[Q] radio q's... - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi there:
i have 2 general questions about radio updates...
1) is a radio update - 2.15.x, for example - a software update or a firmware update? like, did i flash my radio so that all my roms are affected? or, is only the rom i applied it to affected?
2) does a radio update - 2.15.x, for example - affect all radios in my phone? like bluetooth? or just my cellular radio?
i'm asking because i can no longer get my dinc to connect to my bluetooth, no matter which rom i'm on. i'm trying to pin it down, and the timing seems about right to when i flashed 2.15. even my stock 2.1 rom won't connect anymore. i guess it could be something else, but the radio seems a likely culprit.
thanks!

1. It is neither...it is a radio update
2. It affects only the baseband, or cellular radio...bluetooth has something to do with the bluez plugin, which is updated in the android versions
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

1. Technically, it's a firmware update, so yes, all of your ROMs are affected. ROM flashing has nothing to do with the radio.
2. The radio update affects baseband version, which has an effect on cell network connection/quality. Bluetooth, Wifi, etc, are all handled by the kernel, which is part of Android, not the radio. Think of the radio as a completely separate OS running outside of Android.

thx for the replies, guys. it's what i expected, although i was hoping i was wrong. dang, what's messin' with my bluetooth? dang...

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Issue with Radio Upgrade

My radio initially is the original official radio, but then I want to upgrade to it 1.17.25.09.
Then I read some post saying that I should downgrade it to 1.02.xxxx or below, then I can unlock the security lock.
However, I think I misunderstand it and just downgrade it by flashing the radio, I think I am supposed to flash a rom which has an old radio with it.
But lucky that time I was able to upgrade it without security unlock my phone.
Now I just flash the radio 1.17.25.09 straight away, and now my radio is 1.17.25.09.
However, there is a little problem now.
I wasn't able to connect to the wifi internet I usually connect to, is it the problem of the radio? or is the problem of the ROM? Can I do some test to ensure my wifi function is correctly working?
Just one more question, what does the flashing a new ROM affect/change the performance of the phone?
Many thanks for reading this long thread, hope I can get some answers
I think the wifi Problem is a Problem of the rom, because 2 years ago i put a new rom on my htc wizard and then i was no longer able to connect to my home network.
Hope i was able to help a bit!
Thank you for your reply, I will try to flash a new room tonight and see whether it is functioning

Orange de-branded, updated radio, GPS broken

Hello all,
I'm aware there are a few threads of people complaining about GPS not working when updating/unbranding an Orange branded handset (more specifically the radio). The solution seems to be downgrade the radio (which is more of a workaround than a solution). I've been wanting to try out one of the recent Froyo with Sense ROMs, this includes 720p video recording (and something else). The radio must be updated for this to work. I've tried the new radio and it breaks my GPS (left it outside for 10 minutes, it used to fix within seconds). Has anyone had any success in getting the GPS to work without downgrading the radio?
Thank you, Rowan.
Okay, been nearly a month and quite a few views but no replies. Even with the latest radio GPS still never fixes. Has anyone else had any experience on this?
I'd say the easiest fix would be to shove re-flash Froyo on there and if necessary unlock your phone with a code. Failing that, root and install an older radio via recovery. I haven't seen this issue anywhere else.
I've already unlocked it. As I said in my first post I want a newer radio to try out 720p recording and such so downgrading the radio isn't really a fix. I can only think it's Orange's meddling as GPS works fine with one radio and not with another so it's not like a fault with the actual phone :/
What radio version are you using?
I'm running a de-branded Orange phone on the OTA official Froyo ROM and it's all working fine. The baseband is:
32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20
I did just try that one you mentioned and it didn't work. I used to use 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11 as my radio that GPS worked with (I tested all newer ones and no GPS). Now that doesn't work either so I'm a bit miffed.
Edit: Okay that does work actually, I'm guna play around a bit. I'll get back to you.
Edit 2: Okay, I've played. It seems it's actually a problem with Google Maps as the Compass app works fine.

[Q] Bluetooth Mutes Audio during Calls

A couple of months ago I flashed a rooted 3.70.651.1 OTA. I believe it did not have the latest radios. My original Jawbone bluetooth earpiece was working fine at that point.
Then, about five weeks ago, I flashed my radio to 2.15.00.04.08 and PRI 1.90.003.
I am not really into flashing ROMs and radios, I just want the newest stock ROM and radio, and root so I can run Titainium, WiFi Tether, etc.
After "updating" the radio, an old bluetooth issue returned: During calls, my bluetooth connection stays connected, but the audio mutes and crackles. It's so bad I can't use my earpiece right now. I am sure it's not the earpiece, for two reasons:
1. I have two Jawbones, both the same model, and both have the same issue.
2. I had this same issue about a year ago and an update seemed to have fixed it.
So I'm thinking I should flash back to the last radio, though I'm not sure which version that would be (I "think" I had 2.15.00.09.01, which seems like it would actually be a newer version, no?).
And, do I simply flash the radio? I read in another thread someone advised to flash a different kernel.
Like I said, I'm not big into this stuff, so I'm not sure exactly what to try.
Ver. 2.2
Baseband 2.15.00.04.08
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Build 3.70.651.1
PRI 1.90_003
PRL 01115
Did you find anything about this? I am having a similar issue. My Jawbone ERA used to work flawlessly, but after the last update the voice quality has become terrible on the other end. The people I call complain so much about it that I have to switch off the bluetooth and use the handset.
I think that it is related to the stock rom and not the radio. I have a Jawbone ERA as well and it works great on Miui with the latest radio.
I believe bluetooth is more related to kernel and rom. If you are rooted you could try a custom sense kernel or rom. If you are not then you have to wait for root or HTC to fix it.
Correct MIUI pronunciation: "Royale with cheese"
Hmm, and I understand there is no root available for the GB yet? This last update has really put me off of HTC, though I had been a long time fan. Well, guess won't be buying another HTC again. My high-end bluetooth headset has been rendered useless. With all the restrictions on using cell phone when driving shouldn't this be bluetooth be something really important when the manufacturers release or update their devices.
dragonsofcp said:
I think that it is related to the stock rom and not the radio. I have a Jawbone ERA as well and it works great on Miui with the latest radio.
I believe bluetooth is more related to kernel and rom. If you are rooted you could try a custom sense kernel or rom. If you are not then you have to wait for root or HTC to fix it.
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So it is now October and I still am unable to use my BT earpieces. I am not confident with dragonsofcp's suggestion because he does not state which radio he is using, so how can I compare that to the one I am using?
also, if you read my post above, the problem started after I updated the radios - not the ROM. And I do not understand what a kernal is or what it does.
Here are my current specs:
7/8/11
Used ROM Manager to update radio to 2.15.00.05.02
Then updated PRI to 2.15_003
Current Kernal is 2.6.35.10-gc0a661b
Build 4.24.651.1
PRL 60681
Bluetooth is listed as 2.1 + EDR
I am sooo frustrated. I hate having to use a wired headset. It's always getting caught on something and pulling out of my ear.
I have posted about this issue more than once but have never received any solution that worked.
leebo said:
So it is now October and I still am unable to use my BT earpieces. I am not confident with dragonsofcp's suggestion because he does not state which radio he is using, so how can I compare that to the one I am using?
also, if you read my post above, the problem started after I updated the radios - not the ROM. And I do not understand what a kernal is or what it does.
Here are my current specs:
7/8/11
Used ROM Manager to update radio to 2.15.00.05.02
Then updated PRI to 2.15_003
Current Kernal is 2.6.35.10-gc0a661b
Build 4.24.651.1
PRL 60681
Bluetooth is listed as 2.1 + EDR
I am sooo frustrated. I hate having to use a wired headset. It's always getting caught on something and pulling out of my ear.
I have posted about this issue more than once but have never received any solution that worked.
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FYI - That isn't the latest radio, or the latest ROM build. You might want to try updating to the latest versions and see if that helps.
Well, thats my plan. But last time changing radios didn't change anything, as far as my issue.
I'm trying to find out exactly which files contain the Bluetooth radio, and where do I find downloads for them?
Sent from my PC36100 (EVO) using XDA App
Updated to the latest radios (2.15.00.08.08). Didn't fix the issue.
guess I'll start looking for a ROM.
I'm wondering if maybe during flashing the ROM something doesn't install correctly, in which case flashing the same ROM again might fix it?

Baseband question

Hey guys I have a question about baseband compatibility
My GNex is completely stock 4.1.1 and is rooted.
I was on bigxies ROM running uglc1 and I seemed to have better reception with it.
Thing is, ever since I went back to stock, I've tried flashing the same radio over xxlf1 and I can't get any service. I am experiencing the same issues once again such as random signal loss and no service. I ran GetRil and everything is good there.
So is it that you just cant run a different baseband on a factory installed rom or am I doing something wrong?
Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
...Sorry for wasting anyones time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23305473&postcount=195
modiand said:
Hey guys I have a question about baseband compatibility
My GNex is completely stock 4.1.1 and is rooted.
I was on bigxies ROM running uglc1 and I seemed to have better reception with it.
Thing is, ever since I went back to stock, I've tried flashing the same radio over xxlf1 and I can't get any service. I am experiencing the same issues once again such as random signal loss and no service. I ran GetRil and everything is good there.
So is it that you just cant run a different baseband on a factory installed rom or am I doing something wrong?
Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
...Sorry for wasting anyones time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23305473&postcount=195
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Not all radio versions are compatible with every version of Android. This sounds like you have a GSM version of the GNex as I myself have a the CDMA/LTE version but in some cases when new version of Android come out or leak or what have you it's best to keep current the radio versions with the OS.... If that helps or makes sense at all. I do know that on the CDMA/LTE JellyBean updates I'm still using the radio versions from 4.0.4 with it and it's perfectly fine. Have you always had the loss in signal or is this only of recent with testing different radios?
PaullieVicious said:
Not all radio versions are compatible with every version of Android. This sounds like you have a GSM version of the GNex as I myself have a the CDMA/LTE version but in some cases when new version of Android come out or leak or what have you it's best to keep current the radio versions with the OS.... If that helps or makes sense at all. I do know that on the CDMA/LTE JellyBean updates I'm still using the radio versions from 4.0.4 with it and it's perfectly fine. Have you always had the loss in signal or is this only of recent with testing different radios?
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I got it to work. Apparently some thunderstorms knocked out at&t service last night and I was flashing radios during it so when I got done, I couldn't pull any service down. While I'm still without signal, I know its not a radio issue now. Thanks for the response
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[Q] Radio flashing?

Assuming that most users use their phone in the region they bought it why would you flash a another one, since the original was probably optimized for their region. Will flashing all these various ROMs also change my radio? Also...is radio the baseband?
RE: Radio Flashing
cstrips said:
Assuming that most users use their phone in the region they bought it why would you flash a another one, since the original was probably optimized for their region. Will flashing all these various ROMs also change my radio? Also...is radio the baseband?
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Depending on where and when you got your phone could mean a newer, faster radio might have come out. I do believe radios are area specific, but not sure.
I think any radio for the t989 will work but your data speeds, call clarity or even phone performance might take a hit.
Usually roms wont erase or put another radio on and if they do you can always just flash the proper radio.
Generally going from rom to rom while doing a full wipe will not remove your installed radio. And yes the baseband is your radio version.
Hope this helps, I only have a basic understanding and usually try to stick to the radio my provider pre-loaded.

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