Develop Bugs

Tidying-up/over-hauling the stickies etc

Over the next few days, I'm going to do a bit of tidying up in the various Defy sections.
The first part of that involves a new sticky in each section clearly stating what that section is for, what threads are or are not appropriate (ie no questions in the Dev section).
Hopefully this'll help cut down on the number of threads that need moving.
The proposed second part I would like some feedback on...
The act of stickying certain threads/guides/etc I've always found a little hit-and-miss and can inadvertently lead to unintended favouritism, not to mention you can eventually end up with a ridiculous number of threads stickied.
So the idea I had was that in the General and Dev sections (the two that currently have stickied threads), those threads would be un-stickied and replaced with a roll-up thread - kinda like this except there would be no other threads stickied along with it (other than the one mentioned in the first part that would explain the purpose of the section).
It's just a way of trying to keep the section as tidy as possible, though it's not the messiest, which is why I'm not 100% set on going ahead and would prefer to hear what people think.

A little clean up is a good idea.
I'm for a main roll-up thread in every section, that way the useful guides/infos will be easier to find/edit.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Do something!!!
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What do you suggest?

Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot

nogoodusername said:
Hate when i see questions and request in dev section!
Do something!!!
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Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.

support the idea fully (both), but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense. and the thread you linked didnt mention the 'all-in-one defy beginners guide' which i find very useful for everybody, so i think that should be involved too. and thanks for looking after the defy section, it did get quite messy over the last few weeks, months.
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Step666 said:
What do you suggest?
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Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
Maybe put up azrionach's(from xdatv) video about noobs on 1st page?
All I want is Dev Section to be clean
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Kayant said:
Best thing for now is to report the thread for maintance/moving that's what i have been doing with the dev section
Thanks again Step666 for cleaning up the ones i reported...... +1 on the rollup thread thread it makes things a lot easier for new users as they can find everything in one thread.
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I do nearly every day!!
Yesterday i reported 3 maybe!
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Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
CM7 + CM9 double boot

crakeron said:
Seems good. I myself have two popular guides in the general section you can't have missed (soft-sim unlock and double boot). How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
CM7 + CM9 double boot
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It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?

I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

crakeron said:
How will the roll-up thread work exactly?
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Similar to the one I linked-to, with a series of links to useful guides etc - except I'd probably go a step further and include a short description of what each thread contained.
There'd be one in this section and one in the Dev section.
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but have to ask for something: to always keep that one stickied thread up-to-date, otherwise it has no sense.
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I agree.
And that's where I'd need your help - whilst I own a Defy my primary handset now is my Galaxy Nexus, so I'm just not as clued up on things here as the rest of you.
So whilst I'd do my best to keep it updated, if there was a thread you felt was missing from the roll-up, then you'd be best to PM me and I could add it.
nogoodusername said:
Hmm...
What should we do?
I don't know?
Why do they post a que in dev section!
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Unfortunately, there's no way to force people to pay attention/follow the rules/behave like vaguely-competent individuals.
So all we can do is react to people who have posted in the wrong section.
crakeron said:
Is it possible to have two xda members governing one same thread? It would be best to keep a thread up to date if two people where allowed to edit the OP. Could it be possible?
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No, unfortunately the forum software doesn't allow for that.
I guess an alternative would be to have the 'roll-up' lists in the Defy Wiki where anyone can edit them and I would just have a link to them from the one sticky in each section.
niksy+ said:
It would list all the current guides that are to be found in our Defy forums at the moment
Voted for the roll-up thread. What suggestions could we have about it? Like, which threads should be included?
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Yeah, sure - that's exactly the sort of feedback that I'd want/need.
vap_66 said:
I hate it when someone quotes the OP's post after 20-30 pages only to ask a question whose answer was in the previously 20-30 unread pages. Also, when someone quotes a really LONG post only to add a short answer/joke/offtopic question or a smiley and an encouragement.
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Report them.

Step666 said:
Report them.
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Report them for what?
What category?
Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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nogoodusername said:
Report them for what?
What category?
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Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
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Haha now ull get more reports from me!!!
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Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.

Step666 said:
Doesn't really matter.
You can PM me directly if you prefer.
The important thing is if you see something wrong, you bring it to my attention...
Bring it on!
Seriously though, I really appreciate the work you all do reporting threads.
I couldn't do what I need to without all your help.
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Ohk... just wanna keep defy forum clean! Thats all...
Bless u!
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My experience in Q&A

So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

Yeah, I could have given it a little bit more time but without a status bar I didn't want to wait...
I guess instead of complaining about it, I will take the initiative to contribute my experience with the E4GT to the community. I'm no developer but I will try to help as best as I can.
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Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.

someguyatx said:
Did you flash agats ics theme over the stock fe22? If thats the case he labeled them wrong and you have to flash deodexed instead of odexed theme. It was mentioned in the fe22 thread, happened to a few of us but you would really have to read everything to find it.
I look at q&a sometimes but I learned most of the stuff here from reading and most of the questions there are because people are too lazy to read. I typically just provide a link to a thread if I do answer any questions. Yours is valid though I flashed and downloaded the rom and that stupid theme 3 times thinking i had a bad flash checking md5 and stuff.
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I flashed the odexed theme... I also thought it was a bad flash. I usually read most of the thread and the comments.
I just didn't read enough to see that there was a problem flashing over stock.
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This time it was buried and as dumb as I felt flashing a theme that said deodexed over a stock rom it worked.

Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.

You must realize that we all have lives outside of this forum, I too try to help out as often as I can with what little knowledge I have. Its the only way I can give back but I also work full-time and go to college full-time. So there are a few days where I can't find the time to post or help out. I'm not by any means saying that this is the case for everyone here, just simply giving you an example that may or may not be the case for some of us here.
I can almost promise you, however, if you give it enough time, someone WILL come to your aid.
I just hope you realize this and don't think any less of these people here. They really do put a lot of time and effort into helping and developing for all of us in hopes of getting nothing more than a simple "thanks".
I also hope that your next experience is nothing like the previous one.
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dev_man77 said:
Thats pretty demanding, seeing that you are asking for free help. You should wait longer, and if you cant, thats why its always suggested to NAND backup your stuff.
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I agree with the backup idea, but I'm not touching the backup restore functions on an ICS kernel until it has been fully tested and determined to be safe to use.
I thought I had backups of the SystemUI on my SD card but they were for earlier builds and would not work. I realize that everyone has their own life outside of XDA. That is why when I saw that my question didn't even have one reply when several other questions had new comments, I decided to just flash a new ROM.
The reason I have started this thread is because I am not the first user to be ignored when asking a simple question to ask if someone could help with such a simple issue.
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Mattix724 said:
So I finally posted in the Q&A section last night because I messed up my SystemUI.apk while trying to theme it...
I asked a simple question asking if anyone could post the stock apk from the latest leak... and never got a response yet.
I no longer need it because I have flashed CM9 since it was what I had on my SD when I flashed today.
I now know why there are so many users that post questions in the general section of the forum. This is the most disappointing part of this community other than the people who like stirring up arguments in the community.
If there is anyone else who has had a similar experience or that thinks that this forum lacks in helpful information, post here to explain your story and how you feel the community should change.
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Early on I used to answer every question I could but eventually most threads were answers before I even got there so slowly I stopped going to the q and a sec
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I live in the q&a section. Sorry I didn't see your post lol. I try and help out as much as I can
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jayharper08 said:
I understand completely what you are saying. I used to live in the Q&A section to try to help because there's not a lot of people that DO put in the effort and go out their way. I didn't get my "thanks" from being a mod, believe me, lol. I try to be laid back for that reason in the general section, but I can only allow so many questions before it gets overwhelming. I have seen a handful of members in this section that will see people through to get the help the asking members need. And I love that. Sometimes you have to give it a little more time, or a shameless bump is in order.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT
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Restored a lot of faith for me...patience is a rare commodity. Thank you sir
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Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.

akarol said:
Personally, I believe the Q&A section is pretty much useless and have never used it to gather or inquire information. As long as one uses the Search function in the forums effectively, there's no need for it.
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In theory, yea. But a lot of those answers you "searched" for are found in the Q&A section.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

I admit I don't frequent Q&A as much as I do General and Development, but if I see something I feel that I can answer then I always try to contribute. If it's something completely out of my league but I know someone who might know the answer then I will, occasionally, post that information.
While I understand OP's need for a quick resolution (although most questions in Q&A need the same) I agree with those who have advocated allowing a little more time for people to respond.
I know it can be frustrating (and intimidating) to be stuck on a problem with no answer but again, as stated in the posts above, sometimes people who can help simply aren't online at the time the problem is posted. Though I'm here a lot during the day (from work, shhhh) in the evenings my time is a bit more sporadic and I've come back to the computer with PMs from people who asked me something but thought I was ignoring them, that bothers me because I would never willingly ignore someone.
So I think Q&A definitely has its uses and maybe this post should be our tap on the shoulder to peruse it more often and see if there is something we can help answer.

To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....

Compusmurf said:
To the OP.
Why didn't you just download one of the stock roms in the roms section and extract your own?
just curious.....
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When most roms here are 1 click executable files its not so easy to extract the apk...
And with most of the roms that are zipped, they are already themed...
I have resolved my own issue by flashing a new rom, that was not the point of this thread... the point I wanted to bring up with this thread is that it is apparent that 95% of the users here only frequent General and Development. If more users just checked Q&A once and a while to see if there is anyone needing help with something that they have already experienced, they could easily reply with what they did to resolve the issue.
Let's all stop pointing the blame and help to better the community... we all can help in one way or another.
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[Q] ROMS

Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?

Have you even looked through the forums!!! Stop asking about ETA'S!!!
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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From what I've been told we they are really close, but again they aren't going to put anything out that doesn't work fully so as for a real time frame, when everything works and they feel it's ready for mainstream consumption

Why don't you look in the dev forums. That's where it'll be posted
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jbrooks58 said:
Now that we have a stock Jelly Bean Rom...how close are we to things such as CM10.1 and AOKP?
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dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...

Enzopreme said:
dude seriously?? wtf?? we've went over this with you before. theres 10 different threads about this... READ THEM. your making pointless threads and being lazy. please stop.
Mods please close this thread...
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It's nice to know that you guys are hear to help. I posted this in the Q&A you know since it is a question. It seems that you have forgotten you were once new at this as well.

Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.

[READ] Stop asking about JB ROMs and anything related to JB updates..

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Ill try not to ask as many questions. Once again I'm sorry.
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questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem

Dqm56 said:
questions aren't the problem we love to help and inform on anything we know. but asking for an eta when there are already tons of discussions on this and when there have already been multiple posts saying don't bug the devs, thats a problem
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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.

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I'm not bugging the devs...I was asking the community in general? Its just I came from the Nexus S which had well over 100 roms to the Optimus which only has 2. So I have just been confused why there aren't a few more for this device which is much better than my nexus. Im not even asking for ETA's mainly just if anyone knew about more roms being made. I probably should have worded it more clearly.
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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.

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jbrooks58. We don't mean to be harsh. You came from a nexus, a device that have open source to a device that is branded by LG running LG software. It takes time to develop for getting around minor hurtles may take weeks unlike on a nexus our dev community works hard and we now have a flashable JB zip. Things are in the works but there are a few things that still need fixed.
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Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.

jbrooks58 said:
Thank you for explaining! I didn't realize one was more open than another. I thought all Androids were open. I still have much to learn. Thanks for clarification.
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Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses

Haha...
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Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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I see both sides of this coin, since i kinda just went through the same thing. I understand that he was just asking a question, but on the other hand there are probably over 10 discussions with the answer he is looking for.
But on the other hand, you are newer than me even, so welcome to the community, try to read and search before asking questions, and try not to double post either, just edit your last post if no one has replied.

Yerv Melkonian said:
Hey man those listen to these morons it's not their fault that this is the only place in the world they're relevant.. Ask ur questions there will always be ppl that add to the problem and the clutter when one simple answer will finish the thread instead of being rude and keeping the thread at the top of the page by flooding it with off topic responses
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The name calling is uncalled for, especially when you're taking advantage of the work that these people are putting in. This community has enough negativity as it is, and we certainly don't need any more.
Egos aside we're all on the same team here. Either appreciate the work or give constructive advice/suggestions. Enough of the insulting.
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Also, alot of the reason we only have 2 roms was because we were stuck on ICS. Not many people want to develop on an older OS, expecially when we knew there was an update right around the corner. So it was the waiting game. Now that JB has been released, and the source code has been dropped, this place will start lighting up. This is one of the best phones out right now, and it will start getting attention. So for now, research, read, contribute what you can, and enjoy the ride.

In all honesty none of those thread touch on how close we are to being AOSP, so his question is relevant. In every thread you get the same answer, either "we have already answered that question", "when it is fully ready to go", "were still testing things so it's going to be a few more weeks". I want to make it clear that I'm not complaining, And am very happy with what you guys are doing, but if we had a little better information about what is going on and what the problems are maybe people would stop posting so much.

If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.

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If you want to know anything about ROM's/AOSP, go to the IRC. They constantly are talking about it on there.
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Do that, or msg me at [email protected]. I have most of the Debs contact info, and I usually stay up to date.
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problem making 10 posts...

hi
i am not a noob on android but yes as an user on XDA i try to make the 10 posts but each time i do the page send me the vulletin message...where are the places where i can post??

danis1997 said:
hi
i am not a noob on android but yes as an user on XDA i try to make the 10 posts but each time i do the page send me the vulletin message...where are the places where i can post??
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You can only post in non development threads. Just help 10 people in the Q&A threads and you will be fine.

zelendel said:
You can only post in non development threads. Just help 10 people in the Q&A threads and you will be fine.
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thanks man i think i understand how to make them

i've posted 10... but still can't post on developement

LubY1978 said:
i've posted 10... but still can't post on developement
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Promotion may be delayed a bit. Be patient, this is to prevent spammers from making 10 quick posts and spamming all over the place

feyodo said:
I am new one here , I also want to make 10 posts ,but it is so slowly , I have a lot of problems to be solved ，Butd it is need so me time
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Not being able to post is a good time to use the search button. Wont it be awesome to say "I found the answer myself!" ?
A tip : I find the xda app search to k8nd of suck (sorry guys its true) so either use "web view" or what I do isvuse google and put xda as a constant key word.
The thing is, a lot of times everything is found in your devices q&a section. And you dont need to havev10 posts for that.
Also most device forums tell you "all q&a go in the q&a sub forum" as part of the devices forums rules.
Are you like me and love to help ?
(hey dont roll your eyes me! )
Why not hang out in q&a for a bit?
You can help other and ask all your questions!
Great way to build up your post count!

feyodo said:
I am new one here , I also want to make 10 posts ,but it is so slowly , I have a lot of problems to be solved ，Butd it is need so me time
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If you have problems and you need the help of others to solve them then more likely than not your question belongs in the Q&A forum for your device. If you want to answer questions then you can do that in the Q&A as well. Either way, you'll either not need 10 posts because you have nothing to post in a dev thread or you'll easily be able to manage 10 posts because you are a dev and find it easy to answer questions.

Be patient...make the posts on home/forum/general,android,Q&A.....you can't on any device on development forum

That is a good point it seems like every where I try to post is not aloud I don't wanna be intrusive on threads just need some help

You wont find any help posting questions in the development threads anyway. All you will get is a bunch of people telling to post in the Q&A section.

I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
I ubder stand though.
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BradEK said:
I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
I ubder stand though.
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Look through the q&a section and answer questions and help people. You've been around long enough to know stuff, it shouldn't be hard to put out some effort to help..

BradEK said:
I wish there was an easier way myself. I have been coming here since 2010 to read and find answers, but when I recently had an issue I couldn't find discussed I found I couldn't post.
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You've been a member of XDA for three years and this is the first part you've made! Hardly joining in with the community is it!
By now you should be an expert on your device, so get out there and HELP others in your device's forum with their problems. You'll easily get to 10 posts if you share some of your knowledge :banghead:

Man Man..we already have 2 threads with same meaning & different titles.
1st one -> Alternative to 10 post rule
2nd one -> 10 post RULE is it helpful or harmful - Closed
Now, this is created again. I think we must ask MOD to take necessary action.:angel:

SimonTS said:
You've been a member of XDA for three years and this is the first part you've made! Hardly joining in with the community is it!
By now you should be an expert on your device, so get out there and HELP others in your device's forum with their problems. You'll easily get to 10 posts if you share some of your knowledge :banghead:
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Well. I had an original Droid back then. I switched over to iOS for some time and now I'm back on Android.
With a Note 2, Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus all rooted and with alternate ROMs I have more reason to stick around now.
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zelendel said:
You wont find any help posting questions in the development threads anyway. All you will get is a bunch of people telling to post in the Q&A section.
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work for my 10 post, open my block..

I think this thread has served its purpose and is becoming a hub for new people to complete 10 posts. How about a lock?
A Hero Can Be Anyone.

the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators

crampedagain said:
the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators
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I don't know what you're talking about, the installation instructions are always in the first post..

crampedagain said:
the development section has the custom roms though which is the only way to get help on installation from the creators
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kilometers4 said:
I don't know what you're talking about, the installation instructions are always in the first post..
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And even if they somehow aren't, there are numerous guides for flashing every device so you should never have to ask a question like that in the first place.

please port a rom

please port some kind of rom

Please unlock the bootloader, then.

Boot loader doesn't need to be unlocked for a port. According to thecubed that is. :thumbup:
I will be starting to learn how to make Roms tomorrow.
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there's already a good rom based on the stock one in V8 but the developer is on a chinese forum
i will try to convince him to post on xda too

daredevil061305 said:
please port some kind of rom
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Please post in the correct section.
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Please obey forum rules, or learn how to read.

link12245 said:
Please obey forum rules, or learn how to read.
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No need to be mean guys, though it is understandable.
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Jammol said:
No need to be mean guys, though it is understandable.
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I appreciate your optimism and generally good attitude. However, juniors who don't read the rules and have a general disregard for the organization and structure of this community are a detriment. They create extra work for moderators who volunteer their time and make finding information substantially more difficult for users of the site.
If memory serves me well, one of the rules is not to ask for development or etas, though it's been a while since I've peeked at them. Another is certainly posting in the correct forum - which this is not.
I'm going to be blunt, I don't think junior members should be allowed to post in the development sections. Moderators should have the ability to upgrade to a regular member at any time if they see a junior acting accordingly. Likewise, if you post in wrong sections and then abandon the section without reporting your post to a moderator to be closed along with an apology, you should be demoted to a junior for some time. This would prevent a cluttered mess to have to sift through.
It's bad enough we have a severe lack of development due to exclusivity and bootloader issues without the added stress of clutter. I'm not hating on the Op but it sure is disrespectful and I'm sure most will agree with me that it isn't appreciated or beneficial by anyone.
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Jammol said:
Boot loader doesn't need to be unlocked for a port. According to thecubed that is. :thumbup:
I will be starting to learn how to make Roms tomorrow.
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All the best ..hope u come out wit some good clean roms..
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Whoa let's not turn this into a mod hating thread man. I completely agree with the both of you though. It can definitely get frustrating though. I was just saying to the other guy that said the op needs yo learn how to read. I just that part was uncalled for.
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2nd.... noobs, juniors, seniors or moderators we are all on a learning curve and should respect all with patience. Everyone has asked a dumb question, a question that might have already been answered etc. I have and I can only assume all the moderators and or senior members have done the same. gentle reminder rather than coming down on members should be at hand. chill...... this should be an enjoyable situation for all....

scott0 said:
this forum is a disaster and not because of misplaced posts, in fact, just the opposite. we have 12 ****ing mods for this forum, 12.
that's prolly more than peeps posting in here. and they are the ones that **** up the forum moving threads around almost willy nilly.
i ask what peeps are using their qbutton for in the gen forum, that thread got moved to help. umm wtf.
get rid of 11 of the 12 mods and teach the one remaining about which threads go where.
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Also, many topics are directed to the big "discuss" thread. (the one that was started before this forum even existed, with a ton of useless junk) Why make people go through that? It's convenient to only read threads of interest...
And why mess with threads that have been dead for days?

mgd76 said:
Also, many topics are directed to the big "discuss" thread. (the one that was started before this forum even existed, with a ton of useless junk) Why make people go through that? It's convenient to only read threads of interest...
And why mess with threads that have been dead for days?
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No, they are directed to be posted in general or Q&A. That's not difficult at all. This post has no place in the development section, period. It's not hard to read the rules and post in proper sections.
This isn't a debate, this is in the wrong section. Development goes in development. Questions in Q&A. Accessories in accessories. Everything else falls in general.
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No, they are directed to be posted in general or Q&A. That's not difficult at all. This post has no place in the development section, period. It's not hard to read the rules and post in proper sections.
This isn't a debate, this is in the wrong section. Development goes in development. Questions in Q&A. Accessories in accessories. Everything else falls in general.
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I'm referring to the five recently locked topics in the general section... So, if not many, certainly more than a few.

mgd76 said:
I'm referring to the five recently locked topics in the general section... So, if not many, certainly more than a few.
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Didn't see those until you mentioned it. That seems ridiculous to me too. In fact I've never seen something like that done in other phone forums. I can imagine it being done for duplicate threads but forcing us to use s single thread seems ridiculous.
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First OP Thread Closed & Moved out of the Development Section I will ask you to read the Forum Rules on Posting.
The Moderation Team is made of volunteers and they are Members just like you, if you see threads and or posts out of place...report them, vice posting in this manner.
The Moderation Team can not be in all threads,...again if you find threads that need addressing report it, we rely on Members to point out issues/violations.
Thank You.