Class 10 micro sd card with app2sd? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I swapped my internal memory with ext data using Mounts2SD app.
And as I did this, I have less memory on my data partition so I decided that I will buy new micro sd card.
I was looking at some forums, and if I got it right, best card to use when you have swapped memories is class 6 because class 10 isn't working well with Desire.
I was wondering if this is true, so I am hoping to get some feedback from you
Cheers, bundo111

I had a class 6 and now use a class 10 card...AFAIK the desires transfers are limited to class 6 so wouldn't benefit from a faster card....personally I feel that roms felt smoother on the class 6

bigpeet666 said:
I had a class 6 and now use a class 10 card...AFAIK the desires transfers are limited to class 6 so wouldn't benefit from a faster card....personally I feel that roms felt smoother on the class 6
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i use a class 10 samsung, 32GB and i'm very happy with it.

bigpeet666 said:
I had a class 6 and now use a class 10 card...AFAIK the desires transfers are limited to class 6 so wouldn't benefit from a faster card....personally I feel that roms felt smoother on the class 6
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Are they like lagging more on class 10, or they are just slower?
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bundo111 said:
Are they like lagging more on class 10, or they are just slower?
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They give the speed of a class 6 sd-card.

Thanks guys. I guess I will probably get class 10 then

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What MicroSD Classes Work with the Desire...?

My question was concerning my 16gb Class 6 card (which actually appeared to be corrupt/broke'd anyway)
I asked about compatibly with the Desire...
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In regards to SD Cards
I can help you with that.
The card that you are trying to use is not compatible with the phone as the class is too high speed for the device to be able to keep up with the speed. I have included a link to a webpage with the sd cards that are compatible with that device.
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If you look under the accessory tab then down the bottom is compatible memory.
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I'm sure I read some threads about class 10's working fine in the Desire?
The link seems to suggest only a class 2 or a class 4 will work...
I'm using a class 4 without problems so far.
On a dutch board I read a guy was using a class 6 on Starbust so it should be possible I think.
I've just bought a 16gb class 4 Sandisk and the speed tests show it as being quite a bit faster than my class 4 (non Sandisk) 8gb card!
I'm using class 4, working fine
I'm using a 8GB class 6 card with Custom ROM and A2SD with no problem. Been over 6 months now.
A lot of class 10 cards have issues, class 6 seems to be the most reliable thus far. Some people have had good experiences with A-DATA 16gb class 10.
So from user experience - a good Class 6/10 card should work just fine?
Lothaen said:
So from user experience - a good Class 6/10 card should work just fine?
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Yes, it should. Have no problems, with mine
Lothaen said:
So from user experience - a good Class 6/10 card should work just fine?
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For C6 yes.
For C10 Mostly yes... but usually class 10 is not really faster... so save the money.
Just my two cents.
I'm using Transcend 8GB class 6 without any problem. Try to format by gparted or similiar. Are you using it for any other purpose than storing photos, music or etc? For example for data2sd or apps2sd?
I just bought a transcend 16gb class 6, working perfectly so far with no problems.
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Bartyzel said:
I'm using Transcend 8GB class 6 without any problem. Try to format by gparted or similiar. Are you using it for any other purpose than storing photos, music or etc? For example for data2sd or apps2sd?
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I bought a 16gb class 6 to use with data2sd but struggled as the card was broken - so i've sent it back and just have the 8gb class 2 that i got with my phone now - and on stock rom again, so it is just photos and music and froyo app2sd at the moment
basically all branded cards will work fine, the thing you shoud be concerned more onthe capacity you are gonna use. It aint worth buying a 16GB sd when u cant fill even half of it with useful stuff
If speed is your thing then get a class 4 or 6 but I had SD mounted as read only with a class 4 8 gig Kingston SD, so I swooped with a buddy of mine for a class 2 SD from a Nokia n95, no problems since then.
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Witch Of Theses Sd card should I pick?

First is Samsungs new class10
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21373672/Samsung-16GB-Plus-Micro-SD-Card-Class-10/Product.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=sd+cards+class+6&urlrefer=search
Second is Samsungs new class6
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21373670/Samsung-16GB-Essential-Micro-SD-Memory-Card-Class-6/Product.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=sd+cards+class+6&urlrefer=search
Both have read speeds of 24MB and both come out on first of august. For the price you cant really go wrong and nice size also 16gb.
I really would like the class10 only thing stopping me is alot of people having bad performance with the desire. Would they be much difference between the two?
Thanks All help welcome, And I do give THANKS
No one have any info on theses?
Couldn't tell you but I've only had problems with Samsung products in the past.. why not sandisk?
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TNPaparazzi said:
Couldn't tell you but I've only had problems with Samsung products in the past.. why not sandisk?
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I have used samsung alot and not had problems with them, and am liking the price of theses ones. even the sd card that comes with the desire is a samsung card, so maybe this class10 will work well.
Not sure the class 10 would be the same speed as the class 6 .. otherwise what would be the point in getting a class 10 ?
Class 10's are faster, but there are a few issues floating around .
A good class 6 will do the trick very well .
dgattenb said:
Not sure the class 10 would be the same speed as the class 6 .. otherwise what would be the point in getting a class 10 ?
Class 10's are faster, but there are a few issues floating around .
A good class 6 will do the trick very well .
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Its the write speed thats different the read speed is the same, they say on the site
Am thinking just go with the class6 that way I know its going to work.
Just called HTC and they said class 10 is not supported, they said there htc desire is fully supports class 2, 4, 6
so looks like am buying class 6
i suggest you a Sandisk's MicroSD. They are the fastest.
Higher microsd class parameter don't mean that your phone will run faster.
Some microsd have high speeds for small files and low speeds for bigger ones and others have opposite skills.
so a class2 can run more faster your phone than a class 10
shankly1985 said:
Just called HTC and they said class 10 is not supported, they said there htc desire is fully supports class 2, 4, 6
so looks like am buying class 6
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i have a class 10 in mine, works fine. (this one: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...archsource=0&searchstring=pny&urlrefer=search )
there's also this:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21618986/Play-com-16GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-Memory-Card-Class-10/Product.html?P36=UXJHH4&affid=hotukdeals&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:hotukdeals
no idea how good the play branded one is - but the PNY one does the job for me
when i read up it said the class was just the min. write speed. so you can have a class 2 writing as fast if not more than a class 10, its just the min that can change
shankly1985 said:
Just called HTC and they said class 10 is not supported, they said there htc desire is fully supports class 2, 4, 6
so looks like am buying class 6
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Well there is obviously someone there that you talk to, that don't know s**t about they're products, Desire support class 10 with no problems.
you can read here two, and there are alot of users that can prove that class 10 is working perfectly on Desire.
Thanks guys, Yer I have seen alot of people on here using class10 fine and also seen alot of complaints about them. So I have already ordered the Samsung class6 16GB. Witch to be fair shouldn't be much difference in the two
Lothaen said:
i have a class 10 in mine, works fine. (this one: http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...archsource=0&searchstring=pny&urlrefer=search )
there's also this:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/21618986/Play-com-16GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-Memory-Card-Class-10/Product.html?P36=UXJHH4&affid=hotukdeals&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:hotukdeals
no idea how good the play branded one is - but the PNY one does the job for me
when i read up it said the class was just the min. write speed. so you can have a class 2 writing as fast if not more than a class 10, its just the min that can change
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PNY is a great card, am using there class4 from play.com, I been using Droidzone's Data2SD RoMs fine with class4, but other day started using MIUI RoM, (superb RoM) but am getting FCs and lag so MIUI must use SD card alot more. I have gone with Samsung this time because ive used there SD Cards lot in other phones even the stock desire sd card is from Samsung and I know there first class
Get the class 10 card
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[Q] Class ? for memory card support?

Hello all
as i m unaware
that what Class does G2 support it at best performance?
i am buying 16GB MMC SDHC of class 4?
can anyone say me will it support good with class 4?
or any better class memory card with class 6,8,10 any one which also works well with G2 ??
i am upgrading my memory and knowledge
plz reply
Regards
Bhadresh.
bhadresh said:
Hello all
as i m unaware
that what Class does G2 support it at best performance?
i am buying 16GB MMC SDHC of class 4?
can anyone say me will it support good with class 4?
or any better class memory card with class 6,8,10 any one which also works well with G2 ??
i am upgrading my memory and knowledge
plz reply
Regards
Bhadresh.
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G2 works best with class 4
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I am running a 16gb class 10.... no problems.
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I think most people are using a class 4 SD card, but if you want to get something higher go ahead. Something with a higher class may get you some speed increase if you have apps installed on the SD card, but if you are using it purely for storage then go with a class 4.
also some people have problems with higher class cards. there also isnt much diffrence in speed between sdcards
I have found there to be a huge speed increase in sustained read/writes. Moving movies or music from pc to phone and vice_versa.
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I updated to class 10 card - no problems so far
i have a class 4 32GB no problems here, but i have heard people having problems with the calls 10 cards, i wanted a class 6 32GB but i had no luck finding one, much less at a decent price lol.
Also stick to well known brands, I've heard of problems with little known brands. I've had no problems with sandisk and adata.
Yes get a class 4 or 6.. dont get a 10 since not all devices support it.

best class of SdCard to get

Hey everyone,
I'm thinking of getting a 32 microsd. Card for my S3. I was wondering if a class 10 is necessary or would a class 4 or 6 be sufficient?
Thanks.
Class 6 is sufficent I read somewhere that class 10 is good for taking pictures or something but for this phone class 6 is enough.
It depends on what you'll be doing. Personally, I'd go for a UHS-1 class card. They're just above class 10. Sandisk has a 32GB one for about $40 on Newegg.com. That's what I'm using right now. It has been awesome thus far.
uhs are useless for this phone, no phone on the market supports this feature.
just get the best you can afford, anything above class 4 is enough, but prices aren't much different, so a class 6 or 10 can be in reach.
kms108 said:
uhs are useless for this phone, no phone on the market supports this feature.
just get the best you can afford, anything above class 4 is enough, but prices aren't much different, so a class 6 or 10 can be in reach.
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That might be the case on the international version, but when I'm taking pictures my UHS card it certainly seems to record them faster on my US - AT&T version. I wonder if anyone has done any any read/ write benchmarks to see for sure.
But I do agree, unless you have a need for speed, anything over class 4 should be good for everyday use.
WA_Bob said:
That might be the case on the international version, but when I'm taking pictures my UHS card it certainly seems to record them faster on my US - AT&T version. I wonder if anyone has done any any read/ write benchmarks to see for sure.
But I do agree, unless you have a need for speed, anything over class 4 should be good for everyday use.
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i standby what i said, no phone supports uhs, unless you can prove otherwise.
What about if you use it as USB mass storage? Or making backups
of it? Or it's still limited even though that?
i personally have about 10 class 10 16gbs, and around 12 class 10 32gb, and 4 class 6 64gbs. granted i use only 3 or 4 of them i just have a alot extra. i sued to work at best buy mobile and came up on a lot. couple months ago best buy sold a class 6 64gb online for $45. keep an eye out and look for deals. i do see a big difference in the class of cards. i usually have music and various roms and what not.
What about playing roms saved on sd cards would you notice a difference between class 6 and 10
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j1mmyc said:
What about playing roms saved on sd cards would you notice a difference between class 6 and 10
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it's not the card, it's the phone thats preventing the card to reach the limit.
a class 4-10 will work on the s3, you won't notice much of a differences.
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if you want the fastest card on the market, but not for the S3, you only choice is the sandisk microsdhc extreme pro with upto 95mb/s transfer speed and only available so far 8GB and 16Gb.
or you can consider the adata microsdhc premier pro read 45mb/s and write 40mb/s available in 8gb, 16gb and 32gb.
as with both cards you need a uhs reader to reach the stated speed, otherwise you will only get max read 25mb/s and write 23mb/s which is the standard speed set for sdhc.
Class 6 is the sweet spot
Class 4 should be sufficient enough for normal phone use tho?
unless you are using DSLR perhaps?
mr_trisx said:
Class 4 should be sufficient enough for normal phone use tho?
unless you are using DSLR perhaps?
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Yea class 4 is fine
Class 4 - Good
Class 6 Excellent
Class 10 Overboard
Interesting post: UHS-1 cards may actually perform slower than class 10 in the S3.
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/565033-class-10-vs-uhs-1-cards.html#post4646683
I bought a SanDisk 32gb class 4 for $16.xx shipped on eBay. I only use it for music on on my phone. The ~16gb internal is more than sufficient for pictures and etc.
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jnicks510 said:
I bought a SanDisk 32gb class 4 for $16.xx shipped on eBay. I only use it for music on on my phone. The ~16gb internal is more than sufficient for pictures and etc.
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You should look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783809
Its not exactly a common brand like sandisk though..
class 4 has faster ram, class 10 has faster sequential write speeds
class 4 is better for every day, random use
class 10 is better for downloads and recording/playback of large files and HD movies
i386W7 said:
You should look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783809
Its not exactly a common brand like sandisk though..
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I'm a bit ocd about my phone so my accessories have to be name brand lol XD
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Class 10 UHS-I cards on Desire?

I am thinking of getting SanDisk 16GB Mobile Ultra Class 10 UHS-I Micro SD SDHC like that one.
I know I will not reach 10 Class speed but I need to replace my current card and this is the only thing I found from SanDisk.
Can I expect it to perform flawlessly with HTC Desire?
impactor said:
I am thinking of getting SanDisk 16GB Mobile Ultra Class 10 UHS-I Micro SD SDHC like that one.
I know I will not reach 10 Class speed but I need to replace my current card and this is the only thing I found from SanDisk.
Can I expect it to perform flawlessly with HTC Desire?
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I am using this and works flawlessly
impactor said:
I am thinking of getting SanDisk 16GB Mobile Ultra Class 10 UHS-I Micro SD SDHC like that one.
I know I will not reach 10 Class speed but I need to replace my current card and this is the only thing I found from SanDisk.
Can I expect it to perform flawlessly with HTC Desire?
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I am using the same card as well, and it works perfectly. With full class 10 speeds as well.
I am using this as well... No problem at all... Getting much faster speed..
Thanks all. The reason I need to change my sd card is because right now I have a Samsung 8GB Class 6 which is fast enough in transfers but slow in initialisation and newer ICS/JB roms can't even detect it.
What rom are you using with this card?
has anybody noticed a performance increase while using a UHS-I card compared to class 10 or class 6.
Desire needs sd with high IO because of the low internal memory. Now the question, which cards have higher IO? Class 6 or 10 or UHS-I?
Im using a 16 gb uhs class 10 and no issues at all
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Well, I got my own card and indeed it is working perfectly fine.
Would putting a swap partition on it decrease its lifespan noticeably?
have someone tried the 32gb class 10 version? does it work well with int2ext+ or m2sd?
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I am thinking of getting SanDisk 16GB Mobile Ultra Class 10 UHS-I Micro SD SDHC like that one.
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"Mobile Ultra" is class 6 and "Ultra" is class 10. I don't know if there are any other differences apart from speed.
The link you gave is actually selling an "Ultra", although the title is "Mobile Ultra"
Note, I would never buy an SD card on ebay because of the number of fakes (especially Sandisk apparently)
You can get 16GB "Mobile Ultra" on Amazon for £11.45, ie same price as ebay.
Or a 32GB "Mobile Ultra" on Amazon for £22.99
Or a 32GB "Ultra" on Amazon for £18.54
No, I don't know why the class 10 is cheaper than the class 6. However... "class 6" just means that's the minimum guaranteed speed, it might be faster.
NB from what I've read, most class 10 cards don't work on the HTC Desire at all, but some do* However I've also read that internally the Desire can't read at more than 6mb/s whatever you put in there.
*People seem to have success with ADATA 16mb class 10, but someone else said their SanDisk 10 worked, whereas others say the same card didn't work. YMMV
tobydjones said:
AFAIK "Mobile Ultra" is class 6 and "Ultra" is class 10. I don't know if there are any other differences apart from speed.
The link you gave is actually selling an "Ultra", although the title is "Mobile Ultra"
Note, I would never buy an SD card on ebay because of the number of fakes (especially Sandisk apparently)
You can get 16GB "Mobile Ultra" on Amazon for £11.45, ie same price as ebay.
Or a 32GB "Mobile Ultra" on Amazon for £22.99
Or a 32GB "Ultra" on Amazon for £18.54
No, I don't know why the class 10 is cheaper than the class 6.
However... "class 6" just means that's the minimum speed, it might be faster.
BUT from what I've read, the HTC Desire will accept a class 10 card, but only has a class 6 transfer bus, so it can't use it any faster anyway.
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Not quite right since all sandisk mobile ultra micro sd cards are UHS-1 class cards fastest cards faster than class 10.
They run at double the frequency in a UHS-1 compatible device.
Will still work in the desire just much slower. I get around class 10 speeds from my 8gb .mobile ultra
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dethrat said:
Not quite right since all sandisk mobile ultra micro sd cards are UHS-1 class cards fastest cards faster than class 10.
They run at double the frequency in a UHS-1 compatible device.
Will still work in the desire just much slower. I get around class 10 speeds from my 8gb .mobile ultra
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That's interesting. It would explain why they're more expensive than the class 10 cards. But if you look at this amazon page, it's listed as class 6, which is confusing.
All this talk about speed and class isn't worth much to any a2sd script.
Class system is about sequential speed I.e writing a large file and you'll get the class speed.
Writing loads of small files and I doubt you'll get your class speed.
Plus the apps on your ext4 partition could well be reading and writing from both you fat32 and ext4 partition on your SD card slowing the whole thing down.
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dethrat said:
All this talk about speed and class isn't worth much to any a2sd script.
Class system is about sequential speed I.e writing a large file and you'll get the class speed.
Writing loads of small files and I doubt you'll get your class speed.
Plus the apps on your ext4 partition could well be reading and writing from both you fat32 and ext4 partition on your SD card slowing the whole thing down.
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I suppose the hope is that the higher the class the higher the random read/writes as well as sequential speeds.
But the random write performance measured on Tom's Hardware isn't encouraging (November 10, 2011 so not very current unfortunately, but maybe shows that a class 4 SanDisk isn't to be sneered at)
I was using SanDisk class 4 sd card with InsertCoin-1.1.4 Rom. After upgrading sd card to Kingston class 10, it's really improved the performance of the same Rom.
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Lakmal84 said:
I was using SanDisk class 4 sd card with InsertCoin-1.1.4 Rom. After upgrading sd card to Kingston class 10, it's really improved the performance of the same Rom.
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I've just bought a SanDisk class 6 'mobile ultra' 32gb card.
Someone's posted a CDM showing a random write speed of 1.222 (!), so I'm looking forward to seeing the effect from swapping from my current 0.01 speed card!
dethrat said:
All this talk about speed and class isn't worth much to any a2sd script.
Class system is about sequential speed I.e writing a large file and you'll get the class speed.
Writing loads of small files and I doubt you'll get your class speed.
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I started reading from the beginning wondering how long will it take for someone to point it out.
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Using the 32gb uhs-1 because of very high 4k write/read ( SDSDQU-032G-U46A) performance, some san disc class 4 cards are able for this, too. Habe never found so fast cards Form other manufactors.
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impactor said:
I am thinking of getting SanDisk 16GB Mobile Ultra Class 10 UHS-I Micro SD SDHC like that one.
I know I will not reach 10 Class speed but I need to replace my current card and this is the only thing I found from SanDisk.
Can I expect it to perform flawlessly with HTC Desire?
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Just ordered it after reading the rest of the thread, thanks for the idéa!

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