranty-Zero..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1385492577&sr=1-4
boss336 said:
Just got my no lemon slim battery works for the active. Got 2 batteries and charger for 19.99
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I've seen some (S4, I think) reviews that say that the battery is a bit thicker than the original one and, that the back cover bulges a bit. Does this happen with the S4 Active as well? Having more betteries sounds nice but, I don't really want to have my water resistant phone become less resistant because of the battery.

boss336 said:
It charges it quick its a 3000 mh battery and slim no bulky case
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when you say "no bulky case", I assume you're using your stock back cover. Can you answer the question below?
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This may or may not be the link:
http://www.amazon.com/warranty-Zero..._1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1385492577&sr=1-4
I've seen some (S4, I think) reviews that say that the battery is a bit thicker than the original one and, that the back cover bulges a bit. Does this happen with the S4 Active as well? Having more betteries sounds nice but, I don't really want to have my water resistant phone become less resistant because of the battery.
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it will fit the zerolemon on active?
.i want to buy the zerolemon battery 3000 mah (no nfc) for s4 but i want to know if it will fit on s4 active i537 insite the gasket because the s4 active is water resistance (ip67) i want to know if the dimencions of the stock battery is the same one with zerolemon 3000 mah because i dont want to lose the water resistance.....

antonisalien said:
.i want to buy the zerolemon battery 3000 mah (no nfc) for s4 but i want to know if it will fit on s4 active i537 insite the gasket because the s4 active is water resistance (ip67) i want to know if the dimencions of the stock battery is the same one with zerolemon 3000 mah because i dont want to lose the water resistance.....
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I will let you know of the results when mine arrive within the next week or so, but they are *meant* to be the same size.

tiskael said:
I will let you know of the results when mine arrive within the next week or so, but they are *meant* to be the same size.
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any news ?

mazuno said:
any news ?
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Yes, they actually got delivered yesterday but the instructions say to charged them for 12 hours before use for optimal performance. I just put them in so no I can't make comment on battery life as of yet.
The packing was all quite nice/professional and the batteries feel solid. The postage also came well within estimated time frame.
Are they bigger than the Samsung batteries (in physical size)? Yes, they are noticeably thicker if you put the batteries end to end by maybe a millimetre. Would this compromise your water-seal? I can't say for sure, but I would not risk dunking the device in a bath tub while it has a zero-lemon in it.
I will do a better review tomorrow after some proper use.

tiskael said:
Yes, they actually got delivered yesterday but the instructions say to charged them for 12 hours before use for optimal performance. I just put them in so no I can't make comment on battery life as of yet.
The packing was all quite nice/professional and the batteries feel solid. The postage also came well within estimated time frame.
Are they bigger than the Samsung batteries (in physical size)? Yes, they are noticeably thicker if you put the batteries end to end by maybe a millimetre. Would this compromise your water-seal? I can't say for sure, but I would not risk dunking the device in a bath tub while it has a zero-lemon in it.
I will do a better review tomorrow after some proper use.
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ok great thanks for sharing this. I ordered mine last week since my original samsung battery is dead.. Can't wait to receive them..

Zero Lemon 3000mah Galaxy S4 Active Review
mazuno said:
ok great thanks for sharing this. I ordered mine last week since my original samsung battery is dead.. Can't wait to receive them..
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I will get to the water-resistance first and then move onto other aspects in this review as I think that's what most people are concerned about.
I did several tests, but the ultimate outcome is that the zerolemon does compromise the seal. I put the bottom of the phone in a bowl of water for about 5 seconds with a samsung battery and then for 30 seconds, neither time did the seal break. I then did the same with the zero lemon. After 5 seconds, it appeared to be solid. After 30 seconds, the water had flowed in. I only put the bottom of the phone in as there is essentially little to worry about getting wet there. I would not expect the phone to survive being dropped in a pool or bathtub with a zero-lemon. Maybe a sink or toilet bowl if rescued quickly.
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As for battery life, it makes me through a full day of heavy use. While using samsung batteries, I would carry around a spare with me but I feel I wont need to do that anymore. This is still a very good option if you don't feel like sacrificing your water resistance or NFC. YOU WILL LOSE NFC. Zero lemon is able to give you that extra 400mah of power by removing NFC. This is fine for me, because NFC hasn't really been utilised in Australia by mobile phones yet, but with the expected release of Google Wallet here in the near future, I'll be keeping my Samsung batteries nearby. This leads me onto how I expect to use my batteries:
I think I will be using my zero-lemon while mostly on (long) day trips for work or fun around the city. I can carry the spare around if I think I may need to, but I doubt it. I also feel there would be less water hazards as compared to at home. At home, I will be using the samsung batteries as I feel I'm far more likely to get the phone wet at home where there are sinks, bathtubs, toilets, buckets of water, etc. I can also switch out on of my now four batteries at any time without having to carry it on me. I think the zero-lemons will become spares once NFC takes off in Australia, assuming I still have the S4A at that point.
The "worlds fastest charger" takes the same amount of time to charge a zero lemon battery as the samsung charger does to charge the samsung battery. This does mean that the charger is a fair amount faster. I haven't tested how long it takes to charge a samsung battery in the "worlds fastest charger" as I don't want to damage the samsung batteries and I am of the belief that the batteries actually limit the charge speed if you're not using an official Samsung charger(?).
One last thing about the batteries. If you look on the bottom of your Samsung batteries, there are little point bits that I assume are there purely to hold the battery in place. The Zero Lemon's are missing these, but the battery is already a very tight fit anyway, but it could be something to keep in mind.
If there's anything else you think I've forgotten, then let me know and I'll edit it in.

thx for your replies!!!! god blessed you

I also received my zerolemon batteries a couple of days ago. I have to say that they work really great and they hold charge a significant bit longer than the original samsung battery. i have now more than a normal usage day.
But it is then true that they are a bit bigger and there is now a small gap in the back cover, under the speaker, where water could sneak in if the phone were immerged.. which is not so cool
Regarding the wall charger I couldnt say much since I live in Europe and it is designed for US wall power points... I might aswell get my hands on an adapter.. no hurry anyway.
all in all they are really good batteries.
cheers

hi would that battery fit the i9295 variant?
i have an S4 active i9295 and was considering buying an original s4 battery but wasn't sure if it would fit my phone,can anyone verify?