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I need some advice please

Hi everybody. Happy new year to everyone here.
I have a small question about GN. I already sold my T-Mobile SGS2 to get the GN. But since last night I am browsing here and all what I see is a lot of issues going on with the phone. But I am going to get it anyways. So my question here is the device worse the money I am going to pay for it. Is GN better then SGS2 I know there so many vs reviews but I want to know based on the personal experience. Also I am between 2 online sites to get from
http://www.welectronics.com
https://negrielectronics.com
I don't have any experience with online buying so I need some adivec please.
I am sorry if my questions are dumb but also the phone is not cheap

A lot of the issues people are reporting are signal issues which relate only to the Verizon version. It appears you have tmobile, so you shouldn't have any problems there. Welectronics is a chicago-based store and I bought my Nexus from them in person. They're very nice people and offer a pretty good price (I didn't have to pay tax because I bought it in person). I've had no problems whatsoever with my Nexus that I bought from them.

negri has some nice coupons you can find to drop the price even more. They also give you a years warranty through them. to the best of their ability anyway.
i'm on t-mobile with a galaxy nexus. i came from a nexus one. for the most part signal seems to be the same. I am getting better data speeds, but no where near what i should be getting (i've seen true tmo phones get 22Mbps+ when my Gnex gets 5Mbps in the same spot.)
only issue i've had with signal was at the bank atlantic center hockey stadium. it showed 3g but i couldn't make calls, texts, or anything. rebooted 4 times and no change. girlfriends phone (dumb phone) showed 3g and made texts and calls just fine. this was only when we were in our seats though. if i walked out to the walk way around the stadium i could call and text.
Only other issue is that certain apps seem to almost refuse to work on edge. facebook and the NFL app basically just crash or freeze when on edge, and on my nexus one that never happened. luckily tmo has vastly improved their signal here so i'm not on edge that often anymore.
aside from that the phone has been great and has the best call quality of any tmo device i've ever used.

I suspect lots of the issues are posted by either competitors or pubescent boys worried about their penile length. I have a GN and it's great.

Definitely buy this phone.

Personally, if you're coming from the tmobile Gs2 I think it is an upgrade. If it was int'l or at&t version I think you would be side stepping.
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Thanks so much. So I am going to get it.

NICEGYPT said:
Hi everybody. Happy new year to everyone here.
I have a small question about GN. I already sold my T-Mobile SGS2 to get the GN. But since last night I am browsing here and all what I see is a lot of issues going on with the phone. But I am going to get it anyways. So my question here is the device worse the money I am going to pay for it. Is GN better then SGS2 I know there so many vs reviews but I want to know based on the personal experience. Also I am between 2 online sites to get from
http://www.welectronics.com
https://negrielectronics.com
I don't have any experience with online buying so I need some adivec please.
I am sorry if my questions are dumb but also the phone is not cheap
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Every device forum in xda has complaints. Just visit any device forum you will see bunch of issues. Anyway don't hesitate in buying the gsm version, most issues should be fixed by software updates.
At this point I wouldn't buy any Android device other than the galaxy nexus.
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i have both phones (sgsII & GN) they are both great phones. I use the GN as mine main phone because i love the pure 4.0.
Personnely i see it as an little upgrade, if someone has a sgsII i wont say to him to buy a GN for an upgrade.
Ps: i don't have any issues
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commodoor said:
i have both phones (sgsII & GN) they are both great phones. I use the GN as mine main phone because i love the pure 4.0.
Personnely i see it as an little upgrade, if someone has a sgsII i wont say to him to buy a GN for an upgrade.
Ps: i don't have any issues
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I know it's not big upgrade but I love to have pure google. I am getting tired of the carriers till they think to upgrade the phone will be out of date.

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I played yesterday with my friends AT&T SGS3 and just wow the phone is so thin and amazing.
I had the international sgs2 before now gnex on verizon , just a question by january 2013 how much do you guys think the phone price will drop ? at least 50$ from 600$ tag? of course on ebay I could get it for 550$ so maybe 500$ by then?
Cheers guys

New GNex will be out, why would you get older phone?
Price will come down to 400 probably by January - on ebay.
Advantage of getting new top of the line phone is that it lasts at least year and a half before other alternatives come. And even then at 1.5 years there will be new phones which will be inferior to your old device.
I expect SGS3 to survive 3 OS updates - JB is already here, and others are coming.

i also really like how the thin S3 is
i agree by January you should find it for ~400, or even in a month or so if you don't mind buying a slightly used

I feel like my nexus is outdated and I sometimes get mad at the radios where other people have service and I don't , and yes I know that nexus shows LTE signal etc.. but when I can't text or place a call that means something, at this point I am hyped about GS3 and might sell soon the nexus

Is the Galaxy Nexus still a smart buy?

I currently sport a HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon and I'm seriously considering moving to an unlocked GSM phone + prepaid wireless. My question is do you think that the Galaxy Nexus is still a smart buy? Considering it's hardware, Google's hardware release cycle, etc. It would be one hell of an upgrade from the Thunderbolt... But I'm just curious what the general consensus is concerning whether or not it is wise to purchase it now (considering the possibility of a new Nexus phone in the future).

At this point of time, yes. But if you are able to wait for a few months, then just wait for the next Nexus.

Only you can decide if it's worth the money to you. We're pretty sure that there will be another Nexus at the end of the year, but it surely won't be $350. If you need to save the $$ and want the Nexus, pick one up.

I would just think about how urgently you need a device. If your current one is broken in some way, go ahead and get the gnex. But, as someone else said, if you can afford to wait a few months then I would get the next one.

it is a smart buy but i really hate the signal issues this phone has. i don't get 4G signal at all in my house and everywhere else in my town i get at least 3 or full bars of 4G

tjrocks91 said:
it is a smart buy but i really hate the signal issues this phone has. i don't get 4G signal at all in my house and everywhere else in my town i get at least 3 or full bars of 4G
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He is speaking about the gsm nexus which doesn't come with 4g also I would think it would have less issues than a carrier version.

vbman213 said:
I currently sport a HTC Thunderbolt on Verizon and I'm seriously considering moving to an unlocked GSM phone + prepaid wireless. My question is do you think that the Galaxy Nexus is still a smart buy? Considering it's hardware, Google's hardware release cycle, etc. It would be one hell of an upgrade from the Thunderbolt... But I'm just curious what the general consensus is concerning whether or not it is wise to purchase it now (considering the possibility of a new Nexus phone in the future).
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Get this one for a steal, or wait for the new and pay a heavy price tag.
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It's the smartest buy as of now. I just bought the SIII and I still like my Nexus more, its unbeatable if you want the best roms and developments.

tjrocks91 said:
it is a smart buy but i really hate the signal issues this phone has. i don't get 4G signal at all in my house and everywhere else in my town i get at least 3 or full bars of 4G
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You can force 4g.

I bought this phone a week ago and I am in the 7th heaven.
1. Despite not having the best hardware at the moment, it works perfect with everything Android currently has to offer. There's really no software that requires a quad core CPU at the moment, at least not that I know of.
2. Currently it's the best device by far for it's price / performance (software) combo.
Besides that, I am done buying devices near their release dates, as it ends up being an epic waste of money. Once the next Nexus comes out, in 6 months it will cost half as much as it does near the release date. Then would be the perfect time to dump the GNex and get the next Nexus.

$350---Yes

Yea,!! Another one of these pointless threads!!!!!!
sent from my Galaxy Nexus running official Jelly Bean!!!!

These phones are crazy cheap outright.
I gave my girlfriend my GS3 and went back to my GNexus and couldn't be happier.
This phone will be updated by Google for a long while, considering the Nexus S still gets Jelly Bean etc. Defo a worthwhile purchase
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I think its still a good buy. The new Nexus phone will probably be $700+ after taxes and the $386 I just spent for this phone is obviously a lot cheaper. Even better I'm on the $30 TMobile plan.

[Q] What's your next phone?

So, I am currently in the market for a new phone because I am sick of how HTC treats their customers. I was wondering if you guys thought jumping on the Galaxy Nexus would still be a good idea even though the Sg3 is out.
The Sg3 looks amazing, but it is kind of out of my price range with the average price being $400. I have found a few Nexus' anywhere from $200-250 which is more my style. The thing that worries me though is that it is already close to a year old and I know the minute I purchase one the next greatest phone will be out.
Does anyone know when the next Nexus phone will be out? I am due for an upgrade around March, but would really like to jump to a 4g phone before then.
What do you guys think? Stay with the inc2, grab a Nexus, or just wait until I can get something with my upgrade?
Any ideas?

I've had an upgrade since July I was going to get the sg3 but when I found out it was dual core it turned me off BC I was stoked for quad. Then I was going to get the inc4g, but I hate sense and I'm tired of HTC. I was close to getting the gnex on Saturday for $50 from best buy, but like you said its already a year old plus the 5mp camera is kinda iffy for me especially since the og Inc had an 8mp back in 2010! I'm going to wait for the galaxy note 2 coming out soon 1.6 quad core 2gigs ram super HD amoled running JB

I was considering a SG3 as well, or the GNEX, but I am currently satisfied with the Inc2 at the moment and will way my options when I am ready for a new device. I am curious if anyone has tested out any of these phones and had any opinions as well. I have not "upgraded" since they got away from unlimited data, so I am still grandfathered in and not sure if I will sign a new contract or just purchase the phone. The 4g is not a big issue with me as Big Red has not brought it to our area yet, and probably wont see it anytime soon.

Maybe I will wait for the Note 2 as well. My friend has the SG3 and the screen on it is beautiful. The one thing about the Note which I am unsure about is the stylus. I don't know how I feel about that. It's not like that is a big deal breaker for me, just something I'm unsure about. I have had 4g in my area since it has been released, for the most part, so I def want to go 4g. I am worried I will lose my unlimited, which is why I was starting to look for 4g now.
Samsung does make a great looking phone though. Colors are so vibrant on them. When the Note 2 comes out, is it supposed to be better than SG3 or is that phone still going to be considered the best?

kubes069 said:
So, I am currently in the market for a new phone because I am sick of how HTC treats their customers.
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It's not HTC's fault. They already gave the OTA to vzw a while ago. It's big red's fault for not releasing the goddamn update already because they need to bloat the **** out of it before they can be satisfied.
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kubes069 said:
Maybe I will wait for the Note 2 as well. My friend has the SG3 and the screen on it is beautiful. The one thing about the Note which I am unsure about is the stylus. I don't know how I feel about that. It's not like that is a big deal breaker for me, just something I'm unsure about. I have had 4g in my area since it has been released, for the most part, so I def want to go 4g. I am worried I will lose my unlimited, which is why I was starting to look for 4g now.
Samsung does make a great looking phone though. Colors are so vibrant on them. When the Note 2 comes out, is it supposed to be better than SG3 or is that phone still going to be considered the best?
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The stylus to me is just an accessory. You can function the phone without it. If I use my upgrade I will lose unlimited, but I'm only using 1.3 gigs a month. Not to mention my $200 phone bill and 2 unused phone lines. So upgrading will cancel unlimited data but I'll be saving $100+ dollars a month with my military discount. There's no real reason to use 4gig+ of data so I wouldn't worry about losing unlimited. Unlimited data users probably are getting throttled anyway. The note 2 is going to be a supercharged s3. Check out the specs on both http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-s3-4/1003595/
My only problem is whether to stay on Verizon or not. The Verizon version of the note2 is going to have the Verizon brand on the home button! I can't believe that. I'm super satisfied with my inc2 only BC I rooted. But the lack of ota is troubling. This phone isn't that old

Linch89 said:
The stylus to me is just an accessory. You can function the phone without it. If I use my upgrade I will lose unlimited, but I'm only using 1.3 gigs a month. Not to mention my $200 phone bill and 2 unused phone lines. So upgrading will cancel unlimited data but I'll be saving $100+ dollars a month with my military discount. There's no real reason to use 4gig+ of data so I wouldn't worry about losing unlimited. Unlimited data users probably are getting throttled anyway. The note 2 is going to be a supercharged s3. Check out the specs on both http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-2-vs-s3-4/1003595/
My only problem is whether to stay on Verizon or not. The Verizon version of the note2 is going to have the Verizon brand on the home button! I can't believe that. I'm super satisfied with my inc2 only BC I rooted. But the lack of ota is troubling. This phone isn't that old
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Do you know of a way to check the actual data usage without calling up Verizon? I also just did watch a few videos of the Note 2 being used and all I can say is WOW. This phone looks like it is going to be a pure beast. Also, you are right about the stylus being an accessory. After watching this video with it in use, I think I completely changed my opinion on it.
This is the video I just watched:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DcgZum8M1o&feature=player_embedded
Edit: Damn, I can't figure out how to embed the video so it isn't just a link.

Linch89 said:
My only problem is whether to stay on Verizon or not. The Verizon version of the note2 is going to have the Verizon brand on the home button! I can't believe that. I'm super satisfied with my inc2 only BC I rooted. But the lack of ota is troubling. This phone isn't that old
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I only have 2 options for cellular service, Verizon or Cell One because I live in a small town. I have been with Verizon since probably 2004, switching from Sprint when I lived in Atlanta GA. I have never had an issue with them as far as service quality, prices are a bit high but I will pay for them as long as I have good service. As for the Inc 2 I will probably use it for another year or so before I consider switching, unless something happens to it before then. I have only been using mine for about 3 months or so and paid $75 for it from an acquaintance of mine that upgraded to the RazrMaxx.

ThePhantom97 said:
I only have 2 options for cellular service, Verizon or Cell One because I live in a small town. I have been with Verizon since probably 2004, switching from Sprint when I lived in Atlanta GA. I have never had an issue with them as far as service quality, prices are a bit high but I will pay for them as long as I have good service. As for the Inc 2 I will probably use it for another year or so before I consider switching, unless something happens to it before then. I have only been using mine for about 3 months or so and paid $75 for it from an acquaintance of mine that upgraded to the RazrMaxx.
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I am from New Jersey love the service I get from Verizon. I have yet to go someplace that doesn't give me great service (unless I'm in a basement with no windows or something similar). As for other services, I have just about everything you can find in my area and from having friends I pretty much see everyone leave all other to come to Verizon. AT&T is the only one that can compete with Verizon in my area, but the only people I know that have that service is the Iphone users. For $75 you can't go wrong with this phone. It is def a great phone and aside from the lack of updates and no 4g that is my only complaint.
Nitsua, you say Big Red has the OTA and I have heard that before also, but how true is it? Is Verizon keeping the OTA secret because they are bloating it up or do they actually not have it? We may never know the truth until it is either released or they come out and say that the OTA will not be coming. Of course, I hope it comes, but I feel myself slowly getting sick and tired of the wait, especially since they promised up end of Aug. and now we are a week from October.
Yes, They have been late on phones before, but from my research, this is the longest they have gone after missing a date which really angers me towards both HTC and Verizon.

kubes069 said:
I am from New Jersey love the service I get from Verizon. I have yet to go someplace that doesn't give me great service (unless I'm in a basement with no windows or something similar). As for other services, I have just about everything you can find in my area and from having friends I pretty much see everyone leave all other to come to Verizon. AT&T is the only one that can compete with Verizon in my area, but the only people I know that have that service is the Iphone users. For $75 you can't go wrong with this phone. It is def a great phone and aside from the lack of updates and no 4g that is my only complaint.
Nitsua, you say Big Red has the OTA and I have heard that before also, but how true is it? Is Verizon keeping the OTA secret because they are bloating it up or do they actually not have it? We may never know the truth until it is either released or they come out and say that the OTA will not be coming. Of course, I hope it comes, but I feel myself slowly getting sick and tired of the wait, especially since they promised up end of Aug. and now we are a week from October.
Yes, They have been late on phones before, but from my research, this is the longest they have gone after missing a date which really angers me towards both HTC and Verizon.
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Verizon has it. How else would you guys have your ics leak . They have to perfect it though and make sure that there are no bugs. Also since it's an older device that not many people have, they are setting their focus on other phones.
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I'm not too bothered by not getting the ICS OTA honestly. There are plenty of ICS ROMs that are functional enough for me to use. I'll just stick it out until I can upgrade in July, 2013 and either upgrade or switch carriers. Who knows what phones will be out by then?

kubes069 said:
Do you know of a way to check the actual data usage without calling up Verizon?
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Play store has a VZW app for usage.

I have a droid bionic just sittin here. I may use that, but with that remote phone wipe hack I may just forget about it.The hack doesn't seem to affect the INC2.

my upgrade isn't till may. Depending on the inc4g, i will purchase it if its s-off. Otherwise, I think i'll be getting the SGSIII. My next phone has to be unlocked someway.

I'm really diggin the xperia phones. And it looks like most of them are getting ics in the next couple weeks. The ion is free on the us sony site.

Depends what's out by August 2013
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[Q] No nexus 4, now what?

Hey guys, mainly asking for your opinions so just let them fly.
I currently have a Thunderbolt and my contract is up at the end of November now I am trying to decide what to do next. I was fully anticipating going with the nexus 4 (I was prepared to never buy a non nexus device as long as Google keeps making them). Now that the nexus 4 will not be on Verizon and switching to at&t isn't an option since I get 25% off my bill through work, what would you guys do if you were in my situation? The Gnex is going to be cheap as hell when am eligible for an upgrade and am still considering it, should I be? Do you think Gnex development will slow down dramatically any time soon? I'd also hate to buy a phone with outdated hardware...do you guys run into hardware limitations withe the Gnex?
The only other phone that intrigues me is the galaxy s3. Mainly because it is so popular that I see there being a huge development opportunity there? I looked through the thread for the GS3 and it looks like there plenty of aosp roms and it looks to me like there will be quick updates for it as well. The biggest things I hate about the GS3 are the hardware buttons, I love the customisable soft keys in aosp and think that hard keys are so pointless anymore.
I'm pretty much against moto but if you really think I should look at something they have to offer, let me know.
Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated, thanks in advance.

pmr5019 said:
Hey guys, mainly asking for your opinions so just let them fly.
I currently have a Thunderbolt and my contract is up at the end of November now I am trying to decide what to do next. I was fully anticipating going with the nexus 4 (I was prepared to never buy a non nexus device as long as Google keeps making them). Now that the nexus 4 will not be on Verizon and switching to at&t isn't an option since I get 25% off my bill through work, what would you guys do if you were in my situation? The Gnex is going to be cheap as hell when am eligible for an upgrade and am still considering it, should I be? Do you think Gnex development will slow down dramatically any time soon? I'd also hate to buy a phone with outdated hardware...do you guys run into hardware limitations withe the Gnex?
The only other phone that intrigues me is the galaxy s3. Mainly because it is so popular that I see there being a huge development opportunity there? I looked through the thread for the GS3 and it looks like there plenty of aosp roms and it looks to me like there will be quick updates for it as well. The biggest things I hate about the GS3 are the hardware buttons, I love the customisable soft keys in aosp and think that hard keys are so pointless anymore.
I'm pretty much against moto but if you really think I should look at something they have to offer, let me know.
Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated, thanks in advance.
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My advice? Wait and watch. See how the N4 actually pans out as a device itself. It could be a hardware flop for all we know at this point. There were certainly fun hardware issues with the Gnex.
Then wait a bit longer for the HTC DNA. It might turn out to be a barnburner, or something to burn the barn with.
Then make a decision.

I'm not sure if the Moto RAZR i or HD is a good option or not for you.
Its up on you dude. go out & explore something new and one more thing that the GS3 is a pretty good option.
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I would wait if I where u. If u really need a new phone I would say the galaxy as 3 is a good choice. I have the gnex with Verizon and I love it. I dont have no issues at all my signal is always good i dont drop any calls or never go into 3g lol. (Must be my area i live in) Only problem I see u having is the storage capacity. The gnex on Verizon is now offered with only 16GB. No more 32GB. But as stated before, wait it out a few more months and see what's around the corner. If anything get a used nexus from craigslist for like 250 bucks to hold u over. That way up don't waist your upgrade on a phone u might regret
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25% off of Verizon's prices is still more expensive then Straight Talk or T-Mobile prepaid.... why not get a Nexus 4 anyway and stop signing contracts?

c0LdFire said:
25% off of Verizon's prices is still more expensive then Straight Talk or T-Mobile prepaid.... why not get a Nexus 4 anyway and stop signing contracts?
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The answer for most people? Coverage.
Coverage, Coverage, Coverage.

If you have a Thunderbolt, that means you still have unlimited data right? So if you're planning on buying a Nexus anyway, you might as well just find an unlocked one (i've seen used ones for ~$150-250) so that you won't have to upgrade. If I remember correctly (and I might be wrong), but Verizon only takes away the unlimited data when you try to upgrade.

No offense, but then he'd be stuck with T-Mobile's network and current lack of LTE. I root for T-Mobile; however, I was miserable when I was using them in suburban Denver, due to relatively inconsistent/slow data.
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davisbs999 said:
No offense, but then he'd be stuck with T-Mobile's network and current lack of LTE. I root for T-Mobile; however, I was miserable when I was using them in suburban Denver, due to relatively inconsistent/slow data.
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You can use AT&T's towers via Straight Talk if T-Mobile isn't great for your area. AT&T's HSPA+ network is pretty expansive.
Also, he wouldn't be "stuck" with anything - he could take the SIM card out and flush it down the toilet if the service bothers him. That's the beauty of not having a contract

I had the gnex on Verizon and loved it, except for one crucial issue-battery life. Sure, this was remedied somewhat by getting spare batteries, but this got to be a pain in the ass.
I currently have the Verizon SIII and love it (I find the dev community to be more than adequate). Yet I agree that it is worth waiting for the inevitable next greatest thing. The DNA does look to be badass
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Yeah the main reason why I stay with Verizon is coverage and my discount. At&t is the only other viable option, all the others are spotty at best around where I live.
Yeah I never thought of trying to get a gnex off contract. That would probly be the best option seeing that I'm getting married in June and will most likely have to revamp my plan for me and the wife anyway.
My friend just got the s3, he doesn't root or anything like I do but I can still bug him about the battery life at least.
My Thunderbolt has spoken.

Step 1: Buy Straight Talk AT&T Sim
Step 2: Buy Nexus 4
Step 3: Drop Verizon
Step 4: Save money
Step 5: ????
Step 6: ... CONTINUE TO SAAAAVE
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iArtisan said:
Step 1: Buy Straight Talk AT&T Sim
Step 2: Buy Nexus 4
Step 3: Drop Verizon
Step 4: Save money
Step 5: ????
Step 6: ... CONTINUE TO SAAAAVE
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I've only ever dealt with Verizon so can you include a few more details? Isn't straight talk sprint, but you're saying at&t sim?
My Thunderbolt has spoken.

The only way I'll be buying a Nexus 4 is if it's gifted to me.
I honestly want to wait it out for MWC and HTC's 2013 lineup.

davisbs999 said:
I had the gnex on Verizon and loved it, except for one crucial issue-battery life. Sure, this was remedied somewhat by getting spare batteries, but this got to be a pain in the ass.
I currently have the Verizon SIII and love it (I find the dev community to be more than adequate). Yet I agree that it is worth waiting for the inevitable next greatest thing. The DNA does look to be badass
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I'm not real big on the next best thing, the S3 would be in that category for me. Do you stick with touchwiz ROMs or aosp (or aokp)?
I have a sour taste in my mouth for HTC and I'm sick of waiting. I thought I waited for the next best thing with the Tbolt when I was coming from the OG droid. Samsung at least gets it right with their flagship devices. They don't come out with almost an identical phone but with more bugs worked out 3 months later.
I'll wait till Christmas and see what all comes but that's as long as I'll wait.
My Thunderbolt has spoken.

Smokeey said:
The only way I'll be buying a Nexus 4 is if it's gifted to me.
I honestly want to wait it out for MWC and HTC's 2013 lineup.
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How do you buy something gifted to you?

pmr5019 said:
I've only ever dealt with Verizon so can you include a few more details? Isn't straight talk sprint, but you're saying at&t sim?
My Thunderbolt has spoken.
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Straight talk offers an AT&T SIM that gives you unlimited* everything for $45/mo. I think it's actually their most popular plan.
*2-5gb of data before they start to nag, depending on how the stars align for you. Since, you know, unlimited is never actually unlimited in the US anymore...

If you are only with verizon because of the discount, try calling up another phone company and see if they can match the offer or sweeten the pot for you. My brother gets a corporate discount with Bell (here in Canada) and so he called up Rogers (who he's with), and told them that he can get such and such plan for such and such price and asked if he can match it otherwise he'd switch. I forget the specifics of what he got but he was able to get a discount because of it.
Otherwise, just wait like many others said. Perhaps you can get a sweeter phone than the nexus.

adrynalyne said:
How do you buy something gifted to you?
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don't be annoying like that
To OP: I'm in a similar situation actually, except that I use a GNex right now instead of a TurdBolt. Nobody knows if a Nexus 4 will come to VZN, but I'd probably just buy a GNex until something better rolls around later. And if you do have unlimited data, DO NOT UPGRADE! I cannot fathom losing my unlimited data at this point of my spoiled-data-consumption life. And the development for the VZN GNex is pretty healthy actually. Nothing to complain about, especially when you know you have a reliable connection at the end of the day.

I'm in agreement there, I dumped my tbolt for a gnex and it was a huge step up. You can grab one for fairly cheap off contract now too. I have little to complain about besides battery being a moderate problem. It still beats the tbolt for battery life by quite a bit though, and has given me better data reception. My main urge to upgrade is called 'upgraditis'. For now I'll be trying to treat the symptoms.