I ran across this in the Nexus 4 Dev forum..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483
So why is this not the header of every dev section!!! ¡
I know you don't know.. Lol...
So you guys think we should have a similar post?
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PJcastaldo said:
I ran across this in the Nexus 4 Dev forum..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1982483
So why is this not the header of every dev section!!! ¡
I know you don't know.. Lol...
So you guys think we should have a similar post?
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Definitely needed in this forum, seems like a lot of cherry-pickers looking for acknowledgment for cutting and pasting other peoples stuff.
Most roms out there are just cm or aokp with a few tweaks and cosmetic changes or a straight port .....always been that way and always will. Gonna be a real quiet dev section if "copies" weren't allowed. Most are just learning by doing this and sharing....I see no harm in it personally.
If we had more development than we do.....an original dev section and regular dev section may work....like nexus 7 forum for example....but with t989 I think moving roms to general or another dev section isn't necessary.
Just my opinion.
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kj2112 said:
Most roms out there are just cm or aokp with a few tweaks and cosmetic changes or a straight port .....always been that way and always will. Gonna be a real quiet dev section if "copies" weren't allowed. Most are just learning by doing this and sharing....I see no harm in it personally.
If we had more development than we do.....an original dev section and regular dev section may work....like nexus 7 forum for example....but with t989 I think moving roms to general or another dev section isn't necessary.
Just my opinion.
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If you read the post. Those ROMs could go in the general section until they mature past a learning experience.
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If you read the post. Those ROMs could go in the general section until they mature past a learning experience.
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I read it just fine. And my personal opinion (yes...imho) is that it just mucks up the general section. Let people flash the copy roms if they want...their choice. And like I said....about half the t989 roms would end up there.
I just don't think our dev section is busy enough to be worried about this. Some phone sections definitely need these rules, nexus devices for example....but the t989 dev section is not so packed that I think those roms are muddying the waters much.
Where do you suggest the line be drawn as to what is suitable for dev section? We have cm, slim, aokp, skyrocket ports and other roms being altered slightly and in our dev section.....they aren't hurting anyone...and the guys are learning a lot and sometimes making improvements.....but, are they original works? ? So they will all go to general section?
I guess then, to agree in part, I think an original dev section, and a regular dev section may be a better idea. Again....like the nexus 7 for example.
The noobs get slammed by enough unamed veterans already for not searching hard enough.....putting a bunch of roms in general will just make it messy and worse.
Check out the i9100 general section. A mess if you ask me.
K....sorry for the novel!
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Also....with t989 devs getting new devices and moving on....why not encourage and support the guys just starting out. Let them go at their pace.....they may be the veterans soon as our current top devs move on.
As I said, its the users choice to flash the roms they flash.....what's the difference what section they're in? To me....all roms should be in dev section. Much less confusion.
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kj2112 said:
Most roms out there are just cm or aokp with a few tweaks and cosmetic changes or a straight port .....always been that way and always will. Gonna be a real quiet dev section if "copies" weren't allowed. Most are just learning by doing this and sharing....I see no harm in it personally.
If we had more development than we do.....an original dev section and regular dev section may work....like nexus 7 forum for example....but with t989 I think moving roms to general or another dev section isn't necessary.
Just my opinion.
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Eh, that's not completely true about Nexus forums; there are a lot of Nexus only/original ROMs out. Most newer devices have two dev forums; one for original development (custom kernels, 'original' ROMs, etc.), and the other just 'normal' android development (kangs like stated above).
If you want to see the 'original' ROMs, check out the original dev section.
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Eh, that's not completely true about Nexus forums; there are a lot of Nexus only/original ROMs out. Most newer devices have two dev forums; one for original development (custom kernels, 'original' ROMs, etc.), and the other just 'normal' android development (kangs like stated above).
If you want to see the 'original' ROMs, check out the original dev section.
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I know what you're saying...and I think its a far better idea than putting any roms in general. Just too messy!
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Yeah. I see where your coming from. It would be messy and that may get annoying as well.
But to be honest there is to much leniency in this forum. Dropping straight compiled builds from source "to learn" is not helping the community and is not helping that person learn...
I can build from source and compile that doesn't mean that I know how to build a ROM or that it's a good idea to post them and clutter up the dev section.
I can unzip an already built rom and move some application files around and add some stuff to the build.prop. Does that mean I built a ROM? No. It means that I know how to use WinZip. And definitely should never be in any dev section.
Now I also know some c# , some basic, a little bit C++. Now if I or somebody else use that knowledge to take a pre existing ROM and actually assist in the development or fix problems or issues then that is development and that would belong in the development section.
This is obviously all my opinion. Some of you may agree , some of you may not, some of you might even be one of these people I'm talking about. And this is neither here nor there I simply think everyday dev section should have a sticky like this.
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In regards to what happened with strongsteve earlier this evening, I hope that you will come to the realization that you made a mistake. I know that you are attempting to work it out with Steve directly, but that resolution could, and should, be an admission of your misstep and immediate correction of the error.
I don't think anyone on here would argue with your logic in breaking the forums up into general topics. But in this case, the area was gray at best. If all of Steve's users and supporters knew his work and his information to be in the Dev section, what is the harm in leaving it in the Dev section? Instead, you so insulted a great contributor to the point that he felt compelled to shut his project down. I would strongly argue that that is far more harmful than having Steve's work appear in the Dev section of the forum.
I'm not suggesting that the notion of sub-forums be removed. We can't have chaos here. But in the case of something so gray, something so questionable, you made a bad call. Hell, I'm sure it is just a matter of time before this thread gets moved. But I wanted Steve and his supporters to read this, and this is the sub-forum they are trolling.
So I ask you to simply right your wrong. Because if you don't, a great many of us are going to miss out on some fantastic DEV WORK that Steve is doing.
So what I miss?
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So what I miss?
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Mod:
This is clearly a themed ROM - using a base that is a deodexed base of the stock ROM. This is not an Original Development ROM, but is a themed ROM - so it is moved to Themes & Apps. It is entirely appropriate to place themed ROMs in the Themes section.
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Steve:
I will no longer be supporting these roms or developing any more odexed modded roms since they are not considered worthy for the Dev section
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Just read his threads. His work is original development. Go read a dictionary for "develop" ... Jerdog is in the wrong. Taking away CIQ is not a theme either lol. He was the first to have it odexed, it is original
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I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao
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I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao
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I'm more civilized compared to others when it comes to moving threads. It's the internet,nbd lol
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Also in regards to "original" development. This isn't the international thread for the galaxy s2. They have separate sections for original development and the other normal development. We have one, it's called development, and the developer was only developing
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just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint
These guys are rough.
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just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint
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Not to troll but I'm sure this thread will be closed in a few so I'd like to comment about this situation.. I don't know the full jist but I would think that we as a community would do anything in our power to keep these devs happy cause without them we got NOTHING...Well maybe Rootzwiki but Like I just said....NADA!!! So I support Steve all the way!!!
Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have. Looking over the thread I can see how this decision by the mods is heavy handed.
What ROM did Steve make?
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Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have.
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Agree with this.
one less dev. not cool.
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I think you missed the point here - no one is saying what has been done here isn't worthy - quite the contrary. This is an effort to move things that are original development and separate them from things that are MOD's and Themes. There is a difference between creating a ROM from scratch and theming someone else's work by taking pieces from here and there, making changes and then zipping it up into an update.zip.
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This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!
This is not a school we are grown people that are subpose to make a community of something we enjoy since when did everyone get there panties In a twist and further more I like to see the moderator Dec anything cause last time I check every rom has sprints of base and everey. Rom thread has thank yous to other devs. Tweaks . Let us work together cause if stuff like this keeps happening people are gonna start jumping ship to rootswiki it ppc. And that's my 2 cents VERY DISAPPOINTED XDA!
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This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!
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Yes, you can flash separate mods if you are deodexed, but Steve odexed some of those mods that otherwise were only meant to be used on deodexed roms by their original developers. As I understand, he was working on odexing others as well. In addition, the other roms on here include all sorts of mods created by others. The all also give credit where credit is due, Steve included as stated previously.
Please leave Strongsteve's roms in the dev section as he has created the only odexed roms with the goodies we all want to have and was continually adding more as he revised the original mods to be compatible with an odexed rom.
PLEASE!! be nice to Strongsteve's he does deserve the respect..... at the same time I wanna give a shoutout to Strongsteve's for all the great job he has done. I thank you very much.
I totally agree with this and feel they are way off base. I support strongsteve fully.
It takes a lot to admit being wrong but that is what needs to happen here from mods.
It was nice to finally see odexed getting some respect not to mention the dev section for this phone finally getting a good amount of activity.
A good thing has been taken away. Please reconsider.
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Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Well, you see, they are previews. Other developers can get them as well, work on them, and all the devs work on the same project and it's most likly to be finished faster.
It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.
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It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.
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OP is right. There should be closed QA process with closed Betas and maybe a carrier approval process.
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It's almost like they are in the development section because they are still being developed.
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What?! That's an April fools joke, right? Cause there's no way those can still have work being done on them. I thought ROMs with no signal and odd auto rotations were normal.
On a more serious note I don't mind all the ICS ROMs in the dev section, as said they are still being worked on it's not like they drop 'em and abandon development on them. The devs will get a working kernel whether it's with T989 ICS source when it drops or not but I can only imagine how much time something like that can take even though it may seem simple to some
Now if it was just 1 dev crapping out the same threads I'd say that's cluttering up space
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Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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That's what I have been saYing! Pointless Garbage ICS Broken Roms!
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Well, you see, they are previews. Other developers can get them as well, work on them, and all the devs work on the same project and it's most likly to be finished faster.
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I might agree if they weren't just kangs of a non working base. Atleast use one that you can make calls from imo. A rom that you can make calls from might make more sense. All I'm seeing is people taking raver x's base and retheming it. Meh I guess it is what it is lol!
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I might agree if they weren't just kangs of a non working base. Atleast use one that you can make calls from imo. A rom that you can make calls from might make more sense. All I'm seeing is people taking raver x's base and retheming it. Meh I guess it is what it is lol!
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You dont know what youre talking about because xravers rom is AOSP and all the other ICS Roms are not AOSP.
EDIT: I guess you are referring to the MIUI port since its the only AOSP base ICS rom.
a) thats an alpha of a MIUI port ie nobody promised for it to be fully working
b) xraver was looking for someone else to take that project on.
Android Policeman said:
Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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That's the whole point of the 'development' section. XDA was meant to be a website for developers to help each other develop. The influx of smartphone availability brought people like you thinking the world revolves around them and every dev caters to what they want. That's why the moderators are so anal about people not posting things related to development within the development threads.
Mods, please delete this thread. Ego-centric newbie that doesn't understand the purpose of the forum.
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Is it just me or is there a sudden surge of broken ICS roms being released that don't rework? Am I the only person that find this annoying and cluttering the dev section. I mean I don't know about you guys but I don't wasn't to have to wade through countless broken roms to get to a working one. I mean what's the point of releasing something that doesn't even have basic functionality? You'r thoughts guys?
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Besides the MIUI and AOSP (lack data but still being worked on) the other ICS roms are not broken they work fine minus a bug here and there (auto rotation)
So no I do not see it cluttered
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Besides the MIUI and AOSP (lack data but still being worked on) the other ICS roms are not broken they work fine minus a bug here and there (auto rotation)
So no I do not see it cluttered
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Agreed
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Well, that is what you get coming to a development site, expecting to be spoon fed a working ROM as soon as you get here ...
This is not Pimpmyphone.com it is a development site, I don't think it is all the ICS ROMs that are the clutter, I think it is all the NOOBS and people who don't care to learn that are cluttering up the place ...
What the hell are you talking about broken.The only true issue with the i.c.s roms is the auto rotation.That is a kernel issue and is being worked on.In my option these i.c.s roms run better than some G.B.roms IMO.People everyday posted about i.c.s Leak or TMobile said that about it or I'm reading about it's coming.Well we are here,let's help these guys produce the best product for our phones.
FROM A GALAXY BETTER THAN YOURS.
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Is that an April fools joke? I have been going to xda-fullyworkingroms and it redirects me here now. Damn these devs that can't get leaked roms without source code working in a week. Foxconn wouldn't allow this, back to the XDA dormatories.
Were cluttering xda with more cry baby topics. If you read the descriptions you will see the bugs, no questions asked. Grow up or get an iphone.
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Why don't you appreciate what you have? You try to get make a AOSP build. Or an AOSP build from a TouchWIZ kernel. Or at least modify framework.jar or Res to get stuff working. You haven't done any of that. You will see how hard it is. Just enjoy the little things.
What the... The OP was probably the one crying about that we don't have ICS...now we have it and people still complain. it hasn't been out that long. relax and let the Dev's develop the ROM in the development section....sheesh!
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You ungrateful child.
Its kids like this that end up causing devs to abandon their roms... its so sad. I hope the original poster may learn what exactly xda is about. We are a development community. There should never be closed locked betas. Developers share their work to everybody so we can all make progress. No matter what phone it is never ever criticize the developers who are making YOUR phone better.
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I think we need a new thread on general about 4.2.1 discussion and issues. another thread about 4.1.2 This is for CM, AOKP vanilla roms. I would make the thread but I have no experience in putting all of these together
I would but no uses them they love to clutter the dev ROMs with the same stuff over and over and over. I tried to get a CM 10.1 thread going based off my CM10 thread, lasted for about 4 posts lol
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I would but no uses them they love to clutter the dev ROMs with the same stuff over and over and over. I tried to get a CM 10.1 thread going based off my CM10 thread, lasted for about 4 posts lol
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Lmao there is a thread like that on the s2 forum. It was very useful to find what issues these roms have.
Right now we dont have a thread like that. That can tell users including me and keep up with the issues and bugs these roms may have.
Maybe I'll really start working on the rom bible.
Here's the CM10/.1 thread I gave up on cause no uses it lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1813456
I'm making the "ROM bible now", only reviewing and giving a lost of mods on threads that have at least 50,000 views. I will create a link to others and label them as TW or AOSP influenced.
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I think we need a new thread on general about 4.2.1 discussion and issues. another thread about 4.1.2 This is for CM, AOKP vanilla roms. I would make the thread but I have no experience in putting all of these together
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Is it just me, or am I seeing more and more ROM's that are CM9/10 and AOKP/AOSP based being put in the development section instead of the original section where they belong?
Would asking a MOD to move them to the proper section be asking for trouble? I am just curious because it is cluttering up section and making it hard to find things...
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Is it just me, or am I seeing more and more ROM's that are CM9/10 and AOKP/AOSP based being put in the development section instead of the original section where they belong?
Would asking a MOD to move them to the proper section be asking for trouble? I am just curious because it is cluttering up section and making it hard to find things...
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The way I see it, they are technically Android Development, as are all the ROMs in the original section. And, they are technically not original projects since they are heavily based on someone else's work. Ideally we would have a sub section for Stock and a sub section for AOSP/CM based ROMS, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
I do feel your pain though. The Android section is getting to be quite a mess.
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The way I see it, they are technically Android Development, as are all the ROMs in the original section. And, they are technically not original projects since they are heavily based on someone else's work. Ideally we would have a sub section for Stock and a sub section for AOSP/CM based ROMS, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
I do feel your pain though. The Android section is getting to be quite a mess.
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Well that's the thing, original development is for the AOKP/AOSP and CM9/10 ROMS and Android Development is for the TW based ROM's be they stock or otherwise. It is so confusing...
I personally believe that all AOSP based ROMs should go in Original Development and all TouchWiz based ROMs should go in Android Development.
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I must agree as well, can be a brick waiting to happen!!!
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I must agree as well, can be a brick waiting to happen!!!
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Exctly. People can get confused Wth the installs.
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I do kind of aggree. why is there no one click aosp roms?
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I dont ...let the chips fall where they may...love the devs in any section thats putting in work....hell even the peeps that post in he wrong portion of the forum are kinda funny
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I dont ...let the chips fall where they may...love the devs in any section thats putting in work....hell even the peeps that post in he wrong portion of the forum are kinda funny
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Please don't get me wrong. I love any dev that is putting new stuff out. But.... When they are putting stuff in the wrong section, it is confusing and bothersome.
Only original development IMO is CyanogenMod and AOKP everything else is based or a copy of those two.
I'm referring to ROMs not tools or kennels.
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Well that's the thing, original development is for the AOKP/AOSP and CM9/10 ROMS and Android Development is for the TW based ROM's be they stock or otherwise. It is so confusing...
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NO. Original development is for Original work. Just taking CM source and compiling it is not original work. The Official CM ROMs and first AOKP ROMs ONLY go in Original Development. Everything else goes in regular development. There is a sticky in Original Development explaining more.
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NO. Original development is for Original work. Just taking CM source and compiling it is not original work. The Official CM ROMs and first AOKP ROMs ONLY go in Original Development. Everything else goes in regular development. There is a sticky in Original Development explaining more.
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so many are posting wrong than... As stated above, there needs to a section under android dev called "aosp" and one "touchwiz" and maybe "other"
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We can't start breaking down ROMs by aosp, tw, etc. Mopar, that's just too much for the admins. *Most* of the time, they are labeled and if not, users will just have to read for themselves (like they need to be doing anyway). If you guys feel like something is out of place, then you can pm any one of us in this section, and we'll go over it.
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We can't start breaking down ROMs by aosp, tw, etc. Mopar, that's just too much for the admins. *Most* of the time, they are labeled and if not, users will just have to read for themselves (like they need to be doing anyway). If you guys feel like something is out of place, then you can pm any one of us in this section, and we'll go over it.
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I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
I like to break stuff!
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I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
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Brilliant!
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
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I'll definitely be pointing this out to the higher up's. Lol.
---Jay--- From the Nexus 7
We definitely need to do something about the new guys and everyone else not following rules and posting in the wrong sections. Just in the past week, I have seen probably 30 posts get moved from General to QA. As well as new members trying to be internet gangsters when the get called out on their crap. I personally feel like punishments should be a bit more strict not just as a punishment for the person with the infraction but to save other users from having to deal with the crap that is getting dished out. I see a potential for a ton of good things in the future and I have a ton of ideas for structuring how things are handled. It is obvious that we have a lot more average users than we do admins/mods, maybe having a few more would benefit everyone and setting up a sort of system to make it easier for those mods and admins to keep things organized. I personally have had people tell me that I should look into being a mod because i don't take crap from anyone and I normally don't act like a flipping idiot when responding to the top tier morons that want to act stupid for attention. If a mod wants to contact me about my ideas and such, please feel free to do so.
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graydiggy said:
We definitely need to do something about the new guys and everyone else not following rules and posting in the wrong sections. Just in the past week, I have seen probably 30 posts get moved from General to QA. As well as new members trying to be internet gangsters when the get called out on their crap. I personally feel like punishments should be a bit more strict not just as a punishment for the person with the infraction but to save other users from having to deal with the crap that is getting dished out. I see a potential for a ton of good things in the future and I have a ton of ideas for structuring how things are handled. It is obvious that we have a lot more average users than we do admins/mods, maybe having a few more would benefit everyone and setting up a sort of system to make it easier for those mods and admins to keep things organized. I personally have had people tell me that I should look into being a mod because i don't take crap from anyone and I normally don't act like a flipping idiot when responding to the top tier morons that want to act stupid for attention. If a mod wants to contact me about my ideas and such, please feel free to do so.
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You can put all the suggestions and questions you have all right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
The admins and MC do pay attention to it, believe me.
---Jay--- From the Nexus 7
I agree with the advantage of having more Mods and Admins, but you need to be careful about having too many. I've seen too many other communities die because of admin bickering and the admins getting really egotistic.
Also, I knew where you were going gray, before you finished the fourth sentence. Maybe a bit more subtle with your plugs, eh?
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I have an idea to make sure noobs read the OP. Instead of a capcha to access the DL there should be a randomly inserted question based on the OP to get the DL link. If you answer the question wrong you can't retry for 10 mins, answer it wrong more then 3x can't DL for 24hrs so they have time to re read
I like to break stuff!
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Oh and it should be a fill in the blanks so they actually have to read to find the missing word/s
I like to break stuff!
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Something kind of along these lines was implemented into the JusTunBean inverted apps thread ages ago.
He was getting fed up with all the members who weren't reading the OP and continued to ask stupid questions so he asked other RCs what we could do.
An idea was suggested to hide a password in the OP somewhere. Once the password had been found, the member had to enter the password into an app which would then provide them with a download link.
The password was broken down into three parts and placed randomly in the OP but it would be clear which words were part of the password and which ones weren't.
It's just a shame that he removed the password because too many idiots were asking for it/moaning about it.
Probally will get royally flamed for bthis or have it removed, But for those like me that have to have wifi calling on our phones, is it possible for someone to make a thread with a list of ROMs with this feature. i would, but since I'm relatively new to this scene, and don'tknow any of thedevs, i wouldn't be able to get there permissions. I would make it myself if they would allow.
You can post info like this about roms, just don't post links except ones that are to the rom thread.
Unless you want something old, all roms that are built using the latest T-Mobile build, UVDMD5, will most likely have wifi calling. Just look for that build in the op and if you don't see it, move along to the next. If you want to cross reference an older rom to see if its a T-Mobile base, just compare to the build number in my firmware thread.
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So I can configure a list as long as I only list links to threads. I thought even that it was considered wrong to do without consulting the dev. Just dont want to step on toes. And if was to compile the list myself, would I put it in development section or general information section.
Sent from somewhere bizarre and no I don't want to talk about it.
calexchelse said:
So I can configure a list as long as I only list links to threads. I thought even that it was considered wrong to do without consulting the dev. Just dont want to step on toes. And if was to compile the list myself, would I put it in development section or general information section.
Sent from somewhere bizarre and no I don't want to talk about it.
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Yup. Perfectly fine to do that. You just dont want to post links to their actual roms w/o permission. Some devs like to keep an eye on download counts and stuff like that. This way they know where everyone gets the download link from. Honestly though, most probably wouldnt even care about that, but still its best to ask for anything else.
Id say this would go in the General Section.
If it is just going to contain info about the ROMs, you should post it in General. If you end up including anything like a FAQ or Q&A, then it could go in the Q&A section.
Never start a thread in the development sections unless you have something to release such as a rom or mod. (or at least the plan to release and are actively developing a WIP (Work In Progress)).
Never post questions or general info guides and such there. If deemed it needs to go there in the future, it can always be moved.
Kinda already have that....
mt3g said:
Kinda already have that....
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Shows how much people actually look/search and read.
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mt3g said:
Kinda already have that....
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Sorry bout that man! Been a long time since I've looked at it and just didn't even think about it.
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Shows how much people actually look/search and read.
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Like I said will prob be flamed but after several months if reading and searching and not finding I posted this question. Sorry for being ignorant and not finding that info. Since you say there kinda is one could you kindly point me to that thread. Thank you
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In general section. Linked in sticky roll up. Rom Bible. You can also use the link in mt3g's sig if youre on a computer. You can't see it from the app.
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It probably needs to be updated, I might do that today before work, if the time arises. But it shouldn't be too difficult to find them.
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