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It seems that the Glide is only an AT&T-branded phone. Has anyone used one with GoPhone? Thought about picking up an unlocked one on eBay but I don't want to encounter the same "Invalid SIM card" issue I encounter when I put my GoPhone SIM card into my unlocked AT&T-sourced Skyrocket. Thanks for any info!
I can't say for certain, but I don't see why not. I use my phone with the T-Mobile monthly 4g plan and everything works fine. I do however, only have an EDGE/2g speed data wise due to the frequencies, but the phone was designed for AT&T so that wouldn't be a problem for you.
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I can't say for certain, but I don't see why not. I use my phone with the T-Mobile monthly 4g plan and everything works fine. I do however, only have an EDGE/2g speed data wise due to the frequencies, but the phone was designed for AT&T so that wouldn't be a problem for you.
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Appreciate the reply, narume. I think that the issue arises from this:
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Let me know if you ever get that working.
What i THINK is that any phone that comes out of AT&T's clutches are in their system (both imei and with carrier iq) so once it you pop a sim into it and the information is matched to a device in their system they know what can and can't be allowed for the device. With international devices they don't have those IMEIs (which is why they always want the imei from you so they can match it in their system)
Your note is international...they can't "match or track it" so to their system it's just another random dumb phone
Your skyrocket is a known LTE/HSPA+ device to the system so it says no cheap data for you
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So...assuming that this reasoning is correct, if AT&T knows that it's their phone they will have blocked its IMEI from being able to access data through GoPhone. And I would need 3G access in order to use it on my MicroCell. Anybody...?
Any at&t phones will work on go phone, and you can use a microcell as well, your phone still uses the 3/4G signal to connect for calls and texts. Also to get data to work for pictures, and mms you just need to call them and they will send you the apns, my nephew in law has an atrix 2 on a microcell with pic messaging working great. They also have a solstice 2 (dump phone) on the microcell, both go phones.
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If you're getting Invalid SIM, you may have a locked SIM card, something AT&T started doing with their prepaid a while back. New prepaid accounts have the SIM locked to the phone it was purchased with for ~3 months, after that I believe you have to either call or visit a store to have the lock removed.
Other than that, there's no reason it shouldn't work, but do remember that AT&T will see it as a smartphone. This means with their new prepaid plans, if you're using the 10 cents a minute plan you'll be unable to use data at all. If you're using one of the flat amounts per month, like the $25 or $50 plans, you'll need to purchase a data package (even though the $50 is SUPPOSED to include unlimited internet, smartphones aren't eligible).
I previously used a Motorola Flipside on AT&T's prepaid, before this change I was using the 10 cents a minute plan, with 1000 texts a month and buying a 500mb data package, then rolling over unused data each month with the 10mb package, and everything worked the same as if I was on postpaid - text, mms, internet, etc.
Thanks all! I'm 1½ months into my prepaid service. I'll check with AT&T after 3 months have passed and see if they can remove the SIM lock.
You might go ahead and call customer service anyway, who knows, you may get lucky. 3 months was what a rep told my friend a year or so ago, but that may have changed or may not have been the rule at all. Alternatively, you can go into a local store and purchase a new sim (or purchase one on ebay) and have them transfer your account over to it, just make sure they give you a regular sim and not a go-phone sim.
I just tested my captivate glide with the sim I was using in my flipside. It seems to read the sim just fine, though obviously I'm not still a prepaid customer so I can't make any real calls with it. I've also used it on a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G that was unlocked, briefly, when I was working on the flipside. Once you have the sim lock removed I expect you'll have no problems using it in any unlocked or AT&T locked phone.
If you use the 50 dollar plan and use the wap.cingular apn it will use data just set that up before you put in your sim, and do call they should unlock it for you, if not tell them you will be going to straight Talk at&t phones work locked on them since it's a part of at&t just ran by walmart.
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I have two Glides that I activated in June. NEITHER WAS SIM-LOCKED, ever.
Both are the newer 4G SIM, not the older one that says 3G on it. Got em from eBay for about $2.75 each. Both were activated online, about 3 weeks apart.
The first one, I activated with an IMEI of a Glide that broke and was able to use the SIM on a different Glide and other phones, even the Pantech Burst and got 4G. I activated it as 10c plan, then moved it to the $50 unlimited.
The second one was activated with 0000... generic IMEI with the 10c plan, and just like the first one, I was able to use the SIM on any GSM phone I have in the house (and that's quite a few).
APN: wap.cingular - only the name is needed, no userid, etc.
I am considering the note2 but I want to get the unlocked no commitment version. I have read n the past people will buy non carrier branded phones and the carrier will not recognize the phone so they default to the lowest data plan. Is that still the case? I currently have no data plan so I dont know what I want to do. Part of me is thinking of ditching AT&T and going to one of those prepaid services and using my old number via Google voice but to my understanding the texts get messed up.
Been using international Note N7000 for almost a year and should till tomorrow lol. I have my iPhone 4 SIM in it and the AT&T site shows the picture of a flip phone so they don't know what phone I'm using. I do have the iPhone data plan so maybe they don't care as I'm paying for a data plan.
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Yes ATT will recognize it. As long as you have a micro sim card. If not you can go to an ATT store and ask for one.
So check this out.... I am an AT&T user and back when the HTC HD2 came out for T-Mobile I bought it from a friend when they signed up for a new contract. Got an unlock code from Ebay and have been using it for the past 2 years without having to have a data plan, never got added automatically to my plan like i have heard happen to others? And I'm wondering why? Is it possibly cuz its a T-Mobile phone? Or is it cuz I still have an old "Cingular" SIM card? I am curious about this because right now, Wally World has a special sale on the phone at $249, plus a $100 gift card, which will bring the phone down to $150 basically, so a pretty damn good deal for a phone just out on the market. And I'm plan on getting it this week, I was wondering if any of you would be able to tell me if at some point if i was able to get a T-Mobile version of the Samsung Note 2 if i could slip my SIM card into it and then be able to cancel my DATA plan, if i told them i went back to a Motorola Razr or something, which worked when i got my HD2? Or will AT&T be able to see that i have a smartphone? Is it the newer smaller SIM card, that will tell AT&T that I have a smartphone, or will the phone it self be what sends info to the servers or whatever that tells AT&T I have a smartphone? Or do you think this method of getting a T-Mobile phone and using an AT&T SIM card will work and I won't get stuck with a DATA plan? Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi so I have no need for the Data plan it will be going to waste.
The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I think it is because you have a phone that is not sold by AT&T that they can't tell what it is, so you would probably be forced to get a data plan if you get the AT&T Note II. I would think that regardless of the sim card you have it would still report your phone model to the network, but I really don't know anything about that, so hopefully others can chime in.
I have been using an unlocked Xperia Pro on AT&T and they don't seem to have a clue what it is or even that it is a smartphone, so I could probably do whatever I want with the data plan.
If you got the international version of the Note perhaps you would not have to have a data plan.
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I'm wondering if it has something to do with the IMEI? If it isn't listed in there network or something? Maybe I will be alright? I don't know... But back when I got the Tmobile HD2 I went from a Motorola Razr to the HD2 just fine and wasn't automatically enrolled into a data plan, like some others people on at&t were that got the same phone. I don't know how I wasn't, but I'm happy I wasn't and was hoping to find out how to avoid it again. Everywhere I go has Wi-Fi, I don't need to throw away, $15 to $30 extra a month when I'm not even going to use the Data network very often. I have been going just fine with my HD2 with no data plan, just using Wi-Fi.
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The newer phones, including this one, use a micro-SIM.
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Right, I know I'll have to get a new SIM card and that is what kinda worries me, I don't know anything about the SIM cards. I was just curious if my older "Cingular" SIM card is what was helping keep me stay under the radar of them not knowing I have a smartphone, or if its because, the HD2 phone I have is from Tmobile and not in their system, so it can't recognize it? I went from a Razr to the HD2 and it still shows as a Razr in my account. An when I get the Note 2 phone, hopefully from Tmobile sometime, I was hoping I can still get away with not having to add a Data plan if i can find out how to avoid it...
Its all in the IMIE ... I was using a Galaxy Nexus overseas on a dumb phone plan because they didnt have the IMIE in system they couldnt tell it was a smartphone but they have cracked down on it now. Only phone that seem to be making it through the loop hole is overseas ones that are not very popular. If you switch to the AT&T version you will 100% be put on data plan if you choose a note 2 from say Rogers there is a slight chance you could sneak under the radar and not need it but for how long no one really knows.
I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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I've seen people come in with T-Mobile phones or international phones and they don't register as a smartphone with the IMEI. So no data is required with unlocked phones.
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Do you work at an AT&T store or something? Just curious, cuz it kinda sounds like it from the way you worded that reply. I've read on other threads that AT&T does checks or sweeps every now and then, that might detect a smartphone? Have you heard about that before, not sure what they meant by that?
I've seen many a thread on this but, none answer the question fully.
Here's the scenario: My brother uses a small AT&T android phone on the "Pay-As-You-Go" plan with AT&T. He just pays for texting and phone (no data plan). If he needs/wants internet, he uses WiFi.
If I bought him a Galaxy Note 2, could he just swap his SIM card into it and continue to use it as he does his current phone? (Calls, texts and no data)
Has anyone successfully done this?
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APN Settings... That is all.
There's a chance that att will recognize the phone and drop a data plan in his contract.
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Difference in SIM card possibly. Most older phones have regular SIM so you would need to get a mini/micro SIM for the Note 2. Possible issues there as you would have to go to AT&T for that.
As an ATT employee, I can tell you that the only real issue is going to be the SIM card. Since it is a micro sim card, which are (as far as I know) not supported on the go phone network, there may be an issue getting the SIM activated on ATTs system in the first place. But it is always worth a shot taking the question to a store and testing if a micro-SIM can be put on the phone.
There may not be an issue, but since most newer , non-go-phone SIM cards are LTE compatable, and since micro-SIMs are different beasts all together, you must keep in mind there is the possibility of failure. Which is why I suggest bringing the question to a store, seeing FIRST if a micro can be put on his line, and if that works, swap the phones out.
Sorry for the long-winded response, but I hope that answers some questins you didn't know you had
EDIT: Most ATTs also have what is known as a SIM cutter, so that might also be a possibility.
I wouldn't worry about them putting a data plan on the line, as the phone technology is too great, and therefore, actually incompatible with the 3g go-phone network.
You can just go into a retailer & buy a microsim to put on your account via the reps or calling customer care. & you could have hspa data if you got their $65 plan with 1GB. All you have to do is add the WAP apn in network settings, which you can find all over the web. Or get the $50 unlimited plan & buy data features as needed.
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Thanks for all of the helpful answers!
Going to try and hit the store this weekend and see what they have to say about it.
At&t Galaxy Note 2 SGH-I317 on gophone
okay i swapped out my front note for the note 2 sgh-i317, thought that my apn setting would be the same but there are not. Does anyone know the correct apn setting for picture messaging and data, for the AT&T Galaxy Note 2 SGH-I317 (gophone)?
My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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If you bought N4 full retail, then you only need to go through the phone replacement process at VZW website and follow the direction. You'll need the sim card from your old phone.
JOSHSKORN said:
My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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Don't worry, it's actually a pretty easy process. You won't lose your Unlimited since you didn't buy under contract. Here's the FAQ from VZW's website that walks you through the process. (you will have to type it in from the screenshot....apparently I haven't posted but one time in 4 years...lol) Good luck!
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If you bought N4 full retail, then you only need to go through the phone replacement process at VZW website and follow the direction. You'll need the sim card from your old phone.
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I'm on the website, now, just taking a look at it. I clicked on my line, I see two buttons:
-Manage My Device
-Upgrade My Device
Which is it? I'm thinking clicking on Upgrade My Device will do nothing, since I ordered a new phone already on that line. Help, please. Thanks. I'll need to do this on Wednesday when I do receive my phone.
Take SIM card from old phone and use it in new phone. If you have a micro sim just order a SIM card cutter to make it nano size. As long as it's a 4g SIM card it should activate the new phone fine. Also you could've went through bestbuy upgrade process they allow you to choose keep existing data plan but the key to keep unlimited data is to always use the old SIM card and immediately discard the SIM card that ships with the phone. Don't even power on the device until the sim is gone.
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Take SIM card from old phone and use it in new phone. If you have a micro sim just order a SIM card cutter to make it nano size. As long as it's a 4g SIM card it should activate the new phone fine. Also you could've went through bestbuy upgrade process they allow you to choose keep existing data plan but the key to keep unlimited data is to always use the old SIM card and immediately discard the SIM card that ships with the phone. Don't even power on the device until the sim is gone.
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So, when my Galaxy Note 4 arrives, remove its SIM card (if already inserted), remove the SIM card from my old phone, and then insert it into the Galaxy Note 4, and THEN power it on. Correct? After I do that, do I need to do anything more? If so, then what?
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So, when my Galaxy Note 4 arrives, remove its SIM card (if already inserted), remove the SIM card from my old phone, and then insert it into the Galaxy Note 4, and THEN power it on. Correct? After I do that, do I need to do anything more? If so, then what?
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You don't have to do nothing else unless the SIM card doesn't fit it needs to be cut with SIM card cutter google it SIM card cutter nano
Rootuser3.0 said:
You don't have to do nothing else unless the SIM card doesn't fit it needs to be cut with SIM card cutter google it SIM card cutter nano
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I think this is inaccurate, according to Samsung's site, it's a Micro SIM, so that should be the same size as my DROID RAZR MAXX's SIM card. I think I read somewhere that iPhones have NANO SIMs. Oh well, I'll find out tomorrow if it fits without modifying it.
Question: I'd ordered 3 different replacements for my MAXX while under warranty. To switch between them, all I did was did a backup and restore, and of course, used the same SIM card. Going to my new Galaxy Note 4, will the upgrade process pretty much be the same or do I have to click buttons on Verizon's site or call them or go into the store?
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I think this is inaccurate, according to Samsung's site, it's a Micro SIM, so that should be the same size as my DROID RAZR MAXX's SIM card. I think I read somewhere that iPhones have NANO SIMs. Oh well, I'll find out tomorrow if it fits without modifying it.
Question: I'd ordered 3 different replacements for my MAXX while under warranty. To switch between them, all I did was did a backup and restore, and of course, used the same SIM card. Going to my new Galaxy Note 4, will the upgrade process pretty much be the same or do I have to click buttons on Verizon's site or call them or go into the store?
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That would depend on what you want backed up. Try using the app Helium from the play store. I posted a link to the app in your other thread on this question.
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That would depend on what you want backed up. Try using the app Helium from the play store. I posted a link to the app in your other thread on this question.
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Actually this thread has little to do with "Backup & Restore". I purchased the Galaxy Note 4 at full price, as what the current deal is to maintain your unlimited data. That, is obviously step one. When the phone arrives, I know I'm suppose to transfer the SIM card. I did the same thing when I had to get a replacement DROID RAZR MAXX for my DROID RAZR MAXX, and my phone instantly worked. My question was simply, is that all I need to do, or are there steps, afterwards? Will VZW instantly recognize my change in phone by simply changing out the SIM cards from old phone to new phone or is it different since it involves two completely different models? Is/are there other step(s) involved?
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Actually this thread has little to do with "Backup & Restore". I purchased the Galaxy Note 4 at full price, as what the current deal is to maintain your unlimited data. That, is obviously step one. When the phone arrives, I know I'm suppose to transfer the SIM card. I did the same thing when I had to get a replacement DROID RAZR MAXX for my DROID RAZR MAXX, and my phone instantly worked. My question was simply, is that all I need to do, or are there steps, afterwards? Will VZW instantly recognize my change in phone by simply changing out the SIM cards from old phone to new phone or is it different since it involves two completely different models? Is/are there other step(s) involved?
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From everything I've read (because I had the same question) there would be no difference. You should just be able to put your old SIM card in the new phone, turn it on and it will do the rest. Granted, I have never done this myself so I am just going off of what I read. As for the statement that this thread has little to do with the Backup & Restore, I was only answering your question you posed in this thread. Unfortunately, I misunderstood the question. That's what I get for spending so much time reading these forums tonight. My mind cross references other posts that have nothing to do with what I'm reading.
Since you paid full price there really isn't any threat to losing your unlimited data even if you need to activate a new sim card because there will be no need to renew your contract. You can even call Verizon and have them help you activate the new phone just tell them you paid full price. I did this when my wife got a Moto X that was paid full price for.
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My Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 will probably arrive on Wednesday. I purchased it at full price, as I was told to do to maintain my unlimited data.
When I receive my new phone, how do I ensure that my unlimited data gets switched over to the new phone? What is the procedure at that point? Do I use the same SIM card from my DROID RAZR MAXX or do I use the new one? Can I switch my unlimited data plan from my DROID RAZR MAXX onto my new Galaxy Note 4 from the website? If so, what buttons do I click to ensure the process is done correctly? Or should I go into the Verizon Wireless Store for help or should I just call?
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Joshskorn, seems like people is going to confuse you. Here is the real deal and I have done this many times.
*** You only lose unlimited data if you UPGRADE your device. Activation is not impact your unlimited data.
So in your case, when you received your new no contract phone you have many options and they all SAFE to do:
1) First power off your OLD device, then take your compatible SIM from your old phone and put into the new one. Power on the new phone. It will automatic activate the new device and disable the old device. I found this method is NOT WORKING 100%, it's a hit and miss. If you see the message Activation failed, then try a few more times, if not working, just call VZW customer service and they will help you. You will need to provide them with your phone ID/ESN etc... piece of cake.
2) Use your new SIM (I would recommend this because it's brand new and all the contacts are new), call VZW customer service and activate it. You will need to provide ID and ESN from the label on the box and they will activate it for you..piece of cake.
If you have any more question, please don't hesitate to ask.
The process was even easier than I thought. I turned off my old phone, called the number enclosed with my new Galaxy Note 4, and read the agent the MEI and the ICCID number on the label of my new GN4. That number, was 1-877-807-4646. I asked the agent 3 times just to make sure that I still have my unlimited data, because I'd "heard" you're suppose to transfer the SIM card. He told me "No" and that I'm basically good to go.