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Can't Nandroid Restore Fresh 1.01! **HELP**

I searched the forum and the internet before this post. I am not able to restore a nandroid backup of fresh. Everytime I do I am thrown into a never ending boot loop. I've tried to install the radio, wimax, rom, and then nandroid restore over that..nothing..ive tried just to do the nandroid restore after a data, cache, and delvik cache wipe. I've tried most of the things that I thought would be logical and I cannot restore my nandroid backup. If I install the ROM things work fine but I cannot restore the nandroid backup. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
CJ

Have you tried removing the SD card right after a nandroid restore?

No. Will try that right now.
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Why do these obvious question and answer type posts keep ending up in Android Development?????

IMO this is a "Question" and "Questions" go in the "Question and Answer" section.... When you want to make a rom, or develop some software come post in this section.
ceejay3k said:
I searched the forum and the internet before this post. I am not able to restore a nandroid backup of fresh. Everytime I do I am thrown into a never ending boot loop. I've tried to install the radio, wimax, rom, and then nandroid restore over that..nothing..ive tried just to do the nandroid restore after a data, cache, and delvik cache wipe. I've tried most of the things that I thought would be logical and I cannot restore my nandroid backup. If I install the ROM things work fine but I cannot restore the nandroid backup. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
CJ
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What recovery are you using? If it is Clockwork, it doesn't wipe sufficently for Fresh's ROM and thus causes the boot loop problem. You have to wipe using Amon RA's recovery and then reflash Fresh. You could go back to Clockwork after wiping with Amon.
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chazglenn3 said:
Why do these obvious question and answer type posts keep ending up in Android Development?????
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Because there is a STAGGERING amount of information just in our little corner of this forum and a traditional forum layout is a sh*t way of handling this amiunt of data.
I wish it didn't happen too, but vie moved on to accepting and understanding it. About all we can do is not flip out on people or be rude when we tell them they are doing it wrong. Otherwise they will just ignore us.

Well first to chazglenn3, spiicytuna, and alcaron, I'm sorry for not posting in the correct section. I didnt mean any harm. I forgot about is other sections of supersonic because this page was in my favorites.
Anyway, @uclajw1, I was using amon's recovery and nothing worked. What I ended up having to do was wipe the device (data, cache, delvik), install radio, wimax, restore nandroid backup, and then flash the Rom over all of that and I got into the OS. From there, I was getting FC's like crazy so I reinstalled all the apps forgetting about the feature in titanium backup that I could use to fix file permissions. But for now all is well. That's just a lot of work to do again do i hope I can figure something else out...
CJ
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uclajw1 said:
What recovery are you using? If it is Clockwork, it doesn't wipe sufficently for Fresh's ROM and thus causes the boot loop problem. You have to wipe using Amon RA's recovery and then reflash Fresh. You could go back to Clockwork after wiping with Amon.
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Why do people keep saying this? Hasn't this been fixed awhile ago?

[Q] New ROM without wiping data & cache

I have upgraded from my rooted 2.1 to the rooted official HTC 2.2. However to avoid having to reinstall things and setup my phone I did not wipe the data & cache before flashing the ROM.
Is this a particularly bad idea for some reason? Everything seems to work OK... so far!

elziko said:
I have upgraded from my rooted 2.1 to the rooted official HTC 2.2. However to avoid having to reinstall things and setup my phone I did not wipe the data & cache before flashing the ROM.
Is this a particularly bad idea for some reason? Everything seems to work OK... so far!
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hm, did you do nandroid backup + titanium backup all data etc?

kmetek said:
hm, did you do nandroid backup + titanium backup all data etc?
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yes I have a full nandroid backup of my original ROM should anything go wrong. I didn't do a titanium backup though because I thought that not wiping the data & cache would be easier.
If it doesn't work out then I can revert to my nandroid backup and start again, this time WITH a titanium backup.
I'm wondering what sort of problems I should expect?

elziko said:
I'm wondering what sort of problems I should expect?
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The problem issue of not wiping data is kinda random... Sometimes when you flash a different ROM despite not wiping data it would work and sometimes it wouldnt.
When upgrade your ROM and flash the same ROM but with different version, you can do it without wiping. The impact should be minimum.
When you flash a different ROM that the currently using, there is a chance that not wiping might result in a boot-loop or the ROM not working as it should be.
The main guideline should be to flash any ROM and do a full wipe if you get a boot-loop or find any issue with the ROM. Doing a full wipe when flashing different ROMs is also recomended.

OK, thanks. Since I have all the backups to go back if needs be I think I'll carry on and see if I have any issues.

elziko said:
I have upgraded from my rooted 2.1 to the rooted official HTC 2.2. However to avoid having to reinstall things and setup my phone I did not wipe the data & cache before flashing the ROM.
Is this a particularly bad idea for some reason? Everything seems to work OK... so far!
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Personally, I think it's a risky.
However, wait until you get problems, then do a full wipe, including Davlik cache and do NOT restore apps from a backup after.

[Q] nandroid backup question

so say i did a nandroid back up after i flashed a custom rom, does the nandroid also back up the current settings, apps, logins, home screen layouts for that particular custom rom? So you could have different nandroids of different ROMS?

evo4gfan said:
so say i did a nandroid back up after i flashed a custom rom, does the nandroid also back up the current settings, apps, logins, home screen layouts for that particular custom rom?
So you could have different nandroids of different ROMS?
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Yes.
It clones everything on your rom and restores everything the exact way it was when you backed it up.
I've yet to find anything Nandroid didn't restore.
And yes.
You can have different Nand backups for multiple roms and you can switch between them without reflashing the rom and starting over.
(Just make sure to wipe Data, Cache, and Dalvik when switching between roms)

xNotta said:
Yes.
It clones everything on your rom and restores everything the exact way it was when you backed it up.
I've yet to find anything Nandroid didn't restore.
And yes.
You can have different Nand backups for multiple roms and you can switch between them without reflashing the rom and starting over.
(Just make sure to wipe Data, Cache, and Dalvik when switching between roms)
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awesome, thanks

CM7 final bootloop

So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?

i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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KNguyen104 said:
i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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Using the RomManager interface I chose to Wipe Data and Cache and also chose the gapps package to install. I guess I could try it again but I was mystified why it didnt work since I "thought" it was so simple.

If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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snowboarda42 said:
If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?

Alpine- said:
I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?
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No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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Alpine- said:
So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?
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I had the same issue....although mine have been caused by restoring system data.
What I did is manually DL the rom, boot into recover, wiped cache/dalvic, flashed from zip (Both CM7 and the proper GAPPS file) and it worked.

eventer289 said:
No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.

Alpine- said:
nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.
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So wait, still getting the loops?

teh roxxorz said:
So wait, still getting the loops?
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I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.

Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.
What I started doing was booting into RECOVERY (i know it sounds scary but it really isn't) A little off topic but there is a great app that I think every rooted user should use, it's called: Reboot Control Widget It only costs a measly $1 in the Market but it's well worth it. Basically you put the widget on the desktop and click on it. You are then given the option to Reboot your phone, Hot Boot (fast reboot), boot into Recovery, Bootloader or Shut Down. Best dollar you will ever spend on an app.
So anyway, l strayed from my point. The problem you are experiencing is partially due to not having fully wiped your phones data/cache. I know you think you did it through the Clockwork app but from experience it doesn't work that well. There is a "flashable" file called Calkulin's Format All. It is in the DEV section posted in Calkulin's Rom section. It will clear everything except the contents of your SD card.
1. Boot into RECOVERY
2. find: INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
3. select the Calkulin's Format ALL.zip file (your phone will be totally clean after this)
4. Again, choose INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
5. Select the ROM you want to flash. (If it is a Cyanogen based ROM you will have to flash the appropriate Google Apps file after flashing the ROM. If flashing a Sense ROM the Gapps file is not necessary)
6. Flash Gapps file (Google apps if necessary)
7. Once this is done select REBOOT SYSTEM NOW
I feel confident that if you follow those steps you won't run into any bootloops!

I have added the Format All.zip file that I mentioned in my last post.
Little advice:
- take the time to do a Nandroid before flashing a new rom
- use Titanium to restore only the apps w/o the data. I know it's nice to restore everything the way you had it on the last rom but from my experience this has led to instability in the new rom. Also from my experience when you are on a SENSE rom and use Titanium to backup your files and data when you install a AOSP (like CM) rom and try to restore those files and data it won't even let you. Just something to keep in mind if you are switching between CM to Sense or vice versa.

Alpine- said:
I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.
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Yes it should.
Manually wipe you factory/data, cache, dalvik, then flash the rom with the latest gapps and you'll be good.

SantinoInc said:
Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.....
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Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?

when you use clockwordmod recovery to wipe your phone the dalvik doesn't wipe with the wipe option you see on the main screen, i belive you will see the option to wipe it in the advanced menu

Alpine- said:
Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?
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They are the same. ROM Manager boots you into recovery and nandroids for you. People have mixed experiences with ROM Manager. From my experience it is best just to boot manually into recovery and take care of all your flashing and wiping there.
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[Q]How to backup without root?

as the title says, i want to backup my phone for root. however most backup programs require root. anyone able to help me out?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18578780
Follow the steps above, BUT after you Odin recovery do a nandroid backup BEFORE you root with the superuser zip. This way your backup won't have root access.
Now you don't have to root at all, but at least you'll have access to recovery and have a stock backup and SU zip file handy in case you do want to root.
Powered by the SGSII....

thank you sir, i just didnt want to reinstall all the apps and stuffs that i already had on here before root. yeah its a small thing but still would like to save the settings i had and whatnot on them.

there's no way to perform a full back without root
all the good backup Apps requires root to work
namely Nandroid (in CWR) or Titanium Backup

Where does nandroid store the backup? I was going to restore a backup, after data wipe, wipe cache, and wipe system/dalvik. I always wipe these when installing any ROM on my Vibrant and now SGS II. No backup exists now.
It must be one of the areas I wiped. I need to know so I don't wipe my backups anymore?

apicia said:
Where does nandroid store the backup? I was going to restore a backup, after data wipe, wipe cache, and wipe system/dalvik. I always wipe these when installing any ROM on my Vibrant and now SGS II. No backup exists now.
It must be one of the areas I wiped. I need to know so I don't wipe my backups anymore?
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/sdcard/external_sd/clockworkmod/backup

AllGamer said:
there's no way to perform a full back without root
all the good backup Apps requires root to work
namely Nandroid (in CWR) or Titanium Backup
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Thats not exactly true... Nandroid backup can be done in cwm without root.
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