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Fellow Movie Lovers and Galaxy Note fans
Mugen announced a desktop cradle with HDMI output for "LET'S WATCH A MOVIE! ON TELLY" situation. I think it is a smart accessory for this phone, since Galaxy Note is a movie friendly device in general.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...9220-usb-desktop-cradle-with-hdmi-output.html
Comments? Expectations?
Release date is April 20, 2012
Will only be impressed if the screen turns off while it displays movie. Otherwise will stick to my cheap mhl adapter.
I would like to see an audio out on the device for older TV's/monitors that have DVI only. I don't want an audio cable sticking out the top.
fosselman said:
Will only be impressed if the screen turns off while it displays movie. Otherwise will stick to my cheap mhl adapter.
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are you serious? how can you control the movie when display is off? like swiping on the navigation or the movie itself to go back and forth. the cradle also charges the phone so having the screen stay on will not hurt.
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Now why did they make it portrait? While the Note is sitting in the dock playing a movie, the movie on the Note will be sideways.
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Now why did they make it portrait? While the Note is sitting in the dock playing a movie, the movie on the Note will be sideways.
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It is designed to be used either way, portrait or landscape - it sits very neatly on its side- perfect for landscape viewing as I do all the time.
It is a good dock given the limitations of the micro-usb connector. Given that, you have to put it in in portrait mode anyway, then turn it sideways.
I just have to wonder why they did not add pins so it can dock properly in landscape orientation. I am hoping somebody will come up with a back, or back plus battery combo that includes pins and a decent desk and car dock.
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are you serious? how can you control the movie when display is off? like swiping on the navigation or the movie itself to go back and forth. the cradle also charges the phone so having the screen stay on will not hurt.
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Yes I am serious. On my elocity tablet I use a widget called tegra display selector and guess what, it allows you to still use the screen. People also have things called Bluetooth keyboards and mice to control the screen while it is plugged in. I also hate having the glow from the screen of the note if I am trying to watch a movie in a dark room.
So did anyone get one of these? Does TV out work?
I have this good cable.
If you are interested in this product, you should visit:
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28840665&postcount=27
And here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841416
For a much cheaper alternative!
I need to find a way to output video to AV input so i can connect my note 2, to my stereo in my car any clue how i can do this?
Just use a Left Right channel to 3.5mm wire...
EDIT: Oh... For video I think we only support HDMI but there might be a dongle you could buy..
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You'll need to output hdmi via mhl, then use a hdmi > AV adapter to connect to the radio.
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What Evil said ^^^^
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Thanks for the help all the hdmi > AV adapters i cant find have to be powered anyone know of any that dont need power or i can power from a usb maybe? thanks.
vwgti18 said:
Thanks for the help all the hdmi > AV adapters i cant find have to be powered anyone know of any that dont need power or i can power from a usb maybe? thanks.
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Best thing to do is buy an AC> DC power inverter for your vehicle. I use one to charge my note 2. They turn the 12v cigg lighter into a 120v wall outlet.
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This is one thing that sucks on newer devices. I remember on my HTC Touch Pro and TP2 you could just plug into your deck using the rca inputs. It was nice to be able to play stuff off your phone directly to the monitor.
Plus because I kept the cables in my car, it was easy to take in a house and plug in and play videos and pictures. I did this all the time for my Grams, to show her my little ones. She was never into newer HD tv's lol. Oh well, I'm sure HDMI connections will be really available on decks before you know it.
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KB112 said:
This is one thing that sucks on newer devices. I remember on my HTC Touch Pro and TP2 you could just plug into your deck using the rca inputs. It was nice to be able to play stuff off your phone directly to the monitor.
Plus because I kept the cables in my car, it was easy to take in a house and plug in and play videos and pictures. I did this all the time for my Grams, to show her my little ones. She was never into newer HD tv's lol. Oh well, I'm sure HDMI connections will be really available on decks before you know it.
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A lot of the new decks already have hdmi pigtails in the back or hdmi ports in the front.
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A lot of the new decks already have hdmi pigtails in the back or hdmi ports in the front.
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Yeah I have seen some, but I mean it's not quite mainstream yet. At least not enough for me to switch out decks! Lol
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vwgti18 said:
I need to find a way to output video to AV input so i can connect my note 2, to my stereo in my car any clue how i can do this?
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You can find plenty of HDMI to RCA adapters on the internet. The problem is that HDMI is a digital signal, and RCA is analog. And from your picture, your device is looking for an analog signal. Hence, you need to get something to convert the HDMI signal into an Analog one. They exist, but are not cheap. The cheap ones, not used, are $200. Require a power source. And we haven't even touched is the phone's video output going to be accepted by the stereo's video input. If the video output doesn't match--resolution and refresh rate--you're not going to have a picture. On PCs, you can these settings in the video control center or use special applications. For Android, I don't think they exists because the TVs with HDMI are new enough that a designed to accept the video phones are putting out; the phone are also designed to output video HDTV will accept.
Never mind you'll still need some kind of car charger to power the HML adapter. In my experience, using your phone and HML, will drain your battery, although slower because it doesn't need all the 2.0mha the charger puts out, but doesn't give the phone enough power to maintain it's current charge status.
The other issue, it's hard to find converters for HDMI to composite RCA. Not many people are in demand for them since a lot of the old TVs that only had those inputs are gone. They exists though.
That all said, my question would be exactly what applicaitons or tasks are you trying to don on your GN2 though your car deck? If it's just play music or audio into it, If so, then just get a 3.5mm to RCA cable. They can be purchased for a couple dollars. Here's a link for Monoprice.com: http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218. Just make sure you get a male to male version. There are options as well, depending your car deck. If it has a casette deck, you can get 3.5mm caasette adapter. If you want more robust, you can get a 3.5mm FM car cigarette transmitter such as Coby CA 745; the problem is you need to have a clear FM station, which can change depending on your geographical location. I like that model because you can change FM to be used, and has cigarette charge port. The benefit, you're not dependent on the car having any kind of audio output ports, or cassette player.
If you're wanting to play video, ie use the mirroring function of the phone, I'm thinking you be much better served with a newer car deck that can support HDMI video in. Heck, depending on the screensize of you deck, it may be better just to get a car dock for the GN2 and just send the audio through your car stereo. Another alternative, use the Wifi hotspot function of the GN2 and use a tablet. I'm not saying I've ever used the GN2 to use Google Navigation and my 10" tablet to have NHL Center Ice going while driving to a meeting an hour away, but you can see how it can be done:
I've seen some pretty creative mounting methods use with the Nexus 7.
Hopefully this was helpful
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You can find plenty of HDMI to RCA adapters on the internet. The problem is that HDMI is a digital signal, and RCA is analog. And from your picture, your device is looking for an analog signal. Hence, you need to get something to convert the HDMI signal into an Analog one. They exist, but are not cheap. The cheap ones, not used, are $200. Require a power source. And we haven't even touched is the phone's video output going to be accepted by the stereo's video input. If the video output doesn't match--resolution and refresh rate--you're not going to have a picture. On PCs, you can these settings in the video control center or use special applications. For Android, I don't think they exists because the TVs with HDMI are new enough that a designed to accept the video phones are putting out; the phone are also designed to output video HDTV will accept.
Never mind you'll still need some kind of car charger to power the HML adapter. In my experience, using your phone and HML, will drain your battery, although slower because it doesn't need all the 2.0mha the charger puts out, but doesn't give the phone enough power to maintain it's current charge status.
The other issue, it's hard to find converters for HDMI to composite RCA. Not many people are in demand for them since a lot of the old TVs that only had those inputs are gone. They exists though.
That all said, my question would be exactly what applicaitons or tasks are you trying to don on your GN2 though your car deck? If it's just play music or audio into it, If so, then just get a 3.5mm to RCA cable. They can be purchased for a couple dollars. Here's a link for Monoprice.com: http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10218. Just make sure you get a male to male version. There are options as well, depending your car deck. If it has a casette deck, you can get 3.5mm caasette adapter. If you want more robust, you can get a 3.5mm FM car cigarette transmitter such as Coby CA 745; the problem is you need to have a clear FM station, which can change depending on your geographical location. I like that model because you can change FM to be used, and has cigarette charge port. The benefit, you're not dependent on the car having any kind of audio output ports, or cassette player.
If you're wanting to play video, ie use the mirroring function of the phone, I'm thinking you be much better served with a newer car deck that can support HDMI video in. Heck, depending on the screensize of you deck, it may be better just to get a car dock for the GN2 and just send the audio through your car stereo. Another alternative, use the Wifi hotspot function of the GN2 and use a tablet. I'm not saying I've ever used the GN2 to use Google Navigation and my 10" tablet to have NHL Center Ice going while driving to a meeting an hour away, but you can see how it can be done:
I've seen some pretty creative mounting methods use with the Nexus 7.
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Yea thanks for your input. I was just about to order this http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...l?ie=UTF8&colid=&coliid=&me=&qid=&seller=&sr=
and this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A9H30LU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and see if i can get it to work but after u said all that idk if i really want to risk spending the $50 what do u think?
As for buying a new deck thats out of the question i just got the new late 2012 model JVC.
I already do music. I wanted video so i can play movies and play youtube but mostly wanted my google maps to show on the big screen so i could just tuck my phone away.
The HML cable is a decent price. You may it to be useful for showing off pictures or videos at home or at friends' on the TV rather than the phone. I see the cable still being useful if what your propose doesn't work out.
I can't so for certain if it's going work. It looks promising. I like the Eleckcity has 60 positive reviews (4 or 5 stars) out of 78. Fifty dollars isn't a bad cost. I would just check the return the policy. I would write Eleckcity and ask about returns if they product doesn't work or as expected. Also, there is a review who used it in a similar manner that you're trying to do. I would definity write that person to find out more details on the headunit and so forth.
The only thing I would be weary about is powering the Eleckcity. Since it doesn't have it's own powersouce, it's going to draw it's power from the USB. I don't know for certain, but I don't believe the USB power on the GN2 sends out power. If it does, I don't think it's much. It's only used the OTG USB cable with items that had their power. And the MHL has as power supply. If it doesn't power it, I think a simple USB powerhub could do the trick. I'm sure there is probably some kind of cigarette car adapter usb hub that could found or the like.
I understand the goal. I don't know how much effect and cost is worth it for you to how often you would use the maps and video features on your deck's screen. In looking at some of the JVC multimedia head units, screen size isn't very larger since they range 6.1" to 7". So I put eh screen size as negligible factor, by my standards. Obviously, use the headunit's screen would be more elegant look, espically compared to having three windowshield/dashboard car docks, a 150W USB cigarette car power inverter, and cables hanging in from of the dash; one is the for the satellite radio. Then again, I only need that stuff about once every six months. So, maybe a simple dock such as iOttie or Clingo may work well with a car charger for phone if you only plan to use it say, once a month or less. T
The last paragraph is just proposed plan B and C, and so forth.
I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the smart dock with the Note 8.0
Note II is really similar, so I would hope that the Note 8.0 will work
The Samsung site says Note II and Galaxy IV so now I'm a little iffy.
The MHL and OTG adapters are pretty universal, but I can only use one at a time
2 usb ports plus the HDMI would be great for me at the office since I can plug in the tab and have it running on my 2nd monitor (along with KB and mouse)
Has anyone tried yet?
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I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the smart dock with the Note 8.0
Note II is really similar, so I would hope that the Note 8.0 will work
The Samsung site says Note II and Galaxy IV so now I'm a little iffy.
The MHL and OTG adapters are pretty universal, but I can only use one at a time
2 usb ports plus the HDMI would be great for me at the office since I can plug in the tab and have it running on my 2nd monitor (along with KB and mouse)
Has anyone tried yet?
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It works great. I tried it with mine, and I have seen reports of other users using theirs.
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It works great. I tried it with mine, and I have seen reports of other users using theirs.
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Are you able to put the Note 8.0 into landscape when using the Smart Dock? Also, is the device stable enough to be written upon with S-pen while docked?
BTW, is there any other way to get USB- OTG and HDMI functionality simultaneously? (sans the Smart Dock)
I have the Smart Dock for my Note II and it works well. I haven't received my Int'l 3G Note 8.0 yet to test it, but it's good to hear that others have it working.
Since the Smart Dock holds both devices in Portrait orientation, it will not automatically put the display in Landscape mode unless you are playing a video. You would have to use a 3rd party app such as "Orientation Control".
I doubt you could write on the Note 8.0's screen successfully while in the dock. The dock is roughly 3" square and is not heavy enough to stabilize the tab for anything but very light screen taps or swipes. The device is not secured in the dock other than the by microUSB connector. The device just rests in the dock under its own weight, vertically.
The Smart Dock is not made to hold the device physically in a Landscape orientation. I'm not sure if a microUSB-to-microUSB extension cable would work to retain the functions and allow a separate landscape "holder" or case/cover to be used without the actual Smart Dock attached? Hmmm...
Oh, AFAIK, and I've researched fairly thoroughly, I couldn't find any other way to achieve HDMI, Audio, and USB OTG simultaneously. You might be able to use the Allcast Media Hub for wireless HDMI & Audio, and then connect a USB OTG adapter to the Note 8.0's microUSB/MHL port, but I haven't tested that.
Hope this helps.
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I have the Smart Dock for my Note II and it works well. I haven't received my Int'l 3G Note 8.0 yet to test it, but it's good to hear that others have it working.
Since the Smart Dock holds both devices in Portrait orientation, it will not automatically put the display in Landscape mode unless you are playing a video. You would have to use a 3rd party app such as "Orientation Control".
I doubt you could write on the Note 8.0's screen successfully while in the dock. The dock is roughly 3" square and is not heavy enough to stabilize the tab for anything but very light screen taps or swipes. The device is not secured in the dock other than the by microUSB connector. The device just rests in the dock under its own weight, vertically.
The Smart Dock is not made to hold the device physically in a Landscape orientation. I'm not sure if a microUSB-to-microUSB extension cable would work to retain the functions and allow a separate landscape "holder" or case/cover to be used without the actual Smart Dock attached? Hmmm...
Oh, AFAIK, and I've researched fairly thoroughly, I couldn't find any other way to achieve HDMI, Audio, and USB OTG simultaneously. You might be able to use the Allcast Media Hub for wireless HDMI & Audio, and then connect a USB OTG adapter to the Note 8.0's microUSB/MHL port, but I haven't tested that.
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Thanks, it was very helpful. I was thinking of getting the Smart Dock in lieu of the HDMI adapter. USB-OTG + HDMI at same time isn't much of a necessity for me. HDMI is still primary for me. Audio, when required could be used from the 3.5 mm jack.
Guess, it would be better to go for the HDMI adapter.
BTW, do you have any experience on HDMI to VGA converters?Do they work well? Actually I need to hook up the Note 8.0 to a VGA projector?
^No worries.
I don't have a ton of experience with HDMI-to-VGA adapters, but I would trust the people at the following link to steer you in the right direction...
http://www.comprehensivecable.com/
Click on the "Adapters" tab, have a look, then shoot them an email. They're very helpful and knowledgeable.
You might also try http://www.monoprice.com
VGA doesn't carry Audio signals, so you would most likely need a unit that would extract the audio from the HDMI as well as the Video signal, and then route the Audio to a separate connector/cable. I have seen some VGA cables that also have a 3.5mm Stereo audio plug at each end, so you can hook up the audio output from your PC's sound card and plug it into the 3.5mm audio Jack on most video projectors. You can find these at http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=180-285
Good luck.
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^No worries.
I don't have a ton of experience with HDMI-to-VGA adapters, but I would trust the people at the following link to steer you in the right direction...
http://www.comprehensivecable.com/
Click on the "Adapters" tab, have a look, then shoot them an email. They're very helpful and knowledgeable.
You might also try http://www.monoprice.com
VGA doesn't carry Audio signals, so you would most likely need a unit that would extract the audio from the HDMI as well as the Video signal, and then route the Audio to a separate connector/cable. I have seen some VGA cables that also have a 3.5mm Stereo audio plug at each end, so you can hook up the audio output from your PC's sound card and plug it into the 3.5mm audio Jack on most video projectors. You can find these at http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=180-285
Good luck.
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Yes, I have seen some which can extract audio from the HDMI feed.
There are a number of listings on eBay in my country. I would love to get it from a reliable website, but most of them are overseas and the customs department in India makes it a lot of hassle.
I ordered a display adapter from dx.com once. No problems with website or the product, but it was held up for a month at the customs office and finally I had to pay a 50% duty as well.
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I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
Ravanous said:
I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
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Is your Note 8.0 battery level above 80% when you put it in the dock? If not, the tablet will draw too much power from the power adapter just to CHARGE the tablet, and the USB ports do not have sufficient power. If your tablet or phone battery is over 80%, this isn't a problem and you shouldn't have to "re-Dock" it to get the USB ports to work. Samsung should have made the power adapter more powerful (3 or 4 amps).
To get audio output from the 3.5mm rear Jack, you need to go into SETTINGS > ACCESSORY > AUDIO OUTPUT MODE, and Check the box for "Use External Speakers when device is Docked".
Ravanous said:
I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
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Just to be clear, are you able to Use the S-Pen when docked, any way to keep the tablet physically in a landscape position?
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Just to be clear, are you able to Use the S-Pen when docked, any way to keep the tablet physically in a landscape position?
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I thought I had answered your Portrait/Landscape question in paragraphs 3 & 4 of Post #4? Read through it again. The smart dock does not hold the tablet in a Landscape (horizontal) orientation at all. You could possibly use a case or cover on the Note 8.0 that would hold it in landscape, or use Samsung's Note 8.0 Car Mount and then connect the tablet to the Smart Dock with a 11-pin Male-to-Female micro-USB extension cable.
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I thought I had answered your Portrait/Landscape question in paragraphs 3 & 4 of Post #4? Read through it again. The smart dock does not hold the tablet in a Landscape (horizontal) orientation at all. You could possibly use a case or cover on the Note 8.0 that would hold it in landscape, or use Samsung's Note 8.0 Car Mount and then connect the tablet to the Smart Dock with a 11-pin Male-to-Female micro-USB extension cable.
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Yes, I had already read your post.
But the other member claimed to have already used it with the Note8, whereas you told me that you were still expecting your note 8, so I was keen to know more about the actual experience of a user.
BTW, Do you know if 11 pin USB extension cables are available?
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Take a look at a picture of the smart dock, or look at nztechfreak's YouTube review of it. Just from its physical size and design there is no way that the Smart Dock can support or hold a tablet in a Landscape or horizontal position when on a desk/flat surface...or any surface.
For reference, I just tried my Note II in the Smart Dock with the phone and dock laying on its side. The dock will hold the Note II in landscape position, but the phone is at a perfect 90° angle to the table's surface, which makes it hard to use the touchscreen, and it will easily become undocked, as there is no pressure or weight to secure the device. And there is nothing directly behind the phone to keep it from moving or sliding back when you press the screen. Also, at least one USB port will be inaccessible because it or they will be against the table's surface when the dock is laying on its side. This dock was simply made to only hold a PHONE (either the Note II, SGS3, or SGS4) in a vertical Portrait position. It's obvious from the design that it was not made for landscape use whatsoever. It just happens to hold the Note II on its side because the dock is the same width as the phone.
I don't believe that Samsung will ever make a LANDSCAPE Desk dock for the Note 8.0. It is clear from its general design that Samsung intended this tablet to be used as a "Notepad" in a Portrait (vertical) orientation. The only odd exception is the position of the IR Blaster on the side (the SGS4 IR Blaster is on the top). I would definitely like a landscape desk dock as well, but I'm not convinced that it would be practical for this particular tablet. However, there is a car/windshield mount listed on Samsung's web site that looks like it will hold the tablet in landscape mode.
I'm searching for the extension cables now and will post here if & when I find them.
Thanks.
I never tried the S-Pen while in the dock. Also I tried the settings mentioned above to get the 3.5 sound to work, but no luck.
I took it back, I'll wait for a proper one to come out, or try with the wifi all share hub and build somthing that way.
Got one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/23108138465...769&_trkparms=ga1m=T1&ga2m=T0&ga3m=T1&ga4m=T2
If I hook up USB+charger and THEN the HDMI, it works. For some reason (lack of power???) it won't accept a flash drive if I plug a hub in and the flash drive into that. (I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a USB mouse.)
Haven't bit the bullet on the official smart dock yet though :'(.
So I sold my Nexus 7, for the 8.0, for the MHL capability because I have the AppRadio2 and want to output the video onto the screen and audio to the car speakers. The only problem is that it doesn't seem like the 8.0 outputs audio through the mhl cable. I've tried multiple cables multiple external displays... The works. But can't seem to get audio to an external device. I've also tried an audio output app and that didn't work either. Any information is helpful. Thanks in advance guys
Wait...So are you getting video only, and no audio, or nothing at all???
Did you check the Android settings under "Accessories" for audio output options when docked or when other accessories are attached?
BTW, are you using the ARliberator App?
First of all, I don't think that the Note 8.0 is on Pioneer's list of approved/confirmed devices for use on the AppRadio2.
Also, the MHL/HDMI adapter that is sold in Pioneer's "Android Connection Kit" is the older 5-pin micro-USB connector.
You tried it with Samsung's newer 11-pin microUSB/MHL-to-HDMI adapter that is made for the SGS3 and Note2, right??? And you are plugging in the adapter to a microUSB charger, right? It will not work without this.
Pioneer's and Samsung's adapter for the SGS2 and original Note 5.3" will not work because it is the older 5-pin microUSB/MHL connector. You can buy the Samsung 5-pin to 11-pin MHL adapter for about $10 that should allow the older MHL/HDMI adapter to work:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Samsung-Adapter-Converter-EPL-FU10BEBSTD/dp/B0083FYL0O/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1366945559&sr=1-6&keywords=samsung+5-pin+to+11-pin+mhl+adapter
I don't know why you'd want to use the smaller and lower Res AppRadio2's screen over the Note 8.0's anyway?!? I guess you lose AM/FM tuner and the Backup Camera if you have one.
You can bypass the AppRadio2 and just use your Tablet to get RCA line level preouts and Digital Optical (Toslink) audio from the Note 8.0 if you use the MHL adapter with this $40 device:
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Premium-Audio-Extractor-Converter/dp/B00AHS8LD8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366941077&sr=8-1&keywords=viewhd+hdmi+digital+audio
Oh, but I forgot to mention that you would need separate car audio amplifiers to power your speakers for this setup to work. :/
I just returned my AppRadio2 and am using my SGN2 with this adapter in my car audio system to get digital audio output sent from my Note 2 to the digital optical input of my RF 3Sixty.3 DSP, then to my amplifiers and then speakers.
I'm using my Note 2 because I wanted to use just one audio source/device, that also has cell phone capability. The AppRadio2's built-in Dialer/Phone app borked/hid my Note 2's Keypad when it forces the display into landscape mode. :/ I guess that I could have used Tasker to switch back to portrait when the dialer/phone app opened, but then it is tiny on the AppRadio2's display. The International GT-N7100 SGN2 also has a hardware FM Tuner, or I use TuneIn Radio to stream almost any AM/FM station worldwide.
My car also came with a handsfree Bluetooth setup that worked much better than the AppRadio2.
I'm also using the Samsung SGS2 SmartDock in combination with the USB JoyCon EXR plugged into the SmartDock to keep my OEM Steering Wheel Controls and add extra functions to my SWC by long-pressing the buttons, etc. You have to program the JoyCon EXR with your PC before installing it, but it works great to control your Android's audio player functions with your SWC.
If you do get it working, you'll probably want to use the "Screen Standby #root" app to turn off the Note 8.0's screen backlight without putting it to sleep so it charges up faster. You must be rooted to use this app, however.
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Wait...So are you getting video only, and no audio, or nothing at all???
Are you using the ARliberator App?
First of all, I don't think that the Note 8.0 is on Pioneer's list of approved/confirmed devices for use on the AppRadio2.
Also, the MHL/HDMI adapter that is sold in Pioneer's "Android Connection Kit" is the older 5-pin micro-USB connector.
You tried it with Samsung's newer 11-pin microUSB/MHL-to-HDMI adapter that is made for the SGS3 and Note2, right??? And you are plugging in the adapter to a microUSB charger, right? It will not work without this.
Pioneer's and Samsung's adapter for the SGS2 and original Note 5.3" will not work because it is the older 5-pin microUSB/MHL connector. You can buy just the 5-pin to 11-pin MHL adapter for about $12 that should allow it to work if you have the older MHL/HDMI adapter.
I don't know why you'd want to use the smaller and lower Res AppRadio2's screen over the Note 8.0's anyway?!? I guess you lose AM/FM tuner and the Backup Camera if you have one.
You can bypass the AppRadio2 and just use your Tablet to get RCA line level preouts and Digital Optical (Toslink) audio from the Note 8.0 if you use the MHL adapter with this $40 device:
Oh, but I forgot to mention that you would need separate car audio amplifiers to power your speakers for this setup to work. :/
I just returned my AppRadio2 and am using my SGN2 with this adapter in my car audio system to get digital audio output sent from my Note 2 to the digital optical input of my RF 3Sixty.3 DSP, then to my amplifiers and then speakers.
I'm using my Note 2 because I wanted one audio source/device, with cell phone capability...the AppRadio2's built-in Dialer/Phone app borked/hid my Note 2's Keypad when it forces the display into landscape mode. :/ I guess that I could have used Tasker to switch back to portrait when the dialer/phone app opened, but then it is tiny on the AppRadio2's display.
I'm also using the Samsung SGS2 SmartDock in combination with the USB JoyCon EXR plugged into the SmartDock to keep my OEM Steering Wheel Controls and add extra functions to my SWC by long-pressing the buttons, etc. You have to program the JoyCon EXR with your PC before installing it, but it works great to control your Android's audio player functions with your SWC.
If you do get it working, you'll probably want to use the "Screen Standby #root" app to turn off the Note 8.0's screen backlight without putting it to sleep so it charges up faster. You must be rooted to use this app, however.
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I am using ARLiberator, and in terms of compatibility its not an issue considering I'm using the MHL and not the Pioneer "Android Kit". I think it is an issue with the device itself because I tried other cables and other displays and it just doesnt seem to be able to output audio through the MHL
tmaclax013 said:
I am using ARLiberator, and in terms of compatibility its not an issue considering I'm using the MHL and not the Pioneer "Android Kit". I think it is an issue with the device itself because I tried other cables and other displays and it just doesnt seem to be able to output audio through the MHL
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So you ARE getting video out, just no audio?
Hmmm...weird. You are using the 11-pin MHL adapter though, right? The "Android Connection Kit" uses a "MHL" adapter, too, and it is actually better than the Samsung original, but it is 5-pin, and won't work with newer devices. So I just wanted to be sure you are using the 11-pin MHL adapter made for the Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
Also, maybe check that the audio output settings are set to "Stereo" (2 Channel), and not to "5.1 Surround"? IDK?
Have you done the new firmware updates on the Note 8.0 yet? There is a thread here about it.
tmaclax013 said:
I am using ARLiberator, and in terms of compatibility its not an issue considering I'm using the MHL and not the Pioneer "Android Kit". I think it is an issue with the device itself because I tried other cables and other displays and it just doesnt seem to be able to output audio through the MHL
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This is probably a dumb question, but you have checked the volume level on the note once connected, right?
I just setup an HDMI connection on my unit and didn't get audio at first. Turns out that it doesn't send line level audio over HDMI. It creates a new mixer item that is muted by default on the note side.
Once I adjusted that, everything worked fine. Best of luck.
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Rottgrub said:
This is probably a dumb question, but you have checked the volume level on the note once connected, right?
I just setup an HDMI connection on my unit and didn't get audio at first. Turns out that it doesn't send line level audio over HDMI. It creates a new mixer item that is muted by default on the note side.
Once I adjusted that, everything worked fine. Best of luck.
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I couldnt figure it out, so after all was said and done, I just factory reset it, and now it works. Although it was kind of a pain, it turned out ok in the end
Bummer you had to resort to a factory reset, but glad it's working for you now! Rock on.
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So I sold my Nexus 7, for the 8.0, for the MHL capability because I have the AppRadio2 and want to output the video onto the screen and audio to the car speakers. The only problem is that it doesn't seem like the 8.0 outputs audio through the mhl cable. I've tried multiple cables multiple external displays... The works. But can't seem to get audio to an external device. I've also tried an audio output app and that didn't work either. Any information is helpful. Thanks in advance guys
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I'm not sure if this is a HDCP issue or a implementation issue but that's likely the way it is.
On my Galaxy S3, last time I tried it, I think you could have audio over Bluetooth or jack while doing HDMI/MHL video out. But it's been quite a while since I've had the cable. (It's perfectly fine on the SII X/Hercules as I had my fiancee try it before I got myself the wireless adapter.)
Under the Miracast (AllShare Cast) stuff, you are only able to direct audio through the dongle and thus need an adaptor that can split off the audio from the HDMI somehow, assuming those support the necessary HDCP crap.
hi,
I would like to know if there is a way to keep (maybe with an app made for this purpose) the note 2 connected with the mhl cable to the TV and at the same time keep the screen turned off in order to improve battery duration during this process... In fact, the idea would be to play with a ps3 joypad without touching the display... perhaps with emulators and stuff like that ... thanks
up!
i've searched around and i found screen stand by that should do what i was looking for
thanks anyway