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[Q] Kindle Fire Boot Question

I have recently installed Reloaded's CM9 on my Kindle Fire correctly, rooting first and using KFU. Everything went smoothly, but the other day my battery ran out, and now, whenever i'm charging it, whether it's from the laptop or from an outlet, the red triangle with the fire inside it blimps on screen and nothing happens. When it's disconnected from power, it won't start, won't do anything, and the power button won't turn it on. What does the yellow triangle blimp mean, a discharged battery, bootloop, is something else wrong?
Thanks.

Luppertazzi said:
I have recently installed Reloaded's CM9 on my Kindle Fire correctly, rooting first and using KFU. Everything went smoothly, but the other day my battery ran out, and now, whenever i'm charging it, whether it's from the laptop or from an outlet, the red triangle with the fire inside it blimps on screen and nothing happens. When it's disconnected from power, it won't start, won't do anything, and the power button won't turn it on. What does the yellow triangle blimp mean, a discharged battery, bootloop, is something else wrong?
Thanks.
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Red triangle? Blimp?
Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244

Yellow triangle, blimp. It's now on the wall outlet, charging with the original AC but it still blimps with the yellow triangle. I can't get it turned off by holding the power button for 30+ seconds, nothing happens, just keeps blimping even when in the power outlet. When it's off, it's off and doesn't respond to anything. It says "press power button to enter recovery" but when i press it, nothing. Just blimping.

Luppertazzi said:
Yellow triangle, blimp. It's now on the wall outlet, charging with the original AC but it still blimps with the yellow triangle. I can't get it turned off by holding the power button for 30+ seconds, nothing happens, just keeps blimping even when in the power outlet. When it's off, it's off and doesn't respond to anything. It says "press power button to enter recovery" but when i press it, nothing. Just blimping.
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I gave you a link to a guide that fully explains what's going on and why "nothing happens." It also gives you a suggestions on what usually works and if it doesn't, the next thing you should attempt in order to fix your problem. If you don't want to try that, you can crack your case open, pull out the battery, find a charger that will charge it offline and stick it back in there.

Luppertazzi said:
Yellow triangle, blimp. It's now on the wall outlet, charging with the original AC but it still blimps with the yellow triangle. I can't get it turned off by holding the power button for 30+ seconds, nothing happens, just keeps blimping even when in the power outlet. When it's off, it's off and doesn't respond to anything. It says "press power button to enter recovery" but when i press it, nothing. Just blimping.
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Never let your battery complety drain with the new kernel.
Try this:
1. Overnight charge with an iPhone charger (even the Kindle show yellow triangle).
2. If above method won't work,
Extract the kernel from stock firmware (get it from amazon)
Flash the kernel in fastboot (yellow triangle)
Reboot
Charge with wall charger at least 4 hours.
If you're lucky then you can flash Hascode #8 kernel, wipe cache/dalvik and boot normally.

Is it charging even when the yellow blip is on from a wall outlet?

Sorry for the double post.
This new 1.4a bootloader looks like a chance worth taking. Problem is, i can't get into recovery to flash the .zip.
I left it overnight to charge from the wall OEM charger, nothing. Still yellow triangle flashing. It tells me to push power button to get it to recovery but whatever i do or however long i push it it's unusable.
Any other suggestions on how to solve it? I can't use the power button as it's useless and can't get it to recovery. My PC won't recognize it either.

Luppertazzi said:
Sorry for the double post.
This new 1.4a bootloader looks like a chance worth taking. Problem is, i can't get into recovery to flash the .zip.
I left it overnight to charge from the wall OEM charger, nothing. Still yellow triangle flashing. It tells me to push power button to get it to recovery but whatever i do or however long i push it it's unusable.
Any other suggestions on how to solve it? I can't use the power button as it's useless and can't get it to recovery. My PC won't recognize it either.
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Unzip the archive and extract the .bin file inside it.
Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
with emphasis on post #3 to learn how to use fastboot.
Then you'll want to get the device into fastboot mode by issuing a command like...
Code:
fastboot getvar product
and then rebooting the KF. The post above will tell you what to look for when you manage to get it into fastboot mode. It will also tell you how to flash the .bin file you extracted from the .zip file and tell you how to change bootmodes if necessary. Also read the OP for FFF 1.4 for details on how to use your new bootloader.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-labs/146492-how-why-make-your-own-motorola-factory-cable.html

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-labs/146492-how-why-make-your-own-motorola-factory-cable.html
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All due respect to all of you, quit giving me links and how-to's that i already read. My problem is unique and i will take my time to describe it one more time, so maybe one of you can actually help.
Kindle fire got discharged completely. Now, whenever it's plugged into a computer or a power outlet, i get a flashing yellow triangle, urging me to hit power button to get into recovery. I hit power button, does nothing. Keep it pressed for hours, does nothing, just the stupid blimp. From what i understand, i need to get the device into fastboot in order to flash a new bootloader, like the 1.4a. Here's where the problem comes in. I have ADB and SDK and whatever else installed correctly, even fastboot and KFU. I have tried one suggestion of a user urging me to write the fastboot commands:
Type or paste the command, fastboot flash bootloader fff-u-boot_v1.4a.bin, when you see <waiting for device>, turn the KF on.
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This basically meant i should keep my KF unplugged from the PC, write that command and when it's waiting for device, plug it in. It didn't work, it keeps on Waiting for Device and that's it. My Kindle Fire is not recognized by my PC. If it would have worked, just when i plugged in my Kindle Fire it should have executed the flash in that split second it was in fastboot mode and it should have rebooted.
I have tried putting it in fastboot mode over KFU, but the ADB is OFFLINE and my Kindle isn't recognized by my PC.
What else on God's green earth can i try to make sense of all this mess?

Luppertazzi said:
All due respect to all of you, quit giving me links and how-to's that i already read. My problem is unique and i will take my time to describe it one more time, so maybe one of you can actually help.
Kindle fire got discharged completely. Now, whenever it's plugged into a computer or a power outlet, i get a flashing yellow triangle, urging me to hit power button to get into recovery. I hit power button, does nothing. Keep it pressed for hours, does nothing, just the stupid blimp. From what i understand, i need to get the device into fastboot in order to flash a new bootloader, like the 1.4a. Here's where the problem comes in. I have ADB and SDK and whatever else installed correctly, even fastboot and KFU. I have tried one suggestion of a user urging me to write the fastboot commands:
This basically meant i should keep my KF unplugged from the PC, write that command and when it's waiting for device, plug it in. It didn't work, it keeps on Waiting for Device and that's it. My Kindle Fire is not recognized by my PC. If it would have worked, just when i plugged in my Kindle Fire it should have executed the flash in that split second it was in fastboot mode and it should have rebooted.
I have tried putting it in fastboot mode over KFU, but the ADB is OFFLINE and my Kindle isn't recognized by my PC.
What else on God's green earth can i try to make sense of all this mess?
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With "all due respect" there is absolutely NOTHING about your situation that is unique. I see 15 people with the same exact problem every day. As a matter of fact, it is so NOT unique, that kinfauns had to take the time to write up a small explanation for it.
If you had this so-called "all due respect" you would take into consideration the fact that some of the more experienced users here might actually know what they're talking about. We gain nothing from helping you, remember that.
Your problem is quite simple. Your battery is dead or close to it. Your device doesn't have enough power to boot far enough to start the charging process. The link kinfauns gave you, tells you that explicitly. He offers a few tips on how to fix your problem. But depending on how dead your battery is, they might not always work.
Hence the links I gave you. I gave you information on a "factory cable", its purpose, when you might need one, and how to purchase/make one. Right there is all the information you need to fix your problem. Go back and read the links given to you. Only this time, make sure you understand them before making another presumptive comment.

soupmagnet said:
With "all due respect" there is absolutely NOTHING about your situation that is unique. I see 15 people with the same exact problem every day. As a matter of fact, it is so NOT unique, that kinfauns had to take the time to write up a small explanation for it.
If you had this so-called "all due respect" you would take into consideration the fact that some of the more experienced users here might actually know what they're talking about. We gain nothing from helping you, remember that.
Your problem is quite simple. Your battery is dead or close to it. Your device doesn't have enough power to boot far enough to start the charging process. The link kinfauns gave you, tells you that explicitly. He offers a few tips on how to fix your problem. But depending on how dead your battery is, they might not always work.
Hence the links I gave you. I gave you information on a "factory cable", its purpose, when you might need one, and how to purchase/make one. Right there is all the information you need to fix your problem. Go back and read the links given to you. Only this time, make sure you understand them before making another presumptive comment.
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And after reading all that information, which i did, carefully, and trying to understand all of this, the only option i might have is a factory cable to get it into fastboot mode? What about the temporary fastboot, can i profit from that or try to at least?
My main issue is the ADB is offline and i can't get it into fastboot via KFU, shouldn't it be recognized as online nonetheless?
Everybody keeps mentioning the original AC charger, flashing to stock, flashing FFF 1.4a, but i can't even get it to fastboot, recovery is a longshot. How am i supposed to fix this if all the solutions given reffer to fastboot or TWRP, both of which i cannot access?

You already tried temporary fastboot when you turned your Kindle on after seeing "waiting for device".
You can mess around with your drivers to see if you can get it to connect... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671 ...I think it's unlikely, but definitely not impossible.

soupmagnet said:
You already tried temporary fastboot when you turned your Kindle on after seeing "waiting for device".
You can mess around with your drivers to see if you can get it to connect... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671 ...I think it's unlikely, but definitely not impossible.
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Okay, thank you, that's all i wanted to know. I thought my situation was different because ADB kept showing OFFLINE and i couldn't speculate the temporary fastboot or the normal fastboot. If you're saying this is normal when the battery's dead then okay.
I guess i'm buying a factory cable. One last question. When that cable does get in my hands, all i have to do is plug it in my laptop USB port, then into my kindle, gaining automatic fastboot, and then write:
fastboot flash bootloader fff-u-boot_v1.4a.bin
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fastboot reboot
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and it should have flashed to the newest 1.4a that bypasses this problem, correct?

Yes, assuming your drivers are in good working order.

When I try to troubleshoot someone else's problem, I do my best to understand what it is that they don't understand. Now, I finally see the reason why you are so resistant to trying my suggestions... When the bootloader says "press power button for recovery" it's not URGING you to do anything. It's SUGGESTING and providing a reminder of how to get to recovery. It's like a road sign that says "exit here for rest stop." Whether or not you pass that point with a full bladder, that reminder is ALWAYS there. It has nothing to do with your present situation.
I think you've been convinced that you need to get into fastboot mode. You can follow my previous instructions and send that command during temporary fastboot. If you are successful, it will stop the temporary fastboot countdown and stay in fastboot mode. You can get the factory cable and that will automatically put you in fastboot mode, but you are still going to have to be able to send it fastboot commands anyway. In either case, you'll have to fix whatever is keeping your computer from sending fastboot commands to the device and that's almost always the device drivers. The only difference between my suggestion and soupmagnet's is the factory cable's ability to automatically keep you in fastboot mode so you have more of an opportunity to diagnose the problem.

[Q] Is the yellow triangle a stock screen?

Is the yellow triangle ('press power for recovery options') a stock KF screen, or is the something that's been added by the KFU? Amazon said they would send a replacement, but I'm wondering if I'll have issues if they see it's been rooted...
Update 6.3.1 has left me on this screen, and as of yet I have not been able to get around it. The computer will only recognize it for about 5 seconds when it is plugged in, but then the LED on the KF goes Orange and it disconnects.
I'm looking at getting the factory cable.
Unfortunantly when I ran the KFU I did not install any other recovery options other than rooting the device. (Crossing over from the jailbreaking on the iPhones, you could get the device is recovery without any big deal and I assumed it was the same with the KF...oops)

Turn your Kindle off.
Turn your Kindle on.
As soon as you see the yellow triangle, hold the power button until it turns orange. This will boot your device into recovery.
While in recovery, look for an option to mount your sdcard.
When it is mounted, it will show up on your computer as an external drive.
From your computer, transfer the "Flash.zip" from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25598837 ...to your sdcard.
Then use recovery to flash "Flash.zip" and reboot.
When it reboots, hold the power button until it turns orange again and use the selections at the bottom to change your bootmode. To scroll through the selections hold the power button for a second and release. When you have the right option selected, leave it alone for a few moments and it will select automatically. You may need to reboot.

Avidmtbiker said:
Is the yellow triangle ('press power for recovery options') a stock KF screen, or is the something that's been added by the KFU?
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This is not the stock boot loader screen, it is an older version of FireFireFire.

soupmagnet said:
Turn your Kindle off.
Turn your Kindle on.
As soon as you see the yellow triangle, hold the power button until it turns orange. This will boot your device into recovery.
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I've done this...
But there's no response from the KF, the screen doesn't change. The LED does go Orange, but it would anyway - even without pressing the button.
The computer is unable to recognize it at this point.
As of now it seems only to turn on whenever the USB cable is plugged in, I'm guessing the battery is dead.
Any more suggestions? I'm leary of sending it back in with modded software, I imagine they're smart enough to check that...

Ah, so you don't even have recovery installed. I guess I should have seen that in the OP...I'm such a noob <hangs head in shame>
OK the first thing you need to do is educate yourself a little bit about the Kindle Fire, the different bootmodes, and the difference between adb and fastboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747567
Then you need make sure your drivers are in good working order:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
When you have a good foundation to work from, we'll get recovery installed and continue to fix any other problems you need help with.

Wipe everything

I want to wipe everything off my Kindle including the recovery and bootloader, is there a command I can issue to do this? (I'll be using firekit /w the short trick and adb push to reinstall my rom/bootloader/recovery)

I can't even begin to tell you why that's a bad idea and completely unnecessary.
Do you mind me asking what you are trying to accomplish with this and why you think it's necessary?

I had the old version of TWRP and bricked my Kindle, I got it to load the new version of TWRP with firekit and it unbricked my Kindle. Next, I set boot mode to normal because I wanted to flash a new rom, however then I got the blinking yellow triangle of death again, I ran usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp (how I unbricked it before) and shorted it but this time it didn't work and I got the blinking triangle again. So I though if it worked before with new version of TWRP maybe if I removed it completely and the re-ran "usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp" it would unbrick my Kindle again
Sorry for the long explanation

Oh I forgot, The reason I put it back in normal mode is because I thought I fixed everything and thought the battery would begin to recharge again, so I figured just downloading the rom to kindle itself would be easier than using adb push to transfer it from my computer, but then I couldn't even get back to twrp after the first time

The blinking triangle is due to a dead battery, not the bootloader installation.
Unplug the device and hold the power button until it shuts down completely.
Plug the device into your computer's USB (2.0) port and immediately hold the power button until it shuts off again.
If you can get it to shut down without starting up again, leave it plugged in for at least half a day to let it charge.

aullys and
I'll try that, thank-you

Wiped my SD card

I was rooting my Fire again (been rooted a while back). I got TWRP installed and was going to install Jelly Bean. Doing the wipe and accidentally wiped the SD card. So my backup of 6.3.1 is gone and my kindle has no ROM. I can boot into TWRP, but the kindle won't connect via USB to my computer. I just need to load a ROM on there and I'll be good.
Anyone have any ideas how to load a ROM on via USB? Is there some way to trick it? I can see the kindle as the G:\ drive, but it's grayed out and says to "insert disk".
Help! Please!
Brian

So...you're unable to mount your sdcard while in TWRP...using the "Mount" function?

soupmagnet said:
So...you're unable to mount your sdcard while in TWRP...using the "Mount" function?
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I have no TWRP now. I deleted that too. It just boots up to the yellow triangle with the flame in the middle.

BriDroid-74 said:
I have no TWRP now. I deleted that too. It just boots up to the yellow triangle with the flame in the middle.
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You did not delete TWRP while in TWRP...only the TWRP folder that sits on your sdcard. Do you know how to access TWRP using the power button at startup?

soupmagnet said:
You did not delete TWRP while in TWRP...only the TWRP folder that sits on your sdcard. Do you know how to access TWRP using the power button at startup?
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Yes, I tried to root it again using the method on rootkindlefire. It just hung up. I was thinking it would reinstall everything.
Now my PC doesn't even recognize the fire. The LED under the power button just stays green, pressing it doesn't allow it into TWRP at all.
I think I really screwed this thing up

BriDroid-74 said:
I think I really screwed this thing up
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doubtful
Yes, I tried to root it again using the method on rootkindlefire. It just hung up. I was thinking it would reinstall everything.
Now my PC doesn't even recognize the fire. The LED under the power button just stays green, pressing it doesn't allow it into TWRP at all.
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Okay. Hold the power button until the device shuts off.
Then, press the power button to power it on again and press and hold until the light turns orange and release.
Does that give you access to TWRP or does the light never turn orange and the device shuts down?

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doubtful
Okay. Hold the power button until the device shuts off.
Then, press the power button to power it on again and press and hold until the light turns orange and release.
Does that give you access to TWRP or does the light never turn orange and the device shuts down?
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Stays green and just shuts down.

I have wiped my sdcard multiple different times multiple different ways and have never had any issues with accessing TWRP. Get a factory cable force it into fastboot and re-Install TWRP that`s probably your best bet.

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Okay. Hold the power button until the device shuts off.
Then, press the power button to power it on again and press and hold until the light turns orange and release.
Does that give you access to TWRP or does the light never turn orange and the device shuts down?
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Thanks for all the help! I used your soup program for Linux and was able to reload TWRP on my fire. In fact, I'm typing this on it now. Thanks for all your help!

BriDroid-74 said:
Thanks for all the help! I used your soup program for Linux and was able to reload TWRP on my fire. In fact, I'm typing this on it now. Thanks for all your help!
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Good deal. I'm glad it worked for you.

[Q] Kindle Fire powers on, flashes and shuts down

I have come into my possession a Kindle Fire 1st generation. When I got it, the youngster said it was “hacked for the Amazon App Store”… and the battery was dead. I traded an older laptop for it. I put it on a charger for a day or so and left it. It would boot to the “Stock” logo for several seconds, then the backlight would go slightly brighter and it would shut off.
I started reading up about some of the power-on issues around the web. I found most of my answers on “xda-developers.com” for my TF101 so I gravitated here.
Here is what I’ve done so far:
1. Acquired a factory cable... SO useful.
2. Flashed FFF v1.4a and TWRP v2.4.4.0
3. Played around with fastboot.exe commands -update, flash, erase, getvar, reboot, help
4. Flashed a stock bootloader and recovery… trying to get it to charge.
5. Disassembled and tested battery voltage… 4.10VDC on a 3.7V battery. That sounds good to me.
6. Tried the firekit boot from Live-USB. Won’t stay powered on.
Right now, I’ve flashed the FFF 1.4a and TWRP v2.5. What happens is, in normal boot, the fire boots to the FFF logo (White &Blue) goes to “Booting” and the power switch LED gets slightly brighter, then the backlight goes slightly brighter and the whole thing shuts off. If I push power to go to recovery, the fire shows “Booting.” Then, the power switch goes orange, then it goes off, then the whole thing shuts down. I cannot do any ADB commands because the Fire will not stay powered on in that mode. The factory cable keeps it powered on, but I’m stuck with fastboot.exe commands in that mode.
I do not have a stock charger. I’ve been using my charger from my TF101 and a cable from my phone or the factory cable. I’ve been futzing around with this thing for a few weeks and would like some input. I haven’t found an identical issue so I’ve decided to create a thread.
I’m wondering if I have a bad gate on the memory chip… I’ve seen desktops and laptops shut down with bad memory in the past. I’m reasonably savvy with a command prompt and not afraid to crack a box.

Hold the power button until the device shuts off completely. Plug it in to your USB cable power source (not the factory cable), and let it power on automatically. Immediately after it starts to power on, hold the power button to shut it off again. Let it charge in this state for a few hours and try to boot into recovery again.

soupmagnet said:
Hold the power button until the device shuts off completely. Plug it in to your USB cable power source (not the factory cable), and let it power on automatically. Immediately after it starts to power on, hold the power button to shut it off again. Let it charge in this state for a few hours and try to boot into recovery again.
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Thank you Soupmagnet. I've done this and let it sit for a weekend... sorry I didn't mention it before. With a voltage reading of 4.1, I think I have a full charge (by the way, it doesn't drop over a day or so). You can be assured that I've tried most everything before posting. Please be gentle if I didn't state it previously
One of my issues is I can't get to anything on the fire itself. Even with the factory cable, is shuts off if I choose to continue... hold the power button and choose recovery, normal, reset boot mode. Is it supposed to be able to go to recovery when the factory cable is connected? It only stays powered if I leave it at the FFF logo.

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Thank you Soupmagnet. I've done this and let it sit for a weekend... sorry I didn't mention it before. With a voltage reading of 4.1, I think I have a full charge (by the way, it doesn't drop over a day or so). You can be assured that I've tried most everything before posting. Please be gentle if I didn't state it previously
One of my issues is I can't get to anything on the fire itself. Even with the factory cable, is shuts off if I choose to continue... hold the power button and choose recovery, normal, reset boot mode. Is it supposed to be able to go to recovery when the factory cable is connected? It only stays powered if I leave it at the FFF logo.
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What command did you use to install TWRP?

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What command did you use to install TWRP?
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Fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery c:\KFU\recovery\twrp.img.
This is after I renamed the v2.4.4.0 file to old_twrp.img and downloaded the v2.5 that I found last Friday. Previously, i'd used the KFU. Last week I played around with flashing different bootloader and recovery to see if I could get it past the FFF or stock. At this point it's a challenge to get it to go further than FFF.

pmrmx774 said:
Fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery c:\KFU\recovery\twrp.img.
This is after I renamed the v2.4.4.0 file to old_twrp.img and downloaded the v2.5 that I found last Friday. Previously, i'd used the KFU. Last week I played around with flashing different bootloader and recovery to see if I could get it past the FFF or stock. At this point it's a challenge to get it to go further than FFF.
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Use fastboot to flash this to your system partition and see if you can boot normally.... http://d-h.st/NzN

Perhaps it is hardware, not software
Just had a very similar issue. Turned out to be stupid simple.
Use spudgers to gently take the back off the case (a small flathead screwdriver should do the trick). then check the connection between the battery and the motherboard. In my case, my daughter had dropped it enough times that the connection was not all the way out but not enough in. This caused the exact behavior you are describing. Took me 2 minutes to fuss with once I got motivated.
Jon