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[Q] Another Question By A Noob!

Hey guys! I figured you guys can help me out with this question.
I'm considering rooting my phone but I don't really want any custom ROMs. I'm happy with my current theme. I can already tether.
All I really want to do is root and have a move to sd enabler (for those pesky apps that are really cool, kind of big and don't have the move to sd enabled) and freeze my bloatware.
Can I root my phone JUST to do this without changing ROMs?
Can I root my phone and still get updates on my current ROM?
Thanks for your time and your patience with this noob.

VENOMENON_24 said:
Can I root my phone JUST to do this without changing ROMs?
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Absolutely.
VENOMENON_24 said:
Can I root my phone and still get updates on my current ROM?
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This i do not know. I would assume not.

Root your phone and flash sprint lovers rom. Or any 2.2 sense rom still lets you update. Plus you get to remove bloatware and look into other kernels that could give you better speed/battery. Why root and not change roms?
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dirkyd3rk said:
Root your phone and flash sprint lovers rom. Or any 2.2 sense rom still lets you update. Plus you get to remove bloatware and look into other kernels that could give you better speed/battery. Why root and not change roms?
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Because I don't know a lot about phones. I don't really want to screw anything up such as my GPS, wifi, or 4G. I'm comfortable with sense and froyo and I like them. My friend has the same phone, rooted his, and I've played with it. It's cool, just not for me. I like the layout of sense.
Please tell me more about Sprint Lovers ROM.

Everything you want to know:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153

VENOMENON_24 said:
Because I don't know a lot about phones. I don't really want to screw anything up such as my GPS, wifi, or 4G. I'm comfortable with sense and froyo and I like them. My friend has the same phone, rooted his, and I've played with it. It's cool, just not for me. I like the layout of sense.
Please tell me more about Sprint Lovers ROM.
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We're all here to help you bud, no worries. The sprint lovers rom is pretty much just a stock rooted rom with the normal sprint goodies with nothing removed along with a few extra tweaks. The rom is great and sounds about what youre looking for. If you search around the development section you can find really easy methods to root your phone and the sprint lovers thread is also there. I would link it up for you but I'm on my phone not home yet. But ill edit this post and link it up for you check back in like 30 mins. Rooting is very easy now a days and so is flashing. As long as you read first you should be fine. The only people who screw things up are people who don't read or research. If you need anything just pm me ill help you. Good luck
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hey bro, yes you can root and keep the stock one, but remember IMPORTANT, dont accept sprint OTA updates they will unroot you, also you should consider titanium backup after you root it is usefull for freezing those sprint apps and keep them out of the way.
then try any app2sd of your choice, good luck
and if you ever decide to try roms, is not that hard and instructions aren't that hard my favorite sense rom is azrael xv4 very stable good battery life.

dirkyd3rk said:
We're all here to help you bud, no worries. The sprint lovers rom is pretty much just a stock rooted rom with the normal sprint goodies with nothing removed along with a few extra tweaks. The rom is great and sounds about what youre looking for. If you search around the development section you can find really easy methods to root your phone and the sprint lovers thread is also there. I would link it up for you but I'm on my phone not home yet. But ill edit this post and link it up for you check back in like 30 mins. Rooting is very easy now a days and so is flashing. As long as you read first you should be fine. The only people who screw things up are people who don't read or research. If you need anything just pm me ill help you. Good luck
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Thank you so much! I really appreciate you and everyone else here helping me. I know I can be a little frustrating as a noob because we don't know much. I really appreciate you of all.
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VENOMENON_24 said:
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you and everyone else here helping me. I know I can be a little frustrating as a noob because we don't know much. I really appreciate you of all.
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no prob, anytime man.

I just went through this earlier this week. Some of the rooting techniques require you to wipe your phone or flash a rom like sprint lovers, but if you just want root, I used unrevoked. quick and painless, took less than 15 minutes.

Unrevoked will do a lovely job for you, no confusing instructions or mess required. At that point, you can keep your phone on the stock ROM. Rooting does not change your ROM, it just turns the security off so that you have the freedom to do so.
There are many really nice ROMs out there and kernels that will provide better performance and substantially improved battery life.
It's at least worth the research, even if you stick with stock.

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Unrevoked will do a lovely job for you, no confusing instructions or mess required. At that point, you can keep your phone on the stock ROM. Rooting does not change your ROM, it just turns the security off so that you have the freedom to do so.
There are many really nice ROMs out there and kernels that will provide better performance and substantially improved battery life.
It's at least worth the research, even if you stick with stock.
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Will I be able to update my phone through sprint (new versions of android when it comes out officially) if I root this way? I appreciate all of you guys. I really do.
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VENOMENON_24 said:
Will I be able to update my phone through sprint (new versions of android when it comes out officially) if I root this way? I appreciate all of you guys. I really do.
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You will not be able to accept OTA updates from Sprint while rooted, at risk of losing root, perhaps permanently until someone finds another workaround to exploit.
Most people just wait until their favorite ROM developer releases the new Sprint base.

[Q]Help from people who know things ;) ROM question

A friend of mine has an EVO, I do not nor have I ever used an evo before. He wanted a custom ROM installed and asked me for help. I would greatly appreciate any help offered by the community.
1. What ROM is closest to stock(If gingerbread is out for it then a gingerbread build would be nice), just tweaked/debloated/deodexed/zip aligned etc.
2. How well is CM7 running on the EVO? I have a captivate and CM7 right now is pretty unstable this is going to be his main ROM and he isnt too technical.
3. What rom has a good/easy update flow. Maybe something with rom manager where he can just click update and all is well in the world.
Thank you SO much in advance.

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A friend of mine has an EVO, I do not nor have I ever used an evo before. He wanted a custom ROM installed and asked me for help. I would greatly appreciate any help offered by the community.
1. What ROM is closest to stock(If gingerbread is out for it then a gingerbread build would be nice), just tweaked/debloated/deodexed/zip aligned etc.
2. How well is CM7 running on the EVO? I have a captivate and CM7 right now is pretty unstable this is going to be his main ROM and he isnt too technical.
3. What rom has a good/easy update flow. Maybe something with rom manager where he can just click update and all is well in the world.
Thank you SO much in advance.
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There are plenty of stock roms and there is a couple gingerbread floating around somewhere i believe as well so your winning on that.
Cm7 i believe is very stable rom and many people enjoy it. Not me but people really enjoy cyanogens work.

Food for the thought process:
Root..in case you haven't done it already and still can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
In my opinion..best option for stock Rom to flash when rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120840
As far as the one click auto update option...you know what your getting yourself into right (as far as setting it up for your friend and then walking away)...lol.

dpilcher said:
Food for the thought process:
Root..in case you haven't done it already and still can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
In my opinion..best option for stock Rom to flash when rooted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120840
As far as the one click auto update option...you know what your getting yourself into right (as far as setting it up for your friend and then walking away)...lol.
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Lol yeah I'm sure he will end up calling me about it. Thanks for the links I'll check them out. If the ROM I put on there us stable enough then he won't have to update.
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Joey_UFC said:
There are plenty of stock roms and there is a couple gingerbread floating around somewhere i believe as well so your winning on that.
Cm7 i believe is very stable rom and many people enjoy it. Not me but people really enjoy cyanogens work.
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Thanks for the input. I was considering cm7 only because with rom manager its easy to update. I have to see if he wants sense.
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Emil9727 said:
Lol yeah I'm sure he will end up calling me about it. Thanks for the links I'll check them out. If the ROM I put on there us stable enough then he won't have to update.
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Flashing a Custom (even stock) Rom and then not wanting to update to the latest and greatest...ya....ok....NOT. Your friend will get a taste of what this is like and BOOM...hooked. The Rom I linked has a great OP in support. Enjoy the fun that you already know is gonna take hold of the phone your about to set free!
EDIT: Thought I'm sure this goes without saying, but will do anyway. Remind them......DO NOT...accept OTA updates even if they can...just sayin..lmao

CM7 or Death! I played with a lot of Sense roms for quite a while, but I determined they are nothing but bloat. CM7 is superfast, and I couldn't ask for much more in stability.
I'm Running Nightly 93 and May gapps.

dpilcher said:
Flashing a Custom (even stock) Rom and then not wanting to update to the latest and greatest...ya....ok....NOT. Your friend will get a taste of what this is like and BOOM...hooked. The Rom I linked has a great OP in support. Enjoy the fun that you already know is gonna take hold of the phone your about to set free!
EDIT: Thought I'm sure this goes without saying, but will do anyway. Remind them......DO NOT...accept OTA updates even if they can...just sayin..lmao
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Assuming he is willing to update himself I would if course tell him to do so.
Custom rom plus official ota equals me laughing at him lol. Funny and not funny at the same time lol.
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mintee said:
CM7 or Death! I played with a lot of Sense roms for quite a while, but I determined they are nothing but bloat. CM7 is superfast, and I couldn't ask for much more in stability.
I'm Running Nightly 93 and May gapps.
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I'm glad to hear its stable. If he is willing to give up sense and cm is stable then I might encourage him that way.
How is the battery life and do you have access to 4g speeds?
Also I have seen the new sense on the sensation... Man if its bloat its the sexiest bloat I have ever seen.
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Rooted phone now what?

Hello all today I finally rooted my phone and I flashed the blaze Rom. Any recommendations on what to download. Or any mods ?
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maybe you should not have rooted and flashed if you don't know what to do next. Just my opinion. Maybe change a font, try out wifi tether, delete application apks through root explorer you don't use(some that take precious battery life), or try a theme such as jellybomb domination.

Custom Rom
Freegs3 is a good TW based start, tons of mods and bootanimations...:laugh:

U could go and delete the efs folder. That's always fun to do once your rooted. Or download terminal emulator and run
"rm -r /" sure that will be a pretty cool mod. Then you could come here, (on a pc of course) and post a "HELP!! I cant turn my phone on!" thread.
Jesus I hate posts like this

joeyhdownsouth said:
maybe you should not have rooted and flashed if you don't know what to do next. Just my opinion. Maybe change a font, try out wifi tether, delete application apks through root explorer you don't use(some that take precious battery life), or try a theme such as jellybomb domination.
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I'm familiar with the basic things to add on my phone like WiFi tether and custom roms I just was getting some second opinions on things to do because I havent had and android phone is over a year and thought maybe things had changed since I last had a rooted phone
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He is asking for suggestions on how to better his experience after rooting. Once again, a couple people find a way to insult someone new to rooting. I wonder how far android development would of advanced around here on XDA if every new person trying to learn the benefits of rooting was flamed on for asking some simple, basic questions. Just some advice for next time friend. Use the search button on the forums. People tend to flame around here if you ask simple questions. Enjoy your rooted phone!

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He is asking for suggestions on how to better his experience after rooting. Once again, a couple people find a way to insult someone new to rooting. I wonder how far android development would of advanced around here on XDA if every new person trying to learn the benefits of rooting was flamed on for asking some simple, basic questions. Just some advice for next time friend. Use the search button on the forums. People tend to flame around here if you ask simple questions. Enjoy your rooted phone!
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Couldn't have said it better. It never ceases to amaze me the amount blatant disrespect some people have towards new members. We were all new at some point and time. Anyway, I just received my GS3 a week ago. By popular vote, I flashed Blazer 1.7. So far I'm loving it. It allows me to experience a custom Rom but still keeping the stock feel. If that's what your looking for then go with Blazer. Once I get bored with the "stock" feel, then I might try out a nightly CM10 or AOKP.
Enjoy your newly rooted device. Feel free to pm me if you have any questions.
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Thanks guys. It's rough at times when you ask someone for some guidance then get scolded for a asking a question
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nickhowell25 said:
Hello all today I finally rooted my phone and I flashed the blaze Rom. Any recommendations on what to download. Or any mods ?
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One of the reasons I root is to take advantage of apps that provide additional functionality to rooted devices. I especially wanted Cerberus, and Tasker. I also use ROM Toolbox Pro. You can read up on these apps in the PlayStore or just Google them. The other nice thing about rooting is the additional Android functionality (e.g. I have the GoogleNow hack installed so that I can use GoogleNow. I would recommend that you try these.

nickhowell25 said:
I'm familiar with the basic things to add on my phone like WiFi tether and custom roms I just was getting some second opinions on things to do because I havent had and android phone is over a year and thought maybe things had changed since I last had a rooted phone
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Sorry if you felt i flamed you.
this message brought to you by my GalaxyS3 running Phantom's Blazer

Neil Fruit said:
One of the reasons I root is to take advantage of apps that provide additional functionality to rooted devices. I especially wanted Cerberus, and Tasker. I also use ROM Toolbox Pro. You can read up on these apps in the PlayStore or just Google them. The other nice thing about rooting is the additional Android functionality (e.g. I have the GoogleNow hack installed so that I can use GoogleNow. I would recommend that you try these.
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Ok thanks for tip
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[ROM]>>>INFINITY<<<(v1.1)-JB 4.1.1[UVLDJA]Dec 12, 2012

I'd like to introduce my first published ROM to the community.
-What is Infinity about?
The purpose of this ROM is for those who don't care much about dealing with bugs and waiting for updates or tweaks to get a daily driver. My project is to keep this as stock as possible because I believe that the touchwiz features are awesome. I'd like to keep the mods to a minimum to maintain functionality and keep the ROM as bug free as possible. Infinity fits perfectly as the name of this ROM as it allows YOU, the user, to make infinite choices to how you want your phone to feel and act like. While I am the chef, I feel its your resposibility to chose the themes and mods ypud like to add as you see fit.
- who this ROM is not for?
This ROM is not for those who are here to flame others or rudely criticize my work. While I accept suggestions and constructive criticism , I will not allow rudeness. Please feel free to post questions or concerns here as I may not ever get to my PMs. Enjoy.

Download instructions:
*download to SD
*backup ROM
*flash in recovery using favorite recovery method
If coming from another ROM I'd recommend wiping data . If coming from stock id still recommend wiping data but your willing to try and dirty flash.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for the sudden death of your phone if you flash this wrong or flash mods not compatible with this.
Download here:
Infinity version 1.1(12/9/12)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/infinityv1/files/Infinity_v1.1.zip/download
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Changelog:
V1:
**Based of Samsung official jb firmware
**Rooted
**Zipaligned
**Deodexed
**Ciq removed-- let me know if you find more
**Stock kernel- custom kernels should be compatible
**Debloated
More....
V1.1
**Added advanced power menu --special thanks to mikhail_08 for the great help.
**Cleaned up additional bloat
**Init.d support added
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Screenshots:
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Mods:
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never mind.. i read the OP again
but i would still love to see some screen shots even though it's stock touchwiz themed

Nice new toys!!!
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Will flash tonight! As long as you are working towards including AOSP lockscreen, contacts, and messenger, I will stick with you the whole way. As far as the power mods, can you include screenshot? I know you can hold power and home, its just easier if its in the power menu.

Running very fast and smooth so far. Did you take out the calendar widget? The app for it is there but no widget.

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback so far. Uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident. I will work on it tonight. Still at work. For now. You can push the calendar widget apk into system settings. Screenshot in power menu should be next then I assume. hopefully I get some time tonight if the wife does the come a call in'. I'll get some screenies also. I'd also recommend using faux stock kernel in the other thread for a boost. Been reading some good things about his mainline edition.
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Speaking of widgets. Are there any others from stock that you guys prefer to have back. I took out some of the bloat ones to free up some space. I did also remove a few live wallpapers since I don't personally use them.
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xallinvaynex said:
Will flash tonight! As long as you are working towards including AOSP lockscreen, contacts, and messenger, I will stick with you the whole way. As far as the power mods, can you include screenshot? I know you can hold power and home, its just easier if its in the power menu.
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I have always envied team kang and their stock build since it includes lock screen options. I may have to call upon them and see if they'll assist me in my pursuit of aosp options. Ive youve ever used the sgs2 and the Juggernaut ROM you'd know how awesome the ROM control option was.
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monkeypaws said:
I have always envied team kang and their stock build since it includes lock screen options. I may have to call upon them and see if they'll assist me in my pursuit of aosp options. Ive youve ever used the sgs2 and the Juggernaut ROM you'd know how awesome the ROM control option was.
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Best rom from back in the day
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There's so much to say but trying to be respectful at the same time. Grrrrrrr. Do you really know what you're doing, or do you only understand the basics and know how to make a flashable zip rom? I'm being serious and not trying to be a ****... its just it seems like a.... pointless thread/rom... as of now. Of course when it can be a AOSP/TW ROM that's awesome, but now???!!! Just seems not very important. Again not trying to be a jerk, just speaking my mind.
You saying "uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident" makes me want to not flash the ROM, I understand trial and error but, that should be done before publicizing your work. I'm an A-Hole and this and that so be it, criticism sucks.
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mt3g said:
There's so much to say but trying to be respectful at the same time. Grrrrrrr. Do you really know what you're doing, or do you only understand the basics and know how to make a flashable zip rom? I'm being serious and not trying to be a ****... its just it seems like a.... pointless thread/rom... as of now. Of course when it can be a AOSP/TW ROM that's awesome, but now???!!! Just seems not very important. Again not trying to be a jerk, just speaking my mind.
You saying "uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident" makes me want to not flash the ROM, I understand trial and error but, that should be done before publicizing your work. I'm an A-Hole and this and that so be it, criticism sucks.
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No I understand where you're coming from. My haste to get this out there superceeded my common sense. Also my poor word choice also can be a fault in people not wanting to try this. I am not completely new at this. Although I am not alone in creating a ROM using the kitchen. That is the difference between "original" android development in this forum and "android development". A few ROMs I've seen in this section were probably made using the kitchen ad out does the basic for you. The rest is actually knowing Smali and baksmali, compiling and dwcompiling of XML files and such. That isy weakness as I have to search countless forums and guides to find out how to do it in my own. Everyone started somewhere. As much as I want to pull this ROM now I feel I should be more careful in what I say and how I add mods and test them. I know nowadays people seek the ROMs that are "flashy" and have tons of features but it comes at a price. I am not just building for people but foe fun and foe myself. I do run my roms and therefore don't want to brick my own device. I appreciate the criticism as you are probably saying what others don't. Its all part of the learning process. On the other hand, there are plenty of awesome ROMs to choose from.
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No I understand where you're coming from. My haste to get this out there superceeded my common sense. Also my poor word choice also can be a fault in people not wanting to try this. I am not completely new at this. Although I am not alone in creating a ROM using the kitchen. That is the difference between "original" android development in this forum and "android development". A few ROMs I've seen in this section were probably made using the kitchen ad out does the basic for you. The rest is actually knowing Smali and baksmali, compiling and dwcompiling of XML files and such. That isy weakness as I have to search countless forums and guides to find out how to do it in my own. Everyone started somewhere. As much as I want to pull this ROM now I feel I should be more careful in what I say and how I add mods and test them. I know nowadays people seek the ROMs that are "flashy" and have tons of features but it comes at a price. I am not just building for people but foe fun and foe myself. I do run my roms and therefore don't want to brick my own device. I appreciate the criticism as you are probably saying what others don't. Its all part of the learning process. On the other hand, there are plenty of awesome ROMs to choose from.
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and you sir have earned my utmost respect, as you called me out exactly how I felt adn few others that have have PM'd me. I'm looking greatly forward to your JB TW/ AOSP rom and so are others. I'm extremely happy the way you took it all sir. and I will gladly test/ tell others how your rom feels. In a an honest matter obviously, but only as you start implementing heavily the CM/AOSP features.

mt3g said:
and you sir have earned my utmost respect, as you called me out exactly how I felt adn few others that have have PM'd me. I'm looking greatly forward to your JB TW/ AOSP rom and so are others. I'm extremely happy the way you took it all sir. and I will gladly test/ tell others how your rom feels. In a an honest matter obviously, but only as you start implementing heavily the CM/AOSP features.
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Thanks man. The journey will be long and difficult. Again I appreciate everyone's patience. I have some time tonight to mess around with some code. I believe I have the power menu figured out. And I wanted to ask. Do you guys prefer lidroid toggles which are customizable or something else. I preferably like the stock ones but something customizable could be added as a zip instead of a default. That is why I'd like to really dig into aroma which would allow maximum user customization but its gonna take more than one night of studying the tutorial and testing. I'll add back the calendar and hopefully have advanced power menu up. No eta yet.
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crt-on or crt-off would be nice!

Smooth rom bro! Glad to have another developer in the s3 forums. Request: black status bar and I hope the rom will keep a stock look
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I believe options in aroma would be the way to go. I personally would like the 15 toggle mod built in. I totally understand that you are learning as you go, i am just thankful to have someone working on this. After you put the calendar back in (lol) and add the basic power mods and such, i would be cool with you adding AOSP features one at a time. That would also help with testing.

Sense 5 icons on the viperinc2

What you think?
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I see nothinnnng

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looks good, i miss your skills on here...
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Cool. Care to do a fix for not being able to install of cm10 after trying viper? Sadly the author of viper hasn't seen fit to do a fix for his epic fail. Haha. If not no worries. Icons are pretty!
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msolaw said:
Cool. Care to do a fix for not being able to install of cm10 after trying viper? Sadly the author of viper hasn't seen fit to do a fix for his epic fail. Haha. If not no worries. Icons are pretty!
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First, its not his epic fail... no one knows why it does it. Also, try anti-venom script. Worked for me. Also, please keep in mind, these guys do all this for free in their spare time... don't talk crap about them for something such as this. You kinda need to know why it does it before you can fix it.
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Seems standard one would test to see if other roms could be flashed after the fact. That would seem a normal behavior of anyone who flashes roms. Wasn't insulting the guy personally, just his rom for screwing up half the boards phones. Lol. Also I think that script requires a pay app or something for flashing. Cwm doesn't work does it? Or did that change?
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I'm facepalming so hard right now

I would also add that viper was beta tested for literally months before it was released. No genius tried flashing cm10 somewhere in there? Maybe the author didn't fail I don't know. Either that or the entire beta process is fail. Flashing other roms seems awfully basic. Just thought I'd add that to my last comment though. Again not insulting any dev personally. Just the rom. Months of beta testing to release a rom that screws up your phone is hard to describe in any way other than fail.
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I'm facepalming so hard right now
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Informative stuff.
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msolaw said:
Seems standard one would test to see if other roms could be flashed after the fact. That would seem a normal behavior of anyone who flashes roms. Wasn't insulting the guy personally, just his rom for screwing up half the boards phones. Lol. Also I think that script requires a pay app or something for flashing. Cwm doesn't work does it? Or did that change?
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msolaw said:
I would also add that viper was beta tested for literally months before it was released. No genius tried flashing cm10 somewhere in there? Maybe the author didn't fail I don't know. Either that or the entire beta process is fail. Flashing other roms seems awfully basic. Just thought I'd add that to my last comment though. Again not insulting any dev personally. Just the rom. Months of beta testing to release a rom that screws up your phone is hard to describe in any way other than fail.
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Actually, the script is something you flash in any recovery. Its rather simple. Also, I'd challenge you on whether its basic to test that as most of the people who were on the testing team weren't exactly worried about flashing other ROMs after viper... myself included. Whether you're insulting any person or not, you're still calling someone's work (something that shouldn't even be able to work on this phone no less) garbage is rather insulting no matter if you meant it as such or not. Also, check this: the ROM hasn't screwed up anyone's phone, and last I checked there's a disclaimer that says flash at your own risk. I was a beta tester and I'll have you know its one of the best testing groups I've been a part of and everything was covered. Absolutely none of the testing team encountered any issues that weren't soon fixed after. Any and all issues found through testing were eradicated. Only so much can be tested, however, and every device is different. In testing we encountered no problems whatsoever, and the fact that you would make statements such as this is appalling. Also keep in mind cm10 is currently running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel, also something that shouldn't technically work. I'm also typing this now from PACman which is part cm10 and not getting any hiccups. If you wish to continue this discussion, feel free to pm me and I'll even show you in detail the steps taken to get it all off the ground, but please do not reply here further cluttering the thread.
Also, in case you were wondering, if cwm doesn't work for flashing the script, you can always get the free version of the 4ext recovery app from 4ext.net…
Sorry dk for messing up your thread. Icons look sick bud.
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tylerlawhon said:
Actually, the script is something you flash in any recovery. Its rather simple. Also, I'd challenge you on whether its basic to test that as most of the people who were on the testing team weren't exactly worried about flashing other ROMs after viper... myself included. Whether you're insulting any person or not, you're still calling someone's work (something that shouldn't even be able to work on this phone no less) garbage is rather insulting no matter if you meant it as such or not. Also, check this: the ROM hasn't screwed up anyone's phone, and last I checked there's a disclaimer that says flash at your own risk. I was a beta tester and I'll have you know its one of the best testing groups I've been a part of and everything was covered. Absolutely none of the testing team encountered any issues that weren't soon fixed after. Any and all issues found through testing were eradicated. Only so much can be tested, however, and every device is different. In testing we encountered no problems whatsoever, and the fact that you would make statements such as this is appalling. Also keep in mind cm10 is currently running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel, also something that shouldn't technically work. I'm also typing this now from PACman which is part cm10 and not getting any hiccups. If you wish to continue this discussion, feel free to pm me and I'll even show you in detail the steps taken to get it all off the ground, but please do not reply here further cluttering the thread.
Also, in case you were wondering, if cwm doesn't work for flashing the script, you can always get the free version of the 4ext recovery app from 4ext.net…
Sorry dk for messing up your thread. Icons look sick bud.
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Not a problem. Thanks for the info. I didn't even intend to talk about any of that at length. I think you went on about it more than I. Lol. I simply repeat it was tested for months to release a rom that messed your phone up so bad you couldn't install cm10. Seems a big oversight. I know all roms have disclaimers. Doesn't mean where one fails a failure can't be pointed out anyways. That's all I've done. Thanks for the info tho. I actually asked about it in the script thread and never heard anything definitive or the issue really discussed. I'm a simple user. Just do all flashing through cwm. Sorry this thread got off track. Didn't need to be highjacked like this. Agree. Sweet icons. Always fun to change them up!
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I could install cm10 after viper...

And so can I technically. It's just my phone doesn't work. Same with many others.
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I never make posts like this. This is usually nitsua or jizzy lately (haha).
I don't like you. From all the things I can gather about you through your posts, you are ignorant and ungrateful. I hate so much the things you've chosen to be. If you want something stable, don't root your phone. Nitsuj17, the "author" of Viper, has released quite a few ROMs for this phone despite moving on to greener pastures. He and the various devs including aeroevan, chillybean, CondemnedSoul, khamsakamal, and others I might be missing have given us ICS and even JB, which is more than we can ask of them for free and more than we've seen from HTC.
Have I encountered lag on ICS/JB ROMs? Yes. Does it suck, yeah. But that's part of the game when you root your phone sometimes. All of our latest ROMs are using a kernel that's too old because newer source isn't available due to being left out to dry by HTC. Be happy you get to even see 4.0+ at this point. Have some respect please, and maybe you'll have ours someday.
Good day, sir.
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msolaw said:
Seems standard one would test to see if other roms could be flashed after the fact. That would seem a normal behavior of anyone who flashes roms. Wasn't insulting the guy personally, just his rom for screwing up half the boards phones. Lol. Also I think that script requires a pay app or something for flashing. Cwm doesn't work does it? Or did that change?
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msolaw said:
I would also add that viper was beta tested for literally months before it was released. No genius tried flashing cm10 somewhere in there? Maybe the author didn't fail I don't know. Either that or the entire beta process is fail. Flashing other roms seems awfully basic. Just thought I'd add that to my last comment though. Again not insulting any dev personally. Just the rom. Months of beta testing to release a rom that screws up your phone is hard to describe in any way other than fail.
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msolaw said:
And so can I technically. It's just my phone doesn't work. Same with many others.
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you are a complete jackass......viper rom was tested for months, and part of testing isnt "can xyz rom work after using this rom", it was verifying the rom itself worked for the end user....the aosp install scripts dont wipe / format all partitions that viper does, so not everything was getting wiped properly for those trying to go cm9/10....someone else made a script to wipe between viper and cm9, so great
you have never contributed anything ot this community except to piss me off and make yourself look like a jerk, congrats...its people like you that make devs want to walk away and say make your own ****ing roms :good:

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you are a complete jackass......viper rom was tested for months, and part of testing isnt "can xyz rom work after using this rom", it was verifying the rom itself worked for the end user....the aosp install scripts dont wipe / format all partitions that viper does, so not everything was getting wiped properly for those trying to go cm9/10....someone else made a script to wipe between viper and cm9, so great
you have never contributed anything ot this community except to piss me off and make yourself look like a jerk, congrats...its people like you that make devs want to walk away and say make your own ****ing roms :good:
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Agreed! Learn to flash a rom before splattering threads with bs! I had no problems flashing aosp roms, cm or anything else after viper!
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...and back on topic for those who follow directions and appreciate the work these people do for us.
DK, I have an idea for a theme for viper, but lack the experience. I tried for a little while but I really have no time. If you or anybody is interested, pm me.
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msolaw said:
Cool. Care to do a fix for not being able to install of cm10 after trying viper? Sadly the author of viper hasn't seen fit to do a fix for his epic fail. Haha. If not no worries. Icons are pretty!
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the only epic fail is when you post.
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msolaw said:
And so can I technically. It's just my phone doesn't work. Same with many others.
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I've only been in this thread for 2 minutes and already I can tell you are a complete worthless contribution to this community and the Android system all together. It is people like you who make the iPhone people actually have a point. You are everything that Android should not be, do us all a favor and just shut your mouth or go get an iPhone because clearly you don't deserve the benefits of Android. You do nothing for this community, and just run your mouth like you know what you are talking about, offending contributors that spend hours upon hours of their free time to do this. If you are too dumb to figure out how to flash from one ROM to the next that is not the developers fault, it is user error, and not just user error you come here and bash people because of your stupidity. It's people like you that make the real contributors not even want to publicly release their work. Go away, grow up, get a life, and get off mommy and daddys verizon plan, we don't want you here.

Really like how these icons look. And **** the haterz.
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firespitta said:
Really like how these icons look. And **** the haterz.
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Nobody's hating