Wrong sections... - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Is it just me, or am I seeing more and more ROM's that are CM9/10 and AOKP/AOSP based being put in the development section instead of the original section where they belong?
Would asking a MOD to move them to the proper section be asking for trouble? I am just curious because it is cluttering up section and making it hard to find things...

graydiggy said:
Is it just me, or am I seeing more and more ROM's that are CM9/10 and AOKP/AOSP based being put in the development section instead of the original section where they belong?
Would asking a MOD to move them to the proper section be asking for trouble? I am just curious because it is cluttering up section and making it hard to find things...
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The way I see it, they are technically Android Development, as are all the ROMs in the original section. And, they are technically not original projects since they are heavily based on someone else's work. Ideally we would have a sub section for Stock and a sub section for AOSP/CM based ROMS, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
I do feel your pain though. The Android section is getting to be quite a mess.

bigj231 said:
The way I see it, they are technically Android Development, as are all the ROMs in the original section. And, they are technically not original projects since they are heavily based on someone else's work. Ideally we would have a sub section for Stock and a sub section for AOSP/CM based ROMS, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
I do feel your pain though. The Android section is getting to be quite a mess.
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Well that's the thing, original development is for the AOKP/AOSP and CM9/10 ROMS and Android Development is for the TW based ROM's be they stock or otherwise. It is so confusing...

I personally believe that all AOSP based ROMs should go in Original Development and all TouchWiz based ROMs should go in Android Development.
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I must agree as well, can be a brick waiting to happen!!!
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prguzman1978 said:
I must agree as well, can be a brick waiting to happen!!!
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Exctly. People can get confused Wth the installs.
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I do kind of aggree. why is there no one click aosp roms?
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I dont ...let the chips fall where they may...love the devs in any section thats putting in work....hell even the peeps that post in he wrong portion of the forum are kinda funny
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marksedge said:
I dont ...let the chips fall where they may...love the devs in any section thats putting in work....hell even the peeps that post in he wrong portion of the forum are kinda funny
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Please don't get me wrong. I love any dev that is putting new stuff out. But.... When they are putting stuff in the wrong section, it is confusing and bothersome.

Only original development IMO is CyanogenMod and AOKP everything else is based or a copy of those two.
I'm referring to ROMs not tools or kennels.
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graydiggy said:
Well that's the thing, original development is for the AOKP/AOSP and CM9/10 ROMS and Android Development is for the TW based ROM's be they stock or otherwise. It is so confusing...
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NO. Original development is for Original work. Just taking CM source and compiling it is not original work. The Official CM ROMs and first AOKP ROMs ONLY go in Original Development. Everything else goes in regular development. There is a sticky in Original Development explaining more.

kennyglass123 said:
NO. Original development is for Original work. Just taking CM source and compiling it is not original work. The Official CM ROMs and first AOKP ROMs ONLY go in Original Development. Everything else goes in regular development. There is a sticky in Original Development explaining more.
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so many are posting wrong than... As stated above, there needs to a section under android dev called "aosp" and one "touchwiz" and maybe "other"
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We can't start breaking down ROMs by aosp, tw, etc. Mopar, that's just too much for the admins. *Most* of the time, they are labeled and if not, users will just have to read for themselves (like they need to be doing anyway). If you guys feel like something is out of place, then you can pm any one of us in this section, and we'll go over it.
---Jay--- From the Nexus 7

jayharper08 said:
We can't start breaking down ROMs by aosp, tw, etc. Mopar, that's just too much for the admins. *Most* of the time, they are labeled and if not, users will just have to read for themselves (like they need to be doing anyway). If you guys feel like something is out of place, then you can pm any one of us in this section, and we'll go over it.
---Jay--- From the Nexus 7
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I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
I like to break stuff!

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
I like to break stuff!
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Brilliant!
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
I like to break stuff!
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I'll definitely be pointing this out to the higher up's. Lol.
---Jay--- From the Nexus 7

We definitely need to do something about the new guys and everyone else not following rules and posting in the wrong sections. Just in the past week, I have seen probably 30 posts get moved from General to QA. As well as new members trying to be internet gangsters when the get called out on their crap. I personally feel like punishments should be a bit more strict not just as a punishment for the person with the infraction but to save other users from having to deal with the crap that is getting dished out. I see a potential for a ton of good things in the future and I have a ton of ideas for structuring how things are handled. It is obvious that we have a lot more average users than we do admins/mods, maybe having a few more would benefit everyone and setting up a sort of system to make it easier for those mods and admins to keep things organized. I personally have had people tell me that I should look into being a mod because i don't take crap from anyone and I normally don't act like a flipping idiot when responding to the top tier morons that want to act stupid for attention. If a mod wants to contact me about my ideas and such, please feel free to do so.
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graydiggy said:
We definitely need to do something about the new guys and everyone else not following rules and posting in the wrong sections. Just in the past week, I have seen probably 30 posts get moved from General to QA. As well as new members trying to be internet gangsters when the get called out on their crap. I personally feel like punishments should be a bit more strict not just as a punishment for the person with the infraction but to save other users from having to deal with the crap that is getting dished out. I see a potential for a ton of good things in the future and I have a ton of ideas for structuring how things are handled. It is obvious that we have a lot more average users than we do admins/mods, maybe having a few more would benefit everyone and setting up a sort of system to make it easier for those mods and admins to keep things organized. I personally have had people tell me that I should look into being a mod because i don't take crap from anyone and I normally don't act like a flipping idiot when responding to the top tier morons that want to act stupid for attention. If a mod wants to contact me about my ideas and such, please feel free to do so.
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You can put all the suggestions and questions you have all right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
The admins and MC do pay attention to it, believe me.
---Jay--- From the Nexus 7

I agree with the advantage of having more Mods and Admins, but you need to be careful about having too many. I've seen too many other communities die because of admin bickering and the admins getting really egotistic.
Also, I knew where you were going gray, before you finished the fourth sentence. Maybe a bit more subtle with your plugs, eh?

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
I like to break stuff!
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Something kind of along these lines was implemented into the JusTunBean inverted apps thread ages ago.
He was getting fed up with all the members who weren't reading the OP and continued to ask stupid questions so he asked other RCs what we could do.
An idea was suggested to hide a password in the OP somewhere. Once the password had been found, the member had to enter the password into an app which would then provide them with a download link.
The password was broken down into three parts and placed randomly in the OP but it would be clear which words were part of the password and which ones weren't.
It's just a shame that he removed the password because too many idiots were asking for it/moaning about it.

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Development Threads. Please keep comments in general.

A mod has had to delete a thread for maintainance and explicitly tell people not to post off topic only to have the same thing just continue one thread over in the racing build thread unless that is really 13 pages of useful information. Instead of telling to people to stay on topic and continue the trend I made this post.
Could everyone keep the dev threads to dev posts. If you have a bug make a logcat. If you want to say thanks start a single thanks thread in general, I am not sure if thats kosher but at least if the mods have a problem with such thanks thread they can just delete it without having to go through and look for actually useful posts.
Mods on this
reinbeau said:
There is a Thanks button, use it.
Do not post Woop! Or nice job! or anything else that has nothing else to do with Development or this thread will be closed. I am sick of clearing out blathering.
Development discussion only.
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Even the devs want you to stay on topic on their threads
Racing19969 said:
Thanks everyone. let's please keep this on topic so it does not get shutdown
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The mods could delete this thread if they dont think it helps
Bro, I have no idea what you said but I think I agree
we had to clean up a lot of useless comments in that topic which were nothing related to development at all
please keep all chatters in General
feel free to open a new topic for the specific ROM in question
but do not CLUTTER the Development topic with comments that provides no value in the development.
I feel for you guys, You post that people not to go off topic then people posting like you didnt just tell them not to go off topic.
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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degeneration said:
The people even reading this post are the people who probably don't need to be told. It Sucks because the annoying posters are ruining it for those following the rules. The most I type in a dev thread is f5 sigh.
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I think they should probably close the thread for a day or two which would force people to make a thread in general. The mod warnings seem to be immediately ignored
look at this gem which obviously belongs here
suaverc118 said:
Excuse me for my question but does that mean T-Mobile will send out the real ICS update soon?? My phone isn't rooted because I'm having problems with Odin opening. Thanks for the info.
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this is aside from all the variations of posts with know bugs followed by a thanks
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
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Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
jim93 said:
Its kinda hopeless right now because if you look at the threads. A mod will clean it up and put up a notice to stay on topic and literally minutes later it will go back to offtopic posts.
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They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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Beefvvl said:
They keep doing it cuz no one reports the individuals. If they are never penalized for their behavior, then they will never correct it.
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People are reporting them and the mods are aware. Allgamer posted on this thread that they are aware of it. It just keeps coming from different posters.
Beefvvl said:
It would just be easier for us to report the people who don't follow. People forget about the report button.
The same moderator has to clean one of the threads twice already. I wish all the Dev threads were cleaned up. There's a lot of garbage in a lot of them. People posting first, second, third.....downloading now, will report later. Or thanks! Your awesome.....there's a thank button for a reason.
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Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
degeneration said:
Wait, what? How does that logic work?
It is easier for us to to go through and report each post so that a moderator is forced to look over each one and decide if it should be deleted or not than it would for people to act responsible for their own crap and just not post worthless stuff in a dev thread?
Sure it might be easier for me to just report each post instead of trying to educate anyone, but now because one person is doing whatever they please I have to report them AND a moderator has to take the time to go and delete it.
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Aside from the fact that people are reporting people, it just doesnt stop and keeps going faster than the 60 second between reports rule sometimes
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
ICS is awesome, but a lot of n00bs I have never seen post a single comment around here started posting out of nowhere lol.
I'm going to do something productive rather than be annoyed by these n00bs. I suggest you guys do the same.
I came from the G2 forum and own a sensation also. There seem to be more inconsiderate people here than either of those forums. I for one am glad those threads got shut down.
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dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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it would be opened shortly, but should be closed for now until it is cleaned up or until raver updates the ROM. So don't think it's the end of the world.
Well this sucks.. guess were stuck.
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degeneration said:
Well, now the thread is closed. Those who made it happen by posting useless crap will probably not learn anything from it either. Sigh.
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suddenly people are going to post here about how they suddenly care after the fact. The whole point of this thread was to keep the ot posts down so that the threads are not closed.
dsp4774 said:
I have a quick question in regards to that RaverX thread that just closed:
For those of us that DO want to follow the rules and prefer to follow the progress of the ROM, where do we go from here? I know the ROM is on sourceforge, so I can at least see if there are updates.
Should this have just been a PM, or are there others that share this curiosity?
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its in ravers sourceforge so he can update the rom and still have the same link

My experience in Q&A

So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT
Yeah, I could have given it a little bit more time but without a status bar I didn't want to wait...
I guess instead of complaining about it, I will take the initiative to contribute my experience with the E4GT to the community. I'm no developer but I will try to help as best as I can.
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Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.
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Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.
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I flashed the odexed theme... I also thought it was a bad flash. I usually read most of the thread and the comments.
I just didn't read enough to see that there was a problem flashing over stock.
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This time it was buried and as dumb as I felt flashing a theme that said deodexed over a stock rom it worked.
Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.
You must realize that we all have lives outside of this forum, I too try to help out as often as I can with what little knowledge I have. Its the only way I can give back but I also work full-time and go to college full-time. So there are a few days where I can't find the time to post or help out. I'm not by any means saying that this is the case for everyone here, just simply giving you an example that may or may not be the case for some of us here.
I can almost promise you, however, if you give it enough time, someone WILL come to your aid.
I just hope you realize this and don't think any less of these people here. They really do put a lot of time and effort into helping and developing for all of us in hopes of getting nothing more than a simple "thanks".
I also hope that your next experience is nothing like the previous one.
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Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.
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I agree with the backup idea, but I'm not touching the backup restore functions on an ICS kernel until it has been fully tested and determined to be safe to use.
I thought I had backups of the SystemUI on my SD card but they were for earlier builds and would not work. I realize that everyone has their own life outside of XDA. That is why when I saw that my question didn't even have one reply when several other questions had new comments, I decided to just flash a new ROM.
The reason I have started this thread is because I am not the first user to be ignored when asking a simple question to ask if someone could help with such a simple issue.
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Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Early on I used to answer every question I could but eventually most threads were answers before I even got there so slowly I stopped going to the q and a sec
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I live in the q&a section. Sorry I didn't see your post lol. I try and help out as much as I can
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jayharper08 said:
I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT
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Restored a lot of faith for me...patience is a rare commodity. Thank you sir
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Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.
akarol said:
Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.
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In theory, yea. But a lot of those answers you "searched" for are found in the Q&A section.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT
I admit I don't frequent Q&A as much as I do General and Development, but if I see something I feel that I can answer then I always try to contribute. If it's something completely out of my league but I know someone who might know the answer then I will, occasionally, post that information.
While I understand OP's need for a quick resolution (although most questions in Q&A need the same) I agree with those who have advocated allowing a little more time for people to respond.
I know it can be frustrating (and intimidating) to be stuck on a problem with no answer but again, as stated in the posts above, sometimes people who can help simply aren't online at the time the problem is posted. Though I'm here a lot during the day (from work, shhhh) in the evenings my time is a bit more sporadic and I've come back to the computer with PMs from people who asked me something but thought I was ignoring them, that bothers me because I would never willingly ignore someone.
So I think Q&A definitely has its uses and maybe this post should be our tap on the shoulder to peruse it more often and see if there is something we can help answer.
To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....
Compusmurf said:
To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....
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When most roms here are 1 click executable files its not so easy to extract the apk...
And with most of the roms that are zipped, they are already themed...
I have resolved my own issue by flashing a new rom, that was not the point of this thread... the point I wanted to bring up with this thread is that it is apparent that 95% of the users here only frequent General and Development. If more users just checked Q&A once and a while to see if there is anyone needing help with something that they have already experienced, they could easily reply with what they did to resolve the issue.
Let's all stop pointing the blame and help to better the community... we all can help in one way or another.
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[Q] AOSP

Just curious if anyone was working on AOSP?
Yes. Please read the threads that are stickied before posting something like this. It's also in the wrong section But yeah, someone is working on it, no idea about ETA, don't ask that question. You'll have to wait a bit, not sure. But it is coming! K, no one start a flame war or yell, things happen.
If I were you I'd run very very fast and by that I mean edit this thread or immediately apologize for asking about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173532
Dude did you look around the forums at all? There have been countless forums created asking about cm10 and aosp and the posters are ridiculed to no end.
Yes aosp is being worked on
No we don't have an eta
Don't bug the devs just be grateful with the current stuff and let them work
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Yes. Please read the threads that are stickied before posting something like this. It's also in the wrong section But yeah, someone is working on it, no idea about ETA, don't ask that question. You'll have to wait a bit, not sure. But it is coming! K, no one start a flame war or yell, things happen.
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Oops hope I wasn't too harsh I just saw this , sorry if I was mean
Dqm56 said:
If I were you I'd run very very fast and by that I mean edit this thread or immediately apologize for asking about this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173532
Dude did you look around the forums at all? There have been countless forums created asking about cm10 and aosp and the posters are ridiculed to no end.
Yes aosp is being worked on
No we don't have an eta
Don't bug the devs just be grateful with the current stuff and let them work
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Oops hope I wasn't too harsh I just saw this , sorry if I was mean
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Why yes I did, but all they are is people saying stop asking. I don't see any actual answers or what is missing. I am not asking for ETA's or anything like that, this isn't my first day. But it just seems like this phone is about dead on the development side. The ATT seems to have much more of a following.
Topgun966 said:
Why yes I did, but all they are is people saying stop asking. I don't see any actual answers or what is missing. I am not asking for ETA's or anything like that, this isn't my first day. But it just seems like this phone is about dead on the development side. The ATT seems to have much more of a following.
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We have a lot of great devs and they work really hard behind the scenes they just don't like to be bugged or asked a lot. Thanks for being mature about this thread unlike some others. Yes it's on it's way, yes our devs are working hard. All we can do is let them work
As for what's missing I'm not the best to ask but up until know I'm pretty sure we were waiting on JB source, which just dropped last week
What's not working: nfc, GPS, camera, issues with efs & screen shadowing
Can we go one day? Just one day without a thread like this.
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No! Its a xda law. Lol
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No! Its a xda law. Lol
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It'd be different if anybody said anything different but it's always the same questions lol
Time to unleash the meme.
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One more for good measure.
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I just got word that all development for this device has ceased. I'm jumping ship now and moving back to my HTC Hero, as it's the best phone out besides this. Plus, Donut was the best of the OS versions. Please take heed to my word, and I'll see you all on PPCGeeks.
J/K..... Read more forums.
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Members please use the thread in place for this topic >>>>HERE

Why is this not a sticky in every sub-forum?

I ran across this in the Nexus 4 Dev forum..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483
So why is this not the header of every dev section!!! ¡
I know you don't know.. Lol...
So you guys think we should have a similar post?
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PJcastaldo said:
I ran across this in the Nexus 4 Dev forum..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483
So why is this not the header of every dev section!!! ¡
I know you don't know.. Lol...
So you guys think we should have a similar post?
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Definitely needed in this forum, seems like a lot of cherry-pickers looking for acknowledgment for cutting and pasting other peoples stuff.
Most roms out there are just cm or aokp with a few tweaks and cosmetic changes or a straight port .....always been that way and always will. Gonna be a real quiet dev section if "copies" weren't allowed. Most are just learning by doing this and sharing....I see no harm in it personally.
If we had more development than we do.....an original dev section and regular dev section may work....like nexus 7 forum for example....but with t989 I think moving roms to general or another dev section isn't necessary.
Just my opinion.
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Most roms out there are just cm or aokp with a few tweaks and cosmetic changes or a straight port .....always been that way and always will. Gonna be a real quiet dev section if "copies" weren't allowed. Most are just learning by doing this and sharing....I see no harm in it personally.
If we had more development than we do.....an original dev section and regular dev section may work....like nexus 7 forum for example....but with t989 I think moving roms to general or another dev section isn't necessary.
Just my opinion.
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If you read the post. Those ROMs could go in the general section until they mature past a learning experience.
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PJcastaldo said:
If you read the post. Those ROMs could go in the general section until they mature past a learning experience.
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I read it just fine. And my personal opinion (yes...imho) is that it just mucks up the general section. Let people flash the copy roms if they want...their choice. And like I said....about half the t989 roms would end up there.
I just don't think our dev section is busy enough to be worried about this. Some phone sections definitely need these rules, nexus devices for example....but the t989 dev section is not so packed that I think those roms are muddying the waters much.
Where do you suggest the line be drawn as to what is suitable for dev section? We have cm, slim, aokp, skyrocket ports and other roms being altered slightly and in our dev section.....they aren't hurting anyone...and the guys are learning a lot and sometimes making improvements.....but, are they original works? ? So they will all go to general section?
I guess then, to agree in part, I think an original dev section, and a regular dev section may be a better idea. Again....like the nexus 7 for example.
The noobs get slammed by enough unamed veterans already for not searching hard enough.....putting a bunch of roms in general will just make it messy and worse.
Check out the i9100 general section. A mess if you ask me.
K....sorry for the novel!
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Also....with t989 devs getting new devices and moving on....why not encourage and support the guys just starting out. Let them go at their pace.....they may be the veterans soon as our current top devs move on.
As I said, its the users choice to flash the roms they flash.....what's the difference what section they're in? To me....all roms should be in dev section. Much less confusion.
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Most roms out there are just cm or aokp with a few tweaks and cosmetic changes or a straight port .....always been that way and always will. Gonna be a real quiet dev section if "copies" weren't allowed. Most are just learning by doing this and sharing....I see no harm in it personally.
If we had more development than we do.....an original dev section and regular dev section may work....like nexus 7 forum for example....but with t989 I think moving roms to general or another dev section isn't necessary.
Just my opinion.
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Eh, that's not completely true about Nexus forums; there are a lot of Nexus only/original ROMs out. Most newer devices have two dev forums; one for original development (custom kernels, 'original' ROMs, etc.), and the other just 'normal' android development (kangs like stated above).
If you want to see the 'original' ROMs, check out the original dev section.
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Eh, that's not completely true about Nexus forums; there are a lot of Nexus only/original ROMs out. Most newer devices have two dev forums; one for original development (custom kernels, 'original' ROMs, etc.), and the other just 'normal' android development (kangs like stated above).
If you want to see the 'original' ROMs, check out the original dev section.
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I know what you're saying...and I think its a far better idea than putting any roms in general. Just too messy!
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Yeah. I see where your coming from. It would be messy and that may get annoying as well.
But to be honest there is to much leniency in this forum. Dropping straight compiled builds from source "to learn" is not helping the community and is not helping that person learn...
I can build from source and compile that doesn't mean that I know how to build a ROM or that it's a good idea to post them and clutter up the dev section.
I can unzip an already built rom and move some application files around and add some stuff to the build.prop. Does that mean I built a ROM? No. It means that I know how to use WinZip. And definitely should never be in any dev section.
Now I also know some c# , some basic, a little bit C++. Now if I or somebody else use that knowledge to take a pre existing ROM and actually assist in the development or fix problems or issues then that is development and that would belong in the development section.
This is obviously all my opinion. Some of you may agree , some of you may not, some of you might even be one of these people I'm talking about. And this is neither here nor there I simply think everyday dev section should have a sticky like this.
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Aroma apps?!?!?!

Guys I am making a ROM with aroma in it. Is there any apps or themes... in particular, that you would like me to add in? I'm all ears.
Jello is yummy!
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kj2112 said:
Jello is yummy!
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Thanks for the feed back.... Again
Porn tube apps add.....
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Porn tube apps add.....
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That's worse than some people's jello comments.... Come on XDA smarten up.
Justizs26 said:
That's worse than some people's jello comments.... Come on XDA smarten up.
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XDA is smart enough to know who's "roms" to avoid! Sorry, but not a very good track record friend.
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kj2112 said:
XDA is smart enough to know who's "roms" to avoid! Sorry, but not a very good track record friend.
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Yes bro. But I can't worry about what the haters think about me. All I can control is how I take feedback and grow. Whether you flash my ROM or not is your choice. But at least I have the decency to try my best and to keep my silly comments to my self ,and not to discourage people who make ROMs for my enjoyment. Maybe something some of the members on XDA should work on. That's just my take on it though. Everyone is entitled to an opinion right.
Peace out!
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Yes bro. But I can't worry about what the haters think about me. All I can control is how I take feedback and grow. Whether you flash my ROM or not is your choice. But at least I have the decency to try my best and to keep my silly comments to my self ,and not to discourage people who make ROMs for my enjoyment. Maybe something some of the members on XDA should work on. That's just my take on it though. Everyone is entitled to an opinion right.
Peace out!
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Constructive feedback:
1. Actually make a rom, don't just kang one, change the name and promise big things to come that never happen.
2. Communicate in your roms thread. Help people troubleshoot problems. Don't just give one sentence replies that point to basic fixes that most of us know isn't going to help. That's called brushing people off. Also, when a guy tests something for you, and reports it boot loops, don't just ignore him and never reply. Also....actually hitting quote when you reply to someone makes things far less confusing. And spamming your own thread with post after post in a row is messy. Collect your thoughts first and post once.
3. Keep your thread on topic. Don't use one roms thread to promote a bunch of other projects. Its confusing. People have no idea what they are flashing when you put up all these links to roms that have nothing to do with the opening post.
4. If people constantly flame your threads....take a good look at what they are criticizing. Sometimes they are completely right. Even if the way they said it was perhaps rude or sarcastic.
You say you control how you take feedback and grow? So do it. Grow. You've had a lot of feedback, granted some hasn't been presented the best way, but still....people have "complained" that your communication is weak, you don't support your roms well, you "borrow" too much and don't add original work to your roms and most of all your threads are a mish mash mess. Look at your carbon thread ....the carbon rom stopped being updated and you just started tossing test rom after test rom out and going on about future plans that never saw the light of day. Was a completely confusing and mess of a thread.
Why am I spending all this time saying all this? To offend you? No....I don't even know you, why go out of my way to offend you. Look at my stats, my thanks equal about a third of my total posts. I like to help. Yes, I don't like seeing crap go on and bullying.....and its led to my share of arguing....but I try to help.
The more devs working on our phone the better. So I'm trying to help YOU see what needs improving.
Please understand, we just don't need more and more drama here. And if you repeat the past, drama will follow you for sure.
See ya around
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And I will add this. Sorry to say, but I've seen you ask some really novice questions in other rom threads. Ones a "dev" should know the answers to....or at the very least be able to search and find a very easy and quick answer to. This makes it appear that you don't know a whole lot. Anyone can read a guide and kang or port roms, but why? We don't need a bunch of identical roms with different names. Of course some ports are nice, but you are not a "dev" cause you can port and kang and maybe cherry pic a few extras.
Why not learn some more before sharing projects? If you put out something unique and/or original ......watch the flaming stop quickly.
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kj2112 said:
Constructive feedback:
1. Actually make a rom, don't just kang one, change the name and promise big things to come that never happen.
2. Communicate in your roms thread. Help people troubleshoot problems. Don't just give one sentence replies that point to basic fixes that most of us know isn't going to help. That's called brushing people off. Also, when a guy tests something for you, and reports it boot loops, don't just ignore him and never reply. Also....actually hitting quote when you reply to someone makes things far less confusing. And spamming your own thread with post after post in a row is messy. Collect your thoughts first and post once.
3. Keep your thread on topic. Don't use one roms thread to promote a bunch of other projects. Its confusing. People have no idea what they are flashing when you put up all these links to roms that have nothing to do with the opening post.
4. If people constantly flame your threads....take a good look at what they are criticizing. Sometimes they are completely right. Even if the way they said it was perhaps rude or sarcastic.
You say you control how you take feedback and grow? So do it. Grow. You've had a lot of feedback, granted some hasn't been presented the best way, but still....people have "complained" that your communication is weak, you don't support your roms well, you "borrow" too much and don't add original work to your roms and most of all your threads are a mish mash mess. Look at your carbon thread ....the carbon rom stopped being updated and you just started tossing test rom after test rom out and going on about future plans that never saw the light of day. Was a completely confusing and mess of a thread.
Why am I spending all this time saying all this? To offend you? No....I don't even know you, why go out of my way to offend you. Look at my stats, my thanks equal about a third of my total posts. I like to help. Yes, I don't like seeing crap go on and bullying.....and its led to my share of arguing....but I try to help.
The more devs working on our phone the better. So I'm trying to help YOU see what needs improving.
Please understand, we just don't need more and more drama here. And if you repeat the past, drama will follow you for sure.
See ya around
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And I will add this. Sorry to say, but I've seen you ask some really novice questions in other rom threads. Ones a "dev" should know the answers to....or at the very least be able to search and find a very easy and quick answer to. This makes it appear that you don't know a whole lot. Anyone can read a guide and kang or port roms, but why? We don't need a bunch of identical roms with different names. Of course some ports are nice, but you are not a "dev" cause you can port and kang and maybe cherry pic a few extras.
Why not learn some more before sharing projects? If you put out something unique and/or original ......watch the flaming stop quickly.
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1. Thanks for your feedback. I do appreciate it.
2. If you have a problem with my kangs or ports don't flash in fact don't even look at the ROM. And bro you claim to try to help me. But if you are not trying to get at me why don't you just send me a pm. Huh? You wine and cry because I have links of different ROMs on my one thread. But I really don't even see the problem with that. LOOK AT THE OP. You can find what you are looking for there. Because posting my ROMs on one thread is better than having several threads with my name on it.
3.And I hate to break it to you. But a lot of my novice questions were asked when I was a novice. And I ask them so that I can learn and put more knowledge to my arsenal.
4. If you are tired of seeing the same thing. You better get used to it. Android is recycled material. And I only do ports for Roms that this device doesn't have to add to this device's arsenal. So please don't hate if you don't like the ROM being ported. Just flash another ROM. We have plenty.
Finally... If you have any more problems with how I develop my ROMs I really don't care bro. Comment bugs and fixes not schemes. If you really want a particular ROM from me pm me and I'll do my best. That goes for any comment you have.
Peace out!
P.S if you like to help don't put that jello garbage or cat crap on my questions. I don't have time for that bs. Keep that to yourself. In fact you haven't even helped me at all with any of my aroma questions just saying....
No one is helping with your aroma questions because you lost all credibility here, at least in the t989 section!
Have a nice day!
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Justizs26 said:
Guys I am making a ROM with aroma in it. Is there any apps or themes... in particular, that you would like me to add in? I'm all ears.
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Been waiting on a victim but u need another ctfu wlmao
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