I have recently installed Reloaded's CM9 on my Kindle Fire correctly, rooting first and using KFU. Everything went smoothly, but the other day my battery ran out, and now, whenever i'm charging it, whether it's from the laptop or from an outlet, the red triangle with the fire inside it blimps on screen and nothing happens. When it's disconnected from power, it won't start, won't do anything, and the power button won't turn it on. What does the yellow triangle blimp mean, a discharged battery, bootloop, is something else wrong?
Thanks.
Luppertazzi said:
I have recently installed Reloaded's CM9 on my Kindle Fire correctly, rooting first and using KFU. Everything went smoothly, but the other day my battery ran out, and now, whenever i'm charging it, whether it's from the laptop or from an outlet, the red triangle with the fire inside it blimps on screen and nothing happens. When it's disconnected from power, it won't start, won't do anything, and the power button won't turn it on. What does the yellow triangle blimp mean, a discharged battery, bootloop, is something else wrong?
Thanks.
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Red triangle? Blimp?
Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
Yellow triangle, blimp. It's now on the wall outlet, charging with the original AC but it still blimps with the yellow triangle. I can't get it turned off by holding the power button for 30+ seconds, nothing happens, just keeps blimping even when in the power outlet. When it's off, it's off and doesn't respond to anything. It says "press power button to enter recovery" but when i press it, nothing. Just blimping.
Luppertazzi said:
Yellow triangle, blimp. It's now on the wall outlet, charging with the original AC but it still blimps with the yellow triangle. I can't get it turned off by holding the power button for 30+ seconds, nothing happens, just keeps blimping even when in the power outlet. When it's off, it's off and doesn't respond to anything. It says "press power button to enter recovery" but when i press it, nothing. Just blimping.
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I gave you a link to a guide that fully explains what's going on and why "nothing happens." It also gives you a suggestions on what usually works and if it doesn't, the next thing you should attempt in order to fix your problem. If you don't want to try that, you can crack your case open, pull out the battery, find a charger that will charge it offline and stick it back in there.
Luppertazzi said:
Yellow triangle, blimp. It's now on the wall outlet, charging with the original AC but it still blimps with the yellow triangle. I can't get it turned off by holding the power button for 30+ seconds, nothing happens, just keeps blimping even when in the power outlet. When it's off, it's off and doesn't respond to anything. It says "press power button to enter recovery" but when i press it, nothing. Just blimping.
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Never let your battery complety drain with the new kernel.
Try this:
1. Overnight charge with an iPhone charger (even the Kindle show yellow triangle).
2. If above method won't work,
Extract the kernel from stock firmware (get it from amazon)
Flash the kernel in fastboot (yellow triangle)
Reboot
Charge with wall charger at least 4 hours.
If you're lucky then you can flash Hascode #8 kernel, wipe cache/dalvik and boot normally.
Is it charging even when the yellow blip is on from a wall outlet?
Sorry for the double post.
This new 1.4a bootloader looks like a chance worth taking. Problem is, i can't get into recovery to flash the .zip.
I left it overnight to charge from the wall OEM charger, nothing. Still yellow triangle flashing. It tells me to push power button to get it to recovery but whatever i do or however long i push it it's unusable.
Any other suggestions on how to solve it? I can't use the power button as it's useless and can't get it to recovery. My PC won't recognize it either.
Luppertazzi said:
Sorry for the double post.
This new 1.4a bootloader looks like a chance worth taking. Problem is, i can't get into recovery to flash the .zip.
I left it overnight to charge from the wall OEM charger, nothing. Still yellow triangle flashing. It tells me to push power button to get it to recovery but whatever i do or however long i push it it's unusable.
Any other suggestions on how to solve it? I can't use the power button as it's useless and can't get it to recovery. My PC won't recognize it either.
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Unzip the archive and extract the .bin file inside it.
Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
with emphasis on post #3 to learn how to use fastboot.
Then you'll want to get the device into fastboot mode by issuing a command like...
Code:
fastboot getvar product
and then rebooting the KF. The post above will tell you what to look for when you manage to get it into fastboot mode. It will also tell you how to flash the .bin file you extracted from the .zip file and tell you how to change bootmodes if necessary. Also read the OP for FFF 1.4 for details on how to use your new bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-labs/146492-how-why-make-your-own-motorola-factory-cable.html
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-labs/146492-how-why-make-your-own-motorola-factory-cable.html
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All due respect to all of you, quit giving me links and how-to's that i already read. My problem is unique and i will take my time to describe it one more time, so maybe one of you can actually help.
Kindle fire got discharged completely. Now, whenever it's plugged into a computer or a power outlet, i get a flashing yellow triangle, urging me to hit power button to get into recovery. I hit power button, does nothing. Keep it pressed for hours, does nothing, just the stupid blimp. From what i understand, i need to get the device into fastboot in order to flash a new bootloader, like the 1.4a. Here's where the problem comes in. I have ADB and SDK and whatever else installed correctly, even fastboot and KFU. I have tried one suggestion of a user urging me to write the fastboot commands:
Type or paste the command, fastboot flash bootloader fff-u-boot_v1.4a.bin, when you see <waiting for device>, turn the KF on.
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This basically meant i should keep my KF unplugged from the PC, write that command and when it's waiting for device, plug it in. It didn't work, it keeps on Waiting for Device and that's it. My Kindle Fire is not recognized by my PC. If it would have worked, just when i plugged in my Kindle Fire it should have executed the flash in that split second it was in fastboot mode and it should have rebooted.
I have tried putting it in fastboot mode over KFU, but the ADB is OFFLINE and my Kindle isn't recognized by my PC.
What else on God's green earth can i try to make sense of all this mess?
Luppertazzi said:
All due respect to all of you, quit giving me links and how-to's that i already read. My problem is unique and i will take my time to describe it one more time, so maybe one of you can actually help.
Kindle fire got discharged completely. Now, whenever it's plugged into a computer or a power outlet, i get a flashing yellow triangle, urging me to hit power button to get into recovery. I hit power button, does nothing. Keep it pressed for hours, does nothing, just the stupid blimp. From what i understand, i need to get the device into fastboot in order to flash a new bootloader, like the 1.4a. Here's where the problem comes in. I have ADB and SDK and whatever else installed correctly, even fastboot and KFU. I have tried one suggestion of a user urging me to write the fastboot commands:
This basically meant i should keep my KF unplugged from the PC, write that command and when it's waiting for device, plug it in. It didn't work, it keeps on Waiting for Device and that's it. My Kindle Fire is not recognized by my PC. If it would have worked, just when i plugged in my Kindle Fire it should have executed the flash in that split second it was in fastboot mode and it should have rebooted.
I have tried putting it in fastboot mode over KFU, but the ADB is OFFLINE and my Kindle isn't recognized by my PC.
What else on God's green earth can i try to make sense of all this mess?
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With "all due respect" there is absolutely NOTHING about your situation that is unique. I see 15 people with the same exact problem every day. As a matter of fact, it is so NOT unique, that kinfauns had to take the time to write up a small explanation for it.
If you had this so-called "all due respect" you would take into consideration the fact that some of the more experienced users here might actually know what they're talking about. We gain nothing from helping you, remember that.
Your problem is quite simple. Your battery is dead or close to it. Your device doesn't have enough power to boot far enough to start the charging process. The link kinfauns gave you, tells you that explicitly. He offers a few tips on how to fix your problem. But depending on how dead your battery is, they might not always work.
Hence the links I gave you. I gave you information on a "factory cable", its purpose, when you might need one, and how to purchase/make one. Right there is all the information you need to fix your problem. Go back and read the links given to you. Only this time, make sure you understand them before making another presumptive comment.
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With "all due respect" there is absolutely NOTHING about your situation that is unique. I see 15 people with the same exact problem every day. As a matter of fact, it is so NOT unique, that kinfauns had to take the time to write up a small explanation for it.
If you had this so-called "all due respect" you would take into consideration the fact that some of the more experienced users here might actually know what they're talking about. We gain nothing from helping you, remember that.
Your problem is quite simple. Your battery is dead or close to it. Your device doesn't have enough power to boot far enough to start the charging process. The link kinfauns gave you, tells you that explicitly. He offers a few tips on how to fix your problem. But depending on how dead your battery is, they might not always work.
Hence the links I gave you. I gave you information on a "factory cable", its purpose, when you might need one, and how to purchase/make one. Right there is all the information you need to fix your problem. Go back and read the links given to you. Only this time, make sure you understand them before making another presumptive comment.
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And after reading all that information, which i did, carefully, and trying to understand all of this, the only option i might have is a factory cable to get it into fastboot mode? What about the temporary fastboot, can i profit from that or try to at least?
My main issue is the ADB is offline and i can't get it into fastboot via KFU, shouldn't it be recognized as online nonetheless?
Everybody keeps mentioning the original AC charger, flashing to stock, flashing FFF 1.4a, but i can't even get it to fastboot, recovery is a longshot. How am i supposed to fix this if all the solutions given reffer to fastboot or TWRP, both of which i cannot access?
You already tried temporary fastboot when you turned your Kindle on after seeing "waiting for device".
You can mess around with your drivers to see if you can get it to connect... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671 ...I think it's unlikely, but definitely not impossible.
soupmagnet said:
You already tried temporary fastboot when you turned your Kindle on after seeing "waiting for device".
You can mess around with your drivers to see if you can get it to connect... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671 ...I think it's unlikely, but definitely not impossible.
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Okay, thank you, that's all i wanted to know. I thought my situation was different because ADB kept showing OFFLINE and i couldn't speculate the temporary fastboot or the normal fastboot. If you're saying this is normal when the battery's dead then okay.
I guess i'm buying a factory cable. One last question. When that cable does get in my hands, all i have to do is plug it in my laptop USB port, then into my kindle, gaining automatic fastboot, and then write:
fastboot flash bootloader fff-u-boot_v1.4a.bin
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fastboot reboot
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and it should have flashed to the newest 1.4a that bypasses this problem, correct?
Yes, assuming your drivers are in good working order.
When I try to troubleshoot someone else's problem, I do my best to understand what it is that they don't understand. Now, I finally see the reason why you are so resistant to trying my suggestions... When the bootloader says "press power button for recovery" it's not URGING you to do anything. It's SUGGESTING and providing a reminder of how to get to recovery. It's like a road sign that says "exit here for rest stop." Whether or not you pass that point with a full bladder, that reminder is ALWAYS there. It has nothing to do with your present situation.
I think you've been convinced that you need to get into fastboot mode. You can follow my previous instructions and send that command during temporary fastboot. If you are successful, it will stop the temporary fastboot countdown and stay in fastboot mode. You can get the factory cable and that will automatically put you in fastboot mode, but you are still going to have to be able to send it fastboot commands anyway. In either case, you'll have to fix whatever is keeping your computer from sending fastboot commands to the device and that's almost always the device drivers. The only difference between my suggestion and soupmagnet's is the factory cable's ability to automatically keep you in fastboot mode so you have more of an opportunity to diagnose the problem.
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About 3 weeks ago, I bricked my Kindle Fire. It was a "spare" that I had, so I started messing around with it. Got TWRP installed, downloaded a couple of ROMS, and attempted to install them. (fortunately, I made a backup of my base Amazon 6.2)
To make a long story short, the fire got stuck. I was able to adb and various other things on this forum to keep things going, but after a while, Kindle Fire Utility (adb, nothing) could see the device. I thought for sure I had an expensive paper weight.
Enter the factory cable. Because SkOrPn was in the middle of a move, my cable didn't get here right away. Then there were some issues with my PayPal address, which SkOrPn went out of his way to fix. Today, I got the cable at my office.
Looked at the cable. Thought I had been send an unmodified cable. Saw no evidence that anything had been done to the cable. An absolutely perfect professional job.
Couldn't wait to get home. Got home. Plugged cable in Fire, then in Laptop. Nothing. Now what? I thought it was supposed to boot the bootloader? adb didn't see the device. Drivers good, it sees my other Fire. I guess I was one of those 1% that hard brick the fire with no chance of getting it back.
Did a few searched on the forum. Found how to install TWRP on my device. I thought I had it already? Ran the commands. Nothing. Switched to regular cable. Nothing. I figured I was screwed. I unplugged the Fire. connected the factory cable. Ran the command. THEN hooked up the cable. JOY JOY JOY!! i GOT TWRP loaded!!!!
Restored my previously saved image, and now I have a working Kindle Fire. NOW i'm going to install some other ROM on it.
The moral is, never give up. Buy a factory cable!!! One of the things I've ever spent $15 or so on. And I recommend SkOrPn as your source. Quality work, great customer service!!!
Step-by-step
1) Make sure you have some charge left in your bricked Kindle. (one of my mistakes
2) Download "Kindle Fire Utility" or other utility that has the fastboot.exe command available.
3) Download twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img (just google it)
4) Without connecting anything, run the command:
fastboot.exe -i 0x1949 boot twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img
5) Connect the factory cable to your Kindle Fire
6) Connect the factory cable to you PC
7) Wait about 10 seconds.
8) DONE!!!!
Sorry for the long post. My wife doesn't understand why this would make me so excited. But you all would, I'm sure.
SteveM
a very nice post for people who have bricked their kindles and need a factory cable!
Thanks for the kind words Steve. I hope this cable gives you confidence in flashing your Kindle long into the future. Glad it worked out for you.
Oh, and you did not see any evidence of modification because I do not modify the cable, I just cut off the original micro connector and install my own, already modified of course with a resistor and all I have to do is re-solder the 4 wires back onto their original pins and then fill the entire casing with 400 degree SureBonder PDR Hot Glue (the worlds strongest known hot glue, according to them anyway lol)... That way it looks and feels like a true manufactured store bought cable. However, doing it my way is still in fact more work, but the end result clearly justifies it.
Anyway, again glad I could be of service to you and my fellow XDA friends.
Where do I run the command from?
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Where do I run the command from?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747804&postcount=3
smoen02 said:
About 3 weeks ago, I bricked my Kindle Fire. It was a "spare" that I had, so I started messing around with it. Got TWRP installed, downloaded a couple of ROMS, and attempted to install them. (fortunately, I made a backup of my base Amazon 6.2)
To make a long story short, the fire got stuck. I was able to adb and various other things on this forum to keep things going, but after a while, Kindle Fire Utility (adb, nothing) could see the device. I thought for sure I had an expensive paper weight.
Enter the factory cable. Because SkOrPn was in the middle of a move, my cable didn't get here right away. Then there were some issues with my PayPal address, which SkOrPn went out of his way to fix. Today, I got the cable at my office.
Looked at the cable. Thought I had been send an unmodified cable. Saw no evidence that anything had been done to the cable. An absolutely perfect professional job.
Couldn't wait to get home. Got home. Plugged cable in Fire, then in Laptop. Nothing. Now what? I thought it was supposed to boot the bootloader? adb didn't see the device. Drivers good, it sees my other Fire. I guess I was one of those 1% that hard brick the fire with no chance of getting it back.
Did a few searched on the forum. Found how to install TWRP on my device. I thought I had it already? Ran the commands. Nothing. Switched to regular cable. Nothing. I figured I was screwed. I unplugged the Fire. connected the factory cable. Ran the command. THEN hooked up the cable. JOY JOY JOY!! i GOT TWRP loaded!!!!
Restored my previously saved image, and now I have a working Kindle Fire. NOW i'm going to install some other ROM on it.
The moral is, never give up. Buy a factory cable!!! One of the things I've ever spent $15 or so on. And I recommend SkOrPn as your source. Quality work, great customer service!!!
Step-by-step
1) Make sure you have some charge left in your bricked Kindle. (one of my mistakes
2) Download "Kindle Fire Utility" or other utility that has the fastboot.exe command available.
3) Download twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img (just google it)
4) Without connecting anything, run the command:
fastboot.exe -i 0x1949 boot twrp-blaze-2.0.0RC0.img
5) Connect the factory cable to your Kindle Fire
6) Connect the factory cable to you PC
7) Wait about 10 seconds.
8) DONE!!!!
Sorry for the long post. My wife doesn't understand why this would make me so excited. But you all would, I'm sure.
SteveM
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Hi there,
Where should I run that command from??
Here´s my case, I hope you could help me..
I need urgent help. Just got my kindle todasy and went through tutorial to use the rooting utitily. My kindle got stuck at loading screen and wouldn´t shut shutdown. I waited until the battery ran out. Waited for few more minutes and plugged in the data cable. The kindle now won´t stop blinking and does not get reckgonized by the pc. I did waited for the battery goes dead again, recharged then for about 30 min and nothing has changed. The loading screen keeps blinking and nothing seems to be happening. Please advise!!
andersonrel said:
Hi there,
Where should I run that command from??
Here´s my case, I hope you could help me..
I need urgent help. Just got my kindle todasy and went through tutorial to use the rooting utitily. My kindle got stuck at loading screen and wouldn´t shut shutdown. I waited until the battery ran out. Waited for few more minutes and plugged in the data cable. The kindle now won´t stop blinking and does not get reckgonized by the pc. I did waited for the battery goes dead again, recharged then for about 30 min and nothing has changed. The loading screen keeps blinking and nothing seems to be happening. Please advise!!
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Oh boy... I'm going to hope that it was a timing issue and our posts got crossed, because I answered your question for another user just above your post.
Regardless, the answer to that question isn't going to help you. You need this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621146
Never let your battery die like you did. You can always force a shutdown by keeping the power button pressed down for 20-30 seconds.
EDIT: I'd been meaning to post this guide for a while...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
and I missed the part of your post about being "stuck at loading screen" the first time I read it. I suggest you read this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
make sure the device drivers are working (part 2) and learn some fastboot commands (part 3) so you can reset the bootmode on your device back to normal and reboot it.
kinfauns said:
Oh boy... I'm going to hope that it was a timing issue and our posts got crossed, because I answered your question for another user just above your post.
Regardless, the answer to that question isn't going to help you. You need this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621146
Never let your battery die like you did. You can always force a shutdown by keeping the power button pressed down for 20-30 seconds.
EDIT: I'd been meaning to post this guide for a while...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623244
and I missed the part of your post about being "stuck at loading screen" the first time I read it. I suggest you read this guide...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
make sure the device drivers are working (part 2) and learn some fastboot commands (part 3) so you can reset the bootmode on your device back to normal and reboot it.
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Thanks for your help. I tried to run a fastboot command and get msg: ´cannot run, adbwin.dll missing´... Now I´m really not sure what it´s missing anymore..
I´m going also leave it charging for longer and it seems to be a known issue, right?
My kindle continues not being reckognized and keeps on flashing the kindle Fire/Android Logo. When I unplug it it stops flashing and I won´t get any sigh of life, even after pressing the button for longer than 30s.
I managed to find the driver on device manager and uninstalled it, thinking that maybe it would help finding the device again, but it didn´t...
Recomendations please?
andersonrel said:
Thanks for your help. I tried to run a fastboot command and get msg: ´cannot run, adbwin.dll missing´... Now I´m really not sure what it´s missing anymore..
I´m going also leave it charging for longer and it seems to be a known issue, right?
My kindle continues not being reckognized and keeps on flashing the kindle Fire/Android Logo. When I unplug it it stops flashing and I won´t get any sigh of life, even after pressing the button for longer than 30s.
I managed to find the driver on device manager and uninstalled it, thinking that maybe it would help finding the device again, but it didn´t...
Recomendations please?
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Unfortunately, if the device isn't booting up, it won't charge. Like the guide I posted above says, the device needs to load up a ramdisk before it will charge. If all you see is that KF/Android logo, then it's still in the bootloader and it's not charging your battery.
First, you'll have to get your drivers in order so you can send the device fastboot commands. I suggest you disconnect the KF from your computer and make sure it's turned off. Use the KFU driver install file and get it to install the drivers again onto your machine. I'm not sure if it will help, but it wouldn't hurt to reboot your computer after that. When it's back up and running again, open up the device manager. When you connect the KF back up to your computer, it should automatically power up again... look at what device comes up as it boots. The first thing you see (hopefully) is "Android Phone -> Android ADB Interface" appear. If you see that, you can be reasonably sure you can send it fastboot commands.
You'll have to issue the "fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000" on the command line. It will tell you that it's waiting for device... The next time it loops back around in its boot up process, it will send the command and hopefully get the bootmode back to normal. Then hook it up to your stock AC wall charger and if you are lucky it should continue to boot and charge your battery.
There's a lot of "hopefully" things that have to go right for this to work. You've got a few compounded issues that are giving you problems and all of them have to get fixed for the battery to start charging again.
andersonrel said:
Thanks for your help. I tried to run a fastboot command and get msg: ´cannot run, adbwin.dll missing´... Now I´m really not sure what it´s missing anymore..
I´m going also leave it charging for longer and it seems to be a known issue, right?
My kindle continues not being reckognized and keeps on flashing the kindle Fire/Android Logo. When I unplug it it stops flashing and I won´t get any sigh of life, even after pressing the button for longer than 30s.
I managed to find the driver on device manager and uninstalled it, thinking that maybe it would help finding the device again, but it didn´t...
Recomendations please?
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To fix the "cannot run, adbwin.dll missing", shift + right click on the folder containing adb.exe and select something like "Run as Command"
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda premium
soupmagnet said:
To fix the "cannot run, adbwin.dll missing", shift + right click on the folder containing adb.exe and select something like "Run as Command"
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire using xda premium
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I´m gonna try this and will post results. Thanks a lot.
kinfauns said:
Unfortunately, if the device isn't booting up, it won't charge. Like the guide I posted above says, the device needs to load up a ramdisk before it will charge. If all you see is that KF/Android logo, then it's still in the bootloader and it's not charging your battery.
First, you'll have to get your drivers in order so you can send the device fastboot commands. I suggest you disconnect the KF from your computer and make sure it's turned off. Use the KFU driver install file and get it to install the drivers again onto your machine. I'm not sure if it will help, but it wouldn't hurt to reboot your computer after that. When it's back up and running again, open up the device manager. When you connect the KF back up to your computer, it should automatically power up again... look at what device comes up as it boots. The first thing you see (hopefully) is "Android Phone -> Android ADB Interface" appear. If you see that, you can be reasonably sure you can send it fastboot commands.
You'll have to issue the "fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000" on the command line. It will tell you that it's waiting for device... The next time it loops back around in its boot up process, it will send the command and hopefully get the bootmode back to normal. Then hook it up to your stock AC wall charger and if you are lucky it should continue to boot and charge your battery.
There's a lot of "hopefully" things that have to go right for this to work. You've got a few compounded issues that are giving you problems and all of them have to get fixed for the battery to start charging again.
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I tried to connect to a different pc. It does get recognized on device manager (as kindle) for few seconds and then it dissapears again...not sure what to do now in order to charge it...any suggestions?
Hey guys thanks for all the help so far, i bricked my kindle to the point of no shell after i tried to reflash the stock rom and was stuck in no mans land. So i ordered skorpn's factory cable (thanks again for sending it up north of the border) and when i plug it into the pc it loads the "kindle fire" screen ans stays there. It shows up in device manager but not when i look for it under adb devices and device won't be found in fastboot. Tried reinstalling the drivers and still no luck. Any ideas how i can get this thing back to the point of usability? Thanks for any help you have
andersonrel said:
I tried to connect to a different pc. It does get recognized on device manager (as kindle) for few seconds and then it dissapears again...not sure what to do now in order to charge it...any suggestions?
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Fix your drivers. Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671
djsaxon said:
Hey guys thanks for all the help so far, i bricked my kindle to the point of no shell after i tried to reflash the stock rom and was stuck in no mans land. So i ordered skorpn's factory cable (thanks again for sending it up north of the border) and when i plug it into the pc it loads the "kindle fire" screen ans stays there. It shows up in device manager but not when i look for it under adb devices and device won't be found in fastboot. Tried reinstalling the drivers and still no luck. Any ideas how i can get this thing back to the point of usability? Thanks for any help you have
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First, fix your drivers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23747671
Then:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
kinfauns said:
You'll have to issue the "fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000" on the command line. It will tell you that it's waiting for device... The next time it loops back around in its boot up process, it will send the command and hopefully get the bootmode back to normal. Then hook it up to your stock AC wall charger and if you are lucky it should continue to boot and charge your battery.
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Well I gave this a shot and it said: "finished. total time: 0.080s"
but it's still just flashing the android logo with kindle fire underneath.
maw230 said:
Well I gave this a shot and it said: "finished. total time: 0.080s"
but it's still just flashing the android logo with kindle fire underneath.
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That's because you have an entirely different problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
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That's because you have an entirely different problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
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Thank you.
hey i can't doing that, when i type that code "fastboot..........img" cmd say <Waiting for devices> ?
jakelongryan said:
hey i can't doing that, when i type that code "fastboot..........img" cmd say <Waiting for devices> ?
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There are several reasons why you would get the typical "waiting for device" message, so...
...here is a step-by-step guide instruct you in getting it working properly, quickly and efficiently.
Step 1. Start a new thread in the Q&A section.
Step 2. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what your problem is.
Step 3. Explain in GREAT detail exactly how your problem started.
Step 4. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what you have done to remedy the situation on your own.
Step 5. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what the device does and everything you see from the moment you press the power button until the problem presents itself.
Step 6. Wait patiently until someone of appropriate knowledge is kind enough to lend a hand.
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There are several reasons why you would get the typical "waiting for device" message, so...
...here is a step-by-step guide instruct you in getting it working properly, quickly and efficiently.
Step 1. Start a new thread in the Q&A section.
Step 2. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what your problem is.
Step 3. Explain in GREAT detail exactly how your problem started.
Step 4. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what you have done to remedy the situation on your own.
Step 5. Explain in GREAT detail exactly what the device does and everything you see from the moment you press the power button until the problem presents itself.
Step 6. Wait patiently until someone of appropriate knowledge is kind enough to lend a hand.
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great advice and exactly what im gonna do. been searching for 2 weeks now reading and learning and still stuck so be looking out for my thread
TL;DR: Dropped Kindle Fire won't boot to OS or recovery, even after flashing FFF and "successfully" flashing TWRP. Broken flash chip?
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My brother gave me a non-functioning Kindle Fire from a friend of his. (FYI, I do not believe it to be stolen). When I got it, it would turn on to a static Kindle Fire logo for about a second, then the screen would get a little brighter, then go completely dead.
After derping around trying to get it to boot or be recognized (to no avail), I followed these instructions (USB boot shorting trick) to get into USB boot mode, then these instructions (Firekit bootloader and recovery installation utility) to install FFF and TWRP while the Kindle was in USB mode. Now, it boots to the yellow fire triangle, but after 10-20 seconds, it still gets a little brighter and then dies. NBD, I haven't installed a new ROM yet. However, if I press the power button again to get into recovery, the button goes orange, but then the screen gets brighter and dies again. Same happens when I try to fastboot into recovery. Firekit says sending, writing, loading, and booting recovery all worked, but the above continues to happen.
The device looks like it has been dropped; the glass on the lower edge of the screen is cracked, and it is generally scuffed and scratched around the edge. There is no visible damage to the motherboard or any components (no cracking, etc.). But these symptoms look to me like a bad flash chip. Any other thoughts?
deutschigmann said:
TL;DR: Dropped Kindle Fire won't boot to OS or recovery, even after flashing FFF and "successfully" flashing TWRP. Broken flash chip?
More Info:
My brother gave me a non-functioning Kindle Fire from a friend of his. (FYI, I do not believe it to be stolen). When I got it, it would turn on to a static Kindle Fire logo for about a second, then the screen would get a little brighter, then go completely dead.
After derping around trying to get it to boot or be recognized (to no avail), I followed these instructions (USB boot shorting trick) to get into USB boot mode, then these instructions (Firekit bootloader and recovery installation utility) to install FFF and TWRP while the Kindle was in USB mode. Now, it boots to the yellow fire triangle, but after 10-20 seconds, it still gets a little brighter and then dies. NBD, I haven't installed a new ROM yet. However, if I press the power button again to get into recovery, the button goes orange, but then the screen gets brighter and dies again. Same happens when I try to fastboot into recovery. Firekit says sending, writing, loading, and booting recovery all worked, but the above continues to happen.
The device looks like it has been dropped; the glass on the lower edge of the screen is cracked, and it is generally scuffed and scratched around the edge. There is no visible damage to the motherboard or any components (no cracking, etc.). But these symptoms look to me like a bad flash chip. Any other thoughts?
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The battery may be low... Try using the factory charger (not USB).
If that doesn't work, let me know. This sounds like an issue a lot of people are having, and maybe I could work something out with you so I can get a failing KF to debug.
Also which command did you use in firekit? Try again with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp. You may have a screwed up partition table. Since the LED changes color and the screen comes on, your first stage boot loader should be working.
pokey9000 said:
The battery may be low... Try using the factory charger (not USB).
If that doesn't work, let me know. This sounds like an issue a lot of people are having, and maybe I could work something out with you so I can get a failing KF to debug.
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We've had it plugged into a charger for a Samsung smartphone. I wasn't given an actual KF charger. Right now it's plugged into my iPad charger, which is closer to the KF charger output, but it's still USB. I'll leave it there for a bit and let you know what happens. I don't think it's a battery issue because it's had enough power to do this on/off cycle numerous times, but who knows. When plugged in, it does it again, dies, and makes no indication that it is charging or anything, just like it does with a PC. I have a multimeter, so I could check the voltage/amperage across the battery, but I don't know which wires to do lol.
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Also which command did you use in firekit? Try again with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp. You may have a screwed up partition table. Since the LED changes color and the screen comes on, your first stage boot loader should be working.
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I started with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp, and then tried usb_boot_twrp, then some of the fastboot commands. I think they all said they worked at each step. The boot command always said something like 0.003 s, not sure if that is a normal time.
It's been plugged into the iPad charger for a few hours now, and the behavior has not changed.
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We've had it plugged into a charger for a Samsung smartphone. I wasn't given an actual KF charger. Right now it's plugged into my iPad charger, which is closer to the KF charger output, but it's still USB. I'll leave it there for a bit and let you know what happens. I don't think it's a battery issue because it's had enough power to do this on/off cycle numerous times, but who knows. When plugged in, it does it again, dies, and makes no indication that it is charging or anything, just like it does with a PC. I have a multimeter, so I could check the voltage/amperage across the battery, but I don't know which wires to do lol.
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Yeah, it was a crapshoot, but a few people have had some weirdnesses resolved by making sure the battery's charged. I guess the fact that you get through the TWRP install rules this out.
I started with usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp, and then tried usb_boot_twrp, then some of the fastboot commands. I think they all said they worked at each step. The boot command always said something like 0.003 s, not sure if that is a normal time.
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One theory I've had is that either something is being missed by the partition recreator, or there's some assumption that the emmc is blanked when the device is initially flashed. If you have no attachments to any data that might be on this Fire, you could try zeroing (or 0xFFing as erased flash would be) the flash while in TWRP (via adb). Then redo the usb_fix_parts_blah_blah which should leave you with bootloaders and recovery.
I'm not sure if this would work, but without knowing where and why the bootloader is dying I can only guess.
I just erased each partition through fastboot (fastboot erase boot, system, cache, userdata, recovery) and it seemed to work, or at least think it was working, as they each took a proportional amount of time from 2 s for boot to 118 s for userdata. Ran install_fff_twrp, it went through all the motions, then died when it tried to boot as before. Tried using the power button to get to TWRP, same thing.
Edit: Just found a list of the partitions. Went through in fastboot and deleted xloader, bootloader, dkernel, dfs, recovery, backup, boot, splash, system, userdata, cache, and media. Reran install_fff_twrp, same effect as before. Oh whoops, now it won't boot at all. Probably need to do the shorting trick again.
Hmm, I may have borked it a bit more than I intended. Right now, doing the USB trick, running usb_fix_parts... it says:
Loading FFF through USB...
?
waiting for OMAP44xx device...
I let it sit, then Ctrl+C, redid, tried again, hung after "?" and seemed unwilling to Ctrl+C, redid, hung at "waiting" again.
Edit: Did it one more time, seems to have worked (as well as earlier). Hung for a while on "Resetting bootmode to standard boot...", but it said it only took 0.079 s. Whatever the case all steps said "OKAY" and the screen got brighter, then all went dead.
Is there a way to do a full wipe of the disk through fastboot, other than doing partition-by-partition?
OK so it looks like the weird hangings and stuff were probably due to using a-port USB extender on my laptop. Tried on my desktop and everything went quickly, but the KF still died.
After all the deletions and stuff it still won't boot into recovery, but instead of dying when trying to do a normal boot, it just gets hung on the bootloader screen, and won't allow me to try to go into recovery. I'm not sure if that's better or worse. I guess it means the deletions really erased something, but then why won't it write/boot?
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Hmm, I may have borked it a bit more than I intended. Right now, doing the USB trick, running usb_fix_parts... it says:
Loading FFF through USB...
?
waiting for OMAP44xx device...
I let it sit, then Ctrl+C, redid, tried again, hung after "?" and seemed unwilling to Ctrl+C, redid, hung at "waiting" again.
Edit: Did it one more time, seems to have worked (as well as earlier). Hung for a while on "Resetting bootmode to standard boot...", but it said it only took 0.079 s. Whatever the case all steps said "OKAY" and the screen got brighter, then all went dead.
Is there a way to do a full wipe of the disk through fastboot, other than doing partition-by-partition?
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Can you still get into TWRP after the usb_fix_parts... finishes? If so, try:
adb shell
When you get a prompt, do:
tr "\000" "\377" < /dev/zero | dd of=/dev/block/mmcblk0
***WARNING THIS COMMAND WILL STEAL YOUR CAR AND USE YOUR
***CUPHOLDERS FOR A URINAL. IT WISHES YOUR FAMILY ILL AND IS
***RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING INDUSTRIAL WASTE IN IMPORTED PET
***FOOD. IT IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. DON'T DO THIS UNLESS YOU
***ABSOLUTELY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
It might take a few hours for this to run. At the end your flash will be fresh from the factory clean. If you hold down the power button long enough, your Fire should go into USB boot mode regardless of shorting the test point. Now try the usb_fix_parts_... again.
I wish I could, but I've never been able to get it into recovery. Just bootloader.
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I wish I could, but I've never been able to get it into recovery. Just bootloader.
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So when you run usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp, it doesn't reboot into TWRP when it's done? You don't have to get it to run recovery from the flash, just run recovery at all. Unfortunately FFF doesn't know how to wipe everything at the level I described.
No, it says it does each step and gives the status OKAY, but when it tries to boot the recovery, the screen gets a little brigher and then everything dies, just like when I try to get to it using the power button.
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No, it says it does each step and gives the status OKAY, but when it tries to boot the recovery, the screen gets a little brigher and then everything dies, just like when I try to get to it using the power button.
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Does "usb_boot_twrp" work instead of usb_fix_parts...?
Nope, same result. Gets brighter, dies. Hmm...
Tried another copy of TWRP and ./fastboot boot twrp....img, same thing. Flashed TWRP 2.1.1 from another post, still dies.
Is it possible to boot to USB storage, similar to the other USB boot trick? So that I could use the linux distro's system to write to the disk?
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Is it possible to boot to USB storage, similar to the other USB boot trick? So that I could use the linux distro's system to write to the disk?
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No, unfortunately. The USB boot is part of the on-chip bootrom. It's not smart enough to do much more than boot off SD & soldered down flash chips, serial, and the simple USB device protocol.
What's making this hard is not being able to see where it's dying: is it in the kernel or in FFF? It seems like your Fire is now in the same state as everyone who was bitten by the latest CWM.
Since it had the same behavior before and after installing FFF, I feel like that's probably not it. It seemed like it likely hadn't been modded before, since it was stuck on the stock KF logo.
pokey plz make it working again the kindle is still in waiting for device
hey plz solve the firekit issue of being stuck in waiting for device issu
I got this kindle fire that I am trying to fix for my kid. I don't know what firmware was in. The KF has never been rooted. We tried to call Amazon for a replacement, but since I didn't remember which email account was tied to this KF and I couldn't find the Serial Number either, I got stuck with it. If could make this device to boot one more time to see the amazon account or the serial number that will be great.
Well anyways, these are the symptoms. After lots of hours of reading about bricked Kindle Fires I decided to order a factory cable suspecting the problem was a low battery KF going into a 5 second loop. The process went good. I was able to flash FFF 1.4a and TWRP 2.2.2.1 by going into fastboot mode, but the problem is that the KF does not want to start in recovery mode, nor in normal mode.
At this point, I think I can rule out a battery low problem, but I am not sure.
No matter what I do, I cannot enter to adb mode, and this is the real problem I don't seem to find an answer. If there was a way that I could upload the firmware from fastboot mode or a tool that forces recovery mode.
As I said this KF was always stock until today that I tried to unbrick it by installing the FFF and the TWRP. The TWRP never started.
As I said earlier my only objective at this point is to recover the serial number or the account email associated with my KF.
Question 2, how can I revert to the stock bootloader if everything else fails?
Any suggestions, links, ideas will be welcome.
gwmadrigal said:
I got this kindle fire that I am trying to fix for my kid. I don't know what firmware was in. The KF has never been rooted. We tried to call Amazon for a replacement, but since I didn't remember which email account was tied to this KF and I couldn't find the Serial Number either, I got stuck with it. If could make this device to boot one more time to see the amazon account or the serial number that will be great.
Well anyways, these are the symptoms. After lots of hours of reading about bricked Kindle Fires I decided to order a factory cable suspecting the problem was a low battery KF going into a 5 second loop. The process went good. I was able to flash FFF 1.4a and TWRP 2.2.2.1 by going into fastboot mode, but the problem is that the KF does not want to start in recovery mode, nor in normal mode.
At this point, I think I can rule out a battery low problem, but I am not sure.
No matter what I do, I cannot enter to adb mode, and this is the real problem I don't seem to find an answer. If there was a way that I could upload the firmware from fastboot mode or a tool that forces recovery mode.
As I said this KF was always stock until today that I tried to unbrick it by installing the FFF and the TWRP. The TWRP never started.
As I said earlier my only objective at this point is to recover the serial number or the account email associated with my KF.
Question 2, how can I revert to the stock bootloader if everything else fails?
Any suggestions, links, ideas will be welcome.
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I hate to ask this question but do you know how to access recovery by using the power button to get the boot menu then selecting recovery? If you are using the boot menu to attempt to access recovery and its not cooperating it`s possible that points to a broken bootloader or a broken recovery. When you flashed both fff and twrp did you see that it sent and physically wrote each one? maybe explain how you flashed them so we can see if a error was made there. What level do you believe the battery is at? Possible it could be playing a role in your present issue.
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I hate to ask this question but do you know how to access recovery by using the power button to get the boot menu then selecting recovery? If you are using the boot menu to attempt to access recovery and its not cooperating it`s possible that points to a broken bootloader or a broken recovery. When you flashed both fff and twrp did you see that it sent and physically wrote each one? maybe explain how you flashed them so we can see if a error was made there. What level do you believe the battery is at? Possible it could be playing a role in your present issue.
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I have done a lot of experiments with my SGS2 about installing ROMS using ODIN or CWR, backing up my own images and making backups. Most of the work I do though is in CWR. I haven't dealt with TWR yet. I also installed ICS on my HP Touchpad. So, even though this is the first time I deal with the KF, I already some experience working with ROMS and images.
Back to the process. I installed the FFF using the Kindle Fire Utility. The KF was forced to fastboot mode via the factory cable. At first I could see on the KF splash screen with the black and orange logo, and now the KF is booting using a Black and Blue kindle fire logo with 1.4a on top. At the bottom of the splash I see instructions of the bootloader selector indicating to press the power button and select the mode that I want to boot. Either Normal Mode or Recovery Mode.
I flashed the TWRP 2.2.2.1 in fastboot mode using my command prompt by putting this code:
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fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery [path]\openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.1-blaze.img
I was following the instructions on this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I got stuck on step 3 after attempting to boot into recovery mode.
I can select which boot mode I want to go, but none of them work. I only get on the bottom of the screen saying Booting... and then the KF shuts down.
I suspect the battery had a good level of charge, but I can't tell for sure.
Thanks for everything.
Download TWRP again, check the md5, reinstall, and post whatever error messages (if any) that are in your command window here.
In the meantime, enter the following command and let me know what happens after you reboot.
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fastboot oem idme bootmode 5001
fastboot reboot
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Download TWRP again, check the md5, reinstall, and post whatever error messages (if any) that are in your command window here.
In the meantime, enter the following command and let me know what happens after you reboot.
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fastboot oem idme bootmode 5001
fastboot reboot
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All commands were successful.
When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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What happens when you change the bootmode to 5001?
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What happens when you change the bootmode to 5001?
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It accepts the command.
The command prompt responds saying something like it took 0. something seconds to execute the command.
Thanks for reading my thread.
If upon rebooting, the result is the same after changing the bootmode, it is possible the bootloader isn't working properly. If that's the case, flashing a new bootloader (with md5 verified) might not work, but it's worth a shot.
If that doesn't work, you should be able to change the bootmode to USBboot (4003) and use Firekit to replace the bootloader, but that's speaking theoretically. I've never tried it so I couldn't tell you whether it would work or not. But then you could always pull the back cover off the device and use the shorting trick to use Firekit in USBboot.
If installing a bootloader with the Firekit doesn't work, you're likely looking at a hardware issue, and there's not much we can do about that.
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1. If upon rebooting, the result is the same after changing the bootmode, it is possible the bootloader isn't working properly. If that's the case, flashing a new bootloader (with md5 verified) might not work, but it's worth a shot.
2. If that doesn't work, you should be able to change the bootmode to USBboot (4003) and use Firekit to replace the bootloader, but that's speaking theoretically. I've never tried it so I couldn't tell you whether it would work or not. But then you could always pull the back cover off the device and use the shorting trick to use Firekit in USBboot.
3. If installing a bootloader with the Firekit doesn't work, you're likely looking at a hardware issue, and there's not much we can do about that.
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2 sounds too complicated. I will need to read more.
I'm at work. I am going to try number 1 when I get home.
One more question, how can I revert the KF so when the it boots it shows the original orange white logo?
Thanks for everything.
gwmadrigal said:
2 sounds too complicated. I will need to read more.
I'm at work. I am going to try number 1 when I get home.
One more question, how can I revert the KF so when the it boots it shows the original orange white logo?
Thanks for everything.
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If you have any questions about using Firekit, don't be afraid to ask.
Get your device working properly before attempting to revert the bootloader back to stock. Contrary to what you may think, the custom bootloader is much better for you in this situation.
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When I'm doing instead of the fastboot reboot is to remove the factory cable. Shutdown the KF by holding the power button. Then I connect a regular USB cable. The KF starts the boot process. It enters the first splash screen. Then it moves to booting, but the booting fails. The only thing that I see is that the button light turns from green to yellow and then it shuts down. And the boot process starts again going into a boot loop.
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I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
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I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
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I think that would be the case if the device just rebooted. The OP is saying the device shuts down when FFF starts to load the operating system (Booting...) or recovery, which is why I think it is either the bootloader or some hardware issue.
soupmagnet said:
If you have any questions about using Firekit, don't be afraid to ask.
Get your device working properly before attempting to revert the bootloader back to stock. Contrary to what you may think, the custom bootloader is much better for you in this situation.
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I tried reloading the u-boot using fastboot and the upload was successful. But it's doing exactly the same.I guess my only question right now, do you know of any good guide that I should start reading to get my feet wet on what the firekit is and how to get started?
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I suspect your battery is still depleted because it still sounds like a 5 second boot loop. Try this hold the power button down till it`s off and plug it to your pc for a few hours to see if you cannot get some power to your battery.
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I have nothing to lose. This KF is already bricked. I can certainly try anything. Which cable do you suggest I use? the Factory cable or the USB cable?
I think I answered my own question now. Using a regular USB cable puts the KF in the bootloop. I will use the factory cable instead. I shut down the KF, put the factory cable connected to my computer and the KF. Right now the KF is in the KindleFire splash screen waiting for fastboot commands of for me to use the button to tell it which mode to boot. I will leave it plug overnight.
Thanks for replying on my thread and trying to help me.
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I think that would be the case if the device just rebooted. The OP is saying the device shuts down when FFF starts to load the operating system (Booting...) or recovery, which is why I think it is either the bootloader or some hardware issue.
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I posted a video in utube of what the KF is doing, so you can see what I'm seeing.
Link
Thanks for coming back several times to reply on my thread.
That looks like your battery. From what I can tell, the device is just rebooting, not shutting down.
Unplug the device and hold the power button to perform a hard shutdown.
Plug the device in (it should power up on it's own) and hold the power button to shut it down again.
Leave it plugged into the computer until sometime tomorrow and try again.
Same thing I was thinking 5 second bootloop Thank you the video was very helpful to see just how its acting. Use stock cable to charge not factory.
OKay. I'm glad I came to check the thread one more time before going to bed. I removed the factory cable and put the regular usb instead. The KF was rebooting. I shut down the KF by holding the power button without unplugging the cable. Now the KF appears to be shut down, but the cable is still plugged. The yellow light does not appear as it normally would if it was charging though. I don't know if this is normal.
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OKay. I'm glad I came to check the thread one more time before going to bed. I removed the factory cable and put the regular usb instead. The KF was rebooting. I shut down the KF by holding the power button without unplugging the cable. Now the KF appears to be shut down, but the cable is still plugged. The yellow light does not appear as it normally would if it was charging though. I don't know if this is normal.
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I think you're fine let it rest.
I have come into my possession a Kindle Fire 1st generation. When I got it, the youngster said it was “hacked for the Amazon App Store”… and the battery was dead. I traded an older laptop for it. I put it on a charger for a day or so and left it. It would boot to the “Stock” logo for several seconds, then the backlight would go slightly brighter and it would shut off.
I started reading up about some of the power-on issues around the web. I found most of my answers on “xda-developers.com” for my TF101 so I gravitated here.
Here is what I’ve done so far:
1. Acquired a factory cable... SO useful.
2. Flashed FFF v1.4a and TWRP v2.4.4.0
3. Played around with fastboot.exe commands -update, flash, erase, getvar, reboot, help
4. Flashed a stock bootloader and recovery… trying to get it to charge.
5. Disassembled and tested battery voltage… 4.10VDC on a 3.7V battery. That sounds good to me.
6. Tried the firekit boot from Live-USB. Won’t stay powered on.
Right now, I’ve flashed the FFF 1.4a and TWRP v2.5. What happens is, in normal boot, the fire boots to the FFF logo (White &Blue) goes to “Booting” and the power switch LED gets slightly brighter, then the backlight goes slightly brighter and the whole thing shuts off. If I push power to go to recovery, the fire shows “Booting.” Then, the power switch goes orange, then it goes off, then the whole thing shuts down. I cannot do any ADB commands because the Fire will not stay powered on in that mode. The factory cable keeps it powered on, but I’m stuck with fastboot.exe commands in that mode.
I do not have a stock charger. I’ve been using my charger from my TF101 and a cable from my phone or the factory cable. I’ve been futzing around with this thing for a few weeks and would like some input. I haven’t found an identical issue so I’ve decided to create a thread.
I’m wondering if I have a bad gate on the memory chip… I’ve seen desktops and laptops shut down with bad memory in the past. I’m reasonably savvy with a command prompt and not afraid to crack a box.
Hold the power button until the device shuts off completely. Plug it in to your USB cable power source (not the factory cable), and let it power on automatically. Immediately after it starts to power on, hold the power button to shut it off again. Let it charge in this state for a few hours and try to boot into recovery again.
soupmagnet said:
Hold the power button until the device shuts off completely. Plug it in to your USB cable power source (not the factory cable), and let it power on automatically. Immediately after it starts to power on, hold the power button to shut it off again. Let it charge in this state for a few hours and try to boot into recovery again.
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Thank you Soupmagnet. I've done this and let it sit for a weekend... sorry I didn't mention it before. With a voltage reading of 4.1, I think I have a full charge (by the way, it doesn't drop over a day or so). You can be assured that I've tried most everything before posting. Please be gentle if I didn't state it previously
One of my issues is I can't get to anything on the fire itself. Even with the factory cable, is shuts off if I choose to continue... hold the power button and choose recovery, normal, reset boot mode. Is it supposed to be able to go to recovery when the factory cable is connected? It only stays powered if I leave it at the FFF logo.
pmrmx774 said:
Thank you Soupmagnet. I've done this and let it sit for a weekend... sorry I didn't mention it before. With a voltage reading of 4.1, I think I have a full charge (by the way, it doesn't drop over a day or so). You can be assured that I've tried most everything before posting. Please be gentle if I didn't state it previously
One of my issues is I can't get to anything on the fire itself. Even with the factory cable, is shuts off if I choose to continue... hold the power button and choose recovery, normal, reset boot mode. Is it supposed to be able to go to recovery when the factory cable is connected? It only stays powered if I leave it at the FFF logo.
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What command did you use to install TWRP?
soupmagnet said:
What command did you use to install TWRP?
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Fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery c:\KFU\recovery\twrp.img.
This is after I renamed the v2.4.4.0 file to old_twrp.img and downloaded the v2.5 that I found last Friday. Previously, i'd used the KFU. Last week I played around with flashing different bootloader and recovery to see if I could get it past the FFF or stock. At this point it's a challenge to get it to go further than FFF.
pmrmx774 said:
Fastboot -i 0x1949 flash recovery c:\KFU\recovery\twrp.img.
This is after I renamed the v2.4.4.0 file to old_twrp.img and downloaded the v2.5 that I found last Friday. Previously, i'd used the KFU. Last week I played around with flashing different bootloader and recovery to see if I could get it past the FFF or stock. At this point it's a challenge to get it to go further than FFF.
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Use fastboot to flash this to your system partition and see if you can boot normally.... http://d-h.st/NzN
Perhaps it is hardware, not software
Just had a very similar issue. Turned out to be stupid simple.
Use spudgers to gently take the back off the case (a small flathead screwdriver should do the trick). then check the connection between the battery and the motherboard. In my case, my daughter had dropped it enough times that the connection was not all the way out but not enough in. This caused the exact behavior you are describing. Took me 2 minutes to fuss with once I got motivated.
Jon
I recently recieved this kindle as is from a friend and i was asked to fix it, i don't really have any information to go off of other that what i could gather. So far, it doesn't turn on/charge, in windows it's recognized as a OMAP4430 device only for a second or two, from there i tried using FireKit on ubuntu via usb. that gave me some success, after using usb_fix_parts_and_install_fff_twrp i saw the yellow triangle on the screen; however, the script seemed to stop with this:
waiting for OMAP44xx device...
sending 2ndstage to target...
waiting for 2ndstage response...
sending image to target...
Fixing partitions...
< waiting for device >
and won't progress any further. i'm not really sure what to do at this point since i feel so close and it would be a shame to quit now.
I've also tried using multiple USB cables and a fastboot cable, but none seem to be making a difference. so please if you know of anything that would help, it would be greatly appreciated.
You only have a small window of time to get everything through. When the usbboot script hangs at "waiting for device", leave the script running, unplug the device, hold the power button for 15 seconds, create the short and plug the device back in.
You may have to do it a couple of times.
Once you see the yellow triangle, don't shut the device off until you install FireFireFire1.4a while in recovery. You may have to use adb to push the .zip file to your sdcard first though.
Oh, ok thanks. i didn't know i still had to preform the short, since it was already in usb boot mode. anyway trying it now.
I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly. I followed what you said and after shorting the device, and plugging it back in, it brings up the yellow triangle again. But pressing the power button doesn't bring me into a recovery and the script still says waiting for device
I should have clarified that a bit, but oh well.
Go ahead and reboot to try to access recovery with the power button. Sometimes when you reboot, depending on how everything went, the device doesn't come on again and you have to start all over...but you should be fine though.
=/ not too much luck there...maybe i'm shorting the cpu incorrectly, not sure. once the script hangs i unplug and power off the device, and essentially just any old conductive piece of wire should do and connect it to the point and the metal bar, right? i'm using a male to male jumper cable at the moment. While doing this i've noticed a couple times the kindle would power back on and display the yellow triangle but still no other responsiveness or progess in the script itself.
When the yellow triangle is displayed, do you have access to fastboot?
Try sending 'fastboot getvar product'
i guess not. it just sits at "< waiting for device >"
Try using a safety pin to make the short....that might help.
so slight update, it turns out i have no problem booting a firefirefire from usb, but from there it just refuses to initiate fastboot and ubuntu can't seem to recognize it. i thought it might have been a possibly issue with the specific version of FFF i was booting from, but so far 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 all give me the same issue.
dragon0010 said:
so slight update, it turns out i have no problem booting a firefirefire from usb, but from there it just refuses to initiate fastboot and ubuntu can't seem to recognize it. i thought it might have been a possibly issue with the specific version of FFF i was booting from, but so far 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 all give me the same issue.
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Make sure you have FFF1.4a and run your fastboot commands as root in Ubuntu.
so i just found out something interesting. i had a spare fully functional kindle that i put into usb boot mode with the shorting trick, and did all the steps, and fastboot was able to recognize it. i haven't done anything differently with the currently bricked kindle, but it just wont get past "waiting for device" when issuing any fastboot command. so at this point is there really anything i can do?