Google Wallet and Nandroid Backup Question? - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Are we albe to make a Nandroid Backup with GW working or should we always Wipe the Data before making a Nandroid back up?? I know when ever flashing a New Rom we should wipe the data, but what about making a backup?? Thank you!!

darkstar765 said:
Are we albe to make a Nandroid Backup with GW working or should we always Wipe the Data before making a Nandroid back up?? I know when ever flashing a New Rom we should wipe the data, but what about making a backup?? Thank you!!
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I'm a bit confused with your question but nandroid backups data, it's one of the reason we use it. So w/e data you have on your phone, if it's not the same as the data in your nandroid, it will overwrite it upon restoring your backup.

BWolf56 said:
I'm a bit confused with your question but nandroid backups data, it's one of the reason we use it. So w/e data you have on your phone, if it's not the same as the data in your nandroid, it will overwrite it upon restoring your backup.
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Sorry, I mean just wiping the Google Wallet data as in resetting the app. My main question is if we do a Nandoid backup w/ Google Wallet working and data not wiped will it break our secure element or is it safe to do a nandoid back up?

darkstar765 said:
Sorry, I mean just wiping the Google Wallet data as in resetting the app. My main question is if we do a Nandoid backup w/ Google Wallet working and data not wiped will it break our secure element or is it safe to do a nandoid back up?
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I never tested it myself but my guess is that if you backed up the working data, restoring your nandroid should be fine.

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[Q] A few questions about flashing ROMs

Hey All,
I am curious about a few things...
I had a couple/few nandroid back ups that were stored on my phone, do you all only keep 1 nandroid and delete your previous backups?
I am running mikfroyo and flashed another ROM about 2 days ago, had some issues so I went back to mik. I think I may have done it in a way that nobody else does...I did it like I was flashing it for the first time, wipe everything and flash from sd card.
Should I have just did a nandroid restore? What does this actually bring back? Text, recent calls, apps?
When doing a nandroid restore should I wipe all before doing so? I would imagine the answer is yes.
And one more, before switching to any new ROM, should I always flash Caulkins Format All zip?
Thank you.
Nand restore will restore everything that was on your phone when you made the backup. Definitely a good idea to flash the zip when installing a new ROM. I also do it to restore though.
When you restore, unless you are backing up the cache, which isn't necessary, you need to minimally wipe the cache/dalvik before you restore. Also, if your SD Card is partitioned, you would need to wipe SD EXT. I pretty much flash Calk's format all anytime I restore or flash a new ROM.
I almost never have one back up. I have a few ROMs I like so, I set them up the way I want and restore between them when I get bored, which is like 100 times a day it feels like.
I do usually only keep the latest backup of any one ROM though. At any given time I probably have at least 5.
Edit: I re-read your post and I think I misunderstood one part the first time. Sometimes, when I got back to a previous ROM, I do just reflash it and start over, but I am anal about fresh starts. Usually I do just nand restore, especially if I know the setup was running well. I don't typically restore a lot between ROMs b/c I feel like it just adds to something that can go wrong. A lot of times I redownload apps instead of restoring, especially if they are purchased, since they are just stored in my apps in the market anyway. And I never restore app data. Usually end up only restoring about 30 apps w/out data, but most people do backup/restore a lot of info with no problems.
You should have just restore from a previous backup. When you restore, it bring ti back to EXACTLY how it was, texts, number of calls, ect. Actually you don't need to wipe when doing a restore. Well you can manually wipe all of them, or flash the format all, so I'm saying yes.
Also, I suggest against wiping data before creating a nandroid backup, lol. That would defeat the purpose, as your info and apps will be gone! Just wipe cache and davlik before a backup, or nothing at all, just so there's no confusion.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to wipe anything before backing up. But if your going to restore a different ROM and there's no cache included in the nand back up you're going to restore, then best to wipe it before you restore.
jstalford said:
Also, if your SD Card is partitioned, you would need to wipe SD EXT. I pretty much flash Calk's format all anytime I restore or flash a new ROM.
It is partitioned, what gets stored on there that needs to be wiped, apps?
Thanks for your help
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It is partitioned, what gets stored on there that needs to be wiped, apps?
Thanks for your help
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If the ROM has a2sd built in, yeah, if not, nothing. I always wipe it just so I'm in the habit of doing it for when it's there. Also depending on how a2sd is set up, dalvik can be on there.

[Q]How to backup without root?

as the title says, i want to backup my phone for root. however most backup programs require root. anyone able to help me out?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18578780
Follow the steps above, BUT after you Odin recovery do a nandroid backup BEFORE you root with the superuser zip. This way your backup won't have root access.
Now you don't have to root at all, but at least you'll have access to recovery and have a stock backup and SU zip file handy in case you do want to root.
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thank you sir, i just didnt want to reinstall all the apps and stuffs that i already had on here before root. yeah its a small thing but still would like to save the settings i had and whatnot on them.
there's no way to perform a full back without root
all the good backup Apps requires root to work
namely Nandroid (in CWR) or Titanium Backup
Where does nandroid store the backup? I was going to restore a backup, after data wipe, wipe cache, and wipe system/dalvik. I always wipe these when installing any ROM on my Vibrant and now SGS II. No backup exists now.
It must be one of the areas I wiped. I need to know so I don't wipe my backups anymore?
apicia said:
Where does nandroid store the backup? I was going to restore a backup, after data wipe, wipe cache, and wipe system/dalvik. I always wipe these when installing any ROM on my Vibrant and now SGS II. No backup exists now.
It must be one of the areas I wiped. I need to know so I don't wipe my backups anymore?
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/sdcard/external_sd/clockworkmod/backup
AllGamer said:
there's no way to perform a full back without root
all the good backup Apps requires root to work
namely Nandroid (in CWR) or Titanium Backup
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Thats not exactly true... Nandroid backup can be done in cwm without root.
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Restoring nandroid?

I made a nandroid backup when i was stock rooted and ive flashed a few custom roms since. So if i want to go back to stock rooted from ddw can i just restore the backup in recovery? Should i superwipe or anything. Sorry for the noob question i just havent restored a backup ever.
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Z-Man™ said:
I made a nandroid backup when i was stock rooted and ive flashed a few custom roms since. So if i want to go back to stock rooted from ddw can i just restore the backup in recovery? Should i superwipe or anything. Sorry for the noob question i just havent restored a backup ever.
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I would have to say yes to both of your questions...it is always a good thing to wipe before changing ROMs or even backups IMHO
Z-Man™ said:
I made a nandroid backup when i was stock rooted and ive flashed a few custom roms since. So if i want to go back to stock rooted from ddw can i just restore the backup in recovery? Should i superwipe or anything. Sorry for the noob question i just havent restored a backup ever.
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I personally never superwipe if I restore a backup and i have never had problems with restoring to and from ics, gb, tw and aosp versions of both. But as the user above me says, it certainly never hurts
yoft1 said:
I personally never superwipe if I restore a backup and i have never had problems with restoring to and from ics, gb, tw and aosp versions of both. But as the user above me says, it certainly never hurts
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I think you can create a MD5 error by superwiping before restoring. Just restore the backup, and clear cache & davlik.
KillaHurtz said:
I think you can create a MD5 error by superwiping before restoring. Just restore the backup, and clear cache & davlik.
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I don't believe that is true as I've had md5 mismatches after trying to restore and was told it is usually from changing the backups file name and or backing up in one recovery and trying to restore from another but in no dev that's just what I was told when I asked about mismatches. But doing a super wipe prior to restoring a backup will not cause md5 mismatch...as I always wipe before a restore
sinfulgay said:
I don't believe that is true as I've had md5 mismatches after trying to restore and was told it is usually from changing the backups file name and or backing up in one recovery and trying to restore from another but in no dev that's just what I was told when I asked about mismatches. But doing a super wipe prior to restoring a backup will not cause md5 mismatch...as I always wipe before a restore
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Thanks for clearing that up sinfulgay
KillaHurtz said:
Thanks for clearing that up sinfulgay
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Yeah man :thumbup:

[Q] Restoring from CWM Backup

I have a question:
If I backup my current ROM, flash a completely stock one, then restore only data from the CWM backup. Will I get back my apps and everything I installed and did on the phone?
Thanks。
Buddhism said:
I have a question:
If I backup my current ROM, flash a completely stock one, then restore only data from the CWM backup. Will I get back my apps and everything I installed and did on the phone?
Thanks。
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yes, but be sure that data is selected for backup. also if rom system apps are moved to preload you cant restore it

TWRP and Restore Backup

Hi guys. I'm using the 2.6 version of TWRP. It seems whenever I restore a backup things always seem to go wrong and the OS reboots the first 24-48 hours before things are eventually stable. Do I need to factory reset and wipe system, cache and dalvik cache before I restore a backup, or should restore simply take care of everything for me already when I'm switching from one ROM to another?
mhajii210
One of the reasons I don't backup.
But, yeah I suppose you would want to clear data and cache before you flashed a backup.
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mhajii210 said:
Hi guys. I'm using the 2.6 version of TWRP. It seems whenever I restore a backup things always seem to go wrong and the OS reboots the first 24-48 hours before things are eventually stable. Do I need to factory reset and wipe system, cache and dalvik cache before I restore a backup, or should restore simply take care of everything for me already when I'm switching from one ROM to another?
mhajii210
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You should always wipe cache, data, system, dalvik cache and do a factory
reset before restoring a nandroid backup or flashing a new or different rom.
Doing a factory reset before restoring a nandroid backup will not make
you loose anything at all because the nandroid backup contains all your
settings, apps, mms, contacts and anything else you had in your rom
prior to making the nandroid backup.
It would also be best if you went to the play store and download the free app
"Goomanager" and use that to make sure you have the latest version of TWRP
for your phone.
Good luck!

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