AT&T out of warranty replacement program (INC ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE & NO INSURANCE) - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

AT&T out of warranty replacement program (INC ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE & NO INSURANCE)
I recently broke my galaxy note 2 front glass. Local repair shop: prob $200 because LCD ok, but even if THEY break it during repair, price becomes $350 because then need to replace entire display assembly. Then an AT&T local device service center (DSC) told me about a program rolling out in some locations called the "Dead End Pilot Out Of Warranty Replacement Program." Here in Southern California it's available at a DSC in Rancho Cucamonga, and another in (Corona? Somewhere in the Inland Empire). If you call the Rancho Cucamonga AT&T location on Archibald St they can tell you about it.
I don't know if this is California only, or specific to this franchise, although I've been told it's coming to Orange County soon. I don't know about other states/regions but the Rancho Cucamonga location in CA may know.
When I called AT&T support they didn't even know about it, but they called the location to confirm, and it's legit.
Replaced damaged Note II with a factory refurbished unit (by Samsung) for $150+tax. You keep your original battery, stylus, and back panel. The other good news: while my replacement started malfunctioning shortly after, my local DSC replaced it this time as a warranty replacement (not sure if this is technically allowed - but my local DSC was aware of the prior replacement at Rancho, and said I didn't need to go all the way back).
So - before you pay someone to fix, or even fix it yourself, you might want to see if this option is available anywhere near you - even if it's a bit of a drive.
Still unclear how this affects original warranty - have conflicting info on this one. One response is that original warranty void (what I'd expect) but that refurbished unit has automatic 90 day warranty from Samsung. Local DSC says my original warranty applies, because it's longer. Anyway, minimum 90 days refurbished warranty, even if your warranty had already expired.
Ironically, this program is even less than the insurance deductible if you have the insurance (that's $200 alone).
This is an amazing program, so here's a shout out to those responsible, and thank you - and I want others to know it's out there.
And to AT&T - if this is being trialed as a possible future company wide program: as a customer, you have gained MANY loyalty points with me for it. This would definitely encourage me to remain with AT&T for the long term.

Re: AT&T out of warranty replacement program (INC ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE & NO INSURANCE)
I used to work at a DSC several months ago and I can confirm this program, however, its only tested in a few pilot locations at least at that time since I left. As far as the existing warranty if you opt into this program, more than likely it will still apply or 90 days, whichever is longer. However, that might be unclear as it is kind of a gray area being the reason why its only tested in pilot locations so I'd make sure to ask. Keep in mind that whatever warranty issues you have when you participate in this program, those warranty policies only apply through ATT and not through Samsung themselves.
So before anyone tries to take advantage of this program, make sure to call your nearest DSC first to see if they're participating in this program and if they have your Note 2 in stock. Don't waste your time in going if they're out of stock and the only way is to periodically call them to check. Normally, they'd perform an exchange by mail if that ever happens, but for this program, it has not been implemented.
Also remember, this program was initiated through ATT's contractor who manage these DSC locations so more than likely, the customer reps through the phone and at the corporate/authorized retailers have little to no information about this program so dont go asking them for info, especially about a warranty dispute.
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Re: AT&T out of warranty replacement program (INC ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE & NO INSURANCE)
Can you give the DSC CONTACT INFO I don't mind driving 30 to 40 min for this besides Thats about normal commute to any where in southern California lol
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Re: AT&T out of warranty replacement program (INC ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE & NO INSURANCE)
Wow. Wish I had heard of this sooner. I just broke the glass on mine and got a replacement via the insurance for $200. I was happy with the next day shipping ans wasn't too difficult to submit the claim.
Kind of upsets me that I pay for the insurance every month when theres a cheaper alternative without the monthly fee.
I would have made the drive to save the difference.
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Re: AT&T out of warranty replacement program (INC ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE & NO INSURANCE)
If you look it up you'll find there's only one location for at&t in Rancho Cucamonga on Archibald St (that's why I was so specific), however the number is
909-945-3427.
When you call just ask them to verify you've reached the DSC - but it would have to be; unlike some locations that have a store with DSC attached, it's a standalone DSC location.
Another poster below points out that you should call first. They are absolutely right: the program doesn't apply to all devices, and they can't do anything if they don't have a similar device in stock. In my case it had to be refurbished, I assume that's true for all (since it's not a retail location, they might not have anything else anyway.)
In short: call them first, give them specifics, and ask if it's covered in the program. They can tell you if there's stock available, if it's available under the program, what the cost is, etc. This varies by device. If it's not currently covered ask them if they expect it to be (never hurts to ask). I'm the case of the Note 2 everyone of them seemed genuinely surprised to see it so soon. I'm guessing it's because of the popularity of the device.
In my experience, they don't care how the device was damaged either - maybe don't tell them if you're running a side business rooting and reselling on eBay; but otherwise they aren't that concerned. I also found them to be very professional, customer-focused, and helpful in general.
And sorry for that long post LOL. Too easy to blather on when using Swype...
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kkl0wn said:
Wow. Wish I had heard of this sooner. I just broke the glass on mine and got a replacement via the insurance for $200. I was happy with the next day shipping ans wasn't too difficult to submit the claim.
Kind of upsets me that I pay for the insurance every month when theres a cheaper alternative without the monthly fee.
I would have made the drive to save the difference.
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But with insurance your more likely for them to send you a new device. Unlike it being refurbish! But you'll have a 90 day warranty on the refurb...
sashby said:
If you look it up you'll find there's only one location for at&t in Rancho Cucamonga on Archibald St (that's why I was so specific), however the number is
909-945-3427.
When you call just ask them to verify you've reached the DSC - but it would have to be; unlike some locations that have a store with DSC attached, it's a standalone DSC location.
Another poster below points out that you should call first. They are absolutely right: the program doesn't apply to all devices, and they can't do anything if they don't have a similar device in stock. In my case it had to be refurbished, I assume that's true for all (since it's not a retail location, they might not have anything else anyway.)
In short: call them first, give them specifics, and ask if it's covered in the program. They can tell you if there's stock available, if it's available under the program, what the cost is, etc. This varies by device. If it's not currently covered ask them if they expect it to be (never hurts to ask). I'm the case of the Note 2 everyone of them seemed genuinely surprised to see it so soon. I'm guessing it's because of the popularity of the device.
In my experience, they don't care how the device was damaged either - maybe don't tell them if you're running a side business rooting and reselling on eBay; but otherwise they aren't that concerned. I also found them to be very professional, customer-focused, and helpful in general.
And sorry for that long post LOL. Too easy to blather on when using Swype...
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Crazy that's just 45 minutes from me!
Gonna call and c how much they'll charge for another phone I broke. If that's the case then excellent program. But prefer to b sent a new device thru insurance tho. JMO
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Just my 2¢
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Just an update all DSC in southern cali have the out or service warranty program, I just went to day and switched out my note 2 for a newly referb looks great and only for $150.00 plus tax
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I suppose the major difference here, is your getting a refurb unit, as opposed to a new replacement unit when using insurance...
Not a huge deal I guess...
Lets hope ATT does the right thing, and quits treating smart phones and their deductibles like a house mortgage....(expensive).....as the deductible is likely more than the unit costs them to begin with...
thank you for the information OP.......g

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I recently broke my galaxy note 2 front glass. Local repair shop: prob $200 because LCD ok, but even if THEY break it during repair, price becomes $350 because then need to replace entire display assembly. Then an AT&T local device service center (DSC) told me about a program rolling out in some locations called the "Dead End Pilot Out Of Warranty Replacement Program." Here in Southern California it's available at a DSC in Rancho Cucamonga, and another in (Corona? Somewhere in the Inland Empire). If you call the Rancho Cucamonga AT&T location on Archibald St they can tell you about it.
I don't know if this is California only, or specific to this franchise, although I've been told it's coming to Orange County soon. I don't know about other states/regions but the Rancho Cucamonga location in CA may know.
When I called AT&T support they didn't even know about it, but they called the location to confirm, and it's legit.
Replaced damaged Note II with a factory refurbished unit (by Samsung) for $150+tax. You keep your original battery, stylus, and back panel. The other good news: while my replacement started malfunctioning shortly after, my local DSC replaced it this time as a warranty replacement (not sure if this is technically allowed - but my local DSC was aware of the prior replacement at Rancho, and said I didn't need to go all the way back).
So - before you pay someone to fix, or even fix it yourself, you might want to see if this option is available anywhere near you - even if it's a bit of a drive.
Still unclear how this affects original warranty - have conflicting info on this one. One response is that original warranty void (what I'd expect) but that refurbished unit has automatic 90 day warranty from Samsung. Local DSC says my original warranty applies, because it's longer. Anyway, minimum 90 days refurbished warranty, even if your warranty had already expired.
Ironically, this program is even less than the insurance deductible if you have the insurance (that's $200 alone).
This is an amazing program, so here's a shout out to those responsible, and thank you - and I want others to know it's out there.
And to AT&T - if this is being trialed as a possible future company wide program: as a customer, you have gained MANY loyalty points with me for it. This would definitely encourage me to remain with AT&T for the long term.
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Just verifying your post.
I called service center and she knew nothing about this program. She called the support center and they confirmed it for her with the 150 dollar price.
Thanks for the help.
My only question is, my phone is rooted... I obviously don't want to return it that way without putting the factory image back on it.
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Just wanted to show everyone that this is legit.
Thanks OP.
Worked great!
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I was stoked when the Rep told me I had to pay tax on the $150.00 and not the tax on the full price, like when you upgrade.
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chris82o said:
I was stoked when the Rep told me I had to pay tax on the $150.00 and not the tax on the full price, like when you upgrade.
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Never had to pay tax on full device when I upgrade.... I always pay tax on the amount of what I'm paying for

glad to hear...
Glad to hear others have had such good luck. Also pleased that it's more widely available.

refurb from most warranties anyway now...
In the last few years almost every electronic device I've had was replaced under warranty at least once and usually with refurbished anyway. Most warranties clearly state these days in fine print that manufacturer may replace with new or "equivalent refurbished item at manufacturer's sole discretion". Since I end up with refurb anyway, sometimes I just buy that to start, if warranty is the same...
Bajanman said:
But with insurance your more likely for them to send you a new device. Unlike it being refurbish! But you'll have a 90 day warranty on the refurb...
Crazy that's just 45 minutes from me!
Gonna call and c how much they'll charge for another phone I broke. If that's the case then excellent program. But prefer to b sent a new device thru insurance tho. JMO
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Just my 2¢
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sorry didn't see sooner - they don't care if rooted
Bsmith0731 said:
Just verifying your post.
I called service center and she knew nothing about this program. She called the support center and they confirmed it for her with the 150 dollar price.
Thanks for the help.
My only question is, my phone is rooted... I obviously don't want to return it that way without putting the factory image back on it.
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When I was getting my replacement I talked with them a lot about how the program works. They told me in clear terms that they don't care if the phone is rooted, if a dinosaur stepped on it, or anything else. They did say you might wish to flash to factory standard so you don't leave any personal info on it, but that's all.

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In the last few years almost every electronic device I've had was replaced under warranty at least once and usually with refurbished anyway. Most warranties clearly state these days in fine print that manufacturer may replace with new or "equivalent refurbished item at manufacturer's sole discretion". Since I end up with refurb anyway, sometimes I just buy that to start, if warranty is the same...
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So youre the reason for high insurance rates anf deductibles
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no - don't buy insurance
rquinn19 said:
So youre the reason for high insurance rates anf deductibles
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Nope. I don't buy insurance, because I don't think I should be paying extra for something to work as it's designed to, and product quality should be expected. When I see a company shorten its warranty then offer "insurance" I buy from someone else. It's like paying 'protection money.'
I'm afraid we'll have to blame poor product quality for that one.

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Samsung Warranty Replacement

I've heard some folks talk about Samsung warranty service. What are the stipulations of doing it through them vs a Sprint corporate store? Also, do you get a new phone through Samsung, or do they send you a refurb?
I am in a process of doing the same thing but I called sprint and they said it's still under warranty from Samsung so they will check it out. This guy did it check
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24986685
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When I got my E4GT replaced they gave me refurb
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I sent my phone into samsung after sprint told me they couldn't do anything because it was rooted (morons). Anywho, they shoot you a ups label, print it, ship it out with 3 sides having the ticket number on it. They give you a link in an email so you can track the progress through repair, haven't gotten my phone back yet, but from what the ticket updates say, it seems like they are just repairing my phone i sent in. If that changes, i'll let you know.
what was wrong with your phone?
Ask for a white one, most likely it will be brand new
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Sprint cs Rep told me to get TEP Insurance and take it to sprint store they don't care when u get it they just look at u have it or not. I am getting my replacement in 3 days.
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You will more than likely get a refurbished unit.
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I sent my phone into samsung after sprint told me they couldn't do anything because it was rooted (morons). Anywho, they shoot you a ups label, print it, ship it out with 3 sides having the ticket number on it. They give you a link in an email so you can track the progress through repair, haven't gotten my phone back yet, but from what the ticket updates say, it seems like they are just repairing my phone i sent in. If that changes, i'll let you know.
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Thats company policy (moron).
digweed4me said:
Sprint cs Rep told me to get TEP Insurance and take it to sprint store they don't care when u get it they just look at u have it or not. I am getting my replacement in 3 days.
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Don't listen to this kid. They do know when your insurance was added, and they do care. He is suggesting you commit insurance fraud.
If the Sprint rep told you to jump off a bridge would you do that?
TonyTurboII said:
You will more than likely get a refurbished unit.
Thats company policy (moron).
Don't listen to this kid. They do know when your insurance was added, and they do care. He is suggesting you commit insurance fraud.
If the Sprint rep told you to jump off a bridge would you do that?
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Company policy is to work on rooted devices unless it is a software issue and you are on a custom rom then you need to go back to a stock rom. TEP and asurion are NOT real insurance and insurance laws don't apply to them, it would be just plain fraud, which would be hard to prove since fraud means you did something with the intention to get something more for free by intentionally doing something to get it, ie smashing your phone or microwaving it to get an upgraded device and not a replacement for a malfunctioning/broken device. I work in property insurance and even certain things that are blatantly done to be able to up the value of the claim in the policy holders favor isn't considered fraud. Either way Asurion and TEP are not insurance, insurance law doesn't apply to them which is why they are called device/equipment protection and not device/equipment insurance. In my state (FL) they aren't allowed to use the word insurance in their advertisement or paperwork because the law says they aren't an insurance company are not governed in the same way as insurance companies and never will be because they are a monopoly and there is no competition in prices you have the choice of asurion or nothing and it is contracted through the carrier and not chosen by the customer with a choice to shop for a competitive premium/deductible
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Company policy is to work on rooted devices unless it is a software issue and you are on a custom rom then you need to go back to a stock rom. TEP and asurion are NOT real insurance and insurance laws don't apply to them, it would be just plain fraud, which would be hard to prove since fraud means you did something with the intention to get something more for free by intentionally doing something to get it, ie smashing your phone or microwaving it to get an upgraded device and not a replacement for a malfunctioning/broken device. I work in property insurance and even certain things that are blatantly done to be able to up the value of the claim in the policy holders favor isn't considered fraud. Either way Asurion and TEP are not insurance, insurance law doesn't apply to them which is why they are called device/equipment protection and not device/equipment insurance. In my state (FL) they aren't allowed to use the word insurance in their advertisement or paperwork because the law says they aren't an insurance company are not governed in the same way as insurance companies and never will be because they are a monopoly and there is no competition in prices you have the choice of asurion or nothing and it is contracted through the carrier and not chosen by the customer with a choice to shop for a competitive premium/deductible
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Idaho is Similar in calling it the protection plan. But when all is said and done pay for the protection plan is mainly a guarantee that one way or another that we will have a solution for you. Yeah you can go through Samsung but you can run the risk of getting your "Broken" phone back after waiting for 6-8 weeks, with no solution. Usually paying the 35 and doing an store replacement will be easier on the pocket book as well as alot faster 2-5 days at the most. This will also allow you to add the TEP if you want.
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Idaho is Similar in calling it the protection plan. But when all is said and done pay for the protection plan is mainly a guarantee that one way or another that we will have a solution for you. Yeah you can go through Samsung but you can run the risk of getting your "Broken" phone back after waiting for 6-8 weeks, with no solution. Usually paying the 35 and doing an store replacement will be easier on the pocket book as well as alot faster 2-5 days at the most. This will also allow you to add the TEP if you want.
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The worst part of asurion is they have no QC on what type of refurbs they send out, most of the time you get some kind of crap phone with more problems and aesthetic damage than the one you're having replaced. This is one reason why I don't have asurion or TEP. The other being that all my electronics are covered under my homeowners policy and any portable electronics (cell phones, laptops, PSP, gameboy, mp3 players etc) are covered in and out of the house from loss, theft or damage. I pay nothing extra on my premium and my deductible is $50 per device. If anything happens to my device (no matter what or what kind of device) instead of paying asurion or sprint my money up front, I file a claim with my insurance company, and 3 days later I get a check for the full MSRP of the device less $50. So if my phone is $600 off contract I would get a check for $550 which I can do whatever I want with. I could add my $50 to it and buy a brand new phone or I could cash the check buy a used device and pocket the difference. What makes it even nicer is my insurance payment are direct deposited to my bank account so i don't have to wait for a check to clear, and I get my funds in 12-72 hours depending on the time/day I filed my claim.
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Company policy is to work on rooted devices unless it is a software issue and you are on a custom rom then you need to go back to a stock rom.
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Service is refused if the device is not running the correct software, short of a failed charging port.
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Service is refused if the device is not running the correct software, short of a failed charging port.
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Not for both of mine that have been replaced. My tech guy was running CM9 on his personal Nexus S 4g, and I told him mine were rooted and were running a ROM when the problem occurred. The first bricked one I was able to get access to the internal sd card and format it and put stock recovery back on it and the second one had the blue led of death so it didn't matter what it was running.
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Not for both of mine that have been replaced. My tech guy was running CM9 on his personal Nexus S 4g, and I told him mine were rooted and were running a ROM when the problem occurred. The first bricked one I was able to get access to the internal sd card and format it and put stock recovery back on it and the second one had the blue led of death so it didn't matter what it was running.
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I mean I don't care personally and I still work on them myself, but the word from above says otherwise. Seems to vary day by day though.

[Q] Best insurance option in case my phone gets stolen or lost?

which insurance do you guys recommend for my new note 2 in case it gets stolen or lost?
also i got my daughter an iphone 5(i couldn't convince her to get the s3 instead), so i need insurance for it as well in case it is lost or stolen.
Thanks
I use Sprint's TEP. It's pretty good.... Expensive than others.
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I use Sprint's TEP. It's pretty good.... Expensive than others.
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thanks i will check them out for my note 2, but i dont think they cover lost/stolen for the iphone 5.
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best insurance I found is worth ave group.
with coupon codes its $66.20 a year for $2000 in coverage unlimited usage and $25 deductible.
Covers damage and theft but not loss then again if its lost IT IS stolen so file a police report.
sprints TEP is $11 a month in other words $132 a year AND the deductible is $200 !!! and IIRC you can only use it once a year (I could be wrong on that)
I think worth without coupon code is $75 a year or something like that. way way cheaper and better than sprints tep and it covers all your toys (I have all my phones my laptop and my camera's on it)
just sign up for the student plan.
Squaretrade
I have had no problems with squaretrade
their quick also much cheaper the Sprint TEP
nerys71 said:
best insurance I found is worth ave group.
with coupon codes its $66.20 a year for $2000 in coverage unlimited usage and $25 deductible.
Covers damage and theft but not loss then again if its lost IT IS stolen so file a police report.
sprints TEP is $11 a month in other words $132 a year AND the deductible is $200 !!! and IIRC you can only use it once a year (I could be wrong on that)
I think worth without coupon code is $75 a year or something like that. way way cheaper and better than sprints tep and it covers all your toys (I have all my phones my laptop and my camera's on it)
just sign up for the student plan.
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thanks i will check out worth ave group
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I have had no problems with squaretrade
their quick also much cheaper the Sprint TEP
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i thought squaretrade doesn't cover lost or stolen?
Sprint total protection.
Applies gps to your phone if lost, can track from your pc and they give you a new phone if broken.
Extra 8 bucks a month.
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Sprint total protection.
Applies gps to your phone if lost, can track from your pc and they give you a new phone if broken.
Extra 8 bucks a month.
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It is $11 for the note 2...and the gps tracking is optional. If you don't set it up before hand it won't work. Not to mention most stolen phones are either imediately turned off or hard reset. (though I have talked to a few people that have found their phone this way)
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your right sorry
they do not
Sprints coverage has 2 parts. One is insurance and the other is tep. The insurance is from asurion, you pay 200 and they ship you a new phone and you get it by the next business day. The tep which is total equipment protection is used whenever you have a problem with your phone that isn't covered under warranty anymore. For example if your speaker goes out they will fix it for free or if like me your screen starts messing up they will get you a whole new phone. If not for that then I would have to take the Samsung warranty and they ask that you mail it to them, wait while they fix it and then they ship it back. It can take from 2 to 3 weeks. Sprint will still check your phone but fixing it will cost 35 or more I believe. I think its 8 for insurance and 5 for tep, but I believe the insurance used to be 6. Not quite sure about any of this as it is just off the top of my head. I do know that the 11 or 13 package has 2 parts.
I have best buy insurance. $169 one time charge (you can opt for monthly) and no deductible ever.
Guaranteed 5 day turn around, they give you a loaner in the meantime.
I don't think they cover theft, perhaps if you have a police report.
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MeetFace said:
I have best buy insurance. $169 one time charge (you can opt for monthly) and no deductible ever.
Guaranteed 5 day turn around, they give you a loaner in the meantime.
I don't think they cover theft, perhaps if you have a police report.
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best buy does not cover lost or stolen
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Best buy covers absolutely everything except lost or stolen. Unlimited claims and no deductible! They order you a new phone and give you a loaner If you need one. As far as lost or stolen, if you have their geek squad, there is a free app called locked And found that tracks where your phone is and takes pictures of what it sees with the front facing camera (a thiefs face maybe?) and reports to a website only you have access to.
For those who have the protection plan get a hold of your gsp# off your receipt because the app asks for it, or call best buy mobile.
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The best buy program is junk. I had it and tried to get it fixed while traveling. First of all the replacement store would only give me a loner if I was able to return it to the same store. Now someone traveling like I was is screwed plus the loner was any phone not the same phone. The second issue was they said my phone wasn't broke enough because my problem was intermittent. They actually told me to go back to the parking and break the screen then they would replace it.
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The best buy program is junk. I had it and tried to get it fixed while traveling. First of all the replacement store would only give me a loner if I was able to return it to the same store. Now someone traveling like I was is screwed plus the loner was any phone not the same phone. The second issue was they said my phone wasn't broke enough because my problem was intermittent. They actually told me to go back to the parking and break the screen then they would replace it.
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Not trying to be a argumentative but I don't think your complaints are valid.
1) I understand requiring you to return to the same store is not as convenient as possible... but creating the infrastructure to manage inter-store returns for loaner require technology investments which would surely increase the cost of insurance. Besides, most insurance programs don't even have this feature. It's inconvenient for travelers but making accomodations for such cases may not necessarily be worth the investment.
Also, loaners are temporary. To match your phone... and everyone else's, best buy must have at least one of every phone ever, for each store. (At least within the last two years). Do you expect them to open a new box everytime they dont have a matching loaner availabe?...assuming they even have them in stock?
As per your second complaint I don't know what the problem was, but bb doesn't automatically do replacements. .. instead will do repairs on fixable problems. Correct me but I believe that's what happened. They offered to do a repair but you wanted a replacement.
I think the only thing you can criticize bb for is they were asking you to commit insurance fraud.
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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I think the only thing you can criticize bb for is they were asking you to commit insurance fraud.
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its not even insurance. its a protection plan. similar, but not the same thing. i dont know if you can call it insurance fraud unless it is underwritten by an indemnity company.
that being said, you are correct, sir.
Sprint TEP + Kaspersky One, insurance and the ability to track, lock and wipe your phone.
You can also take pictures of the person using it.
It's win....
I dumped sprint insurance after having it on multiple phones for over 8 years. Monthly charge and deductible for the note were way too high for me. I switched to ensquared (or something like that)
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chuhsi said:
I dumped sprint insurance after having it on multiple phones for over 8 years. Monthly charge and deductible for the note were way too high for me. I switched to ensquared (or something like that)
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How much you pay and what does ir cover?
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[Q] Broken Glass, ATT insurance, matters of opinion(update in op)

Ok lets get this out of the way first. Yes my glass broke second day of owning, yes I was being careful and wasn't neglect on my part. Phone should have been able to survive a fall from less then 12" only landing on its back with out breaking glass.
Ok now that we got that taken care of here are my options.
1. Buy $30.00 glass attempt repair on my own. Question with this are if I mess up or something gets damaged could I still claim insurance(ie. will they know I have opened phone)
2. Att states they will replace for $199.99 but will likely be refurbished unit(which sucks). If I go this route will I need to flash back to stock and reset flash count or will they even check that. Rooted with custom recovery and att clean rom. Any one had experience with att insurance claim?
Local shops say its impossible to replace just the glass. Repair would be $425.00 so that is out.
Edit: I tried to call the walmart I purchased it from and got no answer. So I called another walmart and told her what happened. She said we are told we can't exchange phones that are damaged and you only get one exchange. So I thought I was screwed. She then said read your contract if it doesn't say anything about the condition of the phone or the number of times Walmart will have to replace phone. She kept emphasizing to read contract. Then said if I have any problems Call her back and she will call corporate. Sure enough contract states you can exchange phones in the 14 days nothing about condition or number of times. So following walmarts contract I got the note replaced. As of today if anything thing happens I have insurance. I also bought a temporary case till otterbox gets here.
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I've dealt with att twice and it was agreeable. The second time I sent my note 1 in for the same issue (charging port failure) they sent me a brand new device. The truth is you don't always get a refurb, it's just kind of luck and how much product is on hand (so I was told by att cs).
If you try to fix the screen yourself and fail DON'T send it in for warranty... That's fraud and effects the prices for everyone else.
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Try searching next time. Here a few ppl have claimed to replaced only the glass but from experience on my s2 skyrocket its a pain in the a** and I ended up cracking the digitizer. If so tho ppl in this thread say to search for videos on youtube. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090892
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Try searching next time. Here a few ppl have claimed to replaced only the glass but from experience on my s2 skyrocket its a pain in the a** and I ended up cracking the digitizer. If so tho ppl in this thread say to search for videos on youtube. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090892
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I did search, I'm not a newbie I wasn't asking about how to replace the glass or if it is possible i was asking for opinions of my next course of action. I have seen the threads and watched the videos.
The customer is always right...
Sorry about your shattered screen. that's rough. hope I can offer some insight on your warranty situation:
You have two angles of attack:
1. Go in with your tail tucked between your legs, and pray for the best possible outcome. If the outcome is less than optimal, follow step 2:
2. Argue pleasantly, until you're satisified.
That said, at&t is usually pretty good with succumbing to "motivated" customers. I've always tried, and with great sucess, gotten all of my replacements by contacting them through e-mail or phone (and a few times at the service centers). My own personal experience has lead me to believe, if you go in, they're more likely to scrutinize you, your credability and your story and stick you with the least desirable option. My brother-in-law is a very "motivated" customer, and has almost always been "satisifed" by at&t (that's what she said) (shattered screens, water submersion, etc).
And as far as relocking\returning to stock, again, IME, I've only had them check my device for root/BL tampering twice, and they simply checked to see if their was a stock recovery. And I think it was only because the kid was knowledgable enough to know how to check. Otherwise, I've always gotten the impression the sales person doesn't know how to check for evidence of a tampered device.
If Steps 1 and 2 fail, try droping the, ETF-bomb. "How much is my Early Termination Fee?" In my experience, they always come back with good news from their supervisor. YMMV. And just as an FYI, when I have dropped the ETF-bomb, I had legitmately wanted to end my service; I wasn't threatening.
Good luck and hope some of this was useful to you! like I said, YMMV.
PS. If you go into one service center and they give you your options, that doesn't stop you from leaving with your device and getting a "second opinion" from another, possibly more agreeable service center. And then if you care to, as a last resort, you can always try contacting them through e-mail\phone.
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Sorry about your shattered screen. that's rough. hope I can offer some insight on your warranty situation:
You have two angles of attack:
1. Go in with your tail tucked between your legs, and pray for the best possible outcome. If the outcome is less than optimal, follow step 2:
2. Argue pleasantly, until you're satisified.
That said, at&t is usually pretty good with succumbing to "motivated" customers. I've always tried, and with great sucess, gotten all of my replacements by contacting them through e-mail or phone (and a few times at the service centers). My own personal experience has lead me to believe, if you go in, they're more likely to scrutinize you, your credability and your story and stick you with the least desirable option. My brother-in-law is a very "motivated" customer, and has almost always been "satisifed" by at&t (that's what she said) (shattered screens, water submersion, etc).
And as far as relocking\returning to stock, again, IME, I've only had them check my device for root/BL tampering twice, and they simply checked to see if their was a stock recovery. And I think it was only because the kid was knowledgable enough to know how to check. Otherwise, I've always gotten the impression the sales person doesn't know how to check for evidence of a tampered device.
If Steps 1 and 2 fail, try droping the, ETF-bomb. "How much is my Early Termination Fee?" In my experience, they always come back with good news from their supervisor. YMMV. And just as an FYI, when I have dropped the ETF-bomb, I had legitmately wanted to end my service; I wasn't threatening.
Good luck and hope some of this was useful to you! like I said, YMMV.
PS. If you go into one service center and they give you your options, that doesn't stop you from leaving with your device and getting a "second opinion" from another, possibly more agreeable service center. And then if you care to, as a last resort, you can always try contacting them through e-mail\phone.
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Good advice all the way around, all though not too sure about ETF because I'm still on my new contract 14 days. Not sure how they would take that. I also thought about see what Walmart would do since that is where the phone was purchased do to pricing. With the screen not sure how they would handle that can't find anything on the web about the return policy for store bought phones.
chrisryn said:
Good advice all the way around, all though not too sure about ETF because I'm still on my new contract 14 days. Not sure how they would take that. I also thought about see what Walmart would do since that is where the phone was purchased do to pricing. With the screen not sure how they would handle that can't find anything on the web about the return policy for store bought phones.
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Well then, you just opened up your options - try a bunch of different Wal-marts. One of them is bound to have a lackluster employee who doesn't care, and just wants to go back to doing nothing - find that guy\gal and bring home your new N2.
If there is no physical damage to the body of the phone, you have better support to your story that the screen was flawed. I would really fight that point, that the screen was flawed.
Honestly, they don't have a leg to stand on, if there is no physical evidence to the body of the phone that it was "accidental damage", and they're not going to call you a liar (at least not to your face). With all of this, keep in mind to "argue" as politely as possible, but be persistent. Wear them down and get to yes! Illegitimi non carborundum.
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And yeah, as far as the ETF-bomb, it may not help if you're only 14 days into your contract. I've been with at&t since 2002 and I have 3 lines, so, that may factor in on their decision with the ETF-bomb.
I was with att for ten years when they decided to move out my upgrade date out of now where claiming it was because of a data overage. I was out of contract ready for renewal the didn't give a S*** about me canceling. I went to Verizon and it was a nightmare had 4 gig limit and they where charging me overage at 3.5 gig. Fought with them for about 3 months before I was able to use breach in contract with a supervisor to get out with out a ETF. Now I'm back at ATT and had this happen.
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I was with att for ten years when they decided to move out my upgrade date out of now where claiming it was because of a data overage. I was out of contract ready for renewal the didn't give a S*** about me canceling. I went to Verizon and it was a nightmare had 4 gig limit and they where charging me overage at 3.5 gig. Fought with them for about 3 months before I was able to use breach in contract with a supervisor to get out with out a ETF. Now I'm back at ATT and had this happen.
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thaaaaat sucks.
Move out your upgrade date because of data overage? weird. that makes no sense to me.
Here's a possible option: it's $200 and you have to return your current device or, is it $200 for a new device and you keep your shattered device? If it's the latter, then possibly sell the current N2 as-is on eBay\craigslist and use that money to purchase replacement? I am inclined to believe it is probably $200 + returning current N2.
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thaaaaat sucks.
Move out your upgrade date because of data overage? weird. that makes no sense to me.
Here's a possible option: it's $200 and you have to return your current device or, is it $200 for a new device and you keep your shattered device? If it's the latter, then possibly sell the current N2 as-is on eBay\craigslist and use that money to purchase replacement? I am inclined to believe it is probably $200 + returning current N2.
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The said thing about the overage was it was due to their lack luster dsl department getting our dsl turned on at the new house. Seemed that the old tenant had some cheap phone service and never turned it off. They wanted $800.00 to run new lines. So we where using phones as all internet for a month. I'm pretty sure that I will have to return device, once the other comes in. I'm going to try walmart first, then if that doesn't work see if I can talk the deductible down on the att insurance and hope its not a refurbished. I have had to many android and iphones(wife) that have been through three young boys with out damage and this one damages so easy. Either way new device will not be fully used till it is safe in a case then still treated like a baby.
Bonne chance!
chrisryn said:
The said thing about the overage was it was due to their lack luster dsl department getting our dsl turned on at the new house. Seemed that the old tenant had some cheap phone service and never turned it off. They wanted $800.00 to run new lines. So we where using phones as all internet for a month. I'm pretty sure that I will have to return device, once the other comes in. I'm going to try walmart first, then if that doesn't work see if I can talk the deductible down on the att insurance and hope its not a refurbished. I have had to many android and iphones(wife) that have been through three young boys with out damage and this one damages so easy. Either way new device will not be fully used till it is safe in a case then still treated like a baby.
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sounds good to me.
good luck and let me know what you worked out.
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I didn't see this mentioned but I recommend getting the insurance protection from Best Buy. You can still get it even if you don't get the phone from Best Buy. You can pay one flat fee to cover the year or pay $7 a month.
They will replace your phone at no extra cost for physical or water damage.
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I didn't see this mentioned but I recommend getting the insurance protection from Best Buy. You can still get it even if you don't get the phone from Best Buy. You can pay one flat fee to cover the year or pay $7 a month.
They will replace your phone at no extra cost for physical or water damage.
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Very much aware of that. Had it on my Galaxy nexus gave it to my mom she dropped it hard cracked the screen now she is waiting for her refurb to come in. They told me it was replaced at the store when I brought it in, with new unit. I have had to loan her my inspire while she waits 5-10 days for the other to come in. Not really satisfied with that plan either.
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That's weird. I've had to have 3 devices replaced through best buy over the last couple of years. I've never had to wait more than 3 days. I Also like that you get a loaner phone till the replacement comes in.
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I asked for a loaner they said they don't do that.
Edit: Hoping my inspire doesn't suffer same fate.
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I'm actually a manager at a best buy mobile.. We are supposed to supply loaners if we have them with a $50 deposit that you get back when your phone comes back in.. Some stores don't charge that even though they should.. For android devices the insurance is $9.99 a month or $169.99 for 2 years.. Everything is covered except lost or stolen.. Which we do have a free app called locked and found that will let you lock your phone out if it is lost or stolen. It will take pictures with the front facing camera and email them to you with a location.. The best part is there are unlimited claims and no deposit
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I'm actually a manager at a best buy mobile.. We are supposed to supply loaners if we have them with a $50 deposit that you get back when your phone comes back in.. Some stores don't charge that even though they should.. For android devices the insurance is $9.99 a month or $169.99 for 2 years.. Everything is covered except lost or stolen.. Which we do have a free app called locked and found that will let you lock your phone out if it is lost or stolen. It will take pictures with the front facing camera and email them to you with a location.. The best part is there are unlimited claims and no deposit
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They wouldn't even let me talk to a mobile associate had to talk to GEEK SQUAD, sometimes I wonder the requirements for Geek squad hiring, Guy didn't know anything. Nothing against Best Buy just had bad experience mobile wise here. Best buy is my favorite store, Been platinum reward member for 8 years now.
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They wouldn't even let me talk to a mobile associate had to talk to GEEK SQUAD, sometimes I wonder the requirements for Geek squad hiring, Guy didn't know anything. Nothing against Best Buy just had bad experience mobile wise here. Best buy is my favorite store, Been platinum reward member for 8 years now.
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I get that a lot with complaints from the big box stores.. Next time try a best buy mobile store.. It's a more one on one experience and we usually know a little more
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I get that a lot with complaints from the big box stores.. Next time try a best buy mobile store.. It's a more one on one experience and we usually know a little more
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I would but we don't have those here.
You should not be concerned AT ALL that you may get a refurbished phone. I've done it couple of times and the phone is always perfect brand new condition. It's not like it will have scuffs on it or non-working parts....not to worry.
Also don't need to reset your phone to stock...you're getting it replaced due to broken screen not complaints that it is not functioning.

Any experience with warranty?

My home button has started acting up.. it is kinda sunk in, makes a squeaky around and not as responsive. I called att today and talked with multiple people.. seems they won't replace phone for a button malfunction but I can pay 199 for a new phone since I have insurance. Any other ideas? Its really bugging me..
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Try calling Samsung and ask about their wear and tear (seeing as how you wore out your button waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before it was supposed to... you know... tear). Here might have to search for the phone number tho. Good luck!
Just call again. Tell them you home button has stopped working. Dont ask them what they can do to help you or youll get the rundown for sure. When the rep picks up the phone and say how may I help you tell them I need a warranty replacement. No if's and's or but's about it. Be firm(not an ass) and youll get your way:thumbup:
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Warranty replacement as in free and not using my insurance? I will def try this approach.
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Also I wonder if they will send a new phone or a referbushed
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you will get a refurb and they will take their time getting it to you, based on my two warranty replacements last year
Go to a DSC
Warranty only replaces phones for manufacturer defects, and physical keys malfunctioning or “sunk in” isn’t a common issue on the Note II. If you file a warranty claim they will send you a phone (refurbished) and you will send in your defective unit. When they get the defective phone though they are going to take it out of the package and check for physical and liquid damage. If they find ANY physical damage (which a missing or lose or sunk in button might be considered physical damage) they are going to charge you an OUT OF WARRANTY FEE and its going to be A LOT more than the $199 Insurance deductible. And since they read some Terms and Conditions before doing the exchange and you must agree that you won’t send in a damaged unit (verbal contract) those charges are going to be Valid.
And when you call in to dispute the $399+ charge and threaten to cancel they are going to tell you about your ETF (Early Termination Fee) for which you have to pay to break your contract (written contract which you signed), so after the ETF + OOW (Out Of Warranty) Fee + your Months Bill and you’re looking at around 1000$ you’re going to be very frustrated, and if you’re not then you’re a very unique individual who has some powerful control over their emotions.
Here is what I recommend you do.
Go to att.com/dsc and see if there is a Device Support Center near you. A DSC is a warranty center you can go into in person and they can tell you whether your device is physically damaged or not and if it isn’t and your still under warranty they can do a same day exchange right there at that location and it is no longer on you at all. No fees to worry about.
In any case I personally wouldn’t take the chance of an out of warranty fee.
Good luck Nemesis_9
~James~
I agree with James to some extent. Usually if you go to the local store they will take your side and document the faulty button as a manufacturing defect... That will allow you to send it to your carrier without worry that they will charge you.
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How to tell if my refurb is the t999L?

I made a warranty exchange, asking to try and get the new LTE variant and the guy said he'd try to send me one via warranty exchange. Opened the box and this is what came in it. Looking on the back, without the battery says regular t999, is this accurate way of telling? Or do I have to power it on?
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Mine shows SGH-T999L under the battery, so you did NOT get an LTE version. I don't think that you would, they haven't be out long enough to have refurbs yet.
Yes what it says under the battery is what you got. They're not gonna replace your T999 with a T999L unless they are totally out.
And even if they were willing to do so, it'd probably only be done for people who are already in markets with LTE. Did you ever verify for sure your area has LTE?
Is that a refurbished or a new one though? Didn't someone say that the refurbs don't come with a battery?
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Looking at it more, you got the documentation, cables, SIM card.....If that's a nib device I'd say you still got really lucky!
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That's the refurb I got. Back case, cables, battery, headphones, etc. Noticed the power button stuck a little, couldn't tell anything else was wing with it.
And yes, I am in an LTE area. Got another device on the way. Just gonna keep trying till I get it. Check my other thread for the details, this whole process has been going quite well surprisingly
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I remember the other thread, but it'd help others if you post a link. (Probably should've.just continued posting there instead of a opening new thread)
I think.that's where someone said the refurbished devices don't come with a battery and other parts. I was just curious.
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Model number would have the L playa!
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I made a warranty exchange, asking to try and get the new LTE variant and the guy said he'd try to send me one via warranty exchange. Opened the box and this is what came in it. Looking on the back, without the battery says regular t999, is this accurate way of telling? Or do I have to power it on?
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Question, how you guys do warranty exchange? From below after 14 days (CA 30 days).
they will charge handling for the phone under manufacturer warranty
If you recently purchased a new T-Mobile phone
You have 14 calendar days for discounted purchases with an annual plan at retail stores (30 in CA), 20 calendar days for online purchases via t-mobile.com, and 30 calendar days for full price purchases from the date of purchase, to return purchased equipment to the point of purchase.
Equipment must be in good working condition with original contents and packaging to be eligible for a refund of the purchase price. This return policy applies to the purchase of new equipment from T-Mobile or its authorized dealers. Proof of purchase is required.
We may charge a restocking fee. A different return period may apply to accessory purchases. Prepaid cards, software, or games are not refundable.
If your phone is defective and still under the manufacturer warranty
If your phone is defective and still under manufacturer warranty, you can return it directly to the manufacturer. T-Mobile can assist you by providing you with a replacement phone and submitting your phone to the manufacturer for you. This is a service that T-Mobile provides as a supplement to the manufacturer warranty that may come with your phone.
T-Mobile charges a processing fee for this service. If you would like T-Mobile to provide you with a replacement phone and to send your defective phone to the manufacturer for you, contact Customer Care to order a replacement. Please note that when you call, Customer Care will first attempt to troubleshoot your phone issues. For this reason, please make your initial call to Customer Care from a different phone or you may limit the ability to troubleshoot.
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Question, how you guys do warranty exchange? From below after 14 days (CA 30 days).
they will charge handling for the phone under manufacturer warranty
If you recently purchased a new T-Mobile phone
You have 14 calendar days for discounted purchases with an annual plan at retail stores (30 in CA), 20 calendar days for online purchases via t-mobile.com, and 30 calendar days for full price purchases from the date of purchase, to return purchased equipment to the point of purchase.
Equipment must be in good working condition with original contents and packaging to be eligible for a refund of the purchase price. This return policy applies to the purchase of new equipment from T-Mobile or its authorized dealers. Proof of purchase is required.
We may charge a restocking fee. A different return period may apply to accessory purchases. Prepaid cards, software, or games are not refundable.
If your phone is defective and still under the manufacturer warranty
If your phone is defective and still under manufacturer warranty, you can return it directly to the manufacturer. T-Mobile can assist you by providing you with a replacement phone and submitting your phone to the manufacturer for you. This is a service that T-Mobile provides as a supplement to the manufacturer warranty that may come with your phone.
T-Mobile charges a processing fee for this service. If you would like T-Mobile to provide you with a replacement phone and to send your defective phone to the manufacturer for you, contact Customer Care to order a replacement. Please note that when you call, Customer Care will first attempt to troubleshoot your phone issues. For this reason, please make your initial call to Customer Care from a different phone or you may limit the ability to troubleshoot.
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Old thread lol
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