hi there:
i have 2 general questions about radio updates...
1) is a radio update - 2.15.x, for example - a software update or a firmware update? like, did i flash my radio so that all my roms are affected? or, is only the rom i applied it to affected?
2) does a radio update - 2.15.x, for example - affect all radios in my phone? like bluetooth? or just my cellular radio?
i'm asking because i can no longer get my dinc to connect to my bluetooth, no matter which rom i'm on. i'm trying to pin it down, and the timing seems about right to when i flashed 2.15. even my stock 2.1 rom won't connect anymore. i guess it could be something else, but the radio seems a likely culprit.
thanks!
1. It is neither...it is a radio update
2. It affects only the baseband, or cellular radio...bluetooth has something to do with the bluez plugin, which is updated in the android versions
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1. Technically, it's a firmware update, so yes, all of your ROMs are affected. ROM flashing has nothing to do with the radio.
2. The radio update affects baseband version, which has an effect on cell network connection/quality. Bluetooth, Wifi, etc, are all handled by the kernel, which is part of Android, not the radio. Think of the radio as a completely separate OS running outside of Android.
thx for the replies, guys. it's what i expected, although i was hoping i was wrong. dang, what's messin' with my bluetooth? dang...
Hi I have a simple question, some people on Google + suggested me to reflash only the stock radio because I really have some problems in Canada to have signals on 4.2.2 roms. The stock radio was running on 4.1.1, is there any risk ? On stock I was reaching -95 signal for 4G (HSPA +) easely now I cant even have 1 bar.
Flashing news ROMs doesn't flash a new radio. But to directly answer the question: yes, you can flash whatever radio you want (as long as it is for your phone model).
Aerowinder said:
Flashing news ROMs doesn't flash a new radio. But to directly answer the question: yes, you can flash whatever radio you want (as long as it is for your phone model).
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This is right what I was thinking, so i'm assuming that 4.2.2 get the same signal force but the icon isn't representative. It make sense. Thank you !
For some reason, every time I try to install a sense based rom, it never boots.
I'm fairly new to flashing, and have flashed 4 or 5 aosp roms. Every time I install one of those, it always works correctly, no issues.
I have tried to flash several Sense based roms, such as ARHD 20.1, Insert Coin, and nv, and each time, it never works. I always do a factory wipe beforehand as well as a wipe in the aroma installer. It will go thru the process and install, and then prompt me to reboot, which it does. Once the screen comes back onm however, it just hangs on the white htc screen with the red development text. When i get back to the hboot, itll show nothing for os.
I thought the issue may be that i dont have the latest firmware, but even people that dont have the latest firmware still are able to boot into the rom. Also, I just tried the NV rom which is based off my firmware, and it still gives me the same trouble. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
I'm running an ATT Htc One m8, rooted, unlocked, s-off with sunshine, twrp recovery
mattprice86 said:
I thought the issue may be that i dont have the latest firmware, but even people that dont have the latest firmware still are able to boot into the rom.
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Give the ROMs about 10 minutes, and I bet they will boot. The extremely long boot time, and lack of boot animation (another symptom of this issue) makes a lot of folks believe the phone is stuck/frozen, when in fact its just taking a reeeeeally long time to boot.
If its true that the ROMs in fact never boot, it might just be an issue with your recovery. fastboot erase cache and either re-install recovery, update to the latest version, or try another recovery (Philz).
Even if the Sense ROMs boot, you might find some serious things are broken with your outdated firmware, such a broken WiFi. So I suggest either update your firmware or stick or ROMs based on your present firmware.
Ok thanks, i will try again. Ive read a bunch of threads about updating my firmware but couldnt find an answer to a question I have about it.
If I upgrade my firmware to the latest WWE 3.28.401.6, will it mess up my ATT settings like the bands? Also, will it erase my internal sd card?
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If I upgrade my firmware to the latest WWE 3.28.401.6, will it mess up my ATT settings like the bands? Also, will it erase my internal sd card?
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Firmware includes the radio baseband, so it may cause issues with reception on AT&T. It seems at least a couple folks have been flashing the 3.28 firmware, but I haven't seen enough reports to give me a warm and cozy feeling. With S-off (which is required to flash the firmware, anyway) you can always revert. But still, basic reception is more important to me than a couple updated features. Personally, I'll probably wait until the 3.x firmware specific to AT&T starts rolling out.
It seems like the M8 is radio agnostic like the Nexus 5 based on my experience.
I am on Rogers and flashed the latest firmware and my LTE works no issues.
The latest firmware is supposed to be EU so technically those North American bands are not supported but it works no issue.
Leads me to believe that the radio does not matter like the N5 where the 820 and 821 radios were interchangeable.
HTC One M8
Thanks redpoint, you were right, I gave it some time and it did come on. You always seem to be the one answering my questions, I appreciate it.
As for the new fw, I was thinking that would happen too from what I've read, I just needed someone more experienced to confirm that. I think I'll wait as well.
Thanks again
Elisha said:
It seems like the M8 is radio agnostic like the Nexus 5 based on my experience.
I am on Rogers and flashed the latest firmware and my LTE works no issues.
The latest firmware is supposed to be EU so technically those North American bands are not supported but it works no issue.
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On the 2.x firmware, some folks in North America (I can speak mostly of AT&T specifically, although there are a lot of network similarities with Rogers) had varying degrees of issues with the "international" firmware. For some, the reception was worse, and others had NO SIGNAL whatsoever. Probably depended on what bands AT&T was using in their specific market.
Can't say whether 3.x firmware is the same way. But in my experience (or at least, reading reports by others here), I would have to disagree this phone is in any way "radio agnostic", at least from a software perspective (as the hardware is common among at least GSM versions, and baseband software is the only difference - but that is a slightly different topic).
So what is the latest firmware I can flash that's been known to work? I've seen that viper one is based off the 2.xx fw so do you know of anyone who's flashed it with att variant without any problems?
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So what is the latest firmware I can flash that's been known to work? I've seen that viper one is based off the 2.xx fw so do you know of anyone who's flashed it with att variant without any problems?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/firmware-flashing-panic-attacks-t2824048
No probs.
redpoint73 said:
On the 2.x firmware, some folks in North America (I can speak mostly of AT&T specifically, although there are a lot of network similarities with Rogers) had varying degrees of issues with the "international" firmware. For some, the reception was worse, and others had NO SIGNAL whatsoever. Probably depended on what bands AT&T was using in their specific market.
Can't say whether 3.x firmware is the same way. But in my experience (or at least, reading reports by others here), I would have to disagree this phone is in any way "radio agnostic", at least from a software perspective (as the hardware is common among at least GSM versions, and baseband software is the only difference - but that is a slightly different topic).
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For the record, I have an AT&T model and am using the 3.xxx.xxx.6 firmware with absolutely Zero issues as far as signal. I get the exact same reception I did stock, and Very, Very similar reception to what my old Optimus G did in the same locations.
This indicates that there must be either a difference in hardware revisions (related to how some M8's can be firewater'd, whereas others need Sunshine), Or, the int'l radio firmware may not support the bands that are used on some towers in some locations. I'm leaning toward the former. For the record, my M8 is a "whelp", and I had to pay for Sunshine.
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For the record, I have an AT&T model and am using the 3.xxx.xxx.6 firmware with absolutely Zero issues as far as signal. I get the exact same reception I did stock, and Very, Very similar reception to what my old Optimus G did in the same locations.
This indicates that there must be either a difference in hardware revisions (related to how some M8's can be firewater'd, whereas others need Sunshine), Or, the int'l radio firmware may not support the bands that are used on some towers in some locations. I'm leaning toward the former.
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My guess would be the former as well. Keep mind that AT&T uses five different bands for LTE depending on your market region. Also keep in mind that travelling to another location may result in losing LTE reception (when you otherwise would have LTE on a AT&T specific radio).
Although none of this explains why I've seen some folks get NO SIGNAL whatsoever on AT&T's network after flashing the international firmware (2.x version, haven't seen any complaint yet on 3.28). Even if no LTE, those folks still should have been able to get HSPA and/or GSM since those AT&T bands appear to be supported by EMEA specs. So it leads me to believe there is something else going on aside from just band compatibility. Such as the network not falling back properly to HSPA/GSM.
I certainly don't have an issue if folks want to experiment with the 3.28 firmware on the AT&T network (as long as you know what you are doing, and are aware of the possible issues). Its certainly tempting with the 3.x based custom ROMs coming out. I might even experiment myself if I free up some time. But that spare time is a bit of a premium for me right now; and I also can't really afford ATM to have the possibility of reception issues or no service.
I was able to successfully upgrade my firmware to the 2.xxx by using skull dreams' method. As soon as my rom loaded, however, WiFi and data weren't working. I read through the thread and found that clearing cache and dalvik would fix it, so that's what I did and it worked. (initially I tried to wipe both at the same time, but it gave me errors; further reading showed I needed to wipe cache first and then dalvik).
I would now like to upgrade to the 3.xxx fw so I can install arhd 20.3, but want to know, if I upgrade my fw and it messes up, can I just do the same renaming and putting it on ext SD card to downgrade back to the 2.xx fw?
mattprice86 said:
I was able to successfully upgrade my firmware to the 2.xxx by using skull dreams' method. As soon as my rom loaded, however, WiFi and data weren't working. I read through the thread and found that clearing cache and dalvik would fix it, so that's what I did and it worked. (initially I tried to wipe both at the same time, but it gave me errors; further reading showed I needed to wipe cache first and then dalvik).
I would now like to upgrade to the 3.xxx fw so I can install arhd 20.3, but want to know, if I upgrade my fw and it messes up, can I just do the same renaming and putting it on ext SD card to downgrade back to the 2.xx fw?
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You could always restore the backup you should be making before you do any mods on your phone. That would be the safest way.
So if I upgrade my fw then restore a backup, I will lose my fw changes?
I make nandroid backups before I do any, so I have approximately 60gb of backups on an external HD, and I always keep 1 or 2 on my internal and external storage
Is there a way just to flash the Verizon radio only to a unlocked 6 pro and not have any issues on custom roms. I am currently on a custom rom and I flashed a non Verizon July ota update, but I have a Verizon sim in it now and something's not right with the cell/data service
Thanks !
It would be best asking in the ROM thread for that particular custom ROM, in my opinion. If the custom ROM already just uses the stock radio image as is without problems, then yes, you should definitely be able to just flash whatever stock radio image you want, to experiment, but there might be details I wouldn't know without being more knowledgeable about the custom ROM itself.
If you can flash it, you can Google it but it's probably something like fastboot flash radio <radio.img>. Replace <radio.img> with the filename of the radio image file that you have in the same folder as your ADB/Fastboot commands, or however you prefer to do it.
Good luck!
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It would be best asking in the ROM thread for that particular custom ROM, in my opinion. If the custom ROM already just uses the stock radio image as is without problems, then yes, you should definitely be able to just flash whatever stock radio image you want, to experiment, but there might be details I wouldn't know without being more knowledgeable about the custom ROM itself.
If you can flash it, you can Google it but it's probably something like fastboot flash radio <radio.img>. Replace <radio.img> with the filename of the radio image file that you have in the same folder as your ADB/Fastboot commands, or however you prefer to do it.
Good luck!
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Yeah I know the commands from past experiences but rooting and unlocking has changed since I last rooted. Because of the different partition set up it changes things. I was used to having cwm recovery or twrp but it seems most phones now a days need to be fastboot flashed and not really having a custom recovery to flash things. Anyways I appreciate the feedback.
I will try just flashing the radio.img unless someone tells me it's won't work like it used to
I'd take a look at this thread:
Thread 'Verizon calling problems' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/verizon-calling-problems.4460389/
I'm using the current VZW firmware (I'm on prepaid VZW) but flashed A13's beta 4.1 radio because it seems to work better for me in my locale. Do I have objective data to back it up?
Nope.
jgrimberg1979 said:
Is there a way just to flash the Verizon radio only to a unlocked 6 pro and not have any issues on custom roms. I am currently on a custom rom and I flashed a non Verizon July ota update, but I have a Verizon sim in it now and something's not right with the cell/data service
Thanks !
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I'm willing to bet most of the radios for American based stock ROMs are the same. I think vendor and various system things are what is changed between carriers because they're all designed to run all the same bands.
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I'm willing to bet most of the radios for American based stock ROMs are the same. I think vendor and various system things are what is changed between carriers because they're all designed to run all the same bands.
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I think right but if so my service feels like it did 10 years ago speeds on lte/5G