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16 Gb Micro Sd class 10

I wanted to let anyone looking for a micro sd about a deal i found. I found a Patriot Memory 16gb micro sdhc class 10 for $39.99 on www.CompUSA.com I think i'm going to order one after reading here on xda that patriot makes a pretty reliable sd card. I haven't ever used a patriot memory product so i only know what guys on here have posted. anyone make sure you check into the company on your own. They have the wintec 32 gb class 10 for $84.99 too!

apparently class10 cards are no good for phones, take a look at this link

yeah you dont want to spend all the money on something that might not work right?

I had read here on xda that the class of the sd card doesn't matter but the size(gb) is what matters with phones. like my SE X10 is only compatible with up to 16gb of external memory. Is that not correct? Can anyone clear this up for me?

X10's are compatible with up to 32gb microSD cards, I've got one in mine.
The size is important as you want to buy an SD card that works for the content that you intend on putting on it. If you have a lot of MP3s and videos, take a lot of pictures and shoot a lot of videos then obviously you are going to want at least a 16gb SD card.
The class does indeed matter. If you have hundreds or thousands of images then a class 2 card would take ages for them to all load in the Gallery. Or if you use App2SD at all a class 2 card wouldn't be able to keep up with the reading and writing and the app would be sluggish.
A class 10 card in my opinion is a bit excessive, I'd personally go for a class 4 or 6.

Pawnty said:
X10's are compatible with up to 32gb microSD cards, I've got one in mine.
The size is important as you want to buy an SD card that works for the content that you intend on putting on it. If you have a lot of MP3s and videos, take a lot of pictures and shoot a lot of videos then obviously you are going to want at least a 16gb SD card.
The class does indeed matter. If you have hundreds or thousands of images then a class 2 card would take ages for them to all load in the Gallery. Or if you use App2SD at all a class 2 card wouldn't be able to keep up with the reading and writing and the app would be sluggish.
A class 10 card in my opinion is a bit excessive, I'd personally go for a class 4 or 6.
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nice info....

how do i know
I have3 a 16 Gb SD card... and I recently bought 2 16 GB sd cards 4 a x10 mini and a sam 5560... but both haven´t the blister. so how do I know (with an android app) which class are they... even mine... because was a operator gift.
I tried with SD tools... but even in that app ask me what class is my card... so bad...
can u help me?
thnks
salu2

Pawnty said:
X10's are compatible with up to 32gb microSD cards, I've got one in mine.
The size is important as you want to buy an SD card that works for the content that you intend on putting on it. If you have a lot of MP3s and videos, take a lot of pictures and shoot a lot of videos then obviously you are going to want at least a 16gb SD card.
The class does indeed matter. If you have hundreds or thousands of images then a class 2 card would take ages for them to all load in the Gallery. Or if you use App2SD at all a class 2 card wouldn't be able to keep up with the reading and writing and the app would be sluggish.
A class 10 card in my opinion is a bit excessive, I'd personally go for a class 4 or 6.
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This is very true. I have a class 2 card and loading thumbnails for artists/albums is painfully slow in mediascape. I would go for a 32 GB if you are a music fan. I have a 1800 songs on my X10 and its already full. Class 4/6 should be good, class 10 is a little excessive.

georgegon60 said:
I have3 a 16 Gb SD card... and I recently bought 2 16 GB sd cards 4 a x10 mini and a sam 5560... but both haven´t the blister. so how do I know (with an android app) which class are they... even mine... because was a operator gift.
I tried with SD tools... but even in that app ask me what class is my card... so bad...
can u help me?
thnks
salu2
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Just take the card out of the phone. There should be a 'C' printed on the card and there will be a number inside the 'C'. This is the class of your card.

I was using stock 8 GB class 2, I brought Team 16 GB class 10. Difference in performance is noticeable.

I have a class 10 8gb card and it works way better than the stock card.
Just make sure you tweak your read_ahead_kb.. Search for SD card speed improvement or speed increase.

In general, Class 4 or 6 are good enough for the application usage by phone, such HD video and phones.
I tested my Class 4 sd card, it able to transfer ~5.5mb / sec, not bad.
Yes, when price come down, I will get a Class 100 sd card too.
cheers

I'd rather the class 200.
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Class 10 significantly improves the performance.
Honestly it does not matter if someone is using the SE stock rom...however since I have tried the awesome ROM created by wolfbreak...my apps stored in sd was very sluggish...had to buy a class 10 16 gig to improve the performance...

Just got a 16Gig class 4 card...goto to play with data2sd and see the quadrant!!!!!!

kxhawkins said:
I'd rather the class 200.
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LOL
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Is there maybe an app or system menu which I could use to determine the class of my microsd card?

donnytuco said:
apparently class10 cards are no good for phones, take a look at this link
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If you get a real kingston class 10 you will get five times the speed of a low spec class 2 generic sd card.
Rollhard said:
I had read here on xda that the class of the sd card doesn't matter but the size(gb) is what matters with phones. like my SE X10 is only compatible with up to 16gb of external memory. Is that not correct? Can anyone clear this up for me?
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Real Class 10 SD cards work at 10MB/s of data transfer speed.
Class 2=2MB/s
Class 4=4MB/s
Class 6=6MB/s
Class 8=8MB/s
Class 10=10MB/s
The best are as said by others Kingston and Sandisk.
I've a Sandisk class 6 card and i get near 5,5MB/s of data transfer.
Mine is still 8gb, i want to buy another but in Brazil it's very expensive, the taxes are very high.

Got the Wintec Filemate 16gb class 10 for just under $40 at Frys Electronics and it's given me no problems. Used it in my NookColor running tons of apps and music from it without a hitch. Now it's in my X10 and with using the SD Speed Up tools, it helped alot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1028465

arcturusx said:
Is there maybe an app or system menu which I could use to determine the class of my microsd card?
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Just take it out and look at at.
There will be a letter C with a number in it....that will be the class of the card

[Q] Class 10 MicroSD Issues

Hello, I bought some day ago a Team 16GB class 10 Micro SD card, but my Defy freeze, expecially when I browse it with quickpic.
I see some thread about class 10 cards and someone found that a partial fix is format with 32k or 64k as file allocation unit size, and maybe another fix is set higher voltage with setsvel.
I've tried the format fix, but I gain only speed, now I'll try the second to gain the needed stability.
I read also that it's an Android kernel related issue, so we still need an official fix.
Someone know some other method?
D_L
Edit: Also the voltage tweak have failed... It's frustrating...

There maybe something related to the manufacturer. For example in my country the cheepest MicroSDHC Cards are made by Adata and Serioux (there maybe other chinesse brands but these are present at known big IT stores).
So people bought them, especially Adata ( which should be better than Serioux).
Class 6/10... and they ended up not working.
So my advice is to try with a Knigston/Kingmax/Transcend/ Sandisk( not that cheap) same 16gb and same class, see if you see a difference.
And i think Class 6 is enough... if let's say Class 10 from the manufacturers above it too expensive.
Maybe it helps.

Transcend?? um.. i don't think so, it's just the same.
perviously i had Transced 8 GB class 6,
using my old galaxy android, it's so fine and speed is good.
but after went to Defy, it was horrible.
often to cause hangs!
have to unmount / remount, which often not succeed, and have to pull out battery.
and it's especially happen when taking picture with camera or downloading + listening to mp3.
many good moments missed, can't take picture, because have to pull out the battery,
and that's embarassing, in front of my friend.
they think i have a smartphone but often hangs,
and now i know it is just because highclass sdcard.
i am using class 2 sdcard now, never get hangs.
end of problem.

I had the same problem.
I bought a 16GB class 10 SDHC ab. a month ago and when I'd been using my Defy always been freezed when I opened the Gallery or any else card related application.
I deleted the partition on the card and created a new one without LBA mode and the problem had been solved temporary. After a week it was start to make freezes again.
Actually I'm using a 16GB class 2 one (I bought it for 15 pounds as used). There's no problems any more, and it works as the same speed as the class 10 one (by the SD Tools).

I gave up and went back to a class 6 8GB Samsung, i did start a thread on the official Motorola forum if you want to go let them know about the problems, it might get them to issue a fix if more people start to complain about it. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/53050?tstart=30

i tot only me..
same here..
wanna sell my DNA 16GB class 10.
phone hang quite easily after change to this

So i want to buy a 8 gb card class 4 or 6 tomorrow... and it must work would CM7 . What to get ? I understand that using Sd booster or CM7 default i should get the same speed acordingly to what i set ?
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Deonix said:
So i want to buy a 8 gb card class 4 or 6 tomorrow... and it must work would CM7 . What to get ? I understand that using Sd booster or CM7 default i should get the same speed acordingly to what i set ?
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Hi Deonix.
My SD is a SanDisk 8GB class 4 and working well.
A couple days a go i try to use my other SD 16GB (class 10) and had issues, so i back to the 8GB class 4.
Some users have 16 and 32GB class 2 and 4 and they have no problems.

Thanks... i will choose a class 4 probably Kingmax. Anyone with working Class 6 8gb? what manufacturer?
Question: i will have on my 8 gb card a bunch of apps-30-40... some games including Asphalt 6 < for example>, MotoNav, and music. Out of this i think i will still have 2-3 Gb free . I don't need to transfer data from Card to PC frequently (fast i mean) maybe when it happens i will use the phone as a mass storage.
The question is: Do i need a class 6? I only need to work properly while in the phone and have a decent speed as a Mass storage from time to time.

definetely is not cm7 problem,
i thought it was.. and many people thought it too.
maybe it's froyo kernel seems little bit buggy with hiclass sdcard.
and cm7 using froyo kernel though.
using class 2 sdcard is perfect.
the speed is just the same though.
have been checked with some bencharking tools.

Both me and the missus are using class 6 samsung cards this one to be precise http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Micro-Speed-memory-Class/dp/B002WGIV10/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_44 and it works greatSD tools shows a write speed of around 10MB/s and a read speed of around 21MB/s

actually, i'll buy SD Card Team 16 Gig class 10..
any problem with froyo for class 10 ?
need more advice from u guys

Garincha13 said:
actually, i'll buy SD Card Team 16 Gig class 10..
any problem with froyo for class 10 ?
need more advice from u guys
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many people confirm there's a problem with that,
even with 6 class sdcard.
i don't know what's going on but it's happening and annoying,
it happens on froyo, and CM7 too (FYI, CM7 Quarx uses froyo kernel).

Garincha13 said:
actually, i'll buy SD Card Team 16 Gig class 10..
any problem with froyo for class 10 ?
need more advice from u guys
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Thats what we are all saying, class 10 cards seem nothing but a problem regardless of size. This is why i went back to the class 6 samsung and posted a link to it cos i know it works.

Just bought a 8 gb Kingston class 4. Will report speed and any other issues as soon as i install CM7 with it.
Hope it works well. It's an Android Kernel issue from Froyo on the Class 6/10 crashes as i can understand.. nobody's fault ( here on XDA i mean). Still some work.
Also i remain strong on my position.
Choose your manufacturer wisely even if it costs 10-20$/i dunno how much more.

I use kingmax 16gb class10 allways hang,
so bad,
use class 4 or 2 batter
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i nearly bought a 16GB Lexmark class 6 card today but i dare not in case it didnt work, this is a crap situation.

Same here - Froyo 2.2.2 and Transend 16GB Class10 - freezes at random basis and random applications. No issues with 8GB Class 4.

I have similar problem, how do I know the class of the card? It is I believe a Kingston, I've had it for ages.
Also if it is relevant to someone, I have a Defy from CEE distribution, with Froyo.

Fabo.sk said:
I have similar problem, how do I know the class of the card? It is I believe a Kingston, I've had it for ages.
Also if it is relevant to someone, I have a Defy from CEE distribution, with Froyo.
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You can check if the class is printed on the card. Usually it is a number inside a letter "C" (like a full circle).
You can see the images here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd_card#Speed_Class_Rating

SD Cards Which Do & Dont Work With The Defy

Lets post what cards we do know work and the ones that don't because this is starting to cost people money just trying to find out. It is becoming apparent the faster the class the less likely the card will work. All class 2 and 4 cards seems to work, the majority of class 6 cards work but class 10 cards that work are few and far between.
The problems seem to be with the official moto release of 2.2, many had no problems with 2.1 so the issues are with the software not the hardware.
Known to work with 2.2
Samsung Plus 8GB class 6 (MB-MP8G) http://tinyurl.com/42fks93
Known not to work with 2.2
PNY 16GB class 10 http://tinyurl.com/4xywwue
Below is the speeds of the known working Samsung class 6 card.

Kingston 8GB SDHC Class 4 works fine for me

2 Memory cards work fine:
Samsung 8GB Class 4, HC.
Samsung 1GB.

Kingston 16gb class 4 works for me.

Known to work
Icidu 32GB (class unknown)
SanDisk 32GB class 2

Known to Work
Trancend 16GB class 6

Transcend 16gb class 6.
Sometimes become read-only. I have to re-mount it. I never have this problem in Samsung Spica or htc legend

Useful thread, someone should sticky this.

Known to Work
SanDisk 8GB class 4 -> works very well and records smooth 720p videos

Known to Work
Memorette class 10 32GB card
dave79 said:
Very insteresting, I haven't had any of those issues with my Memorette class 10 32GB card. Tested with a good average speeds of 14MBps. I wanted a class 10 card in order to be future proof (HD recording etc).
Currently running the beta stock Orange Ginger (2.3) rom at 1GHz.
//Dave
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Is there any cards that not work???
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Lots and lots, hence the thread. I posted one that didn't work in the very first post.

KNOWN NOT TO WORK
Transcenc 8gb Class 6
I had constant freezes and crashes with that card.
KNOWN TO WORK
Kingston 4gb Class 4
works perfectly

This one works for me:
Trancend 16GB class 6 formatted with 64Kb clusters
Works with:
10 MB/s Write speed
22 MB/s Read speed
Running 2.3.4 для Defy - 134

Hugo32 said:
KNOWN NOT TO WORK
Transcenc 8gb Class 6
I had constant freezes and crashes with that card.
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Have you allready tried that card when formatted FAT32 with 64kb Clusters??

gommers1978 said:
Have you allready tried that card when formatted FAT32 with 64kb Clusters??
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how do I do that ? btw. I already thought my defy was broken as it froze every 5-10 minutes, than changed to the kingston card and installed the exact same apps/ settings and now it runs without errors for a week already...

Do it in Windows mate To be honest though a working card should do just that, work, if you are having ot mess around with cluster sizes to get it working rather than just doing it to improve speed then i would be weary.

You should edit your 1st post ..make a list of working and non working SD cards!

Just for you then LOL.

Aint that the point of this thread?
Simple and clean info about SD cards.. Its not for me its for community FFS!
Take CM7 thread for a example ,its pretty much mess(1k posts?) there but hey you have another thread which is simple FAQ where it clearly says what you should do to install that rom.
Its similar as this and bunch other threads out there;more organisation would be better for all.

Maximum size sd card with g2

Bought a 32 gb micro class 10 today and its acting really weird. Still have my 16gb and it works perfect.
Running stock 2.2 still, is 16gb max or what? If yes and I upgrade to 2.3 legit upgrade will it work with a 32 gb?
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No, it's the class 10. Lot's of threads on this, try a class 6 card.

Class 10 is not so good on desire z. Try a class 4 or 6 card
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Ok so... I bought another one with a class 4.
Class 10 no name: everything works normal but transfer is super super super slow...
Class 4 kingston: weird when I open my computer and turn on the usb connection the H drive (sd card) keeps showing up and disappearing then showing up and disappearing over and over... wtf gives?
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ok so im throwing both the sd cards in the reader and formatting them. see if that fixes my problem.

if you still got the packaging and recipt you can still return the cards if they dont work

I'm running a 32GB Class 10 card with no problems. Maybe it's just your card. I had problems with the partitions on my original Wintec card and the company sent me a new one as a replacement.

blackknightavalon said:
I'm running a 32GB Class 10 card with no problems. Maybe it's just your card. I had problems with the partitions on my original Wintec card and the company sent me a new one as a replacement.
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Ya, thats the one. Finished formatting and copying files to the cards. The Wintec one which is class 10 is running a little bit weird. I'm try the kingston class 4

evilcuber said:
Class 10 is not so good on desire z. Try a class 4 or 6 card
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I have 16GB Class 10 Joyflash (noname). Could you tell, why Class 10 "is not so good on desire z", becouse I dont understand this.
If card reader of desire is slow, on level of Class 6, if you put Class 10, doesnt change anything, but why "is not so good"?

I can safely say that my 32 GB class 6 has no issues. I've been reading on the subject and for some devices the class 10 is flaky... might just be a firware/software issue. Who knows.
But I'm ok with my class 6. Write: 9mb/s and read 24.3m/s

Ok so after everything last night I ended up keeping the kingston class 4 instead of the wintec class 10.
One thing that everyone should know if they are planning to upgrade soon and have forgotten this. The speed to write to a micro sd is slow then the speed to copy from a micro sd. This is my experience last night at least... I can copy a certain file to my desktop in 40 seconds but to put it on took 2-3 minutes.
Anyways, just be patient and go to a place you can get refunds so you dont get screwed with a bad card lol. With my experience the 32 gb class 10 wintec sucks, the write speed was insanely slow. So I stuck with a name brand instead, I really wanted a sandisk but they werent available.

Mog said:
Ya, thats the one. Finished formatting and copying files to the cards. The Wintec one which is class 10 is running a little bit weird. I'm try the kingston class 4
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Actually, my original Wintec card was screwing up and wouldn't keep the data partitions written. The replacement I got from Wintec is working the way it should, and it actually is acting like a class 10 card.

Mog said:
One thing that everyone should know if they are planning to upgrade soon and have forgotten this. The speed to write to a micro sd is slow then the speed to copy from a micro sd. This is my experience last night at least... I can copy a certain file to my desktop in 40 seconds but to put it on took 2-3 minutes.
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Class ratings refer only to write speed. And write speed is always going to be slower than read speed.

redpoint73 said:
Class ratings refer only to write speed. And write speed is always going to be slower than read speed.
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This AND, class ratings were documented before smartphones for the purpose of professional photography use in cameras. I have never had any speed issue with my good old class 2 card in my smartphone.

iDAREK said:
I have 16GB Class 10 Joyflash (noname). Could you tell, why Class 10 "is not so good on desire z", becouse I dont understand this.
If card reader of desire is slow, on level of Class 6, if you put Class 10, doesnt change anything, but why "is not so good"?
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Lots of threads on this, search "sd card"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804421&highlight=sd+card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849494&highlight=sd+card
Also, check this out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022678&highlight=sd+card

SuperDave81 said:
No, it's the class 10. Lot's of threads on this, try a class 6 card.
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Thank You: I can confirm this.
I had to put a SD in my old DesireZ/Vision for one of my son (10 years... there's no religion....) to replace a old 4GB crashed one.
The phone is running SenseI ROM (fine ROM: a very good way to replace the stable CM7 and run ICS 4.0)
I bought on Amazon Samsung EVO uSD 16GB Class10... and it was not recognized... So I read it on the PC to see if is was good or not: it was OK!
Recovered the trouble upgrading the Galaxy S2 of the other son from a old 8GB class 4 (probably Kingston o Transcend) to the brand new 16GB EVO Class 10, and putting the old 8GBB in the Desire Z: quickly recognized and optimally mounted both cards over both the 2 phones!
But I was disappointed... more than speed performance I thought that Class 10 memory card were also better on quality, due to a more robust and stable architecture of the chips inside.... and
much more recommended for the "systemdisk-like" use on Android Smartphones!

[Q] Class ? for memory card support?

Hello all
as i m unaware
that what Class does G2 support it at best performance?
i am buying 16GB MMC SDHC of class 4?
can anyone say me will it support good with class 4?
or any better class memory card with class 6,8,10 any one which also works well with G2 ??
i am upgrading my memory and knowledge
plz reply
Regards
Bhadresh.

bhadresh said:
Hello all
as i m unaware
that what Class does G2 support it at best performance?
i am buying 16GB MMC SDHC of class 4?
can anyone say me will it support good with class 4?
or any better class memory card with class 6,8,10 any one which also works well with G2 ??
i am upgrading my memory and knowledge
plz reply
Regards
Bhadresh.
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G2 works best with class 4
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I am running a 16gb class 10.... no problems.
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I think most people are using a class 4 SD card, but if you want to get something higher go ahead. Something with a higher class may get you some speed increase if you have apps installed on the SD card, but if you are using it purely for storage then go with a class 4.

also some people have problems with higher class cards. there also isnt much diffrence in speed between sdcards

I have found there to be a huge speed increase in sustained read/writes. Moving movies or music from pc to phone and vice_versa.
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I updated to class 10 card - no problems so far

i have a class 4 32GB no problems here, but i have heard people having problems with the calls 10 cards, i wanted a class 6 32GB but i had no luck finding one, much less at a decent price lol.

Also stick to well known brands, I've heard of problems with little known brands. I've had no problems with sandisk and adata.

Yes get a class 4 or 6.. dont get a 10 since not all devices support it.