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Will flashing CWM recovery affect getting an OTA?

My understanding is that recovery stays in a separate partition and whatever you do to it does not affect getting an OTA, is that right?
Also, what if my phone is rooted using the Zerg exploit or whatever method, can I still get an OTA?
So basically I think my questions is, what ultimately decides whether my phone can get an OTA, or not?

if you are on stock ROM, you will get it just fine
but you might loose ROOT after it finish the upgrade
if you are on Custom ROM, you wont get OTA

You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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mikeyinid said:
You can get the ota even on a custom ROM. As long as you have the stock recovery.
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How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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You can flash stock recovery using odin
Towle said:
How would you have a custom ROM with stock recovery? I've never rooted a Samsung phone since this is my first and I'm waiting to root it, so unless Samsung is different I don't see how.
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I'm sure within a couple days there will be a custom rom with the new features. that's an assumption but its always been like that on other phones I have had. Hopefully that's the case with this phone also.

I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?

513263337 said:
I have stock rooted ROM with CWM recovery, is that okay? Or do I have to have a stock recovery?
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you will get the notification for the ota, your phone will download it but when it boots into recovery to flash it and its not the stock recovery, it will just give an error and you will probably have to pull the battery to reboot. i did this on the nexus s. if i remember right i never got the ota notififcation again either after it failed.

I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...

I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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jasontx said:
I wonder where it puts the update after it downloads it. Would be nice to grab it and maybe install without reverting to stock...
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It goes to data/cache if I remember right. And there will be rooted roms posted within hours of the ota so its really nothing to even worry about
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513263337 said:
I know there are methods out there that can flash the entire phone back to stock (kernel, ROM, recovery) but that involves wiping everything. Is there a way to flash back the stock recovery only since I'm already on stock ROM and kernel?
Big thanks...
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There is a stock recovery posted in the dev section you can flash in Odin
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Found that and it works. Thanks!

you can keep your phone more up to date by flashing roms as opposed to waiting for an OTA. galaxy s4g is still stuck on froyo. Epic 4g just got gingerbread.

Has has anyone received the update?
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jasontx said:
Has has anyone received the update?
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Not yet. I went back to stock last night just in case so I hope its today like Tmobile said
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T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?

513263337 said:
T-Mobile said today now? Where did they say this?
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They tweeted it a while back. Today our phone and the amaze are suppose to get an update
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Last I heard it was the 13th, oh well who knows lol
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What is the update supposed to do or fix?

ota update

Wanted to know if you will still get ota updates with a stock rooted phone?

Chwek13 said:
Wanted to know if you will still get ota updates with a stock rooted phone?
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Yes you will. But you'll lose root and CWM of you accept it.
Edit: if you have superuser paid version it does have ota survival but its not guaranteed to keep root.
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Ok thank u

Chwek13 said:
Ok thank u
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No problem.
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If you have a custom recovery or if you have removed sprint bloatware it won't go through. Just root us fine though
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On stock rooted Roms and some TW Roms yes. But i usually take the update on my stock rooted Rom. It tries to install and restarts the phone then i get a android with triangle screen. But, i pull the battery and restart and all is fine. No more ota notifications and everything remains the same...
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cd7 said:
On stock rooted Roms and some TW Roms yes. But i usually take the update on my stock rooted Rom. It tries to install and restarts the phone then i get a android with triangle screen. But, i pull the battery and restart and all is fine. No more ota notifications and everything remains the same...
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You know if you read in the general section. There is an ota notification kill. Then you dont have to worry about that. But to each their own.
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Has anyone tried Rootkeeper with this OTA? If so, can you provide feedback on the results?

no updates because root

i rooted my phone and when i search for software update it says no updates because your phone is modified, i use triangle away and it works but at the same time it don't the only thing that does is searching for updates

Well for starters there is no update.
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once you use triangle away you have to factory reset it to return to stock

There is no update yet.
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And no worries man, usually when there is a firmware update we will get our hands on it and have a ROM set and ready to rock before the download from kies would even finish
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ptmr3 said:
And no worries man, usually when there is a firmware update we will get our hands on it and have a ROM set and ready to rock before the download from kies would even finish
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LMAO!!!! so so so true...

Ive never ran across this problem before with the s2 or 3. Im on the stock injected firmware and want to be able to get updates without having to odin back to stock or flashing a different recovery. How would one go about this? Sorry for thread jacking but figured others will have this question. Thanks.
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knarfies said:
Ive never ran across this problem before with the s2 or 3. Im on the stock injected firmware and want to be able to get updates without having to odin back to stock or flashing a different recovery. How would one go about this? Sorry for thread jacking but figured others will have this question. Thanks.
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The previous answers cover it. I went back to stock on my S 3 for the last official ICS update, but was really a WOT. Don't have to ODIN back to stock unless you want to run on stock.
You would probably see an Odin update (which will install the firmware and and Modem when a simple ROM flash would not) pretty soon after it is OTA'd, and you could use this and not have to have the hassle of going back to stock to get it. If it is not a complete ROM, you will have to be sure you are already updated to the firmware that the OTA would be updating.

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zorritokris said:
i rooted my phone and when i search for software update it says no updates because your phone is modified, i use triangle away and it works but at the same time it don't the only thing that does is searching for updates
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You are clueless. Stop messing with phones, you have no idea what you're doing.
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[Q] OTA update breaking root

Hello
I have rooted my Galaxy Note II and installed CWM for the recovery. I am also running a stock ROM. There is a new OTA update, and before I am going to do it, quick question: when I update, will I still have root access or will it break it somehow? I'm running the Stock 4.1.1

Flash stock recovery..so u can get ota then just root again..rooting takes 3 seconds
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twanskys204 said:
Flash stock recovery..so u can get ota then just root again..rooting takes 3 seconds
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Thank you

twanskys204 said:
Flash stock recovery..so u can get ota then just root again..rooting takes 3 seconds
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The update did not work for some reason. Is there anything else that would need to be changed in order for the update to work?

U have stock recovery?
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twanskys204 said:
U have stock recovery?
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Yes I do.

K run triangle away.....flash stock rom again....factory reset then u should get it
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root retained throgh OTA
Tyhuffman99 said:
Hello
I have rooted my Galaxy Note II and installed CWM for the recovery. I am also running a stock ROM. There is a new OTA update, and before I am going to do it, quick question: when I update, will I still have root access or will it break it somehow? I'm running the Stock 4.1.1
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Hello,
I too had root, CWM recovery and stock ROM on my note 2 and was able to successfully take the OTA update to 4.1.2 and retain root access. I obviously have a stock recovery now after the upgrade but root is still present! I did have SuperSU (paid for version) that has the Survive OTA update mode and it worked like a charm! One thing to note is that it was not obvious at first that root was retained.
Immediately after the update, my root access failed when trying to use Titanium backup. Also, other apps requiring root access were failing as well. So, I went into SuperSU and ticked the "enable Super User" mode off and then on again and rebooted the phone.
After the reboot I noticed that Titanium Backup had root access and then verified the rest of my apps were working as well.
Three cheers to the creators of these wonderful programs.....I'm very glad I paid for the updates and got the added functionality!!
Good luck to all and hopefully it works as well for you as it did for me!!

Possible to revert back to JB after KitKat?

I received a refurbished phone with KitKat already installed. I am already rooted. What has to happen for me to be able to go back to jelly bean? The one search I found didn't give a final answer
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burghfan3 said:
I received a refurbished phone with KitKat already installed. I am already rooted. What has to happen for me to be able to go back to jelly bean? The one search I found didn't give a final answer
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You can flash a zip through cwm and get back to JB, but do not try to flash back using Odin because it'll brick you. And just know that even if you flash back to a JB ROM you are stuck with KK boot loader and modem.
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Thanks. A few people set me straight in another thread
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