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[Q] What IMEI to give AT&T when I activate Gnex?

Galaxy Nexus arrived yesterday. Currently using a One X, which I will likely be returning, so I'm on a micro sim card. Therefore, I have to go to AT&T store and get a new sim.
When I call AT&T to activate the new sim, they will ask me for my IMEI. What should I give them to make sure they are able to keep my unlimited data plan? I've read that if I give them the Galaxy Nexus actual IMEI, it will not show up in the system as a smartphone, and this will cause all sorts of problems.
Should I give them the IMEI of my wife's AT&T Galaxy S2? If I did this, would it kick her off of her data plan?
Or should I google around and see if I can find the IMEI for some other HSPA+ AT&T phone?
Advice appreciated!

So I was pretty much in your situation as well. Ordered a HOX and they sent a micro sim card and deactivated my old one. However I was planning to sell the HOX and continue to use the GN so I needed a standard sim card. I just went into the AT&T store and he setup a new sim card for me and tried scanning the IMEI number, but as you mentioned it didn't show up in the AT&T system. I'm not sure what he did, but I still have my unlimited data plan and my GN working. When I view my phone on att.com it doesn't show up as any device. I'd go into the store, they'll know what to do.

[Q] GoPhone... Will a Glide work?

It seems that the Glide is only an AT&T-branded phone. Has anyone used one with GoPhone? Thought about picking up an unlocked one on eBay but I don't want to encounter the same "Invalid SIM card" issue I encounter when I put my GoPhone SIM card into my unlocked AT&T-sourced Skyrocket. Thanks for any info!

I can't say for certain, but I don't see why not. I use my phone with the T-Mobile monthly 4g plan and everything works fine. I do however, only have an EDGE/2g speed data wise due to the frequencies, but the phone was designed for AT&T so that wouldn't be a problem for you.

narume said:
I can't say for certain, but I don't see why not. I use my phone with the T-Mobile monthly 4g plan and everything works fine. I do however, only have an EDGE/2g speed data wise due to the frequencies, but the phone was designed for AT&T so that wouldn't be a problem for you.
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Appreciate the reply, narume. I think that the issue arises from this:
trinikartel said:
Let me know if you ever get that working.
What i THINK is that any phone that comes out of AT&T's clutches are in their system (both imei and with carrier iq) so once it you pop a sim into it and the information is matched to a device in their system they know what can and can't be allowed for the device. With international devices they don't have those IMEIs (which is why they always want the imei from you so they can match it in their system)
Your note is international...they can't "match or track it" so to their system it's just another random dumb phone
Your skyrocket is a known LTE/HSPA+ device to the system so it says no cheap data for you
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So...assuming that this reasoning is correct, if AT&T knows that it's their phone they will have blocked its IMEI from being able to access data through GoPhone. And I would need 3G access in order to use it on my MicroCell. Anybody...?

Any at&t phones will work on go phone, and you can use a microcell as well, your phone still uses the 3/4G signal to connect for calls and texts. Also to get data to work for pictures, and mms you just need to call them and they will send you the apns, my nephew in law has an atrix 2 on a microcell with pic messaging working great. They also have a solstice 2 (dump phone) on the microcell, both go phones.
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If you're getting Invalid SIM, you may have a locked SIM card, something AT&T started doing with their prepaid a while back. New prepaid accounts have the SIM locked to the phone it was purchased with for ~3 months, after that I believe you have to either call or visit a store to have the lock removed.
Other than that, there's no reason it shouldn't work, but do remember that AT&T will see it as a smartphone. This means with their new prepaid plans, if you're using the 10 cents a minute plan you'll be unable to use data at all. If you're using one of the flat amounts per month, like the $25 or $50 plans, you'll need to purchase a data package (even though the $50 is SUPPOSED to include unlimited internet, smartphones aren't eligible).
I previously used a Motorola Flipside on AT&T's prepaid, before this change I was using the 10 cents a minute plan, with 1000 texts a month and buying a 500mb data package, then rolling over unused data each month with the 10mb package, and everything worked the same as if I was on postpaid - text, mms, internet, etc.

Thanks all! I'm 1½ months into my prepaid service. I'll check with AT&T after 3 months have passed and see if they can remove the SIM lock.

You might go ahead and call customer service anyway, who knows, you may get lucky. 3 months was what a rep told my friend a year or so ago, but that may have changed or may not have been the rule at all. Alternatively, you can go into a local store and purchase a new sim (or purchase one on ebay) and have them transfer your account over to it, just make sure they give you a regular sim and not a go-phone sim.
I just tested my captivate glide with the sim I was using in my flipside. It seems to read the sim just fine, though obviously I'm not still a prepaid customer so I can't make any real calls with it. I've also used it on a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G that was unlocked, briefly, when I was working on the flipside. Once you have the sim lock removed I expect you'll have no problems using it in any unlocked or AT&T locked phone.

If you use the 50 dollar plan and use the wap.cingular apn it will use data just set that up before you put in your sim, and do call they should unlock it for you, if not tell them you will be going to straight Talk at&t phones work locked on them since it's a part of at&t just ran by walmart.
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I have two Glides that I activated in June. NEITHER WAS SIM-LOCKED, ever.
Both are the newer 4G SIM, not the older one that says 3G on it. Got em from eBay for about $2.75 each. Both were activated online, about 3 weeks apart.
The first one, I activated with an IMEI of a Glide that broke and was able to use the SIM on a different Glide and other phones, even the Pantech Burst and got 4G. I activated it as 10c plan, then moved it to the $50 unlimited.
The second one was activated with 0000... generic IMEI with the 10c plan, and just like the first one, I was able to use the SIM on any GSM phone I have in the house (and that's quite a few).
APN: wap.cingular - only the name is needed, no userid, etc.

[Q] I Don't Want To Pay for a DATA PLAN!

So check this out.... I am an AT&T user and back when the HTC HD2 came out for T-Mobile I bought it from a friend when they signed up for a new contract. Got an unlock code from Ebay and have been using it for the past 2 years without having to have a data plan, never got added automatically to my plan like i have heard happen to others? And I'm wondering why? Is it possibly cuz its a T-Mobile phone? Or is it cuz I still have an old "Cingular" SIM card? I am curious about this because right now, Wally World has a special sale on the phone at $249, plus a $100 gift card, which will bring the phone down to $150 basically, so a pretty damn good deal for a phone just out on the market. And I'm plan on getting it this week, I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if at some point if i was able to get a T-Mobile version of the Samsung Note 2 if i could slip my SIM card into it and then be able to cancel my DATA plan, if i told them i went back to a Motorola Razr or something, which worked when i got my HD2? Or will AT&T be able to see that i have a smartphone? Is it the newer smaller SIM card, that will tell AT&T that I have a smartphone, or will the phone it self be what sends info to the servers or whatever that tells AT&T I have a smartphone? Or do you think this method of getting a T-Mobile phone and using an AT&T SIM card will work and I won't get stuck with a DATA plan? Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi so I have no need for the Data plan it will be going to waste.

The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.

I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.

acey_zero said:
I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I'm wondering if it has something to do with the IMEI? If it isn't listed in there network or something? Maybe I will be alright? I don't know... But back when I got the Tmobile HD2 I went from a Motorola Razr to the HD2 just fine and wasn't automatically enrolled into a data plan, like some others people on at&t were that got the same phone. I don't know how I wasn't, but I'm happy I wasn't and was hoping to find out how to avoid it again. Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi, I don't need to throw away, $15 to $30 extra a month when I'm not even going to use the Data network very often. I have been going just fine with my HD2 with no data plan, just using Wi-Fi.

P1 Wookie said:
The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
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Right, I know I'll have to get a new SIM card and that is what kinda worries me, I don't know anything about the SIM cards. I was just curious if my older "Cingular" SIM card is what was helping keep me stay under the radar of them not knowing I have a smartphone, or if its because, the HD2 phone I have is from Tmobile and not in their system, so it can't recognize it? I went from a Razr to the HD2 and it still shows as a Razr in my account. An when I get the Note 2 phone, hopefully from Tmobile sometime, I was hoping I can still get away with not having to add a Data plan if i can find out how to avoid it...

Its all in the IMIE ... I was using a Galaxy Nexus overseas on a dumb phone plan because they didnt have the IMIE in system they couldnt tell it was a smartphone but they have cracked down on it now. Only phone that seem to be making it through the loop hole is overseas ones that are not very popular. If you switch to the AT&T version you will 100% be put on data plan if you choose a note 2 from say Rogers there is a slight chance you could sneak under the radar and not need it but for how long no one really knows.

I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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hiii_imkris said:
I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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Do you work at an AT&T store or something? Just curious, cuz it kinda sounds like it from the way you worded that reply. I've read on other threads that AT&T does checks or sweeps every now and then, that might detect a smartphone? Have you heard about that before, not sure what they meant by that?

[Q] current GoPhone user w/o smartphone plan wants GN2...

Sorry for the newbie-ish question, but I hope to get a solid answer before I make a purchase.
I'm running an Android phone on AT&T currently via a GoPhone sim. I don't have or use data, and I don't even care about it. All I use it for is voice/sms/wifi-data. But, I'm needing to replace the phone. What I'd like to do is get a Galaxy Note II, but *keep* the same GoPhone account setup...no data...no mms...just plain old voice/sms.
So, my two questions:
1) I've seen threads about persons trying to make it work with data and the proper apn, but has anyone had success using this just as a 'dumbphone' on their $0.10/minute cheap GoPhone plan?
2) Will I have to get another sim card (micro), and have AT&T transfer my account to it? Or, will I need to cut my current one (normal size) down? Will that work?
Thanks for your patience and expertise!!

Yes, I've tried GN2 as a GoPhone!
Okay, Koohiisan, let me see if I can answer your questions for you.
1) I've seen threads about persons trying to make it work with data and the proper apn, but has anyone had success using this just as a 'dumbphone' on their $0.10/minute cheap GoPhone plan?
2) Will I have to get another sim card (micro), and have AT&T transfer my account to it? Or, will I need to cut my current one (normal size) down? Will that work?
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Sometimes you just have to buy something and try it out to be certain. I did that, and now I think I can answer your questions in a meaningful way.
You'll be pleased to know that yes, you can do this with 100% success! Like yourself, I had a GoPhone account and the GoPhone SIM to go with it. After receiving my Galaxy Note II, I pulled the SIM from my prior phone, cut it with a SIM cutter (normal -> micro) and put it in the Galaxy Note II. It booted up, detected the SIM, and connected to AT&T's network with zero issues! Calling and SMS works perfectly with no changes needed.
I did disable the APN using APNDroid, just so I wouldn't run afoul of AT&T's network since I, like yourself, didn't have data at all.
So, to answer: yes, you can take a GoPhone SIM, cut it (by hand or with a dedicated cutting tool), and install it in a Galaxy Note II and it will work with no issues! Hope this helps! ;D

800 dollar phone with no data,, seems like a sin ..lol jj

What can I say?
twanskys204 said:
800 dollar phone with no data,, seems like a sin ..lol jj
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I know...it's tempting to add it...but I did the get phone for less than *half* that price, and I'm incredibly cheap.
My next plan is to try to enable the T-Mobile freqs and unlock it so that I can have a little more freedom about adding data down the road.

picture messaging
koohiisan said:
Okay, Koohiisan, let me see if I can answer your questions for you.
Sometimes you just have to buy something and try it out to be certain. I did that, and now I think I can answer your questions in a meaningful way.
You'll be pleased to know that yes, you can do this with 100% success! Like yourself, I had a GoPhone account and the GoPhone SIM to go with it. After receiving my Galaxy Note II, I pulled the SIM from my prior phone, cut it with a SIM cutter (normal -> micro) and put it in the Galaxy Note II. It booted up, detected the SIM, and connected to AT&T's network with zero issues! Calling and SMS works perfectly with no changes needed.
I did disable the APN using APNDroid, just so I wouldn't run afoul of AT&T's network since I, like yourself, didn't have data at all.
So, to answer: yes, you can take a GoPhone SIM, cut it (by hand or with a dedicated cutting tool), and install it in a Galaxy Note II and it will work with no issues! Hope this helps! ;D
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hello, i did the samething except i cant get my picture messaging to work on my SGH-I317 Note 2. Using the APNDroid that you talked about will it help the issue with picture messaging.

Don't think so, sorry...
firefighter0213 said:
hello, i did the samething except i cant get my picture messaging to work on my SGH-I317 Note 2. Using the APNDroid that you talked about will it help the issue with picture messaging.
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As I understand it, MMS (picture messaging) requires data. If you are running this same comfiguration I am (dumb-phone GoPhone SIM without data), then you won't be able to get MMS.

I thought the default GoPhone plans included mms?

GoPhone data APN is different?
bob60626 said:
I thought the default GoPhone plans included mms?
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I can't post a link to it due to my post count, but if you Google for "How to use an AT&T GoPhone data plan with a 4G Android or iPhone" you'll find the post from marathon studios that I just read on this subject. According to that site, it looks like the GoPhone data APN is actually 3G, and is different from the 4G AT&T APN. So without using APNdroid to change to the proper settings your phone would be pointed by default to the wrong APN.
According to that article, however, you still need to have a GoPhone data package on your plan. I'm on the cheapest $0.10/min plan and I can not add a data package to that plan...so like I said...if you are in my same situation you'll never be able to do it because you can't add the data. :/

koohiisan said:
I can't post a link to it due to my post count, but if you Google for "How to use an AT&T GoPhone data plan with a 4G Android or iPhone" you'll find the post from marathon studios that I just read on this subject. According to that site, it looks like the GoPhone data APN is actually 3G, and is different from the 4G AT&T APN. So without using APNdroid to change to the proper settings your phone would be pointed by default to the wrong APN.
According to that article, however, you still need to have a GoPhone data package on your plan. I'm on the cheapest $0.10/min plan and I can not add a data package to that plan...so like I said...if you are in my same situation you'll never be able to do it because you can't add the data. :/
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LOL...I actually went and spoke to an AT&T customers when I had GoPhone. You CAN get MMS if you're on a phone that is 3G only. Any smartphone requires that you buy the data package to receive it.
Also, you'll have to forgo MMS or use a 3rd party Text Message like PINGER or such to receive MMS. However, if you're on a regular phone, you can only pay a few cents per kb download. this also apply to 3G with data package. I hope this help. Oh, and it doesn't work on iPhone 4/4s or any 4G phone.

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Here are the actual screen captures of my apn settings on AT&T gophne with my Galaxy Note 2 SGH-I317 that allows me to send picture messages, I also took a pic of my cut sim card to show that it works, i tried it without wifi and it still works. It even goes in an out of 4g in the proper areas.

Gone are the days of sim swapping???

This is more of a general ATT thread, but it does relate to my note 4.....
I have a one plus one, and my note 4 and from day to day I want the flexibilty to swap phones as I see fit. It used to be move the sim, and you're good. Lately, I've see issues when I moved my sim from phone to phone.
The first was last week, I bought an alpha clone off of craigslist and voice would work, but data would not. I dropped it back into my one plus one, and same thing, no data. Went to an ATT store, and they did an IMEI swap on my account and all was well in the world. Years ago, the IMEI swap on the carrier system kinda just followed the phones and wasnt ever an 'official' thing...but now it seems it is. Any ideas on this, can I swap my IMEI online with ATT?
Obviously I did a search on it, and it takes me to the ATT website, but it looks more along the lines of swapping when you've made an official order, not just because you want to. Am I missing something?

Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!

The Sims that are blue are lte Sims don't get the ones that are purple those are isis

Clienterror said:
Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!
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Is that what ATT is giving out by default now? I have a nano sim (that i got for that nexus clone) and it works fine in my OPO. If I put it in my note 4, I only get 4G, not LTE, which I thought was odd. I can do as suggested, just want to make sure I understand first...

All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices

thanitos said:
All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices
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ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.

Call customer care and give them the imei of a phone that supports lte and have them add that and just not change the sim

dboogie2288 said:
ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.
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The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.

zoso28 said:
The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.
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Interesting. When I went to another ATT store a few weeks ago to change to a nano sim, the rep changed some codes on my plan. I got this in an email:
DELETED MOBILESHAREVSL64VT
ADDED MOBILESHAREVP20
Last night I went to a different ATT store than usual, and found out they were just a partner (though you could never tell it) and he said there were a few wonky codes on my plan, one of which mentioned something about APNs...so maybe youre on to something. He was under the impression it was grandfathered though, so it was old. He could, of course be wrong.
He also tried his SIM (oh and I have a non-secure sim) in my one plus one from his moto x 2014 and it worked just fine. LTE and everything. He put my sim into his X, and got 4G only, no LTE.
So he swapped me back into a non-secure micro sim, just to try things out again, and I left the store with my one plus one working. I came home, dropped it into my Note 4, and got 4G only, no LTE. When I put it back into my OPO, I got a text message saying I needed a new sim to work with my phones new feature. Weird.

The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account

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The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account
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So that sounds like its our culprit.
If i have a secure sim for my note 4....can I move that to my OPO? I've heard no, but I've also heard yes...

I have been swapping my Sim card that I got with my Note 4 with my Note 3 Nokia 1520 and my Gear S. I have had data act up but only with the Note 4. Everything else has worked fine. In the Note 4 what I have done is add the older apn and toggle to that apn. Let it pickup the 4G lte icon or whatever it is. Got to phone app settings advanced settings and make sure you don't get an error. Then switch back to the Nextgen apn.
Worked for me.
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For Christmas I got an iPhone 5s for my daughter,to replace her iPhone 4s.Its been so long since I've used an iphone. Christmas morning she opened it.I told her just swap your Sim card,she came back down kinda upset and said it didnt fit.Now I felt bad,ATT isn't open nothing I could do.I remembered once I took a Sim that was too small and crazy glued it to a iPhone 3g Sim tray and it worked.So I googled cutting an iPhone 5s Sim card,and there's actually a template you can DL and trace where to cut.For some reason my printer didn't want to work so used a ruler and the dimensions that were on the site,it was micro Sim to nano sim. I got really sharp heavy duty scissors and cut it,sanded the sides and corner,even the non contact side because the nano is like a hair thinner,fit right in sim tray and worked perfect.I've offered to give her my S5,nope lol these kids and there Iphones.And that phones IMEI was on my plan that day,it was an ATT phone from someone who recently got a 6plus that I got it from.