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Since you've had the Arc for a while now...are you happy with it or do you regret it?

Now that its been out a bit do you still love the Arc or wish you bought something else?
I am getting my new phone tomorrow finally, going to stomp into Rogers and pick it up cash...but I am still STILL stuck : /
I am trying to decide between the Xperia Arc, Xperia Play, and Nexus S...
So you guys still happy with the Arc? I am leaning towards the Arc the most but don't want another x10 mistake : (
Thanks

Happy, happy, happy.
Don't regret it at all, only thing I find annoying is the massive amount of Bloatware... but that could easily be sorted out if I wasn't just too lazy to work myself through the root thread.

That depends? What kind of phone did you have before? And make sure you update to2.3.3 or you wont be happy
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That depends? What kind of phone did you have before? And make sure you update to3.3.3 or you wont be happy
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Samsung Captivate.
Oh I should say that I plan on keeping the device stock.

I have the Arc since the beginning of May and I'm really happy with my Arc.

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Samsung Captivate.
Oh I should say that I plan on keeping the device stock.
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I had the Captivate before. Still like it more than the arc. Loved the feel of the device, felt solid (the arc feels cheap at first since it way lighter and the back cover is made of plastic) and of course, the S-AMOLED is beautiful, no matter what some fanboys here have to say.
Still, the arc is a performing device, a sexy one at that and very comfortable to use. The Exmor camera is sick and the screen displays real, beautiful colors.
By the way, Rogers apparently announced they will have the Infuse 4G so you might want to add that device on your list.
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Not another thread ...

I'm still happy with my arc. It is still the best branded android phone in the market in my point of view.
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Not another thread ...
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Oh I am sorry, you don't like threads on a forum? LMFAO
Anyways other than the asshat I quoted, THANK YOU for all the input and insight guys. I have a day to think about this still but you've helped a lot, so thank you

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Samsung Captivate.
Oh I should say that I plan on keeping the device stock.
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That is fine keep it stock rooting and you may brick your phone! But you should look and make sure that you will be happy look on you tube and see what is out there? If your looking for battery life look into htc sensation or galaxy s 2
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I come from an iPhone 2 ( yep the first one ) and LOVE my ARC. I have fun playing with all the apps, moding the themes, it's sexy, looks nioce, works well.

I love the Arc. Haven't regretted it for one second. Still I can't compare to the other devices. For me it's fast, the screen is beautiful. I can't get enough of it.
First few days the battery didn't last long but now I easily get through the day.

Love my Arc. Also before the 2.3.3 update. ;-)
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Totally great phone. In almost every aspect.

Seeing as I swapped a samsung galaxy s for my arc I'm very pleased with it ;-)
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I'm still very happy with my Arc. Now that we have custom kernels and the work on cm7 really has begun, it gets even better. I admit the battery cover isnt the best out there (very glitchy, fingerprint magnet, sometimes squeaks), but thats about it. It's snappy, it's beauitiful, except the battery cover well made, it has a gorgeous screen...

I'll chip in; very happy with the Arc. In my work I get to play with everything O2 sells and what did it for me with the Arc is the blend of it looking and feeling very smart to use, having a great camera and Sony Ericsson's committment to supporting it and keeping it up to date.
Back to back with the Galaxy S II, the Arc is less responsive, but has fewer battery chewing bugs*. Realistically**, the S II's biggest advantage over the Arc isn't the processor or internal RAM, but the onboard storage, meaning users don't need to buy a memory card for 12 Gb or so of space for media.
*in my experience and readers may vary.
**I know, I know, I'm a geek by trade but I'd get bored of justifying the S II by talking about dual core processors and 800+ Mb of program memory...

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I'll chip in; very happy with the Arc. In my work I get to play with everything O2 sells and what did it for me with the Arc is the blend of it looking and feeling very smart to use, having a great camera and Sony Ericsson's committment to supporting it and keeping it up to date.
Back to back with the Galaxy S II, the Arc is less responsive, but has fewer battery chewing bugs*. Realistically**, the S II's biggest advantage over the Arc isn't the processor or internal RAM, but the onboard storage, meaning users don't need to buy a memory card for 12 Gb or so of space for media.
*in my experience and readers may vary.
**I know, I know, I'm a geek by trade but I'd get bored of justifying the S II by talking about dual core processors and 800+ Mb of program memory...
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nice commentary.

had the arc sins launch. and i love it.... nuff said
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aint the s2 dual core just too 500 cores? it aint 2 1ghz cores is it??
and is there really any point in dual core? are any of the apps even coded to make use of 2 cores?
if i right now had to choose the arc or s2 damn its a hard one..... on paper...... it would have to be the s2............ but there so so close the only way to really pick is to have a proper play around with them.....
there both around the same price 500 pound so go in the shop and tell them you would like to see and have a good play with both phones 500 pound is alot of money for a phone make sure you pick the right one for you
ps..... watch for the back of the s2 ( bat cover its proper crap) its about as thick as a hair

Admitted SE loyalist who was persuaded to stay on board after X10 debacle by SE's new found commitment to upgrade more expeditiously.
Bought Arc at launch in NA and am very happy with the device in all respects.

is this a good smartphone?

hey guys, i came from optimus 2x thread and my phone is getting old, i'm thinking to buy this phone, for people who have this phone already what can you say or what is your experienced? is this device can handle USB OTG in the future? what about the battery life specially in heavy gaming/usage? -----sorry for my bad english

What mobile carrier are you on? The zl is an amazing phone. I came from the note 2 which was also quad core and I feel this phone to be more speedy than the note 2 was. Benchmarks higher too. And compared to the g2x the battery life is a lot better from that. I can say that the battery is not ad good as my note 2 though.
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Z or ZL?
I am coming from an Arc S and I'm just wondering if this phone would support mods coming from the Z where the forums is a lot more active; just like how Neo and Ray gets mods from Arc S...
I am still torn between the two, but overall I think both phones would be a good buy

JRBT24 said:
I am coming from an Arc S and I'm just wondering if this phone would support mods coming from the Z where the forums is a lot more active; just like how Neo and Ray gets mods from Arc S...
I am still torn between the two, but overall I think both phones would be a good buy
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Well from my past phone, I guess it was depend on what kind of mod it is, Roms of course wont work I wouldnt think, But themes and such might be the same.

AW: is this a good smartphone?
I'm using 2x as well atm, and I most likely will get the ZL soon. It was hard to choose between Z, ZL, HTC one and S4, but I think this one is the most beautiful and useful phone for me, although SoC isn't at Top anymore. I don't care of benchmarks, I need a mature phone and not some kiddy playtoy like samsung or htc. Thats what I think after weeks of thinking which phone it could be...
Don't want to offend anyone, just my 2 cents.

i think more people will go to sony ZL, sony Z is only special because of its water and dust resistant feature but other than that ZL is more attractive by its design and specially the IR remote
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Xperia S or Nexus 4

I bought my Xperia S last year in May, and unfortunately I'm very upset with the phone, the design is very good but battery cover started moving in 3 months after that soft touch on the battery cover became glossy and not soft anymore,I had to buy one from Amazon, now looks as new. As for the phone it's very laggy, luckily I don't have any yellow tint or other problems with the phone, the major problem is dust coming through camera hole and touch buttons at the bottom sometimes lag. So I want to get rid of SONY Products once and for all, I don't even wont the new Xperia Z, because I know that it will disappoint me soon, I had almost 20 Sony Ericsson Phones including X10 and Arc, and I got disappointed in all of them, I was thinking of HTC one X+ but in the end I understood that there is nothing special in it, the best choice for performance and style would be Nexus 4, because it has great CPU, GPU, Design, Camera, it's the best phone for it's price. And if someone has an opinion about this please feel free to comment. I'll appreciate your help!!! :cyclops:

If you want an opinion... at least ask for a realistic challenge!
Nexus 4 is comparable to Xperia Z, Galaxy S3... not with Xperia S.
It is completely ridiculous to compare a model from 2013 with one from 2012, doesn't make any sense.

nrdl said:
If you want an opinion... at least ask for a realistic challenge!
Nexus 4 is comparable to Xperia Z, Galaxy S3... not with Xperia S.
It is completely ridiculous to compare a model from 2013 with one from 2012, doesn't make any sense.
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Xperia z is the only one of those phones thats from 2013 haha.....
Anyways... Nexus 4! Theres not even a debate. Aosp, great specs, gigantic dev community, haha I wish I had One.
Unless lte is a deal breaker of course.
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Nexus 4 is the best phone in Android developers community:
Not expensive, good specs, lots of resources!:good::good::good:
I really wish N4 is available in my region:crying:

Get the Nexus 4... Its not available officially in India and unofficial (online store) price is too much.... I would have bought it if it was available here.
Nexus 4 is better in almost every way compared to XS. Every tech site gave it a high score..

FanDroid09 said:
Xperia z is the only one of those phones thats from 2013 haha.....
Anyways... Nexus 4! Theres not even a debate. Aosp, great specs, gigantic dev community, haha I wish I had One.
Unless lte is a deal breaker of course.
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I was obviously referring to S4...
But the rest remains...
For me the choice would also be Nexus 4

Thank you everyone for your opinions! I'll definitely go for Nexus 4 and forget SONY forever.

Go for nexus 4, but dont forget about sony forever
who knows maybe next will be sony nexus 5 or 6. :good:

Don't even go near the xperia s!
Look at what's happening with just jelly bean update.

Xperia s is worst my friend bought it 2 months ago now he wants to sell it I asked him the reason but he is always numb. Its led flash is not bright as compared to my sgs2. Nexus 4 is immortal. If you have few more thousands to spend go for htc butterfly or droid dna.
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Gor for Nexus 4!
I got fed up with this sony mobiles. My xperia s not yet completed 7 months. It already died. I got it from UK now i cannot get the replacement also. It was already went two times for service. What the F mobiles it is. My previous mobile motorola is way better than this one. Don't go for beauty Look for how much it worth for long life.

Yea, you are right, just waste of money, you buy Xperia S in two weeks comes out Xperia S something with almost same price but with better performance, this drives me crazy! In 2011 I bought Xperia Arc, and Arc S came out in 2 weeks without announcement and I had to live with it. Don't trust sony!!!

Dunno what's with you guys I've been a Sony user for the past 10 years and never had problems with em.I've had the x8 which was great and also the arc S (smart phone era). 4 months ago i bought the S and so far it has been rock solid.

Xperia S Rumors

Hey guys, I just need to ask you a few questions, because I`m not sure which phone to buy, this one or the galaxy s2. I`ve read on a few places that touch sensitive buttons on the xperia s are not quite responsive, that the battery drains quite fast and that there is not much available ram upon reboot. Can someone please confirm or decline these things, I would really appreciate it.

Brontok said:
Hey guys, I just need to ask you a few questions, because I`m not sure which phone to buy, this one or the galaxy s2. I`ve read on a few places that touch sensitive buttons on the xperia s are not quite responsive, that the battery drains quite fast and that there is not much available ram upon reboot. Can someone please confirm or decline these things, I would really appreciate it.
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You will get used to the touch sensitive button in a few days. My friends have had the S2 for a while and battery life is similar. Never heard about the RAM issue. Never faced it. BTW don't you think its a bit late to buy these devices? Buy an S3/XZ or Nexus device if you want a futureproof device.
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You will get used to the touch sensitive button in a few days. My friends have had the S2 for a while and battery life is similar. Never heard about the RAM issue. Never faced it. BTW don't you think its a bit late to buy these devices? Buy an S3/XZ or Nexus device if you want a futureproof device.
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Thanks for your reply. I know they`re a bit outdated but to be honest right now I can`t afford anything better. In fact I could but I`m a student, and I have many other costs. And for me the xperia s is a good phone for that particular amount of money. It can only be compared to S2. If someone has a suggestion please write it down, or write down your experiance with XS.

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Thanks for your reply. I know they`re a bit outdated but to be honest right now I can`t afford anything better. In fact I could but I`m a student, and I have many other costs. And for me the xperia s is a good phone for that particular amount of money. It can only be compared to S2. If someone has a suggestion please write it down, or write down your experiance with XS.
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Well, for the same budget u will get S3.. Or Iphone4s.. If u r going for used ones.. Not first hand.. Ofcourse u r going for used ones and i think Galaxy nexus is going to be good.. It will get a couple more generations of Google's work.. And thereare other good devices which are new with this price range to look.. I wouldnt buy this if i were u at this stage.. Even though my phone rocks, i would try to get a different and new device, since day by day this phone is gonna get obselete...
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Well, for the same budget u will get S3.. Or Iphone4s.. If u r going for used ones.. Not first hand.. Ofcourse u r going for used ones and i think Galaxy nexus is going to be good.. It will get a couple more generations of Google's work.. And thereare other good devices which are new with this price range to look.. I wouldnt buy this if i were u at this stage.. Even though my phone rocks, i would try to get a different and new device, since day by day this phone is gonna get obselete...
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Not really, in my country xperia s costs about 224 USD, and S3 is about 350 USD. It`s true that it will get obsolete but so will any other phone. I wanted to buy iphone 4s but I don`t know, it has only 512mb of ram, a 1.0 ghz cpu. and besides that the screen is only 3.5".

As for the RAM and the battery drain, I'd say it depends on the ROM you use. If you don't care about further updates not being released, I would go for the Xperia S. If not so, you should go for a Samsung Galaxy Nexus or a second hand Google Nexus 4, Samsung Galaxy S3 or a Sony Xperia T/V.
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As for the RAM and the battery drain, I'd say it depends on the ROM you use. If you don't care about further updates not being released, I would go for the Xperia S. If not so, you should go for a Samsung Galaxy Nexus or a second hand Google Nexus 4, Samsung Galaxy S3 or a Sony Xperia T/V.
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I don`t really care about further updates because I`m planing to buy a new phone in the future. At the moment s3 and nexus are to expensive. Xperia T has almost identical features, but as you said it`s newer than xs

Brontok said:
Hey guys, I just need to ask you a few questions, because I`m not sure which phone to buy, this one or the galaxy s2. I`ve read on a few places that touch sensitive buttons on the xperia s are not quite responsive, that the battery drains quite fast and that there is not much available ram upon reboot. Can someone please confirm or decline these things, I would really appreciate it.
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look my friend ,, about buttons yes its kinda not responsive if u put a screen protector but u will get used to it ,, i have xperia sl for a year now ,, about the battery according to ur use ,, i am lucky i guess with my 1.7 gh it never lag ,, but on the other hand it kinda got hot while playing (root solve this a little bit ) in the end go for xperia Z if u can or any new devices coz i guess support for this devices reached end

between XS and S2, i prefer XS. if you got other option, go for Nexus 4.

Which Quad/Dual Core device is the best?

Hi guys.. I am planning to sell my phone.. I am just confused on which phone to buy.. Xperia Z, Nexus 4, Xperia SP, Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, HTC One Mini, Sony Xperia Z1 Mini.. Or should i just go with iPhone 5?I can't afford to buy flagships.. Budget isn't that great, nor worst.. :silly: But any suggestions??

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Hi guys.. I am planning to sell my phone.. I am just confused on which phone to buy.. Xperia Z, Nexus 4, Xperia SP, Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, HTC One Mini, Sony Xperia Z1 Mini.. Or should i just go with iPhone 5?I can't afford to buy flagships.. Budget isn't that great, nor worst.. :silly: But any suggestions??
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Z1 mini is the best out of the above, but not the best price of course.
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monivan said:
Z1 mini is the best out of the above, but not the best price of course.
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Of course.. But since Z1 mini or Z1 S isn't out yet, lets omit it..

Lg optimus g (the at&t version) gives good bang for buck. I got mine for $180 on ebay. I miss my ions camera and sony launcher but this phone performs rather well.
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Lg optimus g (the at&t version) gives good bang for buck. I got mine for $180 on ebay. I miss my ions camera and sony launcher but this phone performs rather well.
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Carrier locked device? Hardly.. Coz i live in India.. Here none of the phones are carrier locked.. May be very few in the past.. But LG Optimus G looks pretty good, but s/w wise its pretty dull.. I mean UI and other stuff..
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Carrier locked device? Hardly.. Coz i live in India.. Here none of the phones are carrier locked.. May be very few in the past.. But LG Optimus G looks pretty good, but s/w wise its pretty dull.. I mean UI and other stuff..
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I actually bought 2 of these, one for my mom and one for me. Mine was carrier locked and the unlock code costed me $2, my moms phone came already unlocked from the seller. I'm using mine in honduras (central america).Sure, UI is not as great as sony's but there are a few roms out there with stock lg UI as well as 4.3 and 4.4 roms. I'm using nocturnal rom(discontinued unfortunately) which is stock LG UI with the sony walkman, movies and gallery app. I like some of the LG tricks though like qslide(which lets you keep watching a video and use the phone's other functions) and quicknote. Unlocking the bootloader was easy with freegee(downloaded it from play store).

My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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I would have loved to get a z or zl, but the steep $400 plus pricetag for it was waaaaaay above my budget.
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My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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Yes so have i thought about getting it.. Since it has official cm support and it will have the same for 3 mpre years atleast because of the h/w.. And devs like niaboc79, zeroimfinity and others make it look like a cool phone.. And also its within my budget.. So probably it is the one.. On other hand, i am thinking of Nexus4.. :/
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Yes so have i thought about getting it.. Since it has official cm support and it will have the same for 3 mpre years atleast because of the h/w.. And devs like niaboc79, zeroimfinity and others make it look like a cool phone.. And also its within my budget.. So probably it is the one.. On other hand, i am thinking of Nexus4.. :/
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Why Nexus 4 and not the Nexus 5? I think the Nexus 5 would be the best device for you if it fits your price. Otherwise wait for the Moto G, it's getting launched in India in January 2014. Both these devices are the best value for money you can get.

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exzibit7 said:
Why Nexus 4 and not the Nexus 5? I think the Nexus 5 would be the best device for you if it fits your price. Otherwise wait for the Moto G, it's getting launched in India in January 2014. Both these devices are the best value for money you can get.
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Nexus devices are boring UI.. I agree they are the best devices in the market.. But what's a Smartphone without some cool stock features.. I would definitely miss Sony's UI, Media apps and Camera.. And obviously music quality.. And also the look of the phone.. Although u can get all kinds of MODs, but they never are the same.. Xperia Z suits all my needs.. Its waterproof, quad core and 2gb ram, official support for 1 more year atleast, official cm support, official cwm support, lots of awesome devs, mods and cool features the phone exclusively provides.. U don't need anything else for another 2 years.. That's an awesome device.. Although on the other hand, Nexus 4 is cheap and good quality device.. Nexus 5 also is worth buying.. But i may have to skip Nexus and just go with Xperia Z..

its depend on what you looking for on the phone ,, i would suggest HTC one .. or Nexus 5
but if you gonna replace your phone why not to save more money and keep the Xperia S for another months and get a High level phone ,, like Z1 or G2

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its depend on what you looking for on the phone ,, i would suggest HTC one .. or Nexus 5
but if you gonna replace your phone why not to save more money and keep the Xperia S for another months and get a High level phone ,, like Z1 or G2
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I would stick with XS and buy a decent flagship a couple years later. Seriously, the only thing that is very different with the XS and the Galaxy S4 my girl uses is the battery life. XS is the same fast in UI as the S4, has comparable camera performance and in only very heavy 3D games you can see a difference. I don't mind the bigger screen, newer android edition, IR and the slimmer form factor at all. But S4 has roughly TWICE the battery life. 4.4.2 on GS4 is much less stable than on XS, with random reboots.
Don't mind if there are more roms for other phones. Our roms might be few in numbers but are all good.

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I would stick with XS and buy a decent flagship a couple years later. Seriously, the only thing that is very different with the XS and the Galaxy S4 my girl uses is the battery life. XS is the same fast in UI as the S4, has comparable camera performance and in only very heavy 3D games you can see a difference. I don't mind the bigger screen, newer android edition, IR and the slimmer form factor at all. But S4 has roughly TWICE the battery life. 4.4.2 on GS4 is much less stable than on XS, with random reboots.
Don't mind if there are more roms for other phones. Our roms might be few in numbers but are all good.
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On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.

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On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.
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Well, 4G is not available in greece either, and according to what I read, it kills the battery, while hspa is already fast enough. I don't see much difference between 4.1 and 4.3 anyways, apart from lockscreen widgets. You are right about multitasking, though in XS it kills useless apps first.
S4 has 780 mb free ram. Our CM11 will evetually get stable too. Just my points.

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On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.
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No no.. What i meant was OEM specific features are my favourite.. Stock SONY is what i love the most.. I mentioned CM support because after your 2years company support ends, atleast you will have some support from development.. That's why i mentioned.. About CM11, its the only ROM i tested after eXistenZ.. Not into much testing lately, got bigger plans.. Building one myself..

lordoftheriffs said:
Well, 4G is not available in greece either, and according to what I read, it kills the battery, while hspa is already fast enough. I don't see much difference between 4.1 and 4.3 anyways, apart from lockscreen widgets. You are right about multitasking, though in XS it kills useless apps first.
S4 has 780 mb free ram. Our CM11 will evetually get stable too. Just my points.
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It seriously only has 780 MB RAM free of the initial 2GB? I know free RAM is wasted RAM, but that's just sad. This is why I never recommend Samsung.
There are some differences under the hood between 4.1 and 4.3, like Bluetooth 4.0 support (uses a lot less battery) and OpenGL. Our CM11 will get kind of stable, I'm just going to install it now by the way, but the available amount of RAM will just keep shrinking as Rayman needs to assign more for every new version of Android it seems (has to do with ION and no proper drivers, if less RAM is assigned it'll bootloop).
And about 4G, it depends on the frequency, but if the 800MHz band is used, 4G should use less power than 3G. In my country it's still only the 1800MHz band though.

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It seriously only has 780 MB RAM free of the initial 2GB? I know free RAM is wasted RAM, but that's just sad. This is why I never recommend Samsung.
There are some differences under the hood between 4.1 and 4.3, like Bluetooth 4.0 support (uses a lot less battery) and OpenGL. Our CM11 will get kind of stable, I'm just going to install it now by the way, but the available amount of RAM will just keep shrinking as Rayman needs to assign more for every new version of Android it seems (has to do with ION and no proper drivers, if less RAM is assigned it'll bootloop).
And about 4G, it depends on the frequency, but if the 800MHz band is used, 4G should use less power than 3G. In my country it's still only the 1800MHz band though.
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Yes.. I agree.. but 4g not yet so popular in India.. its only for rich people.. Even 3g plans are costly around here.. The only thing stopping me from thinking of buying Xperia Z is its already an year old. Another year and its completely gone.. It s gonna be a dead phone without sony support and probably devs would leave that phone and get some new one by that time.. It will be same like having Xperia S now.. Very few devs are here working for our device.. Its gonna be the same there too..
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