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updating rooted Desire to the latest OTA

Hey guys,
I've got the latest update OTA ready to install, but since my device is rooted I'm wondering what do I do?
I've read threads stating to just update and re root it and others say it won't go through and I'd have to disable signatures in clockwork recovery !
hence I'm confused, please help
Cheers
Jackie

Its not safe to perform official ota updates on rooted devices.
Most of the time nothing happens, you just lose root. But anything could happen from losing your custom recovery to a non booting device, which is known to happen.
If you want updated software on your phone install a custom rom.
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same situation, my question is can i apply this RUU from PC, and what will happen exactly? Lose root, data?
i found this RUU RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed

you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.

mikep99 said:
you can apply that RUU but you will lose root and all of your data so back everything up beforehand.
you may also need a Goldcard depending on whether your phone was unbranded from new or not.
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I know about the Goldcard. Any idea on how to do a backup, i have read about using Titanium but i found it confusing. Little help would be useful

yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).

mikep99 said:
yeah, just use Titanium and back up all user apps as a batch process.
Backuo/Restore at the top of the initial screen.
Menu button and choose Batch
Then Backup all user apps.
you can then restore them after you've flashed the RUU.
also, make sure your contacts are backed up (probably by Google / Gmail).
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OK, but there is an option all apps and data. what is data? is it app data?

Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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mikep99 said:
Just back up user apps.
You don't want to restore any system data as you are changing roms.
Also, make sure you do a nand backup to go back to if needed.
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Did it just now, went fine. Thanks for the help
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So there is still no way to just update by update.zip?
I dont want to reflash my whole phone, I got everything backed up propper
but I find it crap because its just a very small update.

Just ignore the update then, if your phone is working fine
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hmm an official update from htc, great. but if you are rooted and have tried a custom rom or even many such as me, then you dont want to loose that ability to flash great custom roms, just because htc released an update.
i am not sure, but i think that some users just unrevoked (rooted) their devices, but havent installed any custom roms and dont have the joy of it. i never want go to back to original rom. my future updates would be out of a custom rom. great forum here, love it

I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?

pt0x said:
I just use the stock rom because i'm happy with it.
I rooted my phone because some apps wont work without it. I would try a custom rom but I still remember my HD2 and all the reconfigging I had to do.
Can you flash custom roms without reconfiguring everything?
Like.. when I flashed the last update.zip (405.2) I just installed it and I could start using my phone right away after the update. thats how I like it, but im not sure (more unsure) that this will work the same when I use a custom rom right?
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so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !

jackie_jagger said:
so you installed the latest update.zip on a rooted device? and did not loose your root functionality?
I'm willing to reroot my phone, I just wanna know if a rooted device when update could mess up !?
I wanna try custom ROMs sadly I can't due to the rebooting issue, will be sending in for repair soon this week !
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Rooting your device voids your warranty just as much as flashing a custom rom would. Either way would have to use the stock ruu before you send if back so it makes no difference if your stock rooted or have a custom rom.
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Backup Before Root.

Hi all. I've been a happy One X user since May. Today I saw few ROMS of JB for HOX. I really wanted to try these but I'm not in a place ( and not in position also ) to fully setup my phone again when I revert to stock.
As I'll unlock the bootloader from htcdev it'll full wipe the phone. Is there any way I can backup the whole rom before root? I'll backup sms, contacts etc but apps, their data, settings, homescreens need time to setup again. If not the full system what maximum I can achieve?
Seems like a silly question but I'll be happy if someone comes with a solution.
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You can backup your stock rom with cwm and there are many apps to backup data, contacts, and sms. But it sounds like you aren't ready yet, you should do more research before you go flashing custom roms

You need to have root to be able to do a backup through CWM, and you need to unlock the bootloader via HTCdev to get root. As you say, unlocking the bootloader will wipe the phone.
Unfortunately there is no way around this at present.

DoeBoi said:
You can backup your stock rom with cwm and there are many apps to backup data, contacts, and sms. But it sounds like you aren't ready yet, you should do more research before you go flashing custom roms
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Well im definitely ready to. Flashed my Desire for 1 year. But never had been in a position to backup before root. Thanks anyways.
r2b2 said:
You need to have root to be able to do a backup through CWM, and you need to unlock the bootloader via HTCdev to get root. As you say, unlocking the bootloader will wipe the phone.
Unfortunately there is no way around this at present.
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Yeah just wanted to confirm whether there's a way or not. Ready to flash now.
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[Q] Does it possible to Root HOX with jelly bean the last OTA update?

seens like to be impossible to root my phone, tried everything, no success at all.

What did you try to do, did u unlocked the bootloader at htcdev.com ?

Mr Hofs said:
What did you try to do, did u unlocked the bootloader at htcdev.com ?
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yup. my bootloader is unlocked since my first day with HOX

And you did flash a custom recovery and made a nandroid backup and then you tried to applied the root with what ? I need more info bro, i can't keep on going to guess what you did and what you did not do
Do a nandroid backup of the stock rom and keep it somewhere safe, then go for a custom already rooted rom ! Have the advantage of a tweaked one ....why stay on stock

Mr Hofs said:
And you did flash a custom recovery and made a nandroid backup and then you tried to applied the root with what ? I need more info bro, i can't keep on going to guess what you did and what you did not do
Do a nandroid backup of the stock rom and keep it somewhere safe, then go for a custom already rooted rom ! Have the advantage of a tweaked one ....why stay on stock
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before the last update to jelly bean [stock], i had my phone rooted, following the steps on http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1533#tutorial
it was very simple to do, but after i updated it to jelly bean i lost the root access on my phone, i dont have any recovery installed.

Did u try this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734365
Your link gets me to the forum overview .... Not to an actual thread !

[Q] Is custom recovery necessary to maintain root

Hi there!
I know i have to search through the forums to see if there is a post similar to the one i'm about to write now. So if there is a similar post like this out there, i have not seen it and i apologize.
An now to the core of my problem:
Basically the title is my question. I have just flashed a stock RUU on my phone and updated it via HTC's OTA, but i want to gain root and still maintain the ability to get OTA updates - Which, as far as i know, requires a stock recovery image. Is it possible to flash the stock recovery after gaining root-access and keep the phone rooted?

Yes, you flash a custom recovery to obtain root that's good, after this you flash back the stock recovery you still be rooted, the root is in the rom and not in the recovery !
So you are correct :thumbup:

Mr Hofs said:
Yes, you flash a custom recovery to obtain root that's good, after this you flash back the stock recovery you still be rooted, the root is in the rom and not in the recovery !
So you are correct :thumbup:
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Thanks a lot, that's awesome. By the way, now that i have updated to stock 4.1.1, is the root procedure precisely the same as it was with ICS; Can i use precisely the same superuser zip and unlock token i used when the phone was on ICS?

Yes you can ! Its exactly the same .... and to give you a tip :
After you flashed the custom recovery please do a nandroid backup from the backup & restore option in the recovery, if you want to change things to the rom after that you have a safe backup to go back to when you need to update or have any other problem. :thumbup:

Mr Hofs said:
Yes you can ! Its exactly the same .... and to give you a tip :
After you flashed the custom recovery please do a nandroid backup from the backup & restore option in the recovery, if you want to change things to the rom after that you have a safe backup to go back to when you need to update or have any other problem. :thumbup:
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I know, i certainly intend on doing just that. When i read the post on how to get the phone back to stock and i read the part about how to do it from a nandroid backup, i seriously face palmed myself! Back when i was still using my HTC Desire, i never considered the nandroid backup because the stock software was so incredibly bad that i never wanted to go back. But now i will, my experience with the stock software is far better on the One X.
Thanks a lot for your help

[Q] Re-Root after OTA - Wiping involved?

Hi there,
I have a very brief question:
My M8's bootloader is unlocked, it was rooted + S-OFF and I modified the CID. I also had a custom recovery installed but decided to stay with the stock one in order to get original HTC OTA updates. So, after a recent OTA: Root is gone.
My question: When I flash a new bootloader and apply the root (mediafire) - Will any data be wiped in the process? Just asking because I don't have an (easy) method of backuping at the moment... no Titanium without root, no nandroid without custom recovery
Thanks in advance!
hunchi

hunchi said:
Hi there,
I have a very brief question:
My M8's bootloader is unlocked, it was rooted + S-OFF and I modified the CID. I also had a custom recovery installed but decided to stay with the stock one in order to get original HTC OTA updates. So, after a recent OTA: Root is gone.
My question: When I flash a new bootloader and apply the root (mediafire) - Will any data be wiped in the process? Just asking because I don't have an (easy) method of backuping at the moment... no Titanium without root, no nandroid without custom recovery
Thanks in advance!
hunchi
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Easy
1, flash custom recovery
2, flash superuser zip
3, look HERE for the backup corresponding to your software number
4, there will be a stock recovery contained within the backup package, flash it
5, you will be as you were but rooted and with a stock recovery and you will be able to receive otas as long as the conditions HERE are met :good:
Obviously the next OTA will break root but u know what u are doing now lol

Thank you very much, exocetdj! Consider it done.
I will probably not go back to stock recovery however. I *really* was thinking with this phone I will keep the stock ROM, but I was looking into the Android Development section here yesterday night and....ahh, damn it, I can't resist anymore
Cheers
hunchi

hunchi said:
Thank you very much, exocetdj! Consider it done.
I will probably not go back to stock recovery however. I *really* was thinking with this phone I will keep the stock ROM, but I was looking into the Android Development section here yesterday night and....ahh, damn it, I can't resist anymore
Cheers
hunchi
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Oh yes, the stuff on offer in there is DEFO better than stock!!!!!!!
Go on u know u want to hahahahahahaha!!!:highfive:

exocetdj said:
Oh yes, the stuff on offer in there is DEFO better than stock!!!!!!!
Go on u know u want to hahahahahahaha!!!:highfive:
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Yeah I most certainly know. My HTC Desire and GS3 wouldn't have survived that long if it was not for XDA-dev
But you know... at some point you have so much work to do you are really just glad if the stuff works reliably. But then again... All those tweaks and nice themes... It's just soo tempting...:laugh:
Where is my USB cable??

hunchi said:
Yeah I most certainly know. My HTC Desire and GS3 wouldn't have survived that long if it was not for XDA-dev
But you know... at some point you have so much work to do you are really just glad if the stuff works reliably. But then again... All those tweaks and nice themes... It's just soo tempting...:laugh:
Where is my USB cable??
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hahaha go for it