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few noob questions after finally rooting

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I finally gave in and fully rooted my EVO and successfully flashed the newest damagecontrol rom. Afterwards, I took some time and set up my phone like how it used to be with the apps, settings, etc. Just a few questions from after this.
If I wanted to flash a different ROM, it is recommended to do a data wipe, correct? And also a NAND backup. Does this mean that my phone will be reset to factory settings again - using the new ROM as a base? In other words, would I have to rearrange my screens, settings, etc. if I wanted to try out a new ROM?
If not a different ROM, but an updated version of my current ROM, do I just flash that on top of what I have? (i.e. DC4.0 is released, do I have to wipe everything again before upgrading?)
If the answer is yes to both these questions, what are the easiest/quickest ways to get my phone looking/acting the way I like when getting a new ROM?

also, I followed toast's method step by step, and got the Amon Ra recovery on my phone as well. What is the function of this? Sorry for all the questions, I have everything working fine, but I'm just curious as to what and how things work on the phone. What is the difference between the amon ra recovery and following steps to use clockword for recovery?
Thanks a lot

baxtercat said:
Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I finally gave in and fully rooted my EVO and successfully flashed the newest damagecontrol rom. Afterwards, I took some time and set up my phone like how it used to be with the apps, settings, etc. Just a few questions from after this.
1. If I wanted to flash a different ROM, it is recommended to do a data wipe, correct? And also a NAND backup. Does this mean that my phone will be reset to factory settings again - using the new ROM as a base? In other words, would I have to rearrange my screens, settings, etc. if I wanted to try out a new ROM?
2. If not a different ROM, but an updated version of my current ROM, do I just flash that on top of what I have? (i.e. DC4.0 is released, do I have to wipe everything again before upgrading?)
If the answer is yes to both these questions, what are the easiest/quickest ways to get my phone looking/acting the way I like when getting a new ROM?
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baxtercat said:
also, I followed toast's method step by step, and got the Amon Ra recovery on my phone as well. What is the function of this? Sorry for all the questions, I have everything working fine, but I'm just curious as to what and how things work on the phone. What is the difference between the amon ra recovery and following steps to use clockword for recovery?
Thanks a lot
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Hello there, iv done videos on this rom for youtube, if you want the links let me know but ill go as it follows.
Ok, if you want to test out new roms, just do a nand backup of the one you have now, after that. WIPE both Factory and Delvic cache. Then flash the new rom in your phone adn you will be fine.
Ok, i know DC does this, i dont know about the others yet, But if a new update comes out, just flash that DC update over yours and it will be fine. All user data will be there. YOU shouldn't have boot loop ether. If so, then you will have to wipe again. I didn't and im fine. ( I use fresh evo right now. loving it. )
As for the NAND backup. This saves EVERYTHING so once you are tired of a old rom and wanna try another, just restory the back up and your fine.

super-6-1 said:
Hello there, iv done videos on this rom for youtube, if you want the links let me know but ill go as it follows.
Ok, if you want to test out new roms, just do a nand backup of the one you have now, after that. WIPE both Factory and Delvic cache. Then flash the new rom in your phone adn you will be fine.
Ok, i know DC does this, i dont know about the others yet, But if a new update comes out, just flash that DC update over yours and it will be fine. All user data will be there. YOU shouldn't have boot loop ether. If so, then you will have to wipe again. I didn't and im fine. ( I use fresh evo right now. loving it. )
As for the NAND backup. This saves EVERYTHING so once you are tired of a old rom and wanna try another, just restory the back up and your fine.
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply! That cleared up a lot of things for me.
So if I have everything set up the way I want, it is recommended to do a NAND backup at this point?
Also, what are the pros/cons of using Rom Manager (marketplace)?
Thanks a lot

baxtercat said:
Wow, thanks for the quick reply! That cleared up a lot of things for me.
So if I have everything set up the way I want, it is recommended to do a NAND backup at this point?
Also, what are the pros/cons of using Rom Manager (marketplace)?
Thanks a lot
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well if i was you, wait till you wanna flash something else THEN do a nand back up.
as far as rom manager goes, i dont use it. I just come on here and see whats new and what going on, you get a lot more from here then on rom manager, Plus, its free

super-6-1 said:
well if i was you, wait till you wanna flash something else THEN do a nand back up.
as far as rom manager goes, i dont use it. I just come on here and see whats new and what going on, you get a lot more from here then on rom manager, Plus, its free
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This is what I was thinking as well. Thanks
could you be kind enough to explain the different recovery files and their uses?

baxtercat said:
This is what I was thinking as well. Thanks
could you be kind enough to explain the different recovery files and their uses?
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what do you mean? like the different kinds of recoverys? Really i just stay with toasts, his is more stable and as far as the clockmod one, It has issues with formatting the Factory cashe.

Honestly, for someone that is completely new to flashing roms, backing up etc., Rom Mgr. is the best thing for you. You may not have the absolute cutting edge of available roms, but it makes flashing/backing up extremely easy and straightforward. That is how I got started with my previous Droid until I felt comfortable enough to flash the old fashion way. I have literally flashed and backed up hundreds of times using clockwork mod (rom manager recovery) and have not had a single issue. Plus, the app is only a couple bucks if I remembe correctly. I would start there to gain some experience, then move on to flashing zips from here.
just my opinion.

Will rom manager work if I have Amon RA's Recovery?

I think it may replace your recovery

[Q] I know you guys get sick of helping noob but I just rooted and need help!

I have been wanting to root and try a custom rom but I was scared of brick. Anyway I finally rooted with Unrevoked 3.3 which installed Clockwork recovery also and after that I installed rom manager. When I went to do a backup of current rom it said I need to install Clockwork recovery first but its there already. I know there is guides everywhere but thats the problem not sure which to use to learn what to do before I try flashing new rom. What about kernel I really don't understand where to go from here. I am rooted and Clockwork recovery flashed but don't know where to go from here. I am not a idiot just a little guidance please! I really want learn process of installing new and restoring old roms with my Evo. How do I know what other updates need to done before using a certain rom like kernel and radio? Thanks Alot To Anyone That Can Help A Fellow Android Lover!

You try reflashing clockwork recovery?
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No I just cheked to see if I could boot to recovery with vol/power buttons and seems fine Clockwork Recovery is there. So I should just let Rom Manager try to install Clockwork Recovery again? What would be my steps to installing new rom after I get rom manager to backup current rom? Thanks Alot!

Well first backup your rom and wimax keys and then go to the xda android development section and download a rom, clear cache /dalvik/ and I think its system restore something like that..I don't use cwr
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savannahmick said:
No I just cheked to see if I could boot to recovery with vol/power buttons and seems fine Clockwork Recovery is there. So I should just let Rom Manager try to install Clockwork Recovery again? What would be my steps to installing new rom after I get rom manager to backup current rom? Thanks Alot!
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Just dl rom go to rom manager
I think its install from memory card and rom manager takes care of the rest....you can also dl roms from this forum on ur phone it makes it easier
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First of all, if you're certain that your recovery is installed, then you need to decide what rom and what type of rom you want to install? For instance, do you want a Sense based rom (the HTC overlay that your EVO came with) or an AOSP rom (Pure Android like on the Nexus)? For a sense based rom, I suggest Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5. You can see photos of it as well as download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 and for an AOSP rom, I suggest Salvage-Mod 1.2.1. It can be downloaded from here: http://www.salvage-mod.com/node/4. Make sure you download the Google Applications from the same page. Whichever you decide to flash or any others, put them on your SD card. Now shutdown your device. Simultaneously press the DOWN volume button and the power button until your device starts. There will be a short pause and then a few lines of text will scroll across the screen. Afterwards, you will see a set of options. One of the options will be "recovery". By the way, look at the top of the screen and make sure it displays "S-OFF". If it displays "S-ON", you are not rooted. Anyway, select recovery. Your phone will vibrate and display a white EVO screen and then boot into recovery. Your recovery should be ClockworkMod. Go into the backup menu and select nandroid backup to make a backup of your current setup. You can always restore your device to the way it was if you don't like your new roms, mods, themes and kernels. After you've made your backup, go to the wipe menu and wipe everything except the SD card. After that, go to the flash zip menu and flash the rom you want to try. After it's finished, it should prompt you to reboot. Do so and be patient. You will appear to hang at a couple of places. Be patient. Let it finish. Be patient. Do not pull the battery. Be patient. After some time, you will see your rom's splash screen and then your new homescreen. If it is a sense based rom, go to menu-settings-system updates and select update profile after you've signed in with your Google credentials. Enjoy your new rom.
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dougjamal said:
First of all, if you're certain that your recovery is installed, then you need to decide what rom and what type of rom you want to install? For instance, do you want a Sense based rom (the HTC overlay that your EVO came with) or an AOSP rom (Pure Android like on the Nexus)? For a sense based rom, I suggest Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5. You can see photos of it as well as download it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471 and for an AOSP rom, I suggest Salvage-Mod 1.2.1. It can be downloaded from here: http://www.salvage-mod.com/node/4. Make sure you download the Google Applications from the same page. Whichever you decide to flash or any others, put them on your SD card. Now shutdown your device. Simultaneously press the DOWN volume button and the power button until your device starts. There will be a short pause and then a few lines of text will scroll across the screen. Afterwards, you will see a set of options. One of the options will be "recovery". By the way, look at the top of the screen and make sure it displays "S-OFF". If it displays "S-ON", you are not rooted. Anyway, select recovery. Your phone will vibrate and display a white EVO screen and then boot into recovery. Your recovery should be ClockworkMod. Go into the backup menu and select nandroid backup to make a backup of your current setup. You can always restore your device to the way it was if you don't like your new roms, mods, themes and kernels. After you've made your backup, go to the wipe menu and wipe everything except the SD card. After that, go to the flash zip menu and flash the rom you want to try. After it's finished, it should ask you to reboot. Do so and be patient. You will appear to hang at a couple of places. Be patient. Let it finish. Be patient. Do not pull the battery. Be patient. After some time, you will see your rom's splash screen and then your new homescreen. If it is a sense based rom, go to menu-settings-system updates and select update profile after you've signed in with your Google credentials. Enjoy your new rom.
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Yeah that's what I meant....I suck at instructions lol
Sent From My Evo4G Running Sense 3.0

One more thing I just let Rom Manager install recovery and after that I did backup. The next step would be to dl rom and place it in sd card right? Do I need to rename file or update kernel or radio and where do I put the new rom for manager to find? Also I didn't use Unrevoked forever just 3.3 will I need to run the forever app also? I know what a noob! Man I really Thank You for helping! I am dying to try some new roms Froyo is boring. What rom what rom do you recommend? Thanks Again!

droidguy718 said:
Yeah that's what I meant....I suck at instructions lol
Sent From My Evo4G Running Sense 3.0
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(Laughing)....no problem, my friend. We're all here to help. Take care...
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Root of card is preferred but anywhere is fine since you will have to point rom manager to it. Alot of roms come with kernels so I wouldn't sweat it. No need to rename. A good starting rom are any kingsroms insane fast and all features usually work most are still froyo but look much different than ur stock rom
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dougjamal said:
(Laughing)....no problem, my friend. We're all here to help. Take care...
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Wouldn't say I'm a noob but I'm moderately knowledgeable in the flash process, I use amon RA (much better in my opinion) but was never good at giving instruction or directions lol
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droidguy718 said:
Wouldn't say I'm a noob but I'm moderately knowledgeable in the flash process, I use amon RA (much better in my opinion) but was never good at giving instruction or directions lol
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I, too, use amon RA and love it. As for not giving good instructions, don't worry about it. There have been numerous times when I've given summarized instructions because I either assumed the OP knew what I was talking about or I was rushing because I had something else to do. The important thing to remember is that you helped. Period!...
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Thanks I am amazed how quick you helped me out! I am charging battery and then I will wipe and flash a rom with fingers crossed! I am a little scared I am not rich this is the only phone I have but you have a risk when doing any os changes with anything I guess! I will post results of first rom flash!

savannahmick said:
Thanks I am amazed how quick you helped me out! I am charging battery and then I will wipe and flash a rom with fingers crossed! I am a little scared I am not rich this is the only phone I have but you have a risk when doing any os changes with anything I guess! I will post results of first rom flash!
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Not to worry if u run into any problems there are many threads with instructions to unbrick or fix ur problem and people here are usually very quick to help that's why I love it here....and rom manager is very good at not making mistakes in the flash process I used it when I first started so ur in good hands
Sent From My Evo4G Running Sense 3.0

And another case of a ROM Manager mishap....

HipKat said:
And another case of a ROM Manager mishap....
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Hopefully, all will go well.
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One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!

Just d/l the latest version, put it on your sd card, reboot to recovery and flash it, then when you reboot to system, you'll get the prompt to go to the market and d/l each app.

savannahmick said:
One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!
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You can either flash it immediately after flashing Salvage-Mod or boot into Salvage-Mod first and then press and hold the power button until the menu appear
Select reboot and then select recovery. Once you're back into recovery, wipe cache & dalvik cache and then flash the Google applications (gapps). Afterwards, reboot.
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savannahmick said:
One last thing how do I install the google apps after rom flash? I think I am going to try Salavge-Mod 1.2.1. Last question for awhile I swear! THANKS AGAIN!
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-steps into the fray-
Well I first off wana say, you were in good hands with dougjamal.
To flash gapps:
1. Download the latest gapps / the ones provided in the salvage mod thread
2. Boot into recovery.
3. After you have flashed the salvage mod rom, wipe your cache and dalvik cache, then flash the gapps zip.

[Q] I want to change rom.. but how?

I'm flashed and rooted etc and i got a rom. And now i wanna change to another one but i cant find a good thread on how to do it..
Do i need to restore etc like the first time so i loose all my setting,apps etc?
Or can i just download one and install it from SDcard?
Sorry for my newb question.. i really dont wanna skrew things up on my phone just change rom
best regards

Download the ROM. Go to Clockwork Recovery, create a backup, then wipe data/cache and go to advanced -> dalvik cache and wipe that. Then install from .zip and find your rom

I presume you've already done a nandroid backup and titanium backup for your apps ? if your changing rom you will need to wipe data/reset in cwm so it will mean restoring your apps and setting up the phone again. then just flash the new rom like you did before with cwm. The rom you choose will probably have some install instructions anyway ? If your updating an existing rom to the new version you can generally just wipe cache and dalvic which means you wont need to setup the phone and apps again.
What you going from and to out of interest ? I'm running bigxies Apex and it really is good.......

joshnichols189 said:
Download the ROM. Go to Clockwork Recovery, create a backup, then wipe data/cache and go to advanced -> dalvik cache and wipe that. Then install from .zip and find your rom
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i havent made a backup of my apps i think. I used the toolkit to root the phone.. dunno if it does it.. i made some kind of backup..
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This is why people shouldn't just use the Toolkit and then post up BS questions. Learn what you're actually doing and how to do things, everyone else had to

EddyOS said:
This is why people shouldn't just use the Toolkit and then post up BS questions. Learn what you're actually doing and how to do things, everyone else had to
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Little harsh, but very true.
If you don't know how to do this basic stuff, playing with custom roms and such is a bit dangerous, and quite silly imho
It's not hard, read around the forums a bit, learn what your doing, then and ONLY then, begin to play with things that can turn your phone into an expensive paper weight
Rellikzephyr
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[Q] n00b at installing Roms, wanting to install JMTx2

Hi. This is my first time installing a rom onto my newly rooted t989. I wanted to do Jedi Mind Trick x2, but most of the instructions had me lost. I had rooted my phone using the instructions on galaxys2root.com, and they were so easy for me to do. They have a page for installing roms here: galaxys2root .com /t-mobile-galaxy-s2 /how-to-install-rom-on-rooted-t-mobile-galaxy-s2-sgh-t989/ but I didn't know if I could install JMT this way too. Any help would be great, as I really don't want to brick my phone. Thanks!

Dude I'm about a month ahead of you. I would install Rom toolbox and use that to install Twrp. I'm not a big fan of Rom tool box but they make it dam easy to install twrp. After that you're golden. Restart into twrp. Do a full backup and follow Ptmr3 instructions. After flashing I use app extractor to get my phone contacts, call logs,mms, app s and their data from the backup you made first. Hope this helps.
Ps Jedi mind trick is the best Rom I've come across by far
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I opus l said:
Dude I'm about a month ahead of you. Are you rooted? That's the big first step. After that I would install Rom toolbox and use that to install Twrp. I'm not a big fan of Rom tool box but they make dam easy to install twrp. After that you're golden. Restart into twrp. Do a full backup and follow Ptmr3 instructions. After flashing I use app extractor to get my phone contracts, call logs,mms, app s and their data from the backup you made first. Hope this helps.
Ps Jedi mind trick is the best Rom I've come across by far
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Awesome, thanks. I'll try that. A lot of the things that confused me were the "wipe system" and other things. The rooting was really easy (i was surprised) and I wanted to do it to install Jedi Mind Trick. Would you recommend x2 or x1? and what are the differences?

Yeah those are options in TWRP. Its to erase sections of the memory from the previous Rom. I had X1 and updated to X2. I have great battery with it after tweaking it, compared to 4.0.4 ROMs. Go X2. Hope everything works out

I opus l said:
Yeah those are options in TWRP. Its to erase sections of the memory from the previous Rom. I had X1 and updated to X2. I have great battery with it after tweaking it, compared to 4.0.4 ROMs. Go X2. Hope everything works out
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Okay, so I just got Rom Toolbox lite, and I'm trying to find where TWRP is. I have no idea what that even is. lol I'm so bad.

Okay, so I got the rom installed on the phone. Now I just have to figure it out and try and get my stuff back on. It looks like it is going okay so far.

go to the play store and search for "goomanager" after it's installed open it up. once your at the homescreen of that app hit the menu button on your phone (farthest button to the left) you should see "install OpenRecoveryScripts" click that let it download and it will automatically install for you. once it's installed turn off your device and turn it back on holding down the Volume up and down until the Recovery Menu appears. after that download your ROM and place it in your SDcard and follow these instructions to correctly flash a ROM.
I normally do...
Wipe Data/Factory reset
Wipe cache partition
install zip from sdcard
go to Advanced
Wipe dalvik cache
Wipe battery status
Fix permissions (just incase)
Reboot Device
wait about usually 3-8 minutes depends on the ROM. if it's longer then that then your stuck in a boot loop
this is all on done on CWMR v6.0.1.5

Newbie-Friendly Rom - Htc Desire

Hi,
I just bought HTC Desire (Htc_bravo) and Im quite unhappy with its bloatware. Im currently looking for some ROM and since it would be my first to flash, I need advice. What Rom is easy to flash and start living on (eg. market app included) with minimal chance of something going wrong (bricking mobile, boot-looping...) and with rather high battery life. Something to flash in a few minutes and live happily ever after. My needs are that of a common user. English localization is a must, working wifi is wanted. If manual how to flash this particular ROM is found somewhere, it would be great as well.
I was unable to find here a topic which answers my question completely.
Ty

Natik said:
Hi,
I just bought HTC Desire (Htc_bravo) and Im quite unhappy with its bloatware. Im currently looking for some ROM and since it would be my first to flash, I need advice. What Rom is easy to flash and start living on (eg. market app included) with minimal chance of something going wrong (bricking mobile, boot-looping...) and with rather high battery life. Something to flash in a few minutes and live happily ever after. My needs are that of a common user. English localization is a must, working wifi is wanted. If manual how to flash this particular ROM is found somewhere, it would be great as well.
I was unable to find here a topic which answers my question completely.
Ty
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Try MildWild. I have been using it for the past year, and it's fast and stable, with a simple launcher.
Don't worry, you won't brick your phone by simply flashing roms.
You are rooted, aren't you?
Then:
1. Download the rom, and put it on your sd-card.
2. Boot in recovery.
3. Do a Nandroid backup.
4. Do a full wipe (data, cache, dalvik cache, system, sd-ext) (Sd-ext is not the sd-card. If you don't know what that is, and want more storage space, check the partitioning guide in my sig.)
5. Select "Install from sd-card"
6. Wait.
7. Reboot.
8. Wait more (10 minutes)
9. Play with the rom.
If you don't like it, or something has gone wrong, then restore your nandroid backup.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
You are rooted, aren't you?
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Im afraid Im not.

Natik said:
Im afraid Im not.
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Oh boy, here we go again. You'll have to root and s-off before you do any rom installing.

UPDATE:
Rooted it, S-OFFed (Through CWM), partitioned (through 4EXT) succesfully. Im ready for flashing MW. However, I figured out, that those two (CWM and 4EXT) could be messing up , when both installed at the same time. Just dont know, how to uninstall CWM and if it is necessary. When I run Recovery mode, 4ext says, he is in safe-mode and that he doesnt have acces to "system" partition. Should I worry about that? There is every wipe available but system wipe.

anybody?

Natik said:
anybody?
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When it is in safe mode just wipe all except sdcard and reboot recovery then it will have access to all partitions
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Thanks guys. Its working flawlessly right now, lets see how long it will last...