so say i did a nandroid back up after i flashed a custom rom, does the nandroid also back up the current settings, apps, logins, home screen layouts for that particular custom rom? So you could have different nandroids of different ROMS?
evo4gfan said:
so say i did a nandroid back up after i flashed a custom rom, does the nandroid also back up the current settings, apps, logins, home screen layouts for that particular custom rom?
So you could have different nandroids of different ROMS?
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Yes.
It clones everything on your rom and restores everything the exact way it was when you backed it up.
I've yet to find anything Nandroid didn't restore.
And yes.
You can have different Nand backups for multiple roms and you can switch between them without reflashing the rom and starting over.
(Just make sure to wipe Data, Cache, and Dalvik when switching between roms)
xNotta said:
Yes.
It clones everything on your rom and restores everything the exact way it was when you backed it up.
I've yet to find anything Nandroid didn't restore.
And yes.
You can have different Nand backups for multiple roms and you can switch between them without reflashing the rom and starting over.
(Just make sure to wipe Data, Cache, and Dalvik when switching between roms)
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awesome, thanks
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I have upgraded from my rooted 2.1 to the rooted official HTC 2.2. However to avoid having to reinstall things and setup my phone I did not wipe the data & cache before flashing the ROM.
Is this a particularly bad idea for some reason? Everything seems to work OK... so far!
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I have upgraded from my rooted 2.1 to the rooted official HTC 2.2. However to avoid having to reinstall things and setup my phone I did not wipe the data & cache before flashing the ROM.
Is this a particularly bad idea for some reason? Everything seems to work OK... so far!
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hm, did you do nandroid backup + titanium backup all data etc?
kmetek said:
hm, did you do nandroid backup + titanium backup all data etc?
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yes I have a full nandroid backup of my original ROM should anything go wrong. I didn't do a titanium backup though because I thought that not wiping the data & cache would be easier.
If it doesn't work out then I can revert to my nandroid backup and start again, this time WITH a titanium backup.
I'm wondering what sort of problems I should expect?
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I'm wondering what sort of problems I should expect?
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The problem issue of not wiping data is kinda random... Sometimes when you flash a different ROM despite not wiping data it would work and sometimes it wouldnt.
When upgrade your ROM and flash the same ROM but with different version, you can do it without wiping. The impact should be minimum.
When you flash a different ROM that the currently using, there is a chance that not wiping might result in a boot-loop or the ROM not working as it should be.
The main guideline should be to flash any ROM and do a full wipe if you get a boot-loop or find any issue with the ROM. Doing a full wipe when flashing different ROMs is also recomended.
OK, thanks. Since I have all the backups to go back if needs be I think I'll carry on and see if I have any issues.
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I have upgraded from my rooted 2.1 to the rooted official HTC 2.2. However to avoid having to reinstall things and setup my phone I did not wipe the data & cache before flashing the ROM.
Is this a particularly bad idea for some reason? Everything seems to work OK... so far!
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Personally, I think it's a risky.
However, wait until you get problems, then do a full wipe, including Davlik cache and do NOT restore apps from a backup after.
This is a Noob question, if I wipe data and cache 3 times with CWM and then restore a backup created just before with CWM doesn't it put back all the stuff that I tried to wipe for clean ROM flashing? Or is there garbage in there that does not get backed up and restored?
Thanks.
It will put pretty much everything back. It doesn't backup and restore the kernel, though.
So what is the purpose of wiping 3 times. Does that allow the new ROM kernel to install properly? Then we can restore everything back on top of the new kernel? The main reason I ask is after flashing a new ROM and only wiping once (I know!) about once every other day my txt messages get stuck sending. I have to reboot to send and then the clock starts again until this reoccurs. So is it best to backup with CWM, wipe 3 times, flash, then restore with CWM?
Thanks.
Wiping three times is because there has been a question about whether clockwork 2.5.x wipes certain partitions properly. Apparently it returns back from the function much faster than it should. Some people do seem to have intermittent problems when wiping once. I generally only wipe once between roms, but if anything isn't working right I go back and wipe 3x and reinstall.
Generally, when you wipe something, you aren't going to be restoring it all back. You want to wipe between different roms because certain things may be set up differently in the two and you may get weird glitches and force closes. If you are wiping to get rid of a bug, then you shouldn't restore a buggy backup or you will probably still have the bug.
You can try doing a reinstall of the base rom, wiping first of course. Then you can go restore->advanced restore->restore data to get apps and settings back. See if you still have the problem. If so, then you're going to have to wipe again and reinstall the base rom, but DONT restore your backup. You may be able to carry some apps and settings across with something like Titanium if you absolutely can't start from scratch again.
AH! Now I get it...thank you for that explanation. Tried the 3X wipe today with restore from CWM 2.5.1 so will wait and see if the SMS problem shows up again. Thank you again.
Hey All,
I am curious about a few things...
I had a couple/few nandroid back ups that were stored on my phone, do you all only keep 1 nandroid and delete your previous backups?
I am running mikfroyo and flashed another ROM about 2 days ago, had some issues so I went back to mik. I think I may have done it in a way that nobody else does...I did it like I was flashing it for the first time, wipe everything and flash from sd card.
Should I have just did a nandroid restore? What does this actually bring back? Text, recent calls, apps?
When doing a nandroid restore should I wipe all before doing so? I would imagine the answer is yes.
And one more, before switching to any new ROM, should I always flash Caulkins Format All zip?
Thank you.
Nand restore will restore everything that was on your phone when you made the backup. Definitely a good idea to flash the zip when installing a new ROM. I also do it to restore though.
When you restore, unless you are backing up the cache, which isn't necessary, you need to minimally wipe the cache/dalvik before you restore. Also, if your SD Card is partitioned, you would need to wipe SD EXT. I pretty much flash Calk's format all anytime I restore or flash a new ROM.
I almost never have one back up. I have a few ROMs I like so, I set them up the way I want and restore between them when I get bored, which is like 100 times a day it feels like.
I do usually only keep the latest backup of any one ROM though. At any given time I probably have at least 5.
Edit: I re-read your post and I think I misunderstood one part the first time. Sometimes, when I got back to a previous ROM, I do just reflash it and start over, but I am anal about fresh starts. Usually I do just nand restore, especially if I know the setup was running well. I don't typically restore a lot between ROMs b/c I feel like it just adds to something that can go wrong. A lot of times I redownload apps instead of restoring, especially if they are purchased, since they are just stored in my apps in the market anyway. And I never restore app data. Usually end up only restoring about 30 apps w/out data, but most people do backup/restore a lot of info with no problems.
You should have just restore from a previous backup. When you restore, it bring ti back to EXACTLY how it was, texts, number of calls, ect. Actually you don't need to wipe when doing a restore. Well you can manually wipe all of them, or flash the format all, so I'm saying yes.
Also, I suggest against wiping data before creating a nandroid backup, lol. That would defeat the purpose, as your info and apps will be gone! Just wipe cache and davlik before a backup, or nothing at all, just so there's no confusion.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to wipe anything before backing up. But if your going to restore a different ROM and there's no cache included in the nand back up you're going to restore, then best to wipe it before you restore.
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Also, if your SD Card is partitioned, you would need to wipe SD EXT. I pretty much flash Calk's format all anytime I restore or flash a new ROM.
It is partitioned, what gets stored on there that needs to be wiped, apps?
Thanks for your help
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It is partitioned, what gets stored on there that needs to be wiped, apps?
Thanks for your help
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If the ROM has a2sd built in, yeah, if not, nothing. I always wipe it just so I'm in the habit of doing it for when it's there. Also depending on how a2sd is set up, dalvik can be on there.
I made a nandroid backup when i was stock rooted and ive flashed a few custom roms since. So if i want to go back to stock rooted from ddw can i just restore the backup in recovery? Should i superwipe or anything. Sorry for the noob question i just havent restored a backup ever.
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Z-Man™ said:
I made a nandroid backup when i was stock rooted and ive flashed a few custom roms since. So if i want to go back to stock rooted from ddw can i just restore the backup in recovery? Should i superwipe or anything. Sorry for the noob question i just havent restored a backup ever.
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I would have to say yes to both of your questions...it is always a good thing to wipe before changing ROMs or even backups IMHO
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I made a nandroid backup when i was stock rooted and ive flashed a few custom roms since. So if i want to go back to stock rooted from ddw can i just restore the backup in recovery? Should i superwipe or anything. Sorry for the noob question i just havent restored a backup ever.
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I personally never superwipe if I restore a backup and i have never had problems with restoring to and from ics, gb, tw and aosp versions of both. But as the user above me says, it certainly never hurts
yoft1 said:
I personally never superwipe if I restore a backup and i have never had problems with restoring to and from ics, gb, tw and aosp versions of both. But as the user above me says, it certainly never hurts
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I think you can create a MD5 error by superwiping before restoring. Just restore the backup, and clear cache & davlik.
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I think you can create a MD5 error by superwiping before restoring. Just restore the backup, and clear cache & davlik.
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I don't believe that is true as I've had md5 mismatches after trying to restore and was told it is usually from changing the backups file name and or backing up in one recovery and trying to restore from another but in no dev that's just what I was told when I asked about mismatches. But doing a super wipe prior to restoring a backup will not cause md5 mismatch...as I always wipe before a restore
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I don't believe that is true as I've had md5 mismatches after trying to restore and was told it is usually from changing the backups file name and or backing up in one recovery and trying to restore from another but in no dev that's just what I was told when I asked about mismatches. But doing a super wipe prior to restoring a backup will not cause md5 mismatch...as I always wipe before a restore
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Thanks for clearing that up sinfulgay
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Thanks for clearing that up sinfulgay
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Yeah man :thumbup:
hello guys, i am using PA rom now, but i want to test another rom, but i have so much apps and so much configurations, is all in titanium backup but every time i install a new rom i must restore data for apps i want, so i was wondering, nandroid backup can restore all my files and even the rom that i was using? and about performance, when i want to go back to PA, is better restore a nandroid backup o clean flash and reinstall all apps?
and about the procedures is like this:
Nandroid of ROM 1
wipe and flash ROM 2
wipe and restore nandroid backup.
my question is about the correct procedure to restore, do i need to wipe data before?
i like to test s much roms but is so bad to take about 3 hours to configure everything when i come back to the i was before.
thanks in advance
leandronb said:
hello guys, i am using PA rom now, but i want to test another rom, but i have so much apps and so much configurations, is all in titanium backup but every time i install a new rom i must restore data for apps i want, so i was wondering, nandroid backup can restore all my files and even the rom that i was using? and about performance, when i want to go back to PA, is better restore a nandroid backup o clean flash and reinstall all apps?
and about the procedures is like this:
Nandroid of ROM 1
wipe and flash ROM 2
wipe and restore nandroid backup.
my question is about the correct procedure to restore, do i need to wipe data before?
i like to test s much roms but is so bad to take about 3 hours to configure everything when i come back to the i was before.
thanks in advance
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Titanium Backup and Carbon(Helium now ) doesn't cause any issue due they restore only /data/data/APP datas
Wipe data is need (ALWAYS) over Rom switching for different Settings and Features, e.g:
AOKP -> PA : Full data wipe ( i prefer add wipe system due nightly script recovery that keep gapps ) + Restore Carbon is right procedure
Pa -> Pa: in theory you need only wipe cache & dalvik
Nandroid is evil, restore nandroid data backup is same of dont do anywipe due nandroid make image of data partitions, and reflash it
Nandroid is usefull only as backup ( data lost or nightly fail or something like this )
I suggest anyway over change rom , delete /sdcard/Android for new system base.
so use a nandroid is valid? no performance loss when using it?
i want to try codex rom but i already setup everything i wanted on PA and i dont want to flash codex, and if i dont like and want to go back to PA i must setup everything again. this is the main reason i don not flash roms to much. i few months ago i never stayed in same rom for a week, but now i am tired to setup the same things again.
so if i make a nandroid of my current rom, flash codex test a few days, and restore nandroid everything will be fine like was before?