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hi guys
srry for being a noob here
i just rooted my Desire HD for the first time + ENG-S-Off and radio off
and i want to install a rom and i am having trouble choosing between android rev hd 3.5 or CyanogenMod 7/
any suggestions?
I would personally recommend you to try either Cyanogen or MIUI roms, they are very nice. I am not sure which are exactly available for your device, however. Android Rev seems pretty nice, has the basic HTC look. It's best to try them out first hand, and it's real easy once you back up your rom. Once backed up, if you are ever displeased, you can revert to exactly where you were on the old rom.
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I would personally recommend you to try either Cyanogen or MIUI roms, they are very nice. I am not sure which are exactly available for your device, however. Android Rev seems pretty nice, has the basic HTC look. It's best to try them out first hand, and it's real easy once you back up your rom. Once backed up, if you are ever displeased, you can revert to exactly where you were on the old rom.
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can i have 2-3 roms installed and just switch between them whenever i want?
do i use clockworkmod to revert back?how?
i read somewhere that its best to do a swipe before? what is it and how?
sorry for all the Q's and thank you for the reply
no. you can install 1 roms.
you need go to backup and restor in the colockrecovery.
FoxX4 said:
can i have 2-3 roms installed and just switch between them whenever i want?
do i use clockworkmod to revert back?how?
i read somewhere that its best to do a swipe before? what is it and how?
sorry for all the Q's and thank you for the reply
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Technically, in the manner you're thinking, you can't just choose. However, once you've flashed the rom & done a backup, you can just restore it at any given point. I have a couple of backups I go between, mainly CM7 & MIUI. If I wanted to switch back to CM7 right now, I'd just boot into recovery & nandroid restore. If you want to be able to do that, I would set it up how you like it first - restore your apps with Titanium Backup, set up your homescreens, etc then do your backup. Otherwise it wouldn't be any different than just flashing the Rom.
But really, I'd just try a bunch of different roms out & see what you like. Before flashing, you need to wipe data, cache & dalvik cache at the least. You do this by booting into recovery (I'm not sure of the method for your phone) and choosing wipe. Then choose what you want to wipe. Don't wipe the SD card. I believe in Clockwork Mod, dalvik is under advanced.
If you don't understand this, then you need to read more before flashing anything. Knowledge is your friend... and the best bet against a bricked device.
Good luck!
plainjane said:
Technically, in the manner you're thinking, you can't just choose. However, once you've flashed the rom & done a backup, you can just restore it at any given point. I have a couple of backups I go between, mainly CM7 & MIUI. If I wanted to switch back to CM7 right now, I'd just boot into recovery & nandroid restore. If you want to be able to do that, I would set it up how you like it first - restore your apps with Titanium Backup, set up your homescreens, etc then do your backup. Otherwise it wouldn't be any different than just flashing the Rom.
But really, I'd just try a bunch of different roms out & see what you like. Before flashing, you need to wipe data, cache & dalvik cache at the least. You do this by booting into recovery (I'm not sure of the method for your phone) and choosing wipe. Then choose what you want to wipe. Don't wipe the SD card. I believe in Clockwork Mod, dalvik is under advanced.
If you don't understand this, then you need to read more before flashing anything. Knowledge is your friend... and the best bet against a bricked device.
Good luck!
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good info m8
thanx
I have a hero and have used CM6 and CM7 as well a asopCmod ROMs and if my phone's hardware would be better I've been using MIUI I heard pretty cool things about that Rom!!
Just test them out. You dont have to stick with the first one you pick. I think that within the first week of me rooting my evo, I changed roms every day and sometimes two or three times a day, lol. You just have to find the one that has / does not have the things you want.
fikusunc said:
Just test them out. You dont have to stick with the first one you pick. I think that within the first week of me rooting my evo, I changed roms every day and sometimes two or three times a day, lol. You just have to find the one that has / does not have the things you want.
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Great advice and this sounds exactly like me. Exactly what I have done.
Every time I tell my wife I switched roms she just rolls her eyes and says "Of course..." it is a fereign language to her.
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lol
thanks amigos
lucky i got no wife yet
i'll start playing with the roms soon
ok i have read more and i just want to make sure cus i dont think i got it right
i have the android rev rom installed and i want to try CyanogenMod 7 so in order for me to install it i need to first backup with nandroid ---> wipe data and cache and then install CyanogenMod 7
am i right?
the part thats the problem is the nandroid which i havent figured out how to do u guys have a good guide for nooooooobs
and do i have to use nandroid or titanium backup is good too, and can i just install CyanogenMod 7 directly from rom manger????
again srry for all the Q
thanks
any1 using gingervillain rom? im using 1.5 how do i update it to 2.0? i wipe and stuff but it dont seem to go to 2.0
bigdog1171 said:
Every time I tell my wife I switched roms she just rolls her eyes and says "Of course..." it is a foreign language to her.
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lol, yup, I used to get the same thing....until I rooted her phone. I dont get to roll my eyes at her cuz im the one stuck putting the new rom on her phone every other day
Basically a nandroid backup is just a fancy word for going into clockworkmod and selecting backup, its actually easier still to download Tom manager from the market and click backup in that app, its so easy when you know how
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Haha and my girlfriend hated roms too until I rooted her phone but now I do it all too, while she plays farmville -_-
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FoxX4 said:
ok i have read more and i just want to make sure cus i dont think i got it right
i have the android rev rom installed and i want to try CyanogenMod 7 so in order for me to install it i need to first backup with nandroid ---> wipe data and cache and then install CyanogenMod 7
thanks
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This is assuming that you are using ClockworkMod Recovery
1. Power off phone
2. Hold down the Power button + Volume down
3. When the white screen comes up, wait for it to do the PC36IMG steps
4. Volume down or up ( will move your option you want ) to RECOVERY the press power button ( power button is always to select your selection )
5. Select backup and restore
6. Select backup
7. wait for process to complete
* your backup will be stored with a dateTime stamp. so if you do multiple backups or backup different roms, you have to remember what date and time that you did them. I have not tried to edit the name of the backup yet.
The above steps are considered a "nandroid" backup, if Im not mistaken.
Now for the wipe process ( these are what I do for each new rom )
1. - 4. are same as above
5. select wipe data/factory reset
6. Select Yes -- delete all user data
7. Select Wipe cache partition
8. Select Yes - Wipe Cache
9. Select advanced
10. Select wipe dalvik cache
11. Select Yes - wipe dalvic cache
12. Select Wipe Battery Stats
13. Select Yes - wipe battery stats
Those steps will give you a clean slate for your new rom to be installed on.
Use rom manager to manage backups stored on the sd card, it can safely change the name into a format that clockworkmod can use (ie.no spaces)
In all respect you really should use rom manager its a great tool, and free from the makers of clockworkmod so intergrates well
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fikusunc said:
lol, yup, I used to get the same thing....until I rooted her phone. I dont get to roll my eyes at her cuz im the one stuck putting the new rom on her phone every other day
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My wife won't let me root her Optimus....I keep begging and she keeps saying no...just wish for once she would tell me yes and not have a headache...oh wait we were talking about rooting phones right?? LOL
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OK
thanks to all of you - i got really good info from u all
i will start playing with my phone of destruction now
thanks again
FoxX4 said:
OK
thanks to all of you - i got really good info from u all
i will start playing with my phone of destruction now
thanks again
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You'll have to let us know how it goes.
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I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
macmac2008 said:
I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
bortak said:
Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
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He's prolly gonna need it eventually when he decides to try one of those unstable roms out there.
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stankyou said:
eventually
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Eventually. OP only wanted CM for now
Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated.
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
gab_hamelin said:
Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated
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Take your advice and go somewhere else. ROM Manager both sucks and blows and just causes problems. The only "good" use it does have is the ability to download ROM's straight to your phone. Otherwise steer clear.
gab_hamelin said:
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
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In most cases
gab_hamelin said:
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
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Should do a full wipe, including boot, system etc.
gab_hamelin said:
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
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Do not use ROM manager to make backups. Can just cause problems as already stated. Don't be lazy and do it yourself via recovery, now with 4EXT touch it's easier and simpler than ever.
Yes. Go and flash manually. Rom manager is just a middle man that screws up the process. Dont ever use it at least for Desire coz it really doesnt play well with it. Even after you successfully flashed cyanogenmod.
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Use this fine guide?
I used this very fine guide when I wanted to go further than HTC would let me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
And it is maintained on XDA, which is nice.
Hi, guys. As the title, & I'm looking at my phone.I'm an absolute noobie with this. I know I want to install a new ROM, as the battery life is pooh (one day) & it has a very limited amount of internal memory. The Wildchild lite ROM looks fine, but I've no idea how to proceed. Partition the SD card? How? Then find the ROM & place it there...etc, etc.
I've tried to search the FAQ's but so far no luck.
Anyone got a link, as I'm sure I'm not the first?
Love you guys ('n' gals, no doubt) for the work you do, my last was a HTC Touch & thanks to you lot it worked really well until it went swimming...:crying:
Cheers,
First and foremost...........Unlock your bootloader via HTCdev.com,you will have to create an account there(the instructions there are very easy)
Next up..................rooting your phone,i recommend searching for "Doomlord's easy rooting toolkit" on XDA..run it and you will get root
Next is installing the custom recovery,the easiest way is to download "Rom manager" from the Play Store.....open it and select "Download Clockworkmod recovery" and "Flash clockworkmod recovery"
Finally installing the rom.................for newbies, the best way to do so is via Rom manager..........Remember to backup your current rom in case you wish to revert back
And do remeber to wipe data, wipe dalvik cache before installing a rom
Actualy.
1. Unlock bootloader via htc.dev
2. Download rezo609 wfs tool look it up in the development section
3. Use it to flash cwr.
4. Than flash wildchid ROM I'm
pretty sure it had instructions on how to install it via cwr.
5. Enjoy your new ROM
Keep in mind that these thing can brick your phone and will void the warranty. Also i hold no responsibility if any of these steps lead to your phone's early demise( i always wanted to say that, but srsly take caution and read carefully).
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I would say install Link2Sd once rooted. That will solve your memory problem!
Old noobies...
Thanks, folks, much appreciated. I'm sure that this thread will be of use to others. Will let you know how I got on. After I have my coffee, and load up with my glasses & hearing aid.. Don't think I'm joking...:crying:
Thanks to all,
Hi, guys. I eventually managed to get my phone to HTC sync! It's all down to the lack of ROM. After a factory reset, voila!
I'll be trying to flash it with this advice you guys have been kind enough to post.
Again, cheers.
Caro332 said:
I would say install Link2Sd once rooted. That will solve your memory problem!
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I think Int2Ext+, Data2SD, AD2SDX or scripts like these are better than Link2SD.
Hi All, let me start with a warning…
total Android n00b here, doing his first ROM flash on a newly rooted T-Mobile G2. I’ve read and searched a bit in the forum threads to see if I could solve this on my own, but I do need help.
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.82.0000 (PC1010000)
MICROP - 0425
RADIO - 26.02.01.15_M2
eMMC - boot
Aug 20 2010, 16:51:01
This is from using the instructions in Strawmetal’s PDF guide to Downgrading from Gingerbread to Froyo and Root. I am working with a G2 phone that was set to Factory Reset before rooting, so there is no user data to backup or worry about.
1. I downloaded the Andromadus Mimicry 1.1.2 ROM image, and verified the md5 checksum on my sdcard using the AFV Legacy application. The Gapps image also was verified as well.
2. Using ROM Manager 5.0.0.8 from the Google Market, I ran Clockwork Recovery to install the Andromadus image. I left all settings on defaults and the installer ran fine.
3. When it restarted, I was left stuck at the white HTC screen for ages… the longest I left it was 20 mins. After that, I pulled the battery and restarted. Same white HTC screen.
4. I tried using Volume (+) key and Power On to get back to Clockwork Recovery, but the phone vibrated (buzzed) 3x times quickly, and the Power LED lamp pulsed an amber color. Again, yank battery, restart, same white HTC screen.
5. finally I decided to read more of the help for adb, and found the command “adb reboot-bootloader”. This let me get into the default Recovery mode, and it proceeded to find the PC10IMG.zip I still had on the sdcard from doing the Froyo downgrade. Recovery checked it out, ran it and restored the stock Froyo image and my phone did a proper restart. WHEW.
After that, I had to run adb to install the hboot recovery image file, and the busybox checksums were valid according to Strawmetal’s PDF instructions to get permanent root back after restoring the stock Froyo image.
I have done this process about 4 times, and am really good at typing inside adb now
But I’m lost…
-did I pick a ROM that doesn’t work with the G2? Other posters to the forum thread appear to be using the HTC Vision or G2.
-is ROM Manager not a good way to install a ROM?
-when I tried to get back into Recovery, what do the 3x buzzes/amber power LED mean?
-I never got to install the Gapps image; was I supposed to install that first, then the ROM image?
I imagine I did something wrong (duh!), but I can’t spot it. If someone can help me through this, I’d appreciate some advice very much.
thanks!
Rather than clockwork, use 4EXT recovery, much better for our device. ROM manager and clockwork have grown very iffy over the past year. Don't use rom manager to install a rom, download the zip yourself and manually install it in recovery.
Next you need to find the "superwipe+ext4.zip" floating around here, it is indispensable for FULLY wiping your phone when switching roms.
Mimicry works fine on the G2, in fact everything (except a few sense roms that need a Desire Z hboot) in the development section runs fine on the G2.
So....get the ROM, GApps for that ROM, the Superwipe zip (you will flash this right before you begin flashing the rom) on your SD card and make sure you are using 4EXT recovery (find the link in the dev section).
Make sure before you do ANYTHING you make a Nandroid backup (using your recovery).
Your issue is actually addressed in the Mimicry OP, please read it first. That said, the problem is almost certainly because you're coming from GB without a full wipe. You can use 4ext to repartiton/wipe all, or you can use superwipe+ext4 as mentioned by Nospin.
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Hi Nospin,
Thank you very much for your suggestions!
I will revise my root and remove Clockwork, and switch to 4EXT instead.
I appreciate the idea of "superwipe"; I will look for that as well today.
If I understand everything right...
-replace CWM with 4EXT
-place superwipe.zip, Gapps.zip and the Mimicry ROM.zip on the top level of the sdcard first.
-reboot the phone and run 4EXT recovery
-select superwipe to run first, then the ROM and then Gapps
-then restart the phone
When I used CWM before to install the ROM, it rebooted on its own before I could install Gapps. Will 4EXT let me do each install right after each other or do I have to return to 4EXT for each separate install?
regards,
motionmonk
Nospin said:
Rather than clockwork, use 4EXT recovery, much better for our device. ROM manager and clockwork have grown very iffy over the past year. Don't use rom manager to install a rom, download the zip yourself and manually install it in recovery.
Next you need to find the "superwipe+ext4.zip" floating around here, it is indispensable for FULLY wiping your phone when switching roms.
Mimicry works fine on the G2, in fact everything (except a few sense roms that need a Desire Z hboot) in the development section runs fine on the G2.
So....get the ROM, GApps for that ROM, the Superwipe zip (you will flash this right before you begin flashing the rom) on your SD card and make sure you are using 4EXT recovery (find the link in the dev section).
Make sure before you do ANYTHING you make a Nandroid backup (using your recovery).
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Hi blk_jack,
I went back to the Mimicry page and re-read the FAQ section.
I think what I got out of it the first time was that if the ROM flash failed, it could be a corrupt ROM image. I will definitely use 4EXT to repartition before I try again with a ROM flash.
I guess I am still getting used to the terms for everything; can 4EXT do the nandroid backup? or is there a better process for setting that up?
thank you!
motionmonk
blk_jack said:
Your issue is actually addressed in the Mimicry OP, please read it first. That said, the problem is almost certainly because you're coming from GB without a full wipe. You can use 4ext to repartiton/wipe all, or you can use superwipe+ext4 as mentioned by Nospin.
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Yes, you should be able to flash the rom and then GApps without rebooting. Give me a few and I will send you a PM with a few links....
Shot you a PM.
Thanks! I'll check it out :good:
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Shot you a PM.
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Ok...
I re-flashed back to stock Froyo, and did a permanent root.
Installed 4ext Recovery (instead of Clockwork), and got a copy of SuperwipeG2+ext4;
I copied new checksum'd copies of Mimicry 1.1.2 ROM and GApps to my sdcard.
Booted into 4ext Recovery and installed from .zip the SuperwipeG2+ext4 file.
System, data and cache are all converted to ext4 partitions.
Wiped the system and data and cache partitions.
Installed from inside Recovery the Mimicry ROM and then the GApps archives.
No errors reported.
Upon reboot, I still get the white HTC screen. UGH.
I've left it on in that state for 30 mins... I had to yank the battery after that in shame...
I have tried to make sure that I read up on background steps, and I feel I do understand the overall process, but something is still getting in the way. I am doing this as I mentioned in an earlier post on a factory reset G2 with a clean erased SD card (has the stock Froyo image, Andromadus Mimicry ROM and GApps only). There is no SIM card installed either, wifi is off (to avoid OTA upgrade requests).
Are there other things I can try, or info I can supply that would help? I think I'm so close to getting this done... I must be overlooking something obvious.
I run that by rom along with Cm9 beta..... Try adding that to your boot process. Just Cm9 beta..... Other than version of crash.... That's just what I have experienced
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Hi amogil,
Just to be sure I understand, are you saying you are swapping between Andromadus and CM9 beta on your phone?
Did you flash CM9 first? and then Andromadus?
or just carrying the CM9 beta image and running Andromadus?
Sorry, I'm all sorts of confused here lol
thanks
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I run that by rom along with Cm9 beta..... Try adding that to your boot process. Just Cm9 beta..... Other than version of crash.... That's just what I have experienced
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Ugh....it's frustrating isn't it?
Can you boot into any other rom? For example if you downloaded CM7.2? If you don't have any problems we can eliminate some possibilities.....
I had a similar problem booting into Mimicry my first time, in that I could get past the white HTC screen but after that my screen would just go black. After a couple frustrating hours what ended up working for me was downloading the older version (1.1.1 I think?) and that booted up fine . Then after letting that boot I went back into recovery and flashed 1.1.2 without wiping (I might have wiped cache and dalvik...). Everything worked great after that. Not the same problem as you, but similar.....
It's definitely a thought, and I believe that's what amogil is telling me too...
Ya, I can try a different ROM and report back.
I guess I should go back to stock Froyo and then start from CM7.2, and if that boots, try Mimicry again?
-from the Andromadus FAQ, it says it if a different ROM is based on ICS9, you shouldn't have to wipe. But with CM7, I'd have to wipe the Dalvik cache, yes?
-since CM7 is obviously not based on ICS9, would being able to launch into that show some details I can't see at present? Just was curious.
Or, do you think it better to go stock Froyo and then the older Mimicry ROM?
Either way, I'll make sure that I use the Superwipe to set things to ext4 first.
thanks guys for the ideas,
motionmonk
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Ugh....it's frustrating isn't it?
Can you boot into any other rom? For example if you downloaded CM7.2? If you don't have any problems we can eliminate some possibilities.....
I had a similar problem booting into Mimicry my first time, in that I could get past the white HTC screen but after that my screen would just go black. After a couple frustrating hours what ended up working for me was downloading the older version (1.1.1 I think?) and that booted up fine . Then after letting that boot I went back into recovery and flashed 1.1.2 without wiping (I might have wiped cache and dalvik...). Everything worked great after that. Not the same problem as you, but similar.....
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The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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SUCCESS!
Woohoo!
It works!
Since I had an ICS9 ROM already in place and was planning to wipe back to stock anyways, I tried flashing the older Andromadus 1.1.0 ROM.
What a surprise and treat to see the startup animation!
After poking around for an hour inside it, I then tried Recovery to reflash to the newest 1.1.2 ROM.
YAY! It works!
OMG, having a new ROM is like having a new phone-- there are so many improvements to the UI and it's quick and speedy versus GB. Dang, I'm happy now :victory:
Observations:
1. I did notice that inside Recovery, my touchscreen was barely functional when I tried to update from 1.1.0 up to 1.1.2-- I had to use the Volume +/- and the d-pad button to make selections. After the flash, the touchscreen is as responsive as ever.
2. it's got me thinking, that there must be a setting that is expected in the v1.1.2 ROM that the v1.1.0 ROM installed. Or could something else be the issue? I mean absolutely no disrespect to the developers... but on the technical side, I'm just curious what possibilities exist that might lead to this situation.
3. backup question... when I use MyBackup Pro, I know I can make an archive of the apps I've installed, and an archive of the data (documents, music, settings). Is a nandroid backup different from that? when I see the backup/restore options inside of 4ext Recovery, what are those doing that's different from what I get from MyBackup Pro?
thanks for all the help and encouragement. I have a new ROM installed! :good:
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The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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Oooh, a possibility. We will see if he can boot a different rom.
Whenever you switch roms (even if they are using the same Android version as a base) I suggest a full wipe. (Wipe all user data + Dalvik Cache + Cache, or just flash the superwipe zip). When upgrading the rom you are currently on (say upgrading CM Nightlies or going from Mimicry 1.1.1 to 1.1.2) you only need to really wipe cache and dalvik cache. Unless the dev states otherwise of course.
Hi strawmetal,
It turns out that I did have s-off after all...
1. after one of the many attempts to flash the ROM image and restoring back to stock Froyo, I said that "I'm gonna start this entire process over to be sure." So I get stuck using the fre3vo tool for about 30 minutes, rebooting and trying different address ranges to find the exploit.
Never found one... oh no, what did I do to the phone now??
-then it hit me; if it can't find an exploit... then it must already been used!
2. also, I did check each time I was in bootloader that my S-OFF was there and the radio and hboot were not changing versions.
3. Hehe, and the best indication was... being able to boot up finally!
I also have your Strawmetal.CM.V6.zip on my sdcard; if the downflash (?) to the Andromadus older ROM didn't work, yours was the CM7 image I wanted to try. If it's ok, I think I want to play around inside CM9 for a bit and then try yours out after that. I don't want to overwhelm my poor brain!
thank you for your suggestion... that definitely would be something to check as well.
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The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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Thank You All!
A big shout out to:
Nospin
blk_jack
amogil
strawmetal
for taking the time out to help a total n00b stumble through his first ROM flash.
I really appreciate the points you guys made, and the help provided.
Thank you!
I hope that one day I can help someone else out with a problem and pass the kindness forward.
Yay! I have a working ROM!
motionmonk
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Hi strawmetal,
It turns out that I did have s-off after all...
1. after one of the many attempts to flash the ROM image and restoring back to stock Froyo, I said that "I'm gonna start this entire process over to be sure." So I get stuck using the fre3vo tool for about 30 minutes, rebooting and trying different address ranges to find the exploit.
Never found one... oh no, what did I do to the phone now??
-then it hit me; if it can't find an exploit... then it must already been used!
2. also, I did check each time I was in bootloader that my S-OFF was there and the radio and hboot were not changing versions.
3. Hehe, and the best indication was... being able to boot up finally!
I also have your Strawmetal.CM.V6.zip on my sdcard; if the downflash (?) to the Andromadus older ROM didn't work, yours was the CM7 image I wanted to try. If it's ok, I think I want to play around inside CM9 for a bit and then try yours out after that. I don't want to overwhelm my poor brain!
thank you for your suggestion... that definitely would be something to check as well.
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The bootloader can show a false s-off. I've personally experienced this. By the time "HTCDev bootloader unlock" came out i was already rooted. But as curious as I was I decided to try it out. Flashed an RUU ( my my why would I do that ) Got back s-on( guess this was false too) then I used HTCDev method to prove i'm a total noob. Then i relocked it using Nipqer's guide and followed setherio's method again. I was able to use the stock froyo, but no other rom would boot( false s-off being the culprit ). This time I ran to #g2root on freenode. Nipqer saved me.
WOW. i just realized there is SO MUCH I need to catch up on!
I'll have to look up some of these guides later today... but the RUU is the ROM upgrade, right?
Did you ever find a reason why you got the false S-OFF flag? It's clear that the way I was looking at the failed fre3vo exploit as proof of S-OFF isn't always going to be true... but how would you separate a false S-OFF flag from lets say a wrong hboot image?
BTW, your PDF on downgrading and rooting the G2 was a godsend. Very very helpful and clear.
One of the reasons why I took so long to try rooting was that I was confused by the different methods and the replies of X not working, Y is a better way... going through your guide and the info here on xda cleared alot of things up. :good:
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The bootloader can show a false s-off. I've personally experienced this. By the time "HTCDev bootloader unlock" came out i was already rooted. But as curious as I was I decided to try it out. Flashed an RUU ( my my why would I do that ) Got back s-on( guess this was false too) then I used HTCDev method to prove i'm a total noob. Then i relocked it using Nipqer's guide and followed setherio's method again. I was able to use the stock froyo, but no other rom would boot( false s-off being the culprit ). This time I ran to #g2root on freenode. Nipqer saved me.
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Hi,
I'm new here so please go easy on this "noob"
It was my first to unlock and root my phone, followed by flashing a stock ROM (Which is exactly why I rooted it)
I flashed this JB 4.2.2 stock build [ROM] [OTA][GSM] Android 4.2.2 JDQ39: Rooted | Galaxy Nexus > XDA for my Galaxy Nexus
Now...
I can't disable Next-word suggestions in the Language & Input -> Google Keyboard Settings
Also, I noticed a few seconds of lag when pressing the power button to unlock the phone, when viewing recent apps (via the soft-key), and when opening the Camera too
Also, when I choose the "Recent Apps" soft key.. it's as the app that's currently being used is minimised and the homescreen is shown without any icons
The Build came with Busybox pre-installed and now its gone after a day of using my phone... I literally can't find it.
I searched in the play store "BusyBox" and the result is 3 different apps with the same name!
Any Advice?
AMKhatri said:
Hi,
I'm new here so please go easy on this "noob"
It was my first to unlock and root my phone, followed by flashing a stock ROM (Which is exactly why I rooted it)
I flashed this JB 4.2.2 stock build [ROM] [OTA][GSM] Android 4.2.2 JDQ39: Rooted | Galaxy Nexus > XDA for my Galaxy Nexus
Now...
I can't disable Next-word suggestions in the Language & Input -> Google Keyboard Settings
Also, I noticed a few seconds of lag when pressing the power button to unlock the phone, when viewing recent apps (via the soft-key), and when opening the Camera too
Also, when I choose the "Recent Apps" soft key.. it's as the app that's currently being used is minimised and the homescreen is shown without any icons
The Build came with Busybox pre-installed and now its gone after a day of using my phone... I literally can't find it.
I searched in the play store "BusyBox" and the result is 3 different apps with the same name!
Any Advice?
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go back to recovery, format/wipe /system partition, reflash rom.
For your reference, a good app to install bb is stephen (stericsson)'s busybox installer (play store link). Obviously, it needs root.
Next time, read the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
How do I get “root”?
If you are booted into a custom recovery (recoveries will be covered later), root is enabled by default. If you want root while booted into Android, you will need to place two files on your system partition: an “su” binary which grants root access, and a superuser app that manages that access. The two that are available are ChainsDD’s Superuser and Chainfire’s SuperSU. Usually these files are packaged up in a zip file that is flashable using a custom recovery, but they can be flashed manually using ADB. Both of these methods will be described below.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26328017&postcount=123
As you probably noticed by now, you didn't need to flash a full "custom stock ROM" to root.
beekay201 said:
go back to recovery, format/wipe /system partition, reflash rom.
For your reference, a good app to install bb is stephen (stericsson)'s busybox installer (play store link). Obviously, it needs root.
Next time, read the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26328017&postcount=123
As you probably noticed by now, you didn't need to flash a full "custom stock ROM" to root.
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Thanks for replying!
I'm totally new to this rooting &/ flashing thing, so please go easy
So, what you're saying is that I should boot into fastboot mode, wipe system partition (this will format the whole SD card right?), install the same ROM again?
I guess I'll need to install Titanium Backup to backup my apps and settings, I'll have to search for an article for the best way to do it as well..
Can I do it like this:
Open "Rom Manager", Select "Install ROM from SD Card", install it.. ???
PS: Do you have a recommendation for a better ROM, perhaps my choice of ROM wasn't correct...
AMKhatri said:
Thanks for replying!
I'm totally new to this rooting &/ flashing thing, so please go easy
So, what you're saying is that I should boot into fastboot mode, wipe system partition (this will format the whole SD card right?), install the same ROM again?
I guess I'll need to install Titanium Backup to backup my apps and settings, I'll have to search for an article for the best way to do it as well..
Can I do it like this:
Open "Rom Manager", Select "Install ROM from SD Card", install it.. ???
PSo you have a recommendation for a better ROM, perhaps my choice of ROM wasn't correct...
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You can wipe the system partition in a custom recovery (dont know if you can with stock). And yes you could flash via ROM manager but I wouldnt recommend it. I am on XenonHD 11.1 and loving it. But roms are a personal choice so there is no 'best' ROM. Just try out.
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mrgnex said:
You can wipe the system partition in a custom recovery (dont know if you can with stock). And yes you could flash via ROM manager but I wouldnt recommend it. I am on XenonHD 11.1 and loving it. But roms are a personal choice so there is no 'best' ROM. Just try out.
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The tutorial I followed didn't mention using the ROM manager, but I had not choice.. becuase whenever I went into fastboot mode manually, it got stuck on the screen displaying Google (I waited for minutes without any luck)
How would you recommend CyanogenMod 10.1.2 against the stock 4.2.2 which I have currently?
I read these threads as well whereby they said that there is no "real" solution to the issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178962
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2363872
AMKhatri said:
Thanks for replying!
I'm totally new to this rooting &/ flashing thing, so please go easy
So, what you're saying is that I should boot into fastboot mode, wipe system partition (this will format the whole SD card right?), install the same ROM again?
I guess I'll need to install Titanium Backup to backup my apps and settings, I'll have to search for an article for the best way to do it as well..
Can I do it like this:
Open "Rom Manager", Select "Install ROM from SD Card", install it.. ???
PS: Do you have a recommendation for a better ROM, perhaps my choice of ROM wasn't correct...
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Mr., please, read the LINK i gave you! THIS ONE ->>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812959
If you read it, you'll stop thinking you need to be doing anything at this point in FASTBOOT interface! Like mrgnex says, you need to be on a custom recovery to format /system. (Have you read the link yet? By now you should know that the /system partition and the /sdcard/ (aka userdata) are 2 different things!)
mrgnex said:
You can wipe the system partition in a custom recovery (dont know if you can with stock). (...) roms are a personal choice so there is no 'best' ROM. Just try out.
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+1
For your reference, you can't erase /system in stock recovery.
AMKhatri said:
The tutorial I followed didn't mention using the ROM manager, but I had not choice.. becuase whenever I went into fastboot mode manually, it got stuck on the screen displaying Google (I waited for minutes without any luck)
How would you recommend CyanogenMod 10.1.2 against the stock 4.2.2 which I have currently?
I read these threads as well whereby they said that there is no "real" solution to the issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2178962
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2363872
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Stop! THERE'S NO NEED FOR FASTBOOT HERE!
Thanks Guys for replying.
Yes, I read the info in the link, it was very helpful.
I'm still confused though.. "Fast boot" and "Recovery" are they the same thing?
I tried a "fix" mentioned by someone about using a live wallpaper such as "Water", I tried it and it's been 1/2 hour and it's really smooth compared to before...
Yes, I do have a custom recovery, actually I don't know why, but It seems I've got two according to ROM Manager.
It says I've got Clockwork Mod Recovery & TWRP.
I also tried going into recovery (Volume up + Down + Power) and it worked this time, when I select recovery, it goes into CWRM
I also did a bit of research about CyanogenMod 10.1.2 and from what I could gather it's liked by people a lot.
I'm guessing that definitely some time ahead it'll get all "laggy" again, Is there any reason according to you why I shouldn't install it compared to the stock 4.2.2 I have?
AMKhatri said:
Thanks Guys for replying.
Yes, I read the info in the link, it was very helpful.
I'm still confused though.. "Fast boot" and "Recovery" are they the same thing?
I tried a "fix" mentioned by someone about using a live wallpaper such as "Water", I tried it and it's been 1/2 hour and it's really smooth compared to before...
Yes, I do have a custom recovery, actually I don't know why, but It seems I've got two according to ROM Manager.
It says I've got Clockwork Mod Recovery & TWRP.
I also tried going into recovery (Volume up + Down + Power) and it worked this time, when I select recovery, it goes into CWRM
I also did a bit of research about CyanogenMod 10.1.2 and from what I could gather it's liked by people a lot.
I'm guessing that definitely some time ahead it'll get all "laggy" again, Is there any reason according to you why I shouldn't install it compared to the stock 4.2.2 I have?
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So to get things clear:
No fastboot and recovery arent the same thing.
Vol up+down+power brings you into fast boot and not recovery.
Apparently you dont have 2 custom recoverys since you booted into cwm.
Cm10 is great. But there are many great roms out there. You can start off with cm and then (if you please) look further.
I dont see any reason to not install cm10.1.2 since a whole team built and optimized it. So basically it is a better stock.
When you think your phone is slow you should look into the custom kernels. Thats a different story which I will not begin before you want to
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mrgnex said:
So to get things clear:
No fastboot and recovery arent the same thing.
Vol up+down+power brings you into fast boot and not recovery.
Apparently you dont have 2 custom recoverys since you booted into cwm.
Cm10 is great. But there are many great roms out there. You can start off with cm and then (if you please) look further.
I dont see any reason to not install cm10.1.2 since a whole team built and optimized it. So basically it is a better stock.
When you think your phone is slow you should look into the custom kernels. Thats a different story which I will not begin before you want to
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Thanks! Now it's definitely clear!
I'll download CM10.1.2 tomorrow and will decide to install it once Stock JB 4.2.2 starts acting up again.
In the meantime I'll read on about kernels, please keep don't close this thread...yet.
clerk usdEuro
I've decided that I will test out the Rom that I have currently (4.2.2) for a few weeks, and then flash CM.
I wanted to know one more thing, Is it bad to flash ROMs to your phone every now and then?
Because I've seen people flashing different ROMs on their phone, I don't wanna damage my phone as I want it to last as long as I can make it.
(by "Bad" I mean... does it reduce the phone's life or it's hardware's life span)
AMKhatri said:
I've decided that I will test out the Rom that I have currently (4.2.2) for a few weeks, and then flash CM.
I wanted to know one more thing, Is it bad to flash ROMs to your phone every now and then?
Because I've seen people flashing different ROMs on their phone, I don't wanna damage my phone as I want it to last as long as I can make it.
(by "Bad" I mean... does it reduce the phone's life or it's hardware's life span)
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No it can't. I was a flashaholic (until I discovered XenonHD) and my phone didn't got worse. Only overclocking the CPU and gpu can affect the life of the CPU or gpu (or both XD). Just do a fresh install everytime and read the post of the ROM of your choice to see what to do to get it working optimally. If you have any problems just ask.
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mrgnex said:
No it can't. I was a flashaholic (until I discovered XenonHD) and my phone didn't got worse. Only overclocking the CPU and gpu can affect the life of the CPU or gpu (or both XD). Just do a fresh install everytime and read the post of the ROM of your choice to see what to do to get it working optimally. If you have any problems just ask.
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Thanks...
I'll flash CM in a week or two, as I'm on a tight schedule currently, and I also wanna note down the average battery time I get out of 4.2.2
So... since 4.3 is now out, I was thinking it'd be better for me to flash it other than anything else.
I'll most probably download the stock rom from:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjujwr66v
So far I came across this thread having the steps to flash 4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377307
But I wanna flash it and lose my data, so that it's as fresh as it can be...
Will that work if I use "wugfresh root toolkit"?
AMKhatri said:
So... since 4.3 is now out, I was thinking it'd be better for me to flash it other than anything else.
I'll most probably download the stock rom from:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#yakjujwr66v
So far I came across this thread having the steps to flash 4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377307
But I wanna flash it and lose my data, so that it's as fresh as it can be...
Will that work if I use "wugfresh root toolkit"?
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With the stock package there is no need for a toolkit.
Hell, there's no reason for a toolkit any time.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Pirateghost said:
With the stock package there is no need for a toolkit.
Hell, there's no reason for a toolkit any time.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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What was I thinking...
I apologize guys... I guess I wasn't thinking straight as its past midnight here...
So just to clarify stuff so that I don't end up doing something wrong:
-> Head into Recovery Mode (with usb debugging enabled... connect usb cable to phone and pc)
-> Wipe System
-> Wipe Cache
-> Install from SD card (select .zip file)
right?
Also, I performed a backup of the applications I have via Titanium Backup, They'll work on 4.3 when I restore them right? or do you recommend downloading them from the play store again?
Sorry for being such a noob, and Thanks for your responses!
backup everything from your /sdcard to your computer, titanium backups and a nandroid
the google stock package is NOT flashable in CWM/TWRP
if you follow the GOOGLE instructions it WILL wipe your device (remember that backup you made of everything?)
alternatively you can make sure and have adb/fastboot working on your computer properly, extract all the files out of the zip (including the tar.gz located inside), and in recovery, do a factory reset, then boot to fastboot, fastboot flash system and boot ....
as for Titanium Backup, there is a work around to get it working on 4.3, but root is lacking full power.
Pirateghost said:
backup everything from your /sdcard to your computer, titanium backups and a nandroid
the google stock package is NOT flashable in CWM/TWRP
if you follow the GOOGLE instructions it WILL wipe your device (remember that backup you made of everything?)
alternatively you can make sure and have adb/fastboot working on your computer properly, extract all the files out of the zip (including the tar.gz located inside), and in recovery, do a factory reset, then boot to fastboot, fastboot flash system and boot ....
as for Titanium Backup, there is a work around to get it working on 4.3, but root is lacking full power.
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Thanks!
I'm now on Android 4.3
I'm full of excitement atm :victory:
I took a backup of my apps using titanium backup, I installed it but can't use it, it says I need root (which I already had before).
I read online somewhere that I need to root again, but I don't wanna lose all my data/ apps I installed again...
Any ideas?
If I use Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit... will I lose my data?
Thanks for the continued support!
AMKhatri said:
Thanks!
I'm now on Android 4.3
I'm full of excitement atm :victory:
I took a backup of my apps using titanium backup, I installed it but can't use it, it says I need root (which I already had before).
I read online somewhere that I need to root again, but I don't wanna lose all my data/ apps I installed again...
Any ideas?
If I use Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit... will I lose my data?
Thanks for the continued support!
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Seriously, how hard can it be for you people to waste 5, 5!!! minutes to browse the forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2377318
Thanks!
According to a friend's recommendation I used Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit to Root, and surprisingly didn't lose any of my data!
Once again, Thanks for all the help everyone... You've all been quite helpful.