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Hello Everyone I have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. My only question is how will this GPU hold up in the long run. Right now it does pretty well (not as well as my 4s though) but also can sometimes stutter and lag. It runs nearly every game pretty well. My question is how soon will it be when it will no longer be able to handle higher end games? So I guess the question remains is it worth waiting for tegra 3. I do not need the best graphics ever but do enjoy for the games to run well.
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Hello Everyone I have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. My only question is how will this GPU hold up in the long run. Right now it does pretty well (not as well as my 4s though) but also can sometimes stutter and lag. It runs nearly every game pretty well. My question is how soon will it be when it will no longer be able to handle higher end games? So I guess the question remains is it worth waiting for tegra 3. I do not need the best graphics ever but do enjoy for the games to run well.
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Are u on 4.0.2? The stuttering isn't due to the gpu being weak it has to due with the sw. 4.0.3 adds some performance enhancements which will mostly fix the lag and stuttering.
4.0.3 will help stuttering in games?
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Hello Everyone I have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. My only question is how will this GPU hold up in the long run. Right now it does pretty well (not as well as my 4s though) but also can sometimes stutter and lag. It runs nearly every game pretty well. My question is how soon will it be when it will no longer be able to handle higher end games? So I guess the question remains is it worth waiting for tegra 3. I do not need the best graphics ever but do enjoy for the games to run well.
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The SGX540 is older, but it is also clocked higher than before and integrated in new ways into the OMAP4460. Now, as a comparison to the 4S? Not even close. Apple went all out, the SGX543 MP2 blows the Nexus' GPU out of the water. Completely. If gaming is your primary focus, it is the wrong phone. That said, I have experienced zero lag in games, and I've tried all the major titles. I haven't modified my phone at all. I think the phone will start to show its age in about a year or so, when the next Nexus device is released. However, the same will happen with the 4S. I don't think it will be the GPU in that device, but rather the RAM, the 3G speeds, etc.
All technology has a short lifespan.
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I'm not sure what game(s) you are trying to play, but so far I've just tried out Sentinel 3 on my Nexus. While I was on 4.0.2, overall system performance seemed to be sluggish. Now that I am on 4.0.3 it's improved. Sentinel 3 was indeed laggy on 4.0.2 yet it's mostly gone now on 4.0.3 The game did perform better on my old phone, but I feel it's just a matter of the developer improving support for this phone's GPU.
As for Tegra 3, the question is.. "when?" Asus & HTC have stated they have new Tegra 3 devices in the works but vague ETA's on them. For all we know it could be like the Bionic and get released many months after they were supposed to be. Only time will tell.
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I'm not sure what game(s) you are trying to play, but so far I've just tried out Sentinel 3 on my Nexus. While I was on 4.0.2, overall system performance seemed to be sluggish. Now that I am on 4.0.3 it's improved. Sentinel 3 was indeed laggy on 4.0.2 yet it's mostly gone now on 4.0.3 The game did perform better on my old phone, but I feel it's just a matter of the developer improving support for this phone's GPU.
As for Tegra 3, the question is.. "when?" Asus & HTC have stated they have new Tegra 3 devices in the works but vague ETA's on them. For all we know it could be like the Bionic and get released many months after they were supposed to be. Only time will tell.
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ASUS Transformer Prime is already out in some retailers/etailers, but it is not mainstreamly sold due to demand. My friend got one from Frys the other day. Also, Amazon has started shipping some Transformer Primes to preorderers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230218
Pros: Great screen,fast,light weight,plenty of memory.Newegg has great service. Ordered it 4:00 pm, received it at 10:30 am the next morning
Cons: Not ice cream sandwich
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.. So yeah, they're already being shipped out.
Thanks I am aware of Transformer Prime but I am looking phones. And the main game I noticed lag was GTA III. And if I can get 8 months with it I would be more then happy.
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ASUS Transformer Prime is already out in some retailers/etailers, but it is not mainstreamly sold due to demand. My friend got one from Frys the other day. Also, Amazon has started shipping some Transformer Primes to preorderers.
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I thought the Transformer Prime was a tablet though, not a phone?
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I thought the Transformer Prime was a tablet though, not a phone?
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You mentioned ASUS. When it comes to ASUS, first thing I think about is their recognition in tablets. I know they're making a phone but no one really thinks about phones when people say ASUS.
But any regards, gaming on a tablet would probably be more preferable because the screen is so much bigger. At least for me, so you might want to look into that and see if it is something you'd want to invest your money in.
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You mentioned ASUS. When it comes to ASUS, first thing I think about is their recognition in tablets. I know they're making a phone but no one really thinks about phones when people say ASUS.
But any regards, gaming on a tablet would probably be more preferable because the screen is so much bigger. At least for me, so you might want to look into that and see if it is something you'd want to invest your money in.
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oh... me?... well, i was planning on getting a transformer prime myself(eventually). but yeah they have their "padafone" cell phone that's tegra 3 and supposedly coming out 1st q 2012. curious on how that progresses.
that padafone looks very uncompelling with the exception of the tegra 3. Would much rather nexus
I have not seen any games yet that don't perform well.
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same GPU as nexus s, approx 20% higher performance but needs to push 2x as many pixels. Performance (framerate) is notieceably worse than my nexus s. For example, that backbreaker game runs at 60fps on my NS, its prolly around 40ish
Its not a big deal for me since I mostly play simple time waster games on my phone. I ave a PS3 and laptop for when I really want to game.
Honestly, I kind of laugh at the whole Tegra 3 thing. Because I ask myself "why?"
Nvidia is rushing out the door with their quad core (there's even a secret fifth core as well!) Tegra 3 when most of us still remember the Tegra 2 and how crappy it was on that first-generation of Honeycomb tablets.
I owned an original Transformer with the Tegra 2 and couldn't even play 720p videos properly. Of course part of the issue is codecs as well and the Galaxy Nexus as a vanilla Android device isn't great on that front either... still, I can't help but feel Nvidia is rushing forth with this quad-core thing when nobody else is there yet simply because their previous offering was so mediocre.
I mean they had to devise the whole unnecessary "optmized for Tegra" games thing to make it look like the Tegra SoCs are something special when they are at best competitors to other SoCs.
I hope they fix the live wallpaper stutters. It's just ridiculous bad
Typed from my kickass LTE Galaxy Nexus running AXI0M 2.2 combined with the HON3Y(S)CR3AM theme. ON3 ROM TO RUL3 TH3M ALL.
How is the performance of HDMI out on this tablet? I'm planing to stream 720p/1080p flash content from my tab to my 1080p TV.
its actually quite good. im playing 64oid on my 60inch led. works great!
Really lol? I thought it might lag a bit lol
Its good with playing movies but overall use it lags and kinda choppy a bit. Makes things kinda feel like you're still on single core is my best explanation.
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it lags after 1 hr of playing a video. Don't plug the power a/c and play netflix after 20 min the system slow down big time but playing game its very good. Netflix is set to 720p and I play some mvk movie on 1080p
1080p? That's good. I watch lats of flash videos
I have used it for movies and it is flawless in my opinion.
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it lags after 1 hr of playing a video. Don't plug the power a/c and play netflix after 20 min the system slow down big time but playing game its very good. Netflix is set to 720p and I play some mvk movie on 1080p
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I think the screen size has a part to play as well. There was slight lag watching video. But mabye it's just this tablet :/
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I think the lag is limitation of tegra 2 or dual core devices. I haven't tested equinox but I have qualcomm dual core evo 3d and its worse. However I have a Transformer Prime tegra 3 quadcore and there is no lag at all. It's smooth as it is on the tablet and TV.
IMO For the price and size there is no other 7 inch tablet that can do what the a100 can even via HDMI. So either you hold on and wait for other 7 inchers to come out that have better spec'd (which is probably atleast 6 months from now) or get a Prime =) that will cost you double the price.
To be honest the lag when streaming via netflix or youtube is not everytime. Also they depend on your network connection. I watch Netflix a lot via HDMI and I don't really see much lag other than when I start an app or flipping through screens.
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I think the lag is limitation of tegra 2 or dual core devices. I haven't tested equinox but I have qualcomm dual core evo 3d and its worse.
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Its not a limitation of the tegra2 but a limitation that acer has put on the device by not letting us overclock it. If we are ever able to run a custom kernel with overclock features and can overclock both the cpu and gpus you wont see any lag at all.
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Its not a limitation of the tegra2 but a limitation that acer has put on the device by not letting us overclock it. If we are ever able to run a custom kernel with overclock features and can overclock both the cpu and gpus you wont see any lag at all.
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I agree that custom kernel, rom, or OC (which may never happen cause of acer) may eliminate lag however I think the OP is asking opinion based on stock performance.
I just did some testing and I don't know if it just my a100 or all a100 but if the battery temp past 95 f the CPU underclock to 456 so my Netflix starts to slow down big time. Is this a system setting for the a100 to not overheat? And why mini HDMI will make the battery temp go up to 98 f
I had a chance to play with a gen 2 windows phone and all of the third party apps were silky smooth. I think it is really worth going for a gen 2 device now.
Meh, not that much of a jump to be worth it. How could it be that much smoother? the processor is only like .2 ghz faster aren't they?
XviD codecs, HDMI out, HD display, native skydrive (I mean seemless, streaming music etc), now that would be worth it.
the graphics is also better and it has a 40-50 % processing boost, so it performs very well. I would recommend very much if you want smooth third party apps.
Gotta agree, I've been playing with a HTC Radar and it's silky smooth. Maybe Microsoft optimized the os in mango.
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i dont know dude, but all the second gen perfrom amazing against the first gen.
Yepp they are faster in every aspect.
I had an Omnia 7 and now Lumia 800, the difference to me is big in eveyday usage.
And the Xbox Hub doesnt lag anymore when the Avatar starts his moves
HTC's move to integrated memory instead of flash mem helps a lot too.
Honestly, while still smooth, my titan seems a bit jumpier than my lumia. Perhaps it's just more discernible on the larger screen, but there's a barely visible jitter to it. My radar doesn't have the issue, nor does my focus S. Has anyone else experienced this or should I replace?
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Honestly, while still smooth, my titan seems a bit jumpier than my lumia. Perhaps it's just more discernible on the larger screen, but there's a barely visible jitter to it. My radar doesn't have the issue, nor does my focus S. Has anyone else experienced this or should I replace?
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Maybe you have that Htc audio enhancer thing enabled? I heard it somehow decreases gpu performance.
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Honestly, while still smooth, my titan seems a bit jumpier than my lumia. Perhaps it's just more discernible on the larger screen, but there's a barely visible jitter to it. My radar doesn't have the issue, nor does my focus S. Has anyone else experienced this or should I replace?
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Maybe you have that Htc audio enhancer thing enabled? I heard it somehow decreases gpu performance.
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Yup proven solution is shut down the sound enhancer in settings while streaming video, playing games. It's not OS bug, it's HTC screwing up things.
yup, cut it off and reset the phone and I'm golden. Thanks guys.
I can confirm what you are experiencing.
I was testing a video recognition and dynamic thresholding algorithm which ran almost 2 times faster on a Lumia 800 compared to the Omnia 7. It was definetly noticeable, ill try to see if I can get the difference in miliseconds if I get the Lumia back.
Also I've noticed apps starting much much quicker! Definetly nice for daily use, great improvements in speed and performance. Although video playback is noticeably worse, but hopeflly this will be solved in the coming update.
heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...
devilzzzz said:
heyyy... anyone can give me a review about gaming performance in note 8.... i found article say it stutering when play real racing 3... and this gadget have a poor performance in gaming??
can anyone give me a review about that...
i want to buy this n5100...
sorry for my bad english...
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For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).
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For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
rpmbnsf said:
My son just got this tablet and I can tell you every game we have put on it has worked flawlessly. For us any game that works on my 10.1 has played as well if not better on the note 8 (including real racing 3).
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Do you mean everything that work on note 10.1 also work for. Note 8???
I also have note 10.1 but that's to big for me...
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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I think he means the shelf life... that it wont take long for games to start demanding more than what the note 8 has.
not that i agree completely..
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Can I know, what do you mean by for a long time isn't good choice? Is it become laggy if keep playing for a long time maybe 1-2 hours....
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All devices with Exynos 4412 are proved to be great in stability test, almost no throttling.
I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....
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I'm doing a complete thumb suck here, but I expect the mali400 gpu that's in the Note 8.0 to start showing it's age in a year to two years.
What I mean by that is top games will still be very playable... But lag will become more and more noticeable in certain areas of the game. Either that or some of the bells and whistles will be turned off in the version that's 'officially' available to us on the Play Store.
After all... There will be a never ending push for ever more demanding games to 'show off' just how much better flagship devices are to previous generations. The Note 8.0 has a weaker gpu than the phone I bought 2 years ago... It can't be *that* much longer before it can no longer keep pace...
Just sayin....
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True, but this applies to almost all new technology. Always something new coming out. I'll keep mine for a year and sell it when I upgrade to the next greatest thing
ok thanks... now i just wait for the gadget come hope everything work perfectly... gaming,browsing,watching... and the battery life i hope just from morning till afternoon or night... :laugh:
duyminhphan said:
For this time. Playing Games on Note 8.0 is ok. I have Fifa 2012, MC4, Fieldrunner 2, Real Rancing 3 and them run ok. But, I think for a longtime isn't good choice.
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Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?
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Note 8 OR Nexus 7 Which one is good for gaming? Which is future proof (1 year atleast) in terms of gaming?
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I think note 8.0 better. And maybe 6 month for heavy game. Normal games is no problems. Sorry for my bad English.
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The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
For gaming, I'd hold off until after Google I/O to see what devices are announced. If the N7 is refreshed with the Mali 604 or so (and/or a Tegra 4) and a decent display, you might want to wait until it can be ordered.
In ordinary use, the GN8 is the fastest Android device I've used, and has the least lag of any Android device I've used. The Nexus 7 is very good, but it's just not playing in this league. I'm sure there are some Tegra optimized games that the N7 will do better on, but the UI overall is not this quick.
Incredibly fast in my use, and I play numerous graphics intensive games. DEFINITELY better than n7, trust me, I've owned both
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Can the Mali 400 GPU be overclocked with a custom kernel in order to squeese a little more performance from it?
Overclocking the Tegra 2 GPU on my ASUS Transformer as well as the CPU made a big difference in its gaming performance.
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The note 8 is very fast but uses the Mali 400 GPU, an older (is it two years old now?) GPU.
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I'm having a little trouble tracking down exactly when the Mali-400 MP gpu was first released, but here's an article on it from 2008: !!!
http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=48319
It was still a pretty beefy gpu in the Galaxy SII in 2011... But as far as I know was upstaged by the Adreno 220, which was to be found in the HTC Sensation (the phone I bought in 2011).
Some more info from back then:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
Hello,
I was going to buy this tablet soon but I just found out about the Tegra 4 CPU.
It is supposed to have better performance than SnapDragon S4 CPU which the Nexus 7 flo tablet has.
Do you think I should wait until a 7 inch Tegra 4 Tablet comes onto the market or should I buy the Nexus 7 now?
Thanks,
The Doolster
Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
Do whatever will make you happy. If you're the patient type then just wait.
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Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
RCranium666 said:
Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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Gotta be able to flip those pages faster than you can blink, yo.
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
RCranium666 said:
Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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conan1600 said:
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
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I'm thinking that I should just get this tab and be happy with it for a year or more. I mean the most intensive game I play is Riptide GP2, and my Nexus 4 runs that fine on stock with high settings. I will also be doing some emulation on it, but if my Nexus 4 can run it, the Nexus 7 will be able to even better
2.3 GHz is insane for a mobile device that is $230. But since money is pretty tight for me maybe a $230 tablet is probably all I will be able to afford. And about the Kindle Fire, those have always been bad for development and I like to have root and custom roms, and stuff.
So I think this will be the tablet that I'm going to get.
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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Kindle community's for me is meh. But if nook follows in the steps of kindle well then that could be an inexpensive toy with some real nice specs after root and rom.
Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
Hello,
the Tegra 4 SoC do not support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully.
If you want to enjoy AAA games or apps in the near future you might not be able to do so.
Also most of the recent Tegra SoC had bad sound quality through headphones and tend to overheat.
Best regards,
pootney
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android game made today.
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Richieboy67 said:
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android have made today.
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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
i use to be all about tegra myself but tegra is not all that good. battery life is horrible and there are heat issues, the htc one x i had got pretty freaking hot. i wanted a tegra 4 tablet like the new toshiba excite but for $480<==F that. i already spent $400 for preordering my ps4 so im not gonna spend that kind of money on a tablet. Nexus 7 is perfect and lightweight. its $270 i can run android games and emulators. with a rooted nexus 7 you can bluetooth a ps3 controller to it for those games and emulators. plus it runs the default android OS which is the best OS out there. The nexus 7 will have a lot more support from devs for kernels, roms, mods, etc...... Seriously buy a nexus 7 and with the money, give it a nice case. kernels for this device can OC the cpu/gpu as well.
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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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No, I don't THINK that will happen, but let's be honest. 95% of devices won't get KLP anyways. I'm not saying it wont run it, just that the overkill may not be overkill in 5 months. History says otherwise, but look at apple updates. Sometimes the new releases run like crap on older devices.
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Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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I assure you, I have PLENTY of Tegra device experience. Moto Xoom, LG G2x, Nexus 7, Droid X2, HTC One X+, development in general for all devices. Believe me when I say, nVidia says things work one way, and more often than not, they don't. They require a LOT of extra development workarounds and time to optimize and get them to behave acceptably. I have a feeling that Asus benefited from the Google relationship with the Nexus 7 being a Tegra 3 and applied that knowledge to the rest of their devices. If Asus was willing to spend the time and engineering brains to figure out all those work arounds, kudos to them. Most other manufacturers were not. Even things that are EASY to develop for barely get Android updates, and if theres any sign of it not working right, they just throw in the towel.
The original Nexus 7 worked well, and I'm not saying your Asus tablet doesn't, but the vast majority of nVidia powered devices are not good in the long run.
Check out this article about the history of the way nVidia has dealt with the Tegra chips.
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/18/nvidias-telegraphs-tegras-woes-at-ces/
Also, sweet Mustang. I happen to drive a 64 Mercury Comet wagon with a 427FE that runs high 8's. Its a Dyno Don car. I dont own it, just drive it, but its a blast.
stanglifemike said:
WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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Tegra Devices in general are just bleh. Video play back always seems lacking. /shrug
Asus will only update their devices once. maybe twice. That isn't support. They only do that as they have a "Life cycle" of their devices. Once reached. Its end of line.
Best display? Lol you lost me there.
The Tegra 4's CPU is equal or better than the SD 800. The Tegra 4's GPU is also equal or better than the Adreno 330.
For those saying that the battery life is horrible - what are you smoking? One of the things the Tegra 3 was lauded for was battery life. Anandtech recorded 18 HOURS of video playback with the Tegra 4 - not even the iPad could touch that.
IMO, the Tegra 4 is a premium SoC. If you really want the latest and greatest, wait for the Tegra 4. Otherwise, the N7v2 will do just fine.
Don't kid yourselves into thinking the Tegra 4 is horrible though...