Hey guys, i need some help. I flash ROMs all the time
But i have to admit. I don't understand what makes one radio
For tmobile different than the other. They are all software
Based and not a hardware change. So could someone explain
It to me like a i am two years old. In other words make it simple.
O and one more thing. Can we flash the telus radio if we use
Tmobile? Thanks in advance...
Some radios are better in certain areas for different people. I don't think are that different at all except some seem to have better signal, data, wifi, etc. ULVE1 is great on the east coast but not so much in the west. The latest UVLI4 works great and gives good speed and some say kills call echo too. It is all your location basically they just have multiple radios for phones because they usually get updates every few months like gb to ics to jb and so on. Occasionally though they do implement a fix or two into a new radio not all the time though.
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Maybe this is all in my head so I need a confirmation. Do Sense ROMs have better signal strength/data speeds? It doesn't make sense to me but I just seem to have much better reception and speeds when using a Sense based ROM, including EVO framework ones as opposed to CM and Ruby. Is there ay reason for this or am I just imagining it?
I've often wondered the same thing.
I think, however, that actual reception is tied to the PRL, the radio, the PRI, and some more uber-technical stuff - in other words, things well under the hood that aren't impacted/changed when a ROM is flashed.
That said, I suspect ROMs play differently with those things depending on how they are built, hence what appears (or may actually be) better signal.
It all comes down to the RIL and radio. A rom won't mess with those. They should be identical. Check the signal dBm's to compare roms.
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I figured it would be a radio thing but it always seemed it was changing from ROM to ROM. That being said, I switched from a Sense ROM to an AOSP one and the signal has not changed at all so thanks guys for answering the question. I knew it had to be in my head hehe
solarpolitiks said:
I figured it would be a radio thing but it always seemed it was changing from ROM to ROM. That being said, I switched from a Sense ROM to an AOSP one and the signal has not changed at all so thanks guys for answering the question. I knew it had to be in my head hehe
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One thing you DO have control over is the firmware of the radio. There are currently 3 versions of radio firmware that you can flash. This has nothing to do with the ROM. Different people have different results in terms of link stability and speed depending on them. Look for the Radio thread to find the downloads and information.
I've actually had this issue on the EVO and can confirm after testing that the signal strength is less with an AOSP ROM (every one I've tried actually). Drives me crazy because I really want to use one.
oubravs2b said:
I've actually had this issue on the EVO and can confirm after testing that the signal strength is less with an AOSP ROM (every one I've tried actually). Drives me crazy because I really want to use one.
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How exactly did you test this? There are many variables that could influence signal.
I'm running Redemption 2.4 with HeyitsLou's #9 Kernel and the factory 2.15.00.07.28 radio ... Is it really worth it to to flash the radio? ... If so, What would I gain by doing so? ...
No one can tell you if it's worth it or not because baseband performance is extremely subjective based upon your own unique circumstances.
What could you gain? Better signal, faster GPS lock, lower operating temps, better battery life. Conversely, it could also worsen these things. The only way you'll know is to give each baseband version a test drive for a few days and see which one works best for you.
Cool, thanks ... I don't know why but it didn't just click when I was reading posts that the radio is universal on the DInc ... I was worried that it might conflict with the kernel or ROM ...
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Its confirmed to work ive tried it but ultimately the 07.28 radio gave me better battery and signal. And yea what he said lol. All of our phones run diff so testing is your best bet just becareful
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I don't know what the deal is here at my house ... I get great signal everywhere else but when I started using smart phones I noticed the signal was junk here at the house ... the Verizon store is less than a mile away and I get perfect signal there ... But even standing in my front yard its crappy ... At my pop's house they have to use their phones in certain areas of the house or their calls drop, but I can use my phone anywhere in their house perfectly fine ... I may try the other radios when I have time to fool with the phone some to test them out ... Thanks for the reply ...
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YMMV + Odd
As others have said, it is a personal preference (and results may be imaginary). That said, the 9.01 leaked radio was leaked a significant time ago and was never made official; something which speaks VOLUMES to me. I use 7.28.
Hmm, I'll have to look to see what mine is, I guess I assumed it was flashed with a ROM but doesn't look like it.
Hey guys. As we all know there are about 5 different Radios for the *GSM* nexus phones and alot of people are on the bridge on which one to use, how they behaved in certain areas, which one are we using, etc and i thought a thread from us users giving our personal reviews on radios we ran and how they performed for us could be pretty beneficial. I'll start us off.
Out here in Los Angeles, California on T-Mobile USA. i was on the kk1 radio (came stock) and i had unbelievable battery life. Usually a day or two i could go without a charge! Today flashed the kk7 radio to see how it performs and immediately i noticed i'm having constant reliable 4g so thats a major plus, then just now i switched to the kl1 after looking at reviews and now i'm going to test this one for a few days to see how it goes. Me personally i am looking for the best battery life so i'll be looking for that for the next few days while i'm testing these radios out.
Let me know how that is.. I have good battery life and reception on xxkk6 here in Springfield Ohio
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DVKK6 works perfectly with the Telstra network in Australia. Although you can use the XXKK6 radio without any issues, there is little difference between the two.
Shaquiel Harris said:
Hey guys. As we all know there are about 5 different Radios for the *GSM* nexus phones and alot of people are on the bridge on which one to use, how they behaved in certain areas, which one are we using, etc and i thought a thread from us users giving our personal reviews on radios we ran and how they performed for us could be pretty beneficial. I'll start us off.
Out here in Los Angeles, California on T-Mobile USA. i was on the kk1 radio (came stock) and i had unbelievable battery life. Usually a day or two i could go without a charge! Today flashed the kk7 radio to see how it performs and immediately i noticed i'm having constant reliable 4g so thats a major plus, then just now i switched to the kl1 after looking at reviews and now i'm going to test this one for a few days to see how it goes. Me personally i am looking for the best battery life so i'll be looking for that for the next few days while i'm testing these radios out.
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we might have to stay in touch... I'm in LA and on T-Mobile. So which radio do you recommend? Kl1 or kk7 (reception speed wise)
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Wouldn't this be more useful to post in the radio-collection thread?
I mean... To keep things a bit connected? That was why I created it in the first place
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
I'm on kk1 and battery is great 3 hours screen on time with YouTube browsing and other junk, no games . However I get signal drop outs and my wifi is so slow compared to my gs2 that I use for work.
Waiting for the update hoping it will fix some issues if not time to root and flash.
But battery has gotten better the longer I have the phone and the more apps that run lol its strange lol
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KK6 - o2 Germany - best radio and speech quality I've ever had with a phone.
I've used KK1, KK6 and KL1, speed tested them and made calls, reception and battery tests.
The best one is KK1. Full HSPA where available, upload is as good as KL1. KK6 has the best upload speed, but less reception and battery durance.
KK1 switches to 3G when not used, the others don't.
So, my option is KK1 baseband plus KL01 bootloader.
KK6 has been the best for me, by far.
KK7 is out?
Flashed to kk6, best results for me
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Guys guys.
This is the radio discussion thread, and it has all the radios discussed linked and ready for download, with links for each respective basebands thread and mirrors and all that.
If you discuss things there instead of in a million loose threads around the forum it would make it easier for people later to make assumptions about which radios work well and where.
Besides, I thought XDA had a policy on duplicate posts etc.
I just got an S3. Yikes.
Even with a solid Wifi signal streaming is very choppy. On voice calls, this is the first phone I've ever had that drops calls mid conversation from home. And I've had a lot of phones on my three lines over 13 years here. Finally, LTE reception in L.A. is not great which is a problem because the phone takes too long to switch off LTE to 3G so I find that I often have no data connection at all even though solid 3G signal is available.
I tried all kinds of tweaks to make the WiFi work better (static IP, different bandwidths, etc) and nothing worked.
Sprint kept telling me to exchange my handset so I'm on my third one and had the same problem with all three.
I'm running out of time on my 14 days so hoping for some ROM guidance so I don't have to kick the tires with a bunch of ROMs trying to find the best performance. I don't want to feel like a beta tester so please only recommend stable ROMs. Don't really care about anything other features, in fact I kind of like to keep it simple. I just want stability and solid wireless performance.
Thanks in advance.
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748818
and believe me its a hit OR miss , reception issues are more than common in Sprint GS3
i have had enough and i will be switching to either a EVO LTE or Note 2.
all the best.
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I just got an S3. Yikes.
Even with a solid Wifi signal streaming is very choppy. On voice calls, this is the first phone I've ever had that drops calls mid conversation from home. And I've had a lot of phones on my three lines over 13 years here. Finally, LTE reception in L.A. is not great which is a problem because the phone takes too long to switch off LTE to 3G so I find that I often have no data connection at all even though solid 3G signal is available.
I tried all kinds of tweaks to make the WiFi work better (static IP, different bandwidths, etc) and nothing worked.
Sprint kept telling me to exchange my handset so I'm on my third one and had the same problem with all three.
I'm running out of time on my 14 days so hoping for some ROM guidance so I don't have to kick the tires with a bunch of ROMs trying to find the best performance. I don't want to feel like a beta tester so please only recommend stable ROMs. Don't really care about anything other features, in fact I kind of like to keep it simple. I just want stability and solid wireless performance.
Thanks in advance.
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I'll ask the obvious question: Did you update your phone with all the OTAs since it came out of the box?
If not, do this, then compare.
There are pockets in LA that have spotty reception, and you may live/work in an area. For me, I work in Downtown and get solid reception with no dropped calls, even in a building which is a nightmare for all network carriers.. I enjoy the AOSP built ROMS, but they seem to create signal problems with phones. So I suggest staying away from those.
I do recommend MIJJz 4.1.2 ROM which is a Sprint leak of the latest build. My phone seems to get improved reception quality and data signal strength. Up until I switched to MIJJz ROM it would take up to 30 seconds in my work building to get updates on Tweetcaster. Now, I get updates in mere seconds. For example, I've been able to keep up on all the football recruits who have signed with UCLA today, including Kylie FItts signing. Good luck to you.
GO BRUINS!!!
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try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748818
and believe me its a hit OR miss , reception issues are more than common in Sprint GS3
i have had enough and i will be switching to either a EVO LTE or Note 2.
all the best.
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The evo lte will be a waste of time cuz its identical hardware to the s3 as far as radios and soc. I do not have the issues that you or op speak of. Streaming videos is hit or miss cuz of the server not the phone or wifi. Maybe it could be router and wifi only in the instance if the video you are streaming is not in a web browser and the router and wifi access point dont like the ports the stream is trying to use and keeps re negiotiating.
I came from the evo lte, I dropped more calls on that than on my gs3.
Download and install the MA4 modem. You will get the best reception out of TW ROMs. I'm on MOAR and it is great. I also have gotten great reception on The Peoples ROM and Darth Stalker. Any of the TW ROMS should be good. I received very poor reception on AOSP ROMs though. Also make sure your PRL and Profile are updated. Most likely it is Sprint and not the phone though. A ROM cant make something out of nothing. I know my area is receiving upgrades and I went from 1 bar always at my house to 3-4 just in the last couple of weeks.
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I just got an S3. Yikes.
Even with a solid Wifi signal streaming is very choppy. On voice calls, this is the first phone I've ever had that drops calls mid conversation from home. And I've had a lot of phones on my three lines over 13 years here. Finally, LTE reception in L.A. is not great which is a problem because the phone takes too long to switch off LTE to 3G so I find that I often have no data connection at all even though solid 3G signal is available.
I tried all kinds of tweaks to make the WiFi work better (static IP, different bandwidths, etc) and nothing worked.
Sprint kept telling me to exchange my handset so I'm on my third one and had the same problem with all three.
I'm running out of time on my 14 days so hoping for some ROM guidance so I don't have to kick the tires with a bunch of ROMs trying to find the best performance. I don't want to feel like a beta tester so please only recommend stable ROMs. Don't really care about anything other features, in fact I kind of like to keep it simple. I just want stability and solid wireless performance.
Thanks in advance.
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I've never had any issues with reception only on aosp ROMs but I would suggest getting darthstalker ROM and flashing the MA4 kernel it offers the best signal on any ROM I've had and believe me I've flash almost all and above that you get the best battery life and has some pretty good signal and data speed tweaks
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I second the MA4 suggestion, you can try the stock or stock+root variant in the development section, I'm getting improved reception and speeds since moving to it.
Also, do some searching for the thread which tells you how to bypass the sprint proxies , that improved my music streaming performance over 3g as well.
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lord dredd said:
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748818
and believe me its a hit OR miss , reception issues are more than common in Sprint GS3
i have had enough and i will be switching to either a EVO LTE or Note 2.
all the best.
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Best of luck. I had the evo lte and reception issues through three strait phones over 3 months ended up landing me in a s3
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actually on the contrary, my experience has been fantastic with Evo Lte
it never lost the signals and data (3G ) was practically double.
occasional low memory and the fascination of BLACK to be black brought me to s3 .
a couple of my friends also say that their LTEs are way better as far as reception and data speed are concerned.
TBH i am still trying to find a way to not let my s3 lose reception here and there.
Though its pretty new but i guess i might try darthstalker's with ma4 kernel
thanks
I live in the Baltimore, MD area and I'm using Boost Mobile. I'm running JellyBAM android 4.2.2 currently, and plan to switch to CM11 if/when data is working.
Any suggestions for best modem for 3g speed/reception?
BLuFeNiX said:
I live in the Baltimore, MD area and I'm using Boost Mobile. I'm running JellyBAM android 4.2.2 currently, and plan to switch to CM11 if/when data is working.
Any suggestions for best modem for 3g speed/reception?
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Just try different ones... make sure they are ICS modem's though or you won't have data.
Remember... just because we all have the same device... doesn't mean that they run the same. So what works best for you might not work best for another..
Good luck.
Gil81 said:
just because we all have the same device... doesn't mean that they run the same. So what works best for you might not work best for another..
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I've heard this before, and it doesn't make much sense. Yes, location matters, but two of the same phone in the same location will likely produce negligible differences in reception when using the same modem.
BLuFeNiX said:
I've heard this before, and it doesn't make much sense. Yes, location matters, but two of the same phone in the same location will likely produce negligible differences in reception when using the same modem.
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You sound upset... that wasn't my intention buddy. But I can tell you that I have had two epic's and my first one hated JB modem's and my current one gets great signal on JB modem's... and yes it's the same area and no new towers.
Maybe it was the difference in ICS and JB, I'm not sure.
But fl24 is the newest ICS modem and that's what I get the best signal with when I'm running any cm/aosp/aokp based roms... and I've tried quite a few different modems. That was in the Chicago area and Springfield area... both in Illinois.
Also... this current epic runs aokp roms great.. where my first one wouldn't... all chips are not created equal or maybe I just didn't now what I was doing then...
Hope somebody in youre area jumps in with some info for you. Good luck..
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You sound upset... that wasn't my intention buddy. But I can tell you that I have had two epic's and my first one hated JB modem's and my current one gets great signal on JB modem's... and yes it's the same area and no new towers.
Maybe it was the difference in ICS and JB, I'm not sure.
But fl24 is the newest ICS modem and that's what I get the best signal with when I'm running any cm/aosp/aokp based roms... and I've tried quite a few different modems. That was in the Chicago area and Springfield area... both in Illinois.
Also... this current epic runs aokp roms great.. where my first one wouldn't... all chips are not created equal or maybe I just didn't now what I was doing then...
Hope somebody in youre area jumps in with some info for you. Good luck..
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No, not upset. My apologies if I came off that way. I work with radios on embedded devices and my experience has been that they all perform within <1% difference of each other when running the same software. Now, it's quite possible to have bad chips, but then all sorts of things go wrong and no amount of software can adequately compensate.
My guess is that ICS vs JB did make the difference for you. And as for AOKP roms running better, maybe it was a different version of the ROM?
Thanks for the input about FL24. I'll try it out.
I have two Epic 4G Touchs in my possession
One of them I can't even get data working on Any AOSP ROMS even though I was using ICS and GB modems.
I now use it as a media device so it doesn't really matter.
My daily driver is the complete opposite.
I get the best reception using FC14 modem.
Unless someone lives in your area with the same phone, they can tell you which modem works best for said area.